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Marie LaVeau


New Orleans Historic Voodoo Museum


Marie Laveau lived in New Orleans and became the Queen of the Voodoos.

"The beautiful Marie Laveau, and yes she was beautiful, was born a Free Woman of Color in 1794 and died an old woman in 1881. She became the most famous and powerful Voodoo Queen of New Orleans. She was respected and feared by all. Voodoo in New Orleans was a blend of West African religion and Catholicism. Voodoo deities are called Loahs and they are closely paired with the Catholic Saints. All people in New Orleans were Catholic and slaves were baptized. Marie was a devout Catholic and attended Mass daily. Marie began as a hairdresser and later became a nurse during the Yellow Fever epidemics. She was skilled in the practice of medicine and knew the healing qualities of indigenous herbs. Concerned about the soul too, she would sit with the condemned in their last moments sometimes serving them their last meal. She was the first commercial Voodoo Queen and she specialized in romance and finance. She was an astute business woman. Marie was all-knowing and all-powerful. She could easily help you get a lover, keep a lover or get rid of a lover. Marie married Jacques Paris at St. Louis Cathedral when she was 25. He disappeared 6 months later and from then on she became known as "The Widow Paris". A year later she became the common law wife of Christopher Glapion and had some 15 children by him. The youngest of these, also Marie, followed in her mother's footsteps and succeeded her. It is believed that you can come to Marie's tomb and ask for something. She accepts money, cigars, white rum and candy as offerings. Appeals must be made 3 times with full concentration. In voodoo it is believed that when a Voodoo Queen dies her spirit re-enters the river of life and moves to the next realm, adjacent to this one. Her spirit will always be here, close at hand, in New Orleans. To this day, people still visit her tomb with the hope that she will grant their wishes." Midge, tour guide for Hoodoo Tours, LTD in Voodoo on the Bayou

"Marie Laveau was a voodooienne. She was the queen of them all. White and colored folks used to go to her. She could keep anybody from harming you and she could do anything you wanted done to anybody. How she used to do it, I don't know. She used to say prayers and mix different things to give people to drink, to rub with, to throw over your shoulder, to throw in the river. Oh! She had a million things to do but everything would happen just like she would say. She used to get a lot of money and gifts from rich white folks. Marie Laveau is a name that was respected by everybody and dreaded by a lot of people. When she died she had a big funeral with white and black paying their respect. For years after she died people used to go put money (silver) on her grave in the St. Louis Cemetery. Up until now some people goes there and put their hand on her grave and makes a wish and their wish is granted. I don't recollect exactly where it is because I'm getting along in years now and the name is worn off the tombstone but it's in the St. Louis Cemetery." Aileen Eugene, 1919 N. Priour St., April 27, 1930

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Continues at:http://www.voodooonthebayou.net/marie_laveau.html

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Lessez Les Bonnes Temps Roulez.

Samedi.

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Had to put America First.

In Latin American, the practioners of Santeria, the Way OF THE SAINTS, put their most important Yoruba deities in a septet called in English the 7 Powers:

Eshu/Eleggua who the Haitians call Legba.
Obatala
Oshun
Yemaya who the Haitians call Erzulie
Shango
Oya
Ogun who the Haitians call Ogou-Feraille

These powers or forces are called orishas in the original Yoruba language. They control the head of the devotee in spirit possession.

In case you are wondering, Jesus is my orisha.

In African thought the heqd has seven windows to the soul. The 2 eyes, 2 ears 2 nostrils and one mouth.

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Let us start with Eshu, Eleggu, Elegba or Legba.

This is the orisha of the crossroads and god of chaos.

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This is a Haitian Veve for Papa Legba.

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The stone with cowries shells represents Eleggua and is sometimes placed by a doorway.

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Santeros wear necklaces of their particular orisha. His colors are black and red.

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Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou might test know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

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When one joins Egypt Search one is given choices of an alias and an avatar. There were few black avatars. I chose Shango and Benjamin Franklin who did not own slaves in his latter years. Benjamin Franklin discovered electricity with a kite and thunder and lightning.

Shango/Chango is the orisha of thunder and lightning.

In Santeria, these orishas were worshipped in a Catholic envoronment. So, the Africans disguised their worship by using corresponding Catholic Saints. Shango is Santa Barbara in Santeria.

So, the using of a White face to hide a Black man did not start with me. I do not hate White people. We are all God's children and there is only ONE GOD - THE CREATOR.

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Santa Barbara / Chango /Shango

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The double headed axe of Shango. In northern Europe, Thor is the god of thunder and lightning and he had a double headed hammer.

The colors of Shango are red and white. His number is 6 and hesacrifice is the ram.

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Eleke de Chango


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Shango is amusician and plays the Bata drums which have two sides. So, Latin musicians take on this name sometimes.

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Oshun is the goddess of the River Oshun in Nigeria. She was taken to the Americas on slaveships.

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The Love and Beauty orisha.

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Voodoo Creole Mama from New Orleans Beyonce' channels Oshun.

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Beyoncé Channels Yoruba Goddess Oshun In Maternity Album
Viva Shanice Davis


Read:vibe.com/2017/02/beyonce-yoruba-goddess-oshun/

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Eleke Oshun.

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Yemaya is motherhood and the sea orisha. Her colors are blue and white.

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The Lord thy God is a jealous God.

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Oshun is Freya. A lot of the orishas match up to Norse deities.
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Since your screen name is: "Red, White, and Blue + Christian" and you addressed this topic.

Can you explain why Europeans had laws implemented saying Africans couldn't freely express their African religion.

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quote:
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Oshun is Freya. A lot of the orishas match up to Norse deities.

What has Oshun to do with Freya?
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quote:
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The Lord thy God is a jealous God.

Why is God jealous when he can make us behave any way he wishes?

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quote:
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The Lord thy God is a jealous God.

Why is God jealous when he can make us behave any way he wishes?

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She can make us behave any way she wishes but she chooses not too. And God is jealous of people who do not worship her
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I thought no one was interested in this topic. The Lord is s Jealous God comes from the Bible.

https://www.gotquestions.org/jealous-God.html

Oya

http://santeriachurch.org/the-orishas/oya/

Oyá (also Ollá, Yansa or Yansán) is a fierce and powerful female warrior orisha in Santeria. She is the owner of the marketplace, and keeps the gates of the cemetery. She is the force of change in nature and in life. She wields lightning and rides the winds into battle, often fighting with her machetes side-by-side with her favorite lover, Changó. Oyá raises the armies of the dead as her soldiers and is said to use the tornado as her weapon. Oyá’s aché is fierce, tumultuous, changing and protective.Contrary to what many assume, Oyá does not live in the cemetery. She lives in the marketplace and steers the changing fortunes made through business. She does own the cemetery gates and will escort the spirits of the dead to the threshold of the graveyard, but it is actually Obba and Yewá who live in the cemetery itself. Oyá is said to control the air and winds in nature, and often rides storms into battle against her enemies.Oya is a complex orisha who has endured much sadness in her life. She is known as the “mother of nine” for she gave birth to nine different stillborn children. She carries much sadness about her incapacity to give birth and she dresses with nine different colored scarves around her waist in memory of her lost children. When Oshún ejected her twins, the Ibeji, out of her house it was Oyá who took in the Ibeji and raised them as her own. (Some lineages say it was Yemaya who raised the Ibeji.)Oyá has a close relationship with several orishas including Oshun, Ogun and Changó. In the odu Oshe Meji (5-5), Oshun’s life was fading away due to mankind’s preoccupation with life issues, and negligence of her worship. It was Oya who insisted that Chango divine with the diloggún for the first time to mark ebó (sacrifice) to save Oshun’s life; forever bonding the two in friendship. Oyá was once married to Ogun, and it was he who forged her favorite weapon – the machete. Oyá left Ogun and became one of Chango’s lovers. It was only Oyá who could truly keep Chango in his place. She stole Chango’s secret of throwing lightning, and knew how to use Chango’s fear of the dead to keep him under control.
There is also a great misunderstanding about the relationship between Oyá and Yemaya. These two orishas do not have enmity between them. This is a misunderstanding perpetuated by author Migene Gonzalez-Whippler that Yemaya supposedly tricked Oya into exchanging the sea for the cemetery. This pataki is not found anywhere in odu – it is a folk tale not based in our religion and originates from a lack of understanding in ceremony.

There is actually a ceremonial reason why Oya and Yemaya (Chango, and Inle too, for that matter) cannot be in the same room when Oya is being consecrated. This story is captured in the diloggún odu Ogbe’sa (8-9). Oya was betrayed by the ram. It was once her best friend and then tried to betray her to collect the bounty that was out on Oya’s head. When his treason was uncovered, Olofi demanded that the ram be killed. Oya cannot stand the sight of the ram because of his betrayal, but at the same time she cannot bear to see him being killed because she still cares for him. Ram is the favorite food of Chango and Yemaya (and Inle too). These orishas bear the scent of ram. So when Chango or Yemaya (or Inle) are being consecrated, Oya’s items must be out of the sacred room (Igbodú). Similarly if Oya is being consecrated, Chango and Yemaya (or Inle) cannot be anywhere near her items. This is strictly because of the ram’s betrayal and has nothing to do with personal issues.

Not all Olorishas receive Oyá at their kariocha initiation. Children of Chango, Yemaya and Inle do not receive this orisha when they are being crowned, but they can receive her at a later time if divination marks it as necessary.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Red, White, and Blue + Christian:
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The Lord thy God is a jealous God.

Why is God jealous when he can make us behave any way he wishes?

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That jealous and vengeful crap comes from the Jews who as a people are always psychologically obsessed with avenging their perceptions of past injustices, such as being thrown out of over 100 countries for being wicked.

God doesn't "make us" behave anyway. The creator set up the scenario and allowed free will to determine man's destiny.
Earth is heaven, and it's man's choice on what nature he will follow, Angel or Demon to make earth either Heaven or hell.

The Garden of Eden started as Paradise and man lived 600-800 years with abundance. Then a demon tempted man and here we are today.
I imagine, on another of God's planets, there is a scenario that plays out quite the opposite and an infinite number of extremes and in-betweens. The path was always up to man to decide.
An infinite number of possibilities, just the same as Star and planet formations.

God is probably watching and planning for the next big bang, if it hasn't already occurred.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
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The Lord thy God is a jealous God.

Why is God jealous when he can make us behave any way he wishes?

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That jealous and vengeful crap comes from the Jews
Yes but weren't the people who wrote that the original black Jews?
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^ NO. This came from the Khazars calling themselves Jews who took the War God Yahweh as their primary God to fulfil their unquenchable vengeful thirst for blood.

The LORD delivers 10,000 Canaanites and Perizzites for slaughter in Bezek. 71 kings have their thumbs and big toes cut off. (Judges 1.2,7)

"And the LORD said, Judah shall go up: behold, I have delivered the land into his hand ... Then Judah went up, and the Lord delivered the Canaanites and the Perizzites into their hand; and they killed ten thousand men at Bezek."
– Judges 1.2-4.

Usurper Jehu tricks all the priests of Baal into temple slaughter. (2 Kings 10.19.30)

"Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast them out, and went to the city of the house of Baal. And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them."

"And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing right in mine eyes, hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the 4th generation shall sit on the throne of Israel."

Look at today's Israel and tell me it isn't so!

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
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Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
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Originally posted by Red, White, and Blue + Christian:
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The Lord thy God is a jealous God.

Why is God jealous when he can make us behave any way he wishes?

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That jealous and vengeful crap comes from the Jews
Yes but weren't the people who wrote that the original black Jews?
quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
^ NO. This came from the Khazars calling themselves Jews who took the War God Yahweh as their primary God to fulfil their unquenchable vengeful thirst for blood.

The LORD delivers 10,000 Canaanites and Perizzites for slaughter in Bezek. 71 kings have their thumbs and big toes cut off. (Judges 1.2,7)

"And the LORD said, Judah shall go up: behold, I have delivered the land into his hand ... Then Judah went up, and the Lord delivered the Canaanites and the Perizzites into their hand; and they killed ten thousand men at Bezek."
– Judges 1.2-4.

Usurper Jehu tricks all the priests of Baal into temple slaughter. (2 Kings 10.19.30)

"Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast them out, and went to the city of the house of Baal. And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them."

"And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing right in mine eyes, hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the 4th generation shall sit on the throne of Israel."

Look at today's Israel and tell me it isn't so!

The Old Testament was written by Khazars?
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The first Bible: The Septuagint
The History of the Septuagint, and its Terminology.

The SEPTUAGINT, derived from the Latin word for "seventy," Septuagint, can be a confusing term, since it ideally refers to the mid 200 B.C. translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in Alexandria, Egypt. There is a complicated story however, behind the translation and the various stages, amplifications, and modifications to the collection we now call the Septuagint.

The earliest, and best known source for the story of the Septuagint, is the Letter of Aristeas (see below), a lengthy document that recalls how the Ptolemy’s – the Greek family that Alexander the Great set up to rule Egypt for him – specifically Philadelphus II (285–247 B.C.), who desiring to augment his library in Alexandria Egypt, commissioned a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek. He wrote to the chief priest Eleazar in Jerusalem, and arranged for six translators from each of the twelve tribes of Israel to come to Egypt for that purpose.

The seventy-two (altered in a few later versions to seventy or seventy-five) translators arrived in Egypt to the Ptolemy's gracious hospitality, and translated the Pentateuch: the first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures, believed to have been written by Moses, in seventy-two days. There is no information available, as to how differing versions between individuals and tribes were resolved. Although opinions as to when this occurred differ, scholars find 282 B.C. to be an attractive date.
As attested by the Dead Sea Scrolls (the oldest known Hebrew scriptures – see below), there was no “ONE” Hebrew belief or Canon at this time. Rather there were many sects, each with their own beliefs – some quite radical. Thus Ptolemy's need for many translators from each tribe, in hope of getting a consensus of the Hebrew religion. How much of the material presented was written (and when it was written), and how much was oral is unknown.

the entire Old Testament in Greek, whether originally written in Hebrew or not, is credited to the Seventy-two. Thus, from the second century onwards, Christians embraced a Septuagint that encompassed a larger body of literature than was found in the Hebrew Scriptures, and they attributed it all, to the work of the seventy-two ancient Jewish translators.

For their part, Hebrew rabbis, particularly Pharisees, reacted to the Christian appropriation of their Scriptures by producing fresh translations of their Scriptures (e.g., Aquila, in 128 A.D, or Symmachus in the late 200 A.D.), and also by discouraging the use of the Septuagint. In any case, in the second century, Christian and Hebrew leaders seemed to stake out and codify their position on the form and character of the Scriptures. By and large, Christians held to the peculiar, prophetic character of their Septuagint, while Hebrews rejected it.

Although a factor for division, the SEPTUAGINT also constitutes common ground, since it bears witness to the way Greek-speaking Hebrews, before the Christian era, read and interpreted the Hebrew Scriptures. By their efforts, those who produced the SEPTUAGINT established a certain vocabulary and set of ideas that markedly changed the literature of the Graeco-Roman world. Many of these peculiarly Hebrew ways of reading the Bible filtered into the Christian community, often to the dismay of early pagan critics of Christianity (Celsus and Porphyry, notably), who saw in the SEPTUAGINT solecisms and myths. The early Christians who responded to these charges generally refused to be embarrassed by the SEPTUAGINT, and often sought to transform the sense and sensibility of the ancient world in favor of the Hebrew Scriptures. The Septuagint is of importance too, because it is translated from texts now lost. No copy of the original translation exists and textual difficulties abound.


The Modern Bible

The Old Testament

In its general framework, the Old Testament is the account of God's dealing with the Hebrews as his chosen people. The first six books of the Old Testament narrate how the Israelites became a people and settled in the Promised Land. The following seven books continue their story in the Promised Land, describing the establishment and development of the monarchy and the messages of the prophets. The last 11 books contain poetry, theology, and some additional historical works. The term Old Testament was devised by a Christian, Melito of Sardis, about AD 170 to distinguish this part of the Bible from the later New Testament.

The Hebrew canon recognizes the following subdivisions of the Old Testaments three main divisions:

1) The Torah/Pentateuch, in the broadest sense the substance of divine revelation to the Hebrew people: God's revealed teaching or guidance for mankind. The meaning of “Torah” is often restricted to signify the first five books of the Old Testament, also called the Law or the Pentateuch. These are the books traditionally ascribed to Moses, the recipient of the original revelation from God on Mount Sinai. Jewish, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestant canons all agree on their order: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

2) The Nevi'im/The Prophets the second division of the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament. In the Hebrew canon the Prophets are divided into (1) the Former Prophets (Joshua, Judges, Samuel, and Kings) and (2) the Latter Prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel - and the Twelve, or Minor, Prophets: Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi).
This canon, though somewhat fluid up to the early 2nd century BC, was finally fixed by a council of rabbis at Jabneh (Jamnia), now in Israel, at about 100 A.D.

2a) The Protestant canon follows the Septuagint, the Greek version of the Old Testament. It calls the Former Prophets the Historical Books, and subdivides two of them into Samuel I and II, and Kings I and II. Some Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox versions further divide Kings into four books. Maccabees I and II are also included in the Roman and Eastern canons as historical books.

2b) The Prophets in the Protestant canon include Isaiah (which appears in two books in some Catholic versions), Jeremiah, and Ezekiel from the Hebrew Latter Prophets. The Minor Prophets (The Twelve) are treated as 12 separate books; thus the Protestant canon has 17 prophetic books. The Roman Catholics accept the book of Baruch, including as its 6th chapter the Letter of Jeremiah, both considered apocryphal by Jews and Protestants.

3) The Ketuvim/The Writings, the third division of the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament. Divided into four sections, the Ketuvim includes: Poetical books (Psalms, Proverbs, and Job), the Megillot, or Scrolls (Song of Solomon, Ruth, Lamentations of Jeremiah, Ecclesiastes, and Esther), prophecy (Daniel), and history (Ezra, Nehemiah, and Chronicles I and II).

3a) Thus the Ketuvim is a miscellaneous collection of liturgical poetry, secular love poetry, wisdom literature, history, apocalyptic literature, a short story, and a romantic tale. They were composed over a long period of time—from before the Babylonian Exile in the early 6th century B.C. to the middle of the 2nd century B.C. — and were not entirely accepted as canonical until the 200 A.D. Unlike the Torah and the Nevi'im (Prophets), which were canonized as groups, each book of the Ketuvim was canonized separately, often on the basis of its popularity.

The total number of books in the Hebrew canon is 24, the number of scrolls on which these works were written in ancient times. The Old Testament as adopted by Christianity numbers more works for the following reasons. The Roman Catholic canon, derived initially from the Greek-language Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible, absorbed a number of books that Jews and Protestants later determined were not canonical (see apocrypha); and Christians divided some of the original Hebrew works into two or more parts, specifically, Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles (two parts each), Ezra-Nehemiah (two separate books), and the Minor Prophets (12 separate books).

In the Apocrypha of the Old Testament, various types of literature are represented; the purpose of the Apocrypha seems to have been to fill in some of the gaps left by the undisputed canonical books and to carry the history of Israel forward to the 2nd century B.C.

Old Testament pseudepigrapha are extremely numerous and offer accounts of patriarchs and events, attributed to various biblical personages from Adam to Zechariah. Some of the most significant of these works are the Ascension of Isaiah, the Assumption of Moses, the Life of Adam and Eve, the First and Second Books of Enoch, the Book of Jubilees, the Letter of Aristeas, and the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs.
Pseudepigrapha – Are works usually spuriously attributing authorship to some biblical character. Pseudepigrapha are not included in any canon.


The New Testament

The New Testament is the second and later, also smaller of the two major divisions of the Christian Bible, and the portion that is canonical (authoritative) only to Christianity.

The New Testament is an anthology, a collection of works written at different times by various authors. In almost all Christian traditions today, the New Testament consists of 27 books. The original texts are said to have been written beginning around A.D. 50 in Koine Greek, the lingua franca of the eastern part of the Roman Empire where they were composed.

Christians see the New Testament as the fulfillment of the promise of the Old Testament. It recounts the life and ministry of Jesus and interprets its meaning for the early church. Like the Old Testament, the New Testament is a collection of books, including a variety of early Christian literature.

The New Testament focuses especially on the new covenant created between God and the followers of Jesus. There are 27 books in the New Testament: The four Gospels of the New Testament deal with the life, the person, and the teachings of Jesus, as he was remembered by the Christian community. The book of Acts carries the story of Christianity from the Resurrection of Jesus to the end of the career of the Apostle Paul; The Letters (21), or Epistles, are correspondence by various leaders of the early Christian church, chief among them the Apostle Paul, applying the message of the church to the sundry needs and problems of early Christian congregations; and the Book of Revelation, a description of the coming apocalypse. The Book of Revelation is the only accepted canonical representative of a large genre of apocalyptic literature that appeared in the early Christian movement.
Apocalypse - The Jewish and Christian writings of 200 B.C. to A.D. 150 marked by pseudonymity – (a fictitious name), symbolic imagery, and the expectation of an imminent cosmic cataclysm in which God destroys the ruling powers of evil and raises the righteous to life in a messianic kingdom.

Most are believed to have been written shortly after Jesus’ death in the later 1st century A.D, though none can be dated precisely. Only two authors are known for certain: St. Paul, credited with 13 epistles; and St. Luke, writer of the third gospel and the Book of Acts. Attributions of other authors range from highly likely (for the other three gospels) to completely unknown (for the Epistle to the Hebrews). These documents circulated among the early churches and were used as preaching and teaching sources. The earliest known list of the current New Testament canons dates from 367 A.D, in a work by St. Athanasius. A church council of 382 A.D, gave final approval to the list.

Heretical movements such as Gnosticism and Montanism spawned a great body of New Testament pseudepigrapha. The existence of such purported scriptures lent great impetus to the process of canonization in the young and orthodox Christian Church.
Heretical - A religious opinion contrary to church dogma.

All the New Testament apocrypha are pseudepigraphal, and most of them fall into the categories of acts, gospels, and epistles, though there are a number of apocalypses and some can be characterized as wisdom books. The apocryphal acts purport to relate the lives or careers of various biblical figures, including most of the apostles; the epistles, gospels, and others are ascribed to such figures. Some relate encounters and events in mystical language and describe arcane rituals.

Most of these works, arose from sects that had been or would be declared heretical, such as the Gnostics. Some of them argued against various heresies, and a few appear to have been neutral efforts to popularize the life of some saint or other early leader of the church, including a number of women. In the early decades of Christianity no orthodoxy had been established, and various parties or factions were vying for ascendancy and regularity in the young church. All sought through their writings, as through their preaching and missions, to win believers. In this setting virtually all works advocating beliefs that later became heretical, were destined to denunciation and destruction.

In addition to apocryphal works per se, the New Testament includes a number of works and fragments that are described by a second meaning of the term deuterocanonical: (“added later”). The Letter to the Hebrews attributed to Paul, who died before it was written, is one of these; others are the letters of James, Peter (II), John (II and III), and Jude, and the Revelation to John. Fragments include Mark 16:9–20, Luke 22:43–44, and John 7:53 and 8:1–11. All are included in the Roman Catholic canon and are accepted by the Eastern Church and most Protestant churches.

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The Masoretic text (MT)

(From Hebrew masoreth, “tradition”), the traditional Hebrew text of the Hebrew Bible, meticulously assembled and codified, and supplied with diacritical marks to enable correct pronunciation. This monumental work was begun around 600 A.D. and completed in 1000 A.D. by scholars at academies in Babylonia and Palestine, in an effort to reproduce, as far as possible, the original text of the Hebrew Old Testament. Their intention was not to interpret the meaning of the Scriptures but to transmit to future generations the authentic Word of God. To this end, they gathered manuscripts and whatever oral traditions were available to them at the time.

During the middle years of the Masoretic’s creation, the powerful and influential Khazars, converted to the Hebrew religion. It is not known what input or effect, the Khazars had on the final version of the Masoretic text, or how closely the modern Jewish Bible reflects the Masoretic text.


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Khazars – An ancient Turkic people who appeared in Transcaucasia, {the transitional region between Europe and Asia, extending from the Greater Caucasus to the Turkish and Iranian borders, between the Black and Caspian seas.} in the 2nd cent. A.D, and subsequently settled in the lower Volga region. They emerged as a force in the 7th century and rose to great power. By the 8th century the Khazar empire extended from the northern shores of the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea to the Urals and as far westward as Kiev. Also in the 8th Century, the Khazars converted to the Hebrew religion and made Judaism the State religion. “Itil” the Khazar capital in the Volga delta, was a great commercial center. The Khazar Empire fell, when Sviatoslav, duke of Kiev (945–72), son of Igor and of St. Olga, defeated its army in 965 A.D. The Khazars are the progenitors of European Jewry, the entomology of the term Jew or Jewish probably relates to these people.

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The Magi and the Child of Wondrous Light

The legend of the Magi-Kings was embellished in apocryphal books and Christian folklore. The Proto-gospel of James and the Chronicle of Zuqnin, describe the birth of the Savior. Like the God Mithra, the divine child is consubstantial with celestial light and was born in a mountain cave on December 25. Such imagery of the Nativity of Christ and the symbolism of the royal visitors may originally have descended from Persian accounts of the birth of the cosmic savior, for the accounts seem to owe a great deal to Persian theologies of light.

But the themes have been recast in Christian terms. The Opus imperfectum in Matthaeum, relates that 12 Magi-Kings lived near the Mountain of Victories, which they climbed every year in the hope of finding the messiah in a cave on the mountaintop. Each year they entered the cave and prayed for three days, waiting for the promised star to appear. Adam had revealed this location and the secret promises to his son Seth. Seth transmitted the mysteries to his sons, who passed the information from generation to generation. Eventually the Magi, sons of kings, entered the cave to find a star of unspeakable brightness, glowing more than many suns together. The star and its bright light led to, or became, the Holy Child, the son of the Light, who redeems the world.

Mithra - pre-Zoroastrian Persia – The Sun god – also, the celestial deity who oversaw all solemn agreements.

Magi - Zoroastrian priest

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The Vulgate Bible

(From the Latin editio vulgata: “common version”), Latin Bible used by the Roman Catholic Church, primarily translated by St. Jerome in 382 A.D. Pope Damasus commissioned Jerome, the leading biblical scholar of his day, to produce an acceptable Latin version of the Bible from the various translations then being used. His revised Latin translation of the Gospels appeared about 383 A.D.

The Septuagint was an important basis for St. Jerome's translation of the Old Testament into Latin for the Vulgate Bible; and, although he had doubts about the authenticity of some of the apocryphal works that it contained (he was the first to employ the word apocrypha in the sense of “noncanonical”), he was overruled, and most of them were included in the Vulgate.

Other apocryphal writings, canonical only to Roman Catholicism, with an exception or two, include the Book of Baruch (a prophet) and the Letter of Jeremiah (often the sixth chapter of Baruch); the First and Second Books of Maccabees; several stories from Daniel, namely, the Song of the Three, Susanna, and Bel and the Dragon; and extensive portions of the Book of Esther. Certain other books found in the Septuagint—the Apocrypha for Protestants and Jews; the deuterocanonical books for Roman Catholics—were included.
Deuterocanonical works are those that are accepted in one canon but not in all.

Various editors and correctors produced revised texts of the Vulgate over the years. The University of Paris produced an important edition in the 13th century. Its primary purpose was to provide an agreed standard for theological teaching and debate. The earliest printed Vulgate Bibles were all based on this Paris edition.

In 1546 the Council of Trent decreed that the Vulgate was the exclusive Latin authority for the Bible, and declared the canonicity of nearly the entire Vulgate, excluding only the Third and Fourth Books of Maccabees, the Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151, and the First and Second Books of Esdras.

Eastern Christendom, meanwhile, had accepted some of the Old Testament apocrypha—Tobit, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, and Ecclesiasticus (Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach)—but rejected the rest.

The so-called Clementine Vulgate, issued by Pope Clement VIII in 1592, became the authoritative biblical text of the Roman Catholic Church. From it the Confraternity Version was translated in 1941. Various critical editions have been produced in modern times; in 1965 a commission was established by the second Vatican Council to revise the Vulgate.

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John Wycliffe and the Lollards

The first complete English-language version of the Bible dates from 1382 and was credited to John Wycliffe and his followers.

The Gutenberg Bible

Also called the Forty-two-line Bible, or Mazarin Bible, the first complete book existing in the West and the earliest printed from movable type, so called after its printer, Johannes Gutenberg, who completed it about 1455 working at Mainz, Germany. The three-volume work, in Latin text, was printed in 42-line columns and, in its later stages of production, was worked on by six compositors simultaneously. It is sometimes referred to, as the Mazarin Bible because the first copy described by bibliographers was located in the Paris library of Cardinal Mazarin.


The Tyndale Bible

Because of the influence of printing and a demand for scriptures in English, William Tyndale began working on a New Testament translation directly from the Greek in 1523. The work could not be continued in England because of political and ecclesiastical pressures, so the printing of his translation began in Cologne (Germany) in 1525. Again under pressure, this time from the city authorities, Tyndale had to flee to Worms, where two complete editions were published in 1525.

The Coverdale Bible

On October 4, 1535, the first complete English Bible, the work of Miles Coverdale, came off the press either in Zürich or in Cologne. The edition was soon exhausted. A second impression appeared in the same year and a third in 1536. A new edition, “overseen and corrected,” was published in England by James Nycholson in Southwark in 1537.


The Matthew Bible

In the same year that Coverdale's authorized version appeared, another English Bible was issued under royal license and with the encouragement of ecclesiastical and political power. It appeared (in Antwerp?) under the name of Thomas Matthew, but it is certainly the work of John Rogers, a close friend of Tyndale. Although the version claimed to be “truly and purely translated into English,” it was in reality a combination of the labors of Tyndale and Coverdale. Rogers used the former's Pentateuch and 1535 revision of the New Testament and the latter's translation from Ezra to Malachi and his Apocrypha. Rogers' own contribution was primarily editorial.

The Great Bible

In an injunction of 1538, Henry VIII commanded the clergy to install in a convenient place in every parish church, “one book of the whole Bible of the largest volume in English.” The order seems to refer to an anticipated revision of the Matthew Bible. The first edition was printed in Paris and appeared in London in April 1539 in 2,500 copies. The huge page size earned it the sobriquet the Great Bible. It was received with immediate and wholehearted enthusiasm.

Geneva Bible

Also called Breeches Bible – Was a new translation of the Bible published in Geneva (New Testament done in1557; Old Testament in 1560) by a colony of Protestant scholars in exile from England, who worked under the general direction of Miles Coverdale and John Knox and under the influence of John Calvin. The English churchmen had fled London during the repressive reign of the Roman Catholic Mary I, which had halted the publication of Bibles there.

The work acquired the sobriquet “Breeches Bible” because it described Adam and Eve as having made “breeches” to cover their nakedness (Genesis 3:7), instead of “aprons” or “loincloths.” The Great Bible (named for its large page size and first ordered by Henry VIII in 1538) was restored to the churches after Queen Elizabeth I's succession halted persecution of Anglicans and Protestants, but the Geneva Bible, imported from Europe and not printed in England until 1576, quickly surpassed the Great Bible in public favor. The work's enduring popularity made the Geneva Bible an important influence on the translators of the King James Version of 1611.


The Bishops Bible

The failure of the Great Bible to win popular acceptance against the obvious superiority of its Geneva rival, and the objectionable partisan flavor of the latter's marginal annotations, made a new revision a necessity. By about 1563–64 Archbishop Matthew Parker of Canterbury commissioned its execution and the work was apportioned among many scholars, most of them bishops, from which the popular name was derived.

The Bishops' Bible came off the press in 1568 as a handsome folio volume, the most impressive of all 16th-century English Bibles in respect of the quality of paper, typography, and illustrations. A portrait of the Queen adorned the engraved title page, but it contained no dedication. For some reason Queen Elizabeth never officially authorized the work, but sanction for its public use came from the Convocation (church synod or assembly) of 1571 and it thereby became in effect, the second Authorized Version.


King James Bible

Because of changing conditions, another official revision of the Protestant Bible in English was needed. The reign of Queen Elizabeth had succeeded in imposing a high degree of uniformity upon the church. The failure of the Bishops' Bible to supplant its Geneva rival made for a discordant note in the quest for unity.

A conference of churchmen in 1604, became noteworthy for its request that the English Bible be revised because existing translations “were corrupt and not answerable to the truth of the original.” King James I was quick to appreciate the broader value of the proposal and at once made the project his own.

By June 30 1604, King James had approved a list of 54 revisers, although extant records show that 47 scholars actually participated. They were organized into six companies, two each working separately at Westminster, Oxford, and Cambridge on sections of the Bible assigned to them. It was finally published in 1611.

The New English Bible

The idea of a completely new translation into British English, was first broached in 1946. Under a joint committee, representative of the major Protestant churches of the British Isles, with Roman Catholics appointed as observers, the New Testament was published in 1961 and a second edition appeared in 1970. The Old Testament and Apocrypha were also published in 1970.

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^There is much more by way of detours and additions to the Christian Bible than detailed in the summary above.

One thing for sure is that the Septuagint upon which they are all "Supposed" to be based - is long gone and lost. Therefore anyone can say anything about what was "Supposed" to be in the Septuagint.

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By inference we know that modern Christian and Hebrew religious writings are made-up material, simply because neither the Roman Catholic Church, nor the Khazar Jews in Israel, will allow the translated "Dead Sea Scrolls" to be published.

These are the ONLY works actually done by HEBREWS!

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The Dead Sea Scrolls

The first of the Dead Sea Scroll discoveries occurred in 1947 in Qumran, a village situated about twenty miles east of Jerusalem on the northwest shore of the Dead Sea. A young Bedouin shepherd, following a goat that had gone astray, tossed a rock into one of the caves along the sea cliffs and heard a cracking sound: the rock had hit a ceramic pot containing leather and papyrus scrolls that were later determined to be nearly twenty centuries old. Ten years and many searches later, eleven caves around the Dead Sea were found to contain tens of thousands of scroll fragments dating from app. 300 B.C. to 68 A.D. and representing an estimated eight hundred separate works.

The Dead Sea Scrolls comprise a vast collection of Hebrew documents written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, and encompassing many subjects and literary styles. They include manuscripts or fragments of every book in the Hebrew Bible except the Book of Esther, all of them created nearly one thousand years earlier than any previously known biblical manuscripts. The scrolls also contain the earliest existing biblical commentary on the Book of Habakkuk, and many other writings, among them religious works pertaining to Hebrew sects of the time.

The Controversy

The shepherd who made the discovery at Qumran brought the seven intact scrolls that he had found to an antique dealer. Three were sold to a scholar at Hebrew University and four were sold to the Archbishop of Syria, who tried for years to place them with a reputable academic institution, but ultimately sold them in 1954, through a classified ad in The Wall Street Journal. The ad was answered by Israeli archaeologist Yigael Yadin, who donated these scrolls to the state of Israel, and established a museum for them, The Shrine of the Book, at Hebrew University.

Control of the remaining tens of thousands of scroll fragments however, was not soon resolved. But one year after the discovery at Qumran, the United Nations partitioned Palestine to allow for the creation of the state of Israel, and war began. Meanwhile, a U.N.-appointed, Jesuit-trained official had summoned Roland de Vaux, director of the Ecole Biblique, a French Catholic Theological School in Arab East Jerusalem, to oversee research on the scrolls. The slow pace of publication and the extreme secrecy of de Vaux's almost entirely Catholic group, fueled the theory that the Vatican wished to suppress information in the scrolls.

Then in 1967, Zionists seized East Jerusalem, and the Israel Antiquities Authority took control of the scrolls. Access however, was merely transferred to yet another small secretive group, which seemed determined to hide them from the rest of the world. Israeli officials told prominent visiting scholars, that they “would not see the scrolls in their lifetimes.”

The building media frenzy was furthered by the 1990 dismissal of the project's editor-in-chief, Harvard Divinity School professor Dr. John Strugnell, after he publicly criticized Judaism and the Israeli state. A breakthrough came in September 1990, when the Huntington Library in California, made available unauthorized photographs of the scrolls. The following year, text and translations of only fifty scrolls were published in book form.

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^I only posted the above, to preface certain passages in the Bible which horrified me (genocide) when I first read them in the course of researching Christianity.

Deuteronomy 3

3 Then we turned, and went up the way to Bashan: and Og the king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei.

2 And the Lord said unto me, Fear him not: for I will deliver him, and all his people, and his land, into thy hand; and thou shalt do unto him as thou didst unto Sihon king of the Amorites, which dwelt at Heshbon.

3 So the Lord our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.

4 And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.

5 All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many.

6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.

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There are many such passages in the Christian Bible where believers are commanded to kill every Man, woman, Child, and Donkey of the non-believers.

Pretty much the same as what Islam is accused of.

Are either one of these religions true to the feelings and beliefs of their Black creators?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Are either one of these religions true to the feelings and beliefs of their Black creators?

Just look at the most recent possible date when Deuteronomy was written
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Just look at the most recent possible date when Deuteronomy was written

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I have no clue as to where to find that information.

Would you please, pretty please, tell us???

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I make a thread on Traditional African Religion and you attack my religion. What is this?

The Christian Religion is the biggest religion worldwide today. It come out of Judaism. Ethiopian Judaism is the oldest form of Judaism and Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity is the most Hebraic. That church uses an 81 book Bible which is the largest canon of books for any Bible.

The language of Ethiopian Christianity is Geez and the modern Amharic, both of which are Semitic Languages. Jesus spoke Aramaic which like Hebrew is also Semitic.

Og the Giant and the other Giants were killed like David killed the Giant Goliath because they were a remnant of the children of the Fallen Angels. The Book of Enoch explains the background story to why God destroyed the Earth with the Flood. The Fallem Angels mixed their seed with humans and animals and produced evil hybrids.

The only complete copy of the B of Enoch was found in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church

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I have always said that God created all 7billion people on the Earth and loves everybody.

Mike111 likes to use the word ALBINO. Well, according to the Book of Enoch, Noah was an albino. Now, there are several videos on YouTube about many facets of the Book of Noah. Here are a few:

Albino Noah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50-aCG6FfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxdPjGdxUMs

Giants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvkWZRlXgQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2UJPugKF5c

There are many more on this topic.

The Book of Enoch was taken to Europe and translated by a Scotsman. Christianity is much deeper than the diluted version... Don't get me started.

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http://tribeofthesun.com/deities/obatala/


Obatala



Traditional Colors: White

Number: 8

Areas of Influence: Knowledge, leadership, fatherhood, justice and the legal system, geology, people with special needs, the military

Entities associated with: Our Lady of Mercy

Symbols: Mountains, snail shells, short whip made with white horsehair and cowrie shells, quartz crystals, white rocks, frogs, white animals

Offerings: White bland food (either the meat or the milk of a coconut, potatoes, eggs, rice, mushrooms, milk, water, etc), crushed up egg shells, cotton, snail shells, frankincense, myrrh or sandalwood incense, tobacco

Feast Day: September 24th

Astrology: Libra

Tarot: Justice, the Emperor

Chakra: Crown Chakra

Gemstones: Quartz crystal, howlite, chalcedony, lead crystal, diamonds, ivory

Animals: Snails, Elephants, Egrets, Blue Herons, Bald Eagles, Snow monkeys, Cotton-top Tamarin monkeys

Entities of Similar Energy: Tyr, Odin (as All-father), Ra, Damballah

Plants associated with: Garlic, hyssop, sage

Obatala is the father figure of the Orishas. He is also the chief and judge. He is very wise and compassionate. Obatala is married to Yemaya, the ocean goddess and mother-figure of the Orishas. They have been married a very long time and have many children. According to one story, Obatala is the father of human beings. However, while making humans from the earth, Obatala got thirsty and began to drink some palm wine. He got drunk and started to make some of the humans deformed. After he sobered up, he realized what he had done and he swore from that day forward he never drink and that he would take special care of people who are handicapped.

When Obatala was younger, he was very bold and brash. He was a strong warrior who saw a lot of horrible things on the battlefield. All of those experiences tempered him. Now, he is an Orisha who works for peace. As judge, Obatala is very much involved with issues of justice and law (man-made or karmic). He will be involved in any kind of court case or legal issue. However, you should not ask him to get involved in a legal case if you are guilty unless you are willing to face your punishment. Obatala also rules karmic justice. If a karmic injustice has been committed or if you need to make amends for something you have done, than go to him for help. Obatala teaches us to fight for what is right and to take responsibility for what we have done wrong.

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http://www.ethiopianorthodox.org/english/canonical/books.html



The Bible

The Holy Scriptures are one of the two great foundations of the faith and here is what our church holds and teaches concerning it. The word of God is not contained in the Bible alone, it is to be found in tradition as well. The Sacred Scriptures are the written word of God who is the author of the Old and New Testaments containing nothing but perfect truth in faith and morals. But God’s word is not contained only in them, there is an unwritten word of God also, which we call apostolic tradition. We receive the one and other with equal veneration.



The canon of the Ethiopic Bible differs both in the Old and New Testament from that of any other churches.
List all books. As a whole, books written in the Geez language and on parchment are numerous. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church has 46 books of the Old Testament and 35 books of the New Testament that will bring the total of canonized books of the Bible to 81.



These are the following

A. The Holy Books of the Old Testament

1. Genesis
2. Exodus
3. Leviticus
4. Numbers
5. Deuteronomy
6. Joshua
7. Judges
8. Ruth
9. I and II Samuel
10. I and II Kings
11. I Chronicles
12. II Chronicles
13. Jublee
14. Enoch
15. Ezra and Nehemia
16. Ezra (2nd) and Ezra Sutuel
17. Tobit
18. Judith
19. Esther
20. I Maccabees
21. II and III Maccabees
22. Job
23. Psalms
24. Proverbs
25. Tegsats (Reproof)
26. Metsihafe Tibeb (the books of wisdom)
27. Ecclesiastes
28. The Song of Songs
29. Isaiah
30. Jeremiah
31. Ezekiel
32. Daniel
33. Hosea
34. Amos
35. Micah
36. Joel
37. Obadiah
38. Jonah
39. Nahum
40. Habakkuk
41. Zephaniah
42. Haggai
43. Zechariah
44. Malachi
45. Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
46. The Book of Josephas the Son of Bengorion



B. The holy books of the New Testament

1. Matthew
2. Mark
3. Luke
4. John
5. The Acts
6. Romans
7. I Corinthians
8. II Corinthians
9. Galatians
10. Ephesians
11. Philippians
12. Colossians
13. I Thessalonians
14. II Thessalonians
15. I Timothy
16. II Timothy
17. Titus
18. Philemon
19. Hebrews
20. I Peter
21. II Peter
22. I John
23. II John
24. III John
25. James
26. Jude
27. Revelation
28. Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
29. Tizaz (the book of Herald)
30. Gitsew
31. Abtilis
32. The I book of Dominos
33. The II book of Dominos
34. The book of Clement
35. Didascalia



The Ethiopic version of the Old and New Testament was made from the Septuagint. It includes the book of Enoch, Baruch, and the third and fourth Esdras. In the international Bible studies there are certain books belonging to the class usually designated pseudepigraphic. The whole Christendom and whole-learned world owes a debt of gratitude to the church of Ethiopia for the preservation of those documents.



Among these books is the book of Enoch which throws so much light on Jewish thought on various points during the centuries immediately preceding the Christian era. The book of Jubilee (Kufale, i.e. Division) otherwise known as the Little Genesis has also been preserved entire only in the Ethiopic version. The preservation of yet one more book in its entity, namely, the Ascension of Isaiah, is to be remembered to the credit of the Ethiopic Church.



But books, which should be considered for higher education and could be prepared carefully in order to suit modern thinking, are the following.



1. Theological books such as the following

- Haymanote Abew or the Faith of the Fathers in which other writings of the Apostolic Fathers and also of the Eastern Orthodox Church fathers are to be found.
- Works of St. Cyril and many other writers.
- The exegesis of the letter to the Hebrews by St. John Chrysostom.
- The pastoral work of St. John Chrysostom.
- Severious of Asmunage – a collection of twelve exegetical works, which prove the teaching concerning God.
- A book that proves the existence of God Hilawae – Melekote
- The book of Hawi, which proves the teaching concerning God.
- Book of the mystery by Abba Georgis containing arguments and evidence about the mysteries.
- Religious documentary book by Jacob of Elbaredia.
- The true faith (written during the reign of Zera Yacob)
- The five pillars of the Sacraments (as Catechism).


M E I L A D

2. Books that have the orders of the church

- The liturgical book with the 14 Anaphora
- Ghitsacwa –Lectionaries or a list of annual reading of the scriptures during the liturgical service and other prayer hours.
- The book of the Sacrament of Matrimony (Metsehafe Teklil)
- The book of Baptism
- The book of Ordination
- The book of Covenant
- The prayer book for the dead
- The prayer book of the Incense
- The book of Canon
- The prayer book of purification


3. Books on Church administration and on counseling

- A big book on the Synod of the Apostles in four parts
- The Didache and Abthulis
- The book on the Synod of Nicea
- The book on the Synod of Galatia
- The book on the Synod of Antioch
- The book on the Synod of Lethokia
- The book on the Synod of Kerthica
- The book on the Synod of Esrskousia
- The book on the Synod of Srethia
- The book of Fetha Negast
- Spiritual Medicine (Fewse Menfsawi)
- Exegesis on the meeting of clergy (Tikbe Kahenat)


4. Scared books

Most of these books are written in sections or parts for bindings, these are

- The old & The New Testaments
- The Books of the scholars of the Church
- Metsehafe Menequsat (book of the Monks)



5. Hymn books, mostly by St. Yared
- Digua
- Thesome Digua
- Mieraf
- Zimare
- Mewasiet
- Zik
- Mezmur
- Liturgy (Kedasie)
- Saatat (of ABBA Giorgis)



6. Books on Calendar

- Book of Abushakir
- Sid, the Son of Batrik
- Mark son of Kenbar
- Leader of Blind – by Demetros
- Mathematics concerning calendar by the Monastery of Bizen



7. Historical Books

- First writing on Zion
- Biography (Gedle) of Lalibela
- History of the Kings of Axum
- History of the Kings of Zagwe
- On the treasure of the kings
- On the honor of the Kings
- Tefut
- Biography (Gedle) of Tekla Haimanot
- George the son of Amid
- History of Alexander
- Works of the brothers – Part II
- Books on preaching



8. Compositions (works) on the virgins (celibates)

- Writings (compositions) on the woman who anointed Jesus
- Compositions (writings) on the Samaritan woman
- Writings on the birth of Christ
- Writings on Epiphany
- Writings on the Resurrection etc.



9. Writings that describe the biography of the martyrs

Biography and works of St. George
“ “ “ St. Kopnious
“ “ “ St. Irenaeus
“ “ “ St. Gelwdewos
“ “ “ Forty soldiers of Heaven



10. Different philosophical books

- Wogris the Wise (philosopher)
- Angare Felasfa (collections from philosophers)
- Thoughts and commentary of Zera Yacob of Axum



11. Books on the tradition and culture of the country

- On old age and adolescence
- Customs and traditions of Ethiopia



12. Books on nature and science

- Books on nature and science Part II and I
- Aximaros
- Phisalgos on animals and others



13. Books, which show writings of compositions

- The composition or writing of one of the criminals (outlaws), who was hanged with Jesus
- On the Miracles of St. Mary and many other apocryphal books are to be found.



14. Ancient grammatical books

There are very many grammatical books written by different people and found at different places in the world. The above noted are but a very few examples from among the different books numbered by the thousands that the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church has. In the past, at present and even in the future either in the church or at the schools what the church uses for educational services was and will not be outside of these books.



In the past, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church had not much opportunity to expand and propagate the above, noted doctrine and orders of the church inside and outside the nation; this is because of the different circumstances prevailing in the surroundings of the country. Because of the advent of European Colonialism upon its neighboring African countries and the great monetary support that other religious groups received to convert Africans. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church had no other choice but to defend on and preserve all here Christian legacy. Henceforth, she was unable to raise her apostolic voice louder among her African brothers and sisters. Nevertheless, the sense of freedom that the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church maintained for centuries being, the torch of freedom to all Africa has enabled Africans to be aware of their freedom.



In this 20th century, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church is conducting many apostolic missions – that is organizing church councils and founding clergy training programs within the country; and carrying on her apostolic missionary activities.


CANON LAW
The canons, regulations of Christian instruction and worship of the Ethiopian Church, are contained in the Sinodos and Didascalia, two compilations of ancient church canons, dating from the second period of Ethiopic literature. These canons are closely associated with the New Testament.



The Sinodos, classed as part of Ethiopic New Testament, is composed of various elements: Constitutions of Apostles, the Statutes of the Apostles, the Canons of the Apostles, the canons of Various councils-Nicaea, Gangra, Sardica, Antioch, New-Caesarca, Aneyra, Laodienea – and various theological and pastoml treatises. Eight books make up the Sinodos. Sinodos is the Corpus juris Ecclesiastic of the Church. The various discourses and treaties included in this Corpus are:

1. An exposition of the dialogue ascribed to St. John Chrysostom.
2. On the Essence of the Holy Trinity.
3. On the fear of God.
4. On the ancient people and a refutation of the Jews.
5. A discourse of St. Gregory of Armenia against the Jews.
6. Hortatory discourse to believers who desire to walk in the paths of wisdom and knowledge.
7. Hortatory discourse to believers who desire to walk in the paths of wisdom and knowledge.
8. The discourse of the Nicene Fathers on the Holy Trinity.
9. The penitential canons of our Lord to Peter.



The Didascalia a document well known in the Christian Church originally composed in Greek probably in the middle of the third century, a discourse on Church life and society. The whole work was afterwards, somewhere in the fourth century, incorporated in the Apostolic Constitutions. It has Latin, Arabic and Syriac versions, which differ among themselves and from the Ethiopic version with regard to the subject matter. The Ethiopia Didascalia contains the first seven books of the Apostolic Constitutions and it represents a form intermediate between the shorter Syriac Didascalia and the complete work of Apostolic Constitutions.



Briefly the contents of the document are: Questions of morality, the duty of studying the Scriptures and observance of the Seventh Commandment, mutual duties of husband and wife, offices and duties of Christian ministers; the duties of widows; the method of baptism, laymen not to baptize; vows of virginity; the duties of the faithful towards the martyrs; observance of Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, Holy week and method of calculating the date of Easter; warning against heresy; respect to be shown to the faithful departed; prayers to be used on specified and unspecified occasions.


“Glory be to the Almighty God,” Amen.

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quote:
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I make a thread on Traditional African Religion and you attack my religion. What is this?

The Christian Religion is the biggest religion worldwide today. It come out of Judaism. Ethiopian Judaism is the oldest form of Judaism and Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity is the most Hebraic. That church uses an 81 book Bible which is the largest canon of books for any Bible.

The language of Ethiopian Christianity is Geez and the modern Amharic, both of which are Semitic Languages. Jesus spoke Aramaic which like Hebrew is also Semitic.

Og the Giant and the other Giants were killed like David killed the Giant Goliath because they were a remnant of the children of the Fallen Angels. The Book of Enoch explains the background story to why God destroyed the Earth with the Flood. The Fallem Angels mixed their seed with humans and animals and produced evil hybrids.

The only complete copy of the B of Enoch was found in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church

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Black God: the Afroasiatic roots of the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim religions

By Julian Baldick

Syracuse University Press,

In his latest provocative book, Julian Baldick argues that just as there is a common Afroasiatic language family, so too there is a common Afroasiatic family of religions. There is an inner logic to be found in myths, folk-tales, rituals, customs and beliefs as far apart as Yemen and Nigeria, which go back to an ancient past shared by the Bible and the pharaohs. Using the methods of comparative mythology, the author sifts through the work of an array of scholars - including anthropologists, religious historians, archaeologists and classical Greek writers and contemporary comments on them by professional Egyptologists - to build his picture of the Afroasiatic heritage, and how much of it is still with us in modern Western thought.


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Abstract

We are to-day in the presence of a contemporary myth, the belief of Gold Coast patriots that they descend from the ancient Ghana kingdom, which was disrupted nine centuries ago. Certain leaders, like Dr. J. B. Danquah, go further, and declare that the names Akan and Ghana derive from the Sumerian Akkad, buttressing this assertion with many recondite linguistic parallels, and cultural resemblances like the seven-day week. Mrs. Meyerowitx is one of the leading authorities on the early history of the Gold Coast, and she was invited to write a short note on the subject in the light of modern research notably by R. Mauny, who thinks that there are only the slightest chances of the link between Akan and Ghana, whose true descendants are the Sarakold or Soninkd, first in the Macina, then at Djenne.


--EVA L. R. MEYEROWITZ

A Note on the Origins of Ghana

https://academic.oup.com/afraf/article-abstract/51/205/319/172098/A-Note-on-the-Origins-of-Ghana

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RWB+C - Ethiopian priests always claim to tourists that they have the "Arc of the Covenant".
Is this true, and if so, will they ever let the rest of us see it?

It's all so confusing:

Jews and Catholics won't let us see the "REAL" Hebrews scriptures.

And Ethiopians won't let us see the "Arc of the Covenant".

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Languages of Ghana: Ga, Akan. I've heard them both spoken.

7 day/sun-lamps- Hebrew
7th Shabbath/Shamash

7 angels - Yazidi Kurd
7th Melek Taus(muslims say he is Shaytan the fallen angel but Kurds say he was the only angel that would not bow to man, only to god.)

7 Sages - Sumeria
7th Oannes(Johan)

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
RWB+C - Ethiopian priests always claim to tourists that they have the "Arc of the Covenant".
Is this true, and if so, will they ever let the rest of us see it?

It's all so confusing:

Jews and Catholics won't let us see the "REAL" Hebrews scriptures.

And Ethiopians won't let us see the "Arc of the Covenant".

Some of the fragments and scrolls were published early. Most of the longer, more complete scrolls were published soon after their discovery. All the writings in Cave 1 appeared in print between 1950 and 1956; those from eight other caves were released in 1963; and 1965 saw the publication of the Psalms Scroll from Cave 11. Their translations into English soon followed.


The scrolls have traditionally been identified with the ancient Jewish sect called the Essenes, although some recent interpretations have challenged this association and argue that the scrolls were written by priests in Jerusalem, Zadokites, or other unknown Jewish groups.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
RWB+C - Ethiopian priests always claim to tourists that they have the "Arc of the Covenant".
Is this true, and if so, will they ever let the rest of us see it?

It's all so confusing:

Jews and Catholics won't let us see the "REAL" Hebrews scriptures.

And Ethiopians won't let us see the "Arc of the Covenant".

Assuming they have them in the first place, isn't it obvious why they keep them hidden.
The portions of the Dead Sea Scrolls that have been released are definitely not in-line with the New Testament Bible and the Arc Of Covenant wasn't as important as what was inside the box.
I saw the small temple in Ethiopia where the Arc is supposed to be held. Although old, the structure isn't too impressive, especially for a housing that is supposed to be home to the relic.
Plus the security was minimal and not anywhere what you'd expect for a priceless relic.
My guess is if the thing did exist, the Ethiopian Jews would have stolen it long ago and handed it over to the Ashkenazi Jews in Israel as their "passage fee" for Operation Solomon.
Perhaps they did.

The fact that the nations allowed Israel to horde the Dead Sea Scrolls is proof that the Europeans are working in tandem against the rest of the world.

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^Did you see the nonsense the degenerate bitch posted above?

Seems they have all taken a page from Trump and the Nazi.

The BIG lie.

The Bigger the lie, the more believable it is to the Rabble class.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
[qb] RWB+C - Ethiopian priests always claim to tourists that they have the "Arc of the Covenant".
Is this true, and if so, will they ever let the rest of us see it?

It's all so confusing:

Jews and Catholics won't let us see the "REAL" Hebrews scriptures.

And Ethiopians won't let us see the "Arc of the Covenant".

Assuming they have them in the first place, isn't it obvious why they keep them hidden.
The portions of the Dead Sea Scrolls that have been released are definitely not in-line with the New Testament Bible

why would they be, they are the Old Testament?


Deuteronomy 6:15 (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

^^ ya boyz the Jew Essenes wrote that it's part of the Torah, the earliest first five books of the bible where they talk about the albino Noah.
It's the Old Testament were God is more wrathful, written way before the Khazars


https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Dead-Sea-Scrolls-English/dp/0141197315

The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English: Seventh Edition (Penguin Classics) 7th Edition
by Geza Vermes (Author)

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https://www.amazon.com/Facsimile-Dead-Sea-Scrolls-Volumes/dp/1880317001/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1492614422&sr=1-1&keywords=dead+sea+facsimile

A Facsimile Edition of the Dead Sea Scrolls (2 Volumes) Hardcover – April, 1992


___________________


I don't know what you fools is talking about, the complete Dead Sea Scrolls is not only out and in facsimile version but you can buy it on Amazon

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"Ethiopian priests always claim to tourists that they have the "Arc of the Covenant". "

Possibly the Arc was always a herd formation story, an arc/semicircle being how Pygmies hunt/herd/drive antelope etc. into nets or waiting archers.

Priests herd their flock into church by powerful societal myths.

Note an "Ethiopian Church forest" usually has the only closed-canopy forest in the midst of hundreds of acres of open labored fields.

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Dr Yosef Ben Jochannan Vs ADL Racist Rabbi Arthur Seltzer

Dr. Ben schools the ADL albino usurper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24KYINdqG-A&t=89s

It's very unfortunately that there is no one to step up and fill Dr. Ben's tremendously large shoes.

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quote:
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I don't know what you fools is talking about, the complete Dead Sea Scrolls is not only out and in facsimile version but you can buy it on Amazon

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Top Customer Reviews
2.0 out of 5 starsSuffers heavy abridgement! DECEIPTIVE TITLE!
ByDavid D. Owenson September 20, 2015
Format: Paperback|Verified Purchase

This is nowhere near the complete Dead Sea scrolls, and I'm not referring to the portions that are absent due to the original text being damaged and unreadable, I'm talking about entire sections that exist in English but for some reason are not included in this "complete" collection.

Firstly, it only contains the non-biblical Dead Sea scrolls but even those suffer a painful abridgement. For example, the Genesis Apocryphon does not include any text from columns 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 or 10 (and go figure I was specifically needing column 5). The introduction even admits that they exist and have even been translated and is kind enough to provide information on where to look if you wish to read them. Kind, yes, but insulting given the book's title and $22 price mark.

If this were called "Abridged Portions of Selected Dead Sea Scrolls in English" I would respect it as that would be a wonderfully accurate title, but we all know that it would not sell nearly as well as it has if it had been labeled honestly. This blatant marketing deception fueled by greed is probably to be placed upon Penguin Classics and not the late Geza Vermes, who is an exceptional biblical scholar.
.

Ha,ha,ha,ha:

Who but an Albino IDIOT would ever believe that the Albino Pope, or the Albino Rabi, would EVER tell the world the truth about religion?



https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Dead-Sea-Scrolls-English/dp/0141197315

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