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Would Africa Be Better With More Non-Africans?

If we look at Africa today, the only nations with advanced standings are those that have had an strong infusion of Non-African peoples, then the question is how would Africa look like with this process replicated throughout the continent?

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Hmm...Nigeria says hi,
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Actually, Africa would be better off if African Negroes stopped trying to perform poor imitations of brain diseased European albinos and instead focused on cultivation of African ORIGINAL thought, world-view and processes.
Imitating the white man has already proven to be a disastrous simple-minded idea that only will keep Africans confined within the European albino containment.
In other words, it's impossible to break the casino's bank while playing by the Casino's loaded rules.
Both South Africa and Nigeria are prime examples of this, being the largest African economies gained by imitating white people sans any real originality in thought.
The only country in Africa that has displayed any shred of original thought is Zimbabwe who has been standing up alone against white dominate thought. Unfortunately, they've stood alone.

The biggest problem Africa has is their extreme susceptibility to being infiltrated, deceived and destroyed from within as is the case with Liberia who attempted to build an African nation modelled on democracy only to end up being headed by a CIA informant who destroyed the country from within.
Africans are just extremely naive and gullible!
They need to develop stronger brains to understand political strategy and how not to be so easily deceived into killing one another. I.E. US/Europe/Israel instigated Civil war.

To be fair, African Americans have the exact same mental dysfunction.

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quote:
Originally posted by R.Havoc:
Would Africa Be Better With More Non-Africans?

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Just the understanding and acknowledgement that what you historically did - failed;

Allows for thoughtful analysis of WHY you failed.

Once Africans start thinking and planning, instead of just dealing with what comes up, puts you on the right road.

As an example;

They say that 30% of the land can't be properly used because of the Tse Tse fly. In all this time Africans haven't found a way to eradicate that Fly?

Wiki:

The tsetse fly lives in nearly 10,000,000 square kilometres (4,000,000 sq mi) in sub-Saharan Africa and many parts of this large area is fertile land that is left uncultivated—a so-called green desert not used by humans and cattle. Most of the 37 countries infested with tsetse are poor, debt-ridden, and underdeveloped. Of the 39 tsetse-infested countries, 32 are low-income, food-deficit countries, 29 are least developed countries, and 30 are among the 40 most heavily indebted poor countries. Eradicating the tsetse and trypanosomiasis problem would allow rural Africans to reclaim areas of their continent and greatly increase food production. Only 45 million cattle, of 172 million present in sub-Saharan Africa, are kept in tsetse-infested areas, but are often forced into fragile ecosystems like highlands or the semiarid Sahel zone, which leads to overgrazing by animals and overuse of land by people for food production.

Come-on Africans, ya gotta think of solutions!

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^ 30%!?!
that can't possibly be correct. Must be a typo. This is 2017AD, not 2017BC.
If this is true, then Africans are indeed a continent of lame brains. I don't believe it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
^ 30%!?!
that can't possibly be correct. Must be a typo. This is 2017AD, not 2017BC.
If this is true, then Africans are indeed a continent of lame brains. I don't believe it.

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^What - you didn't know Africa was a mess?
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National Academy of Sciences

Evolving Agriculture in Sub-Saharan Africa

Agriculture is critical for human welfare and economic growth in developing countries. More than 1 billion people in China and India live on small-scale farms. In sub-Saharan Africa, more than 750 million people who live in dire poverty (earning less than US$1 per day) rely on subsistence agriculture as their major source of food and income, and about two-thirds of the people depend on farming for their livelihood (FAO, 2006; Diao et al., 2007; Toenniessen et al., 2008; World Bank, 2008). Yet, compared to India, China, and South America, only sub-Saharan Africa continues to show a decline in food security and agricultural productivity per capita and an increase in undernourishment since 1990 (FAO, 2006). The contribution of agriculture to gross domestic production in African countries varies from 10 to 70 percent (Mendelsohn et al., 2000). In other words, local livelihood of some African countries depends on the agricultural sector.

In general, part of Africa’s poor agricultural performance (and the concomitant pervasive problems of hunger) can be attributed to a wide array of production-limiting constraints faced by resource-poor farmers that include: shrinking farm sizes and inequitable land-distribution patterns, depleted soils and limited use of fertilizer and soil amendments (either organic and inorganic), unreliable rainfall and lack of irrigation capacity, and limited access to improved varieties and seed distribution systems. Other underlying factors that often contribute to or aggravate those constraints include: poorly maintained roads and transportation systems, inefficient markets or lack of access to regional or international markets, lack of credit, labor availability and demands, unstable political systems, poor security, warfare, and underinvestment by national governments and other institutions in the physical, institutional, and human capital needed to support sustainable agricultural intensification (Diao et al., 2007). Challenges to agriculture in Africa are likely to be made more difficult by the effects of global climate change (NRC, 2008).

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I'm not sure about the bulk ethnic group of India but Chinese people are for the most part the same,I feel Africans problem stems from a political backwardness than a intellectual one as I don't know much on how Africans conquered non Africans outside the moors even then there isn't much negativity associated with their form of imperialism because I find hard to believe they were less self sufficient before white contact,I think an African concept of nation building differes from whites.
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LOL!

What exactly is the difference between "Political" and "Intellectual" mental retardation?

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20 million at risk of starvation in world's largest crisis since 1945, UN says. By Faith Karimi, CNN

(CNN)Somalia and three other countries desperately need aid to save more than 20 million people from starvation and diseases, the United Nations said.

The UN pleaded with the world to come to the rescue of Yemen, South Sudan, Somalia and northeast Nigeria.

"We stand at a critical point in history. Already at the beginning of the year we are facing the largest humanitarian crisis since the creation of the UN," UN humanitarian chief Stephen O'Brien said Friday.

"Now, more than 20 million people across four countries face starvation and famine. Without collective and coordinated global efforts, people will simply starve to death. Many more will suffer and die from disease."


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I just realized what these starvation countries have in common - Islam!

Either they are Islamic people, or in conflict with Islamic people.

(Northeast Nigeria is Muslim).

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Mental is by nature,political is human generated,these crap African leaders with no respect for the country the live in create policies that benefits them and their supporters at the risk of everybody in the country,sense no one live in a world unconnected from other people and when your charge with managing stuff that effects millions it becomes an issues on how and where you're educated,some understand that the power and influence in the world is white and the relationship whites have with blacks was never good because concept and values whites instilled on to black folk and other caus them to develop a backwardness in understanding the world they live in.
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quote:
Originally posted by Thereal:
some understand that the power and influence in the world is white and the relationship white have

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Huh?

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Slight error as I post from a tablet.
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quote:
Originally posted by Thereal:
Slight error as I post from a tablet.

Tablets suck!
I wasted time and $$ attempting to use several different tablets, but they just never were as effective as a laptop. Tablets are like the now defunct PDAs (Personal Data Assistant).

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Mesopotamians filled their libraries with them.

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quote:
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Mesopotamians filled their libraries with them.

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Finally something worthwhile:

Nice attempt at a pun.

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Sometimes I feel like I should be ashamed of myself for not feeling more sympathy for Africans.

Then something comes to my attention, that reminds me of why I don't.



Black Muslims aim for unity in challenging time for Islam
Jeff Karoub, Sophia Tareen and Noreen Nasir,

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DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- In her job as a refugee case manager, Fatimah Farooq would come to work in a hijab and speak with her clients in Arabic. Nonetheless, she found herself being asked whether she was Muslim.

It's not easy, Farooq says, navigating her dual identities as black and Muslim.

"I'm constantly trying to prove that I belong," said Farooq, who now works in public health. "It's really hard not to be an outsider in a community — especially today, in the current times."

Many Muslims are reeling from a U.S. presidential administration that's cracked down on immigrants, including through the introduction of a travel ban that suspends new visas for people from six Muslim-majority countries and is now tied up in court. But black American-born Muslims say they have been pushed to the edges of the conversations — even by those who share the same religion.

They say they often feel discrimination on multiple fronts: for being black, for being Muslim and for being black and Muslim among a population of immigrant Muslims. Farooq, whose Sudanese parents came to the U.S. before she was born, said her own family used to attend a largely African-American mosque but then moved to a predominantly Arab one — yet in both cases still felt like "outsiders."

The identity issues have rippled into social media with Twitter's #BeingBlackAndMuslim and @BlkMuslimWisdom formed in recent weeks to amplify stories of black Muslims, whether it's to praise Mahershala Ali, who is black and became the first Muslim actor to win an Oscar, or to express concern over the lack of black speakers at a recent Islamic conference. Tensions are also being aired at community town halls, with panelists questioning why there hasn't been more involvement from Arab and South Asian Muslims in Black Lives Matter events.

In response, activists say they're seizing the opportunity to unite Muslims of all backgrounds.

Kashif Syed, who lives in the Washington, D.C. area, grew up in a family of South Asian Muslim immigrants around Detroit that was insulated from black Muslims. Now that he's part of a young professional Muslim community, he's trying to honor the experiences of others.

"We're seeing increasingly visible threats to Muslims across the country now — it's an important reminder of what black communities have endured for generations in this country," said Syed, who volunteers at Townhall Dialogue, a nonprofit fostering discussions about U.S. Muslim identity. "I can't really think of a better time for non-black Muslims to start examining how we got here, and what lessons we can learn from the hard-won victories of black communities from the civil rights movement."

Organizer Shamar Hemphill, a black Chicago native who works for the Inner-City Muslim Action Network, said Republican President Donald Trump's executive orders such as the travel ban have made organizers "quadruple" efforts to form alliances, including recent calls for Muslim groups to attend and organize around Martin Luther King Jr. Day events.

"We're not going to allow any policy or federal piece of legislation to separate us and isolate us. We're going to come together and protect each other," he said. "It's also a great opportunity because it brings us out of our silos."

Other attempts at unity have been made over the years. Imam Zaid Shakir at the California-based Zaytuna College, a liberal arts Muslim college, has delivered lectures about similarities between the Prophet Muhammad's farewell sermon and King's "I Have a Dream Speech." The Council on American-Islamic Relations holds events around the birthday of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam member who came into mainstream Islam. And IMAN in Chicago has celebrated hip hop, featuring Muslim rappers like Grammy-winner Rhymefest.

Asha Noor, whose family fled Somalia's civil war when she was a baby, helped organize a town hall after Trump announced his first travel ban in February, which blocked travelers from seven predominantly Muslim countries and put the U.S. refugee program on hold. That ban has since been replaced with a newer version.

Noor said she feels there's less attention paid to the plight of refugees from her native Somalia and Sudan, the two African countries in Trump's executive order. She sees it as part of a "continuous erasure of the black Muslim experience."

"Black Muslims often face a two-front challenge, both within the community and the larger American society," said Noor, who worked for Take on Hate, a campaign challenging discrimination against Arabs and Muslims. "You can never be too sure if assaults or micro-aggressions are coming because you're black, Muslim, or both."

Central to the issue, experts say, is that Islam is largely portrayed as something foreign. That's a misconception University of San Francisco professor Aysha Hidayatullah encounters when teaching an "Islam in America" class where she looks at Islam's presence in America from the slave trade to civil rights — something that is a surprise to many of her students.

"It's a class that is focused mainly on recovering the black memory of Islam in this country," she said. "That's the element that's forgotten."

Compared with the general population, U.S. Muslims are more racially diverse with a larger percentage born abroad. There's disagreement on how many millions reside in the U.S., but it's commonly accepted that American blacks represent about one-third of Muslims in this country.

Many came to the religion through the Nation of Islam, which veers from mainstream Islam on several core teachings, leading many immigrant Muslims to consider it too divergent from their faith. But Imam W. Deen Mohammed transformed the movement after taking it over in the 1970s and gradually moved his thousands of followers toward mainstream Islam, while Louis Farrakhan took leadership of the black separatist Nation of Islam.

Despite the history of blacks in the Muslim faith, Tariq Touré, a Maryland writer and activist, says South Asian and Arab narratives still dominate the conversation.

"It's disheartening, because black Muslims can't even get a word in as to how they're navigating all of this," said Touré, who's black. "We really struggle with it all — the bridges that have been burned and the barriers that have been built within the Muslim communities when it comes to race."

Abdul Rahim Habib, an American-born college student, said even his close friends assumed he converted to Islam because they didn't associate being black with being Muslim. That's even though the 21-year-old's Nigerian father and grandparents are Muslim. While growing up in Chicago, he could remember moments when Arab Muslims refused to greet him with "As-Salaam-Alaikum," a wish of peace customary among all Muslims.

"A lot of our Arab brothers and sisters didn't really care about being brothers and sisters until this point when they started having problems," he said.

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^ Africans don't need sympathy. They get tons of that worthless emotion from the same albinos who murder, starve, and confuse them.
What they need are brains, balls conviction and morality.

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@mike I could see why you would be upset this lady's understanding of a faith created by blacks and having the issue it does but you have already shown and proved who is behind the deception with regards to color created out of a bastardized believe systems,the issus is who taught her and the availability of pertinent material, excluding a weak understanding on how people interact most manipulated people don't know they've been manipulated.
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^Silly me, I just assumed that Sudanese and other such Africans, simply scuffed at Turks calling themselves Arabs.

Especially since the Sudanese/Nubians anciently had writing, and should know better.

Clearly no Africans kept a written history after Egypt fell. None of them know any better.

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^ This is what perplexes me to no end. The fact of the absence of written records from Africa detailing major ancient events that the rest of the world has records of.
Were Africans so primitive to had never developed writing prior to being taught by foreigners?
Every time there is a discussion around this topic and some African or historian states they didn't, but they didn't need to become of their oral tradition, it make me want to puke. As if oral traditions are a reliable method of passing on knowledge and history.
Ancient Egypt definitely possessed some long forgotten form of technology in it's history and there are many myth and legends describing it. Around the same period in time, ancient India is also recorded to have possessed a form of high technology, and there is also the well known myth of Atlantis which supposed to have existed during the same period.
Why is it that no where in African history can any records be found that record Africans and their interactions with any of these advanced ancient cultures?

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I'm not sure about all of the Africans but the oba king keep records on plaques in picture form that was sack by the British in the late 1800s. There are different ethnic groups in africa who were better developed than other Africans throughout the ages so when whites got a firmer grasp in to Africa there would've been some destruction of these higher developed African society probably with the assistance of competing ethnic groups.
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^ 1800AD is rather late, especially when countries like China and Korea have written records dating back to 1800BC.

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quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
^ Africans don't need sympathy. They get tons of that worthless emotion from the same albinos who murder, starve, and confuse them.
What they need are brains, balls conviction and morality.

you're not African?

you're American, only?

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
^ Africans don't need sympathy. They get tons of that worthless emotion from the same albinos who murder, starve, and confuse them.
What they need are brains, balls conviction and morality.

you're not African?

you're American, only?

You're a dirty, lying, and stealing Israeli Jew, so that makes you non-African and the absolute worst sort of person on the planet Mr. Lionese.
So why are you so interested in Africa?

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quote:
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
[qb] ^ Africans don't need sympathy. They get tons of that worthless emotion from the same albinos who murder, starve, and confuse them.
What they need are brains, balls conviction and morality.

you're not African?

you're American, only?

You're a dirty, lying, and stealing Israeli Jew, so that makes you non-African
but don't we all come from Africa ? .....
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In a sense.
Better to state that our ancestors come from Africa, and some of us more recently than others.
Some of us still retain elements of African-ism in us, while others like yourself have lost absolutely all traces of having African ancestors.

Better for those like yourself just to highlight your Russian heritage.

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quote:
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[QB] In a sense.
Better to state that our ancestors come from Africa, and some of us more recently than others.
Some of us still retain elements of African-ism in us,

So do you retain the Africanism?
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For those who are ignorant of this fact, and there are many of such here, there is nowhere greater than Africa, or that has contributed more to the civilisation of mankind than Africa.

I gonna show who needs to be shown:

Lalibela

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MUURZ coming.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
^ This is what perplexes me to no end. The fact of the absence of written records from Africa detailing major ancient events that the rest of the world has records of.
Were Africans so primitive to had never developed writing prior to being taught by foreigners?....

etc...etc...etc...

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by R.Havoc:
Would Africa Be Better With More Non-Africans?

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Just the understanding and acknowledgement that what you historically did - failed;

Allows for thoughtful analysis of WHY you failed.

Once Africans start thinking and planning, ....etc...etc..etc...

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Silly me, I just assumed that Sudanese and other such Africans, simply scuffed at Turks calling themselves Arabs.

Especially since the Sudanese/Nubians anciently had writing, and should know better.

Clearly no Africans kept a written history after Egypt fell. None of them know any better.

Wrong again Mike111. Time to update on your African History Class 101:

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Located in Gondar, which once served as the capital of the Ethiopian Empire, Yohannes Castle was built in the 17th century for Emperor Yohannes I. It is said to be as great as the palace of King Solomon.

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quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Actually, Africa would be better off if African Negroes stopped trying to perform poor imitations of brain diseased European albinos and instead focused on cultivation of African ORIGINAL thought, world-view and processes........etc...

Been there...

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Fasilides Castle, Fasil Ghebbi, Ethiopia
This castle is the crown jewel of the original fortress city of Fasil Ghebbi. Unique Ethiopian style of architecture ....

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quote:
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^ 30%!?!
that can't possibly be correct. Must be a typo. This is 2017AD, not 2017BC.
If this is true, then Africans are indeed a continent of lame brains. I don't believe it.

Ancient City of Eyl Somalia

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There is also the walls of Benin West Africa:

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Probably the largest man made wall in the world, even bigger then the Great Wall in certain measurements...

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Ancient City of Merca, Somalia

Swahili Style Coral Stone Architecture
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Medieval Nubia

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^ all of the above are relative recent constructions, less than 1000 years old. Also, they appear to possess Roman or European influence.
For example the construction of China's great wall began in 700BC, over 2000 years ago, so it's not fair to compare the relatively recent walls of Benin.
Post some scrolls, manuscript, tablets or any African writings corresponding to Egypt's Old Kingdom, 2500BC.

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^^Is Egypt not in Africa?

King Djoser the Dread

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quote:
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Post some scrolls, manuscript, tablets or any African writings corresponding to Egypt's Old Kingdom, 2500BC.

You don't appear to know very much about Africa, bro.

Do you know Geez?

Geez is the oldest script in the world today ...

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Geez comes from Ethiopia but is used today even in Armenia, Georgia, Abhkazia. It forms the basis and the characters of Armenian numbering system...

Armenian numbering system based on Ethiopian Geez:

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Kumasi 1874

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quote:
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^ all of the above are relative recent constructions, less than 1000 years old. Also, they appear to possess Roman or European influence.
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LOL!

Those are ancient African architecture which the Europeans copied. Go study the details of the Temple in Karnak and compare it with the temple in Athens.

We Africans been there and done that already. Throw away your inferiority complex. Read Muur about Africa...

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The ruins of ancient Meroë lie in Upper Nubia, now within Sudan - in its day it was a wealthy metropolis that stretched along the east bank of the Nile

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Kingdom of Kush (Nepata / Meroë)
785 BC - c.AD 350

The Nubian city of Napata was situated on the west bank of the Nile, about 400km north of Khartoum (the modern capital of Sudan). It was built by the Egyptians around 1450 BC. Since the early dynastic period the Egyptians had been interested in Nubia and its rich gold reserves, and they soon controlled trade there...

http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsAfrica/AfricaKush.htm

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Temple of Soleb Nubia Sudan:

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Apedemek, the Lion of Sudan

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Aksum, Ethiopia - Recreation of palace at Dungur

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Smaller Aksumite Palace

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Ruins of the Yeha Temple at D'mt Ethiopia

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quote:
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^ This is what perplexes me to no end. The fact of the absence of written records from Africa detailing major ancient events that the rest of the world has records of.
Were Africans so primitive to had never developed writing prior to being taught by foreigners?
Every time there is a discussion around this topic and some African or historian states they didn't, but they didn't need to become of their oral tradition, it make me want to puke. As if oral traditions are a reliable method of passing on knowledge and history.
Ancient Egypt definitely possessed some long forgotten form of technology in it's history and there are many myth and legends describing it. Around the same period in time, ancient India is also recorded to have possessed a form of high technology, and there is also the well known myth of Atlantis which supposed to have existed during the same period.
Why is it that no where in African history can any records be found that record Africans and their interactions with any of these advanced ancient cultures?

The problem with traditional African societies is that everything is kept within the confines of the secret society. As a result, the elders keep all knowledge away from the masses through an oath of secrecy, maintained by keeping history through oral transmission.

Asians and Europeans have never had the integrity to maintain accurate oral records. as a result, these populations keep history through written media.

Because everything is kept in the secret society, in African traditional cultures, you only learn about the greatness of African societies when they migrant to new areas like the Nile Valley or LaVenta in Mexico. Here they made evident the sciences and knowledge they had learned in the secret society in plain sight because they were not controlled by the elders who could force them to adhere to an oath of secrecy.

The sciences were considered practical arts, so you learned them through apprenticeship. this method education and history was adequate until Africans met Europeans and Asians. These populations did not believe in sharing plus they practiced genocide as a way to take, and make new lands under their control. In the process of conquering new lands, the oral historians were killed off and the history was usually lost.

After Europeans came in contact with Africans, many Africans began to detest the arrogance of Europeans and hey began to tell them secrets about their societies such as religion and writing to let Europeans know their civilizations were just as highly developed as those of Europe.

You can bet that Europeans may have found written histories recorded by Africans detailing historical events but they are not going to publish them, because they like to keep certain aspects of history secret so they can control us.

This is one of the reasons I learned how to read just about all the ancient languages spoken by the civilizations of the world so I could get a true picture of our history.

As Mike and I like to say Europeans lie. they tell us only what they want us to know. The best example is the roots of Afro-Americans. Look at how they were able to make us believe, eventhough our parents may have told us otherwise, that the Apache were the "Copper Colored" Native Americans when this was never the case. If they could hide the fact that many of our ancestors were the indigenous Americans, think about what else they are hiding.

it is for this reason Eurocentrics and the Academe promote people like Gates and Keita as symbols of astute 'African-American scholars, while they vilify Asante, Mike, Mar Washington and myself. They hate us because Asante provided researchers with a methodology to research our history, Mike and Marc Washington gave us the pictorial evidence of the makers of Black/African civilizations, while I provide the basic research confirming the theories about our history developed by W.E.B. DuBois .

We must never forget that it was Dubois' Negro, and The World and Africa, that influenced all the modern Afrocentic researchers from Anta Diop to J.A. Rogers.

I thank God everyday that my research and the pictoral evidence accumulated by Mike and Marc Washington will lead our dedicated researchers in finding and disseminating the truth about the history of Black and African people.

Aluta continua...the struggle to free our minds continues...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
^ all of the above are relative recent constructions, less than 1000 years old. Also, they appear to possess Roman or European influence.
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LOL!

Those are ancient African architecture which the Europeans copied. Go study the details of the Temple in Karnak and compare it with the temple in Athens.

We Africans been there and done that already. Throw away your inferiority complex. Read Muur about Africa...

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The ruins of ancient Meroë lie in Upper Nubia, now within Sudan - in its day it was a wealthy metropolis that stretched along the east bank of the Nile

NB:

Kingdom of Kush (Nepata / Meroë)
785 BC - c.AD 350

The Nubian city of Napata was situated on the west bank of the Nile, about 400km north of Khartoum (the modern capital of Sudan). It was built by the Egyptians around 1450 BC. Since the early dynastic period the Egyptians had been interested in Nubia and its rich gold reserves, and they soon controlled trade there...

http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsAfrica/AfricaKush.htm

To my knowledge, Meroe is one of the only African kingdoms meeting the description I've asked for and I had to look to an African American scholar, Dr. Winters to get any meaningful translation.
As you and I are aware, Meroe's culture strongly modelled Egypt's. Not Egypt's Old Kingdom, but it's New Kingdom.
What I find strange is how complete the destruction of Meroe was and it appears the destruction wasn't done by Europeans, but by Africans.

Don't get defensive.
I'm merely trying to get new information but I'm sure it won't be coming any time soon.

I'm attempting to find a time line for African culture that parallels that of other cultures such as Korea who possess written records of their development from as early as 2400BC.
In spite of being ravaged by China, The Mongrels (Jin) and Japan, they managed to preserve their historic records.
I find it impossible to believe that all of Africa's written records were destroyed. More probable is that the records never existed because unlike China or Korea, the majority of Africa's numerous kingdoms hadn't developed writing.
This isn't surprising since Africa has never unified. Unification requires common language and writing which most of Africa didn't have.

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Chinese, Japanese are one super tribe of Han people.

Africa is a continent.

Many tribes still have their lores preserved. It appears you know nothing about Geez. Read up on Geez... Oldest living writing in the world today.

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MOM has explained to you several times that those Asians you worship were barbarians until early 20th century.

Koreans know not their origins. Yet you want to use them as the measure of civilisation? A yardstick to assess ancient Mother land, the land of the Gods and man lions? Too bad...

Show me a 3000 year temple in China, Japan or Manchuria...

You can accept whatever lore that feeds your inferiority complex or your ego, whatever... works for you..lol

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