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Mena:Yes i am using my imagination and speculating in that thread. The wonderful movie trading places was about the Duke brothers two wealthy Jewish or WASP investment bankers CEO who decided to make a $1 bet about rather blood or environment was the reason a person become successful. The Duke brother to test their theory decided to turned their White star commodity trader employee played by Dan Aykroid into a poor street criminal and a Black street criminal played by Eddy Murphy into their star commodity trader employee. The Black criminal who became the Dukes star commodity trader figure out they were using him and he decided to unite with the ex White commodity trader to bankrupted the Duke brothers.

Hollywood is a very symbol litterate place. I am asking my self if the producer of the move Aaron Russo and director John Landis was symbolically telling their audience about the change of political power that happened in Europe and the world were the Black Kings were replaced by White Kings. Also according to conspiracy theorist the International bankers of Europe and the secret societies that they controlled were responsible for the Glorious revolution of England, the French revolution, the Russian revolution that have destroyed the old monarchy of Europe.

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Black Pharaoh Djoser of Ancient Egypt

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Mulato modern Egyptian president Abdel Fattah El Sissi

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Roman Emperor Caracalla

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Roman Emperor Vespasian

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Black King of England Edward III

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White Queen of United Kingdoms Elizabeth II

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Black Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I


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German White Prime minister Angela Merkel
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Black King of France Charles V

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France White President Francois Holland

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Black Chief of the Iroquois Confederacy



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United States of America White President Donald Trump

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Black Chinese tribe that gave China many great Emperor. The Chinese are very good at hiding their Black monarchs.
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Chinese Mulato President Xi Jinping

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Malik Ambhar Black King of Ahmadnaghar in India

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Indian Mulato President Narendra Modi

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Eh the Indian and Chinese portion is wrong, the Chinese have not been Black since the Xia dynasty; the Shang, Zhou, Qin and Tang dynasties, the major defining dynasties of Ancient China were all run by and created by White Indo-Europeans.

Also Modi is characteristically Indian, and falls within the Indian spectrum of looks and color, and does not have any white in him. He does not even come from the upper classes of India anyways....

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White Indo-Europeans did not found any civilizations in China.Where are the works of art of ancient Chinese whites? Where are the Indo-European terms in ancient Chinese?

Zhou and Anyang-Shang were the early Mongoloid civilization of China. But there were other Black dynasties in China, besides Xia and Shang.

The first Blacks to settle China were the Anu or pgymies. After great flood the Anu, retreated to the Kunlun Mountains.

The Kushites after the flood made their way to China from two directions. The Megalithic Kushites came to East Asia by Sea between 3000-2500 BC. They spread across China depositing the megalithic and pyramid building culture in China from the coast up into North and Central China.

By 2300 BC the Elamites (Mande speakers) and Dravidians from the Indus Valley began to migrate through Central Asia into North China. They founded the Xia Dynasty recovered much of the land that was covered by water.

The Xia Dynasty declined and the Dravidians founded the first Shang dynasty. Most of the descendants of the Xia Dynasty that did not remain with Shang became the Qiang tribes.

In the Chinese literature the Blacks were called li-min, Kunlung, Ch'iang (Qiang), Yi and Yueh. The founders of the Xia Dynasty and the Shang Dynasties were blacks. These blacks were called Yueh and Qiang. There are many beautiful artifacts depicting these Blacks in the Shaanxi and Xian Museum: http://hua.umf.maine.edu/China/xian3.html#02

In accordance with the oral traditions of China, the founders of Chinese civilization were Huangdi and Fu Xi. These legendary rulers like Dai Hao, were all buried in zhiu (burial mounds). The presence of this mound culture in China supports the traditions of burial of elects in mound tombs.

The skeletal remains from southern China are predominately negroid. (Chang 1964, p.70) The people practiced single burials.
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In northern China the blacks founded many civilizations. The three major empires of China were the Xia Dynasty (c.2205-1766 B.C), Shang/ Yin Dynasty (c.1700-1050 B.C) and the Zhou Dynasty.The Zhou dynasty was the first dynasty founded by the Mongoloid people in China called Hua (Who-aa).

The founders of Xia and Shang came from the Fertile African Crescent by way of Iran. According to Chinese legends the first man Pan Gu, used a hammer 18,000 years ago to make man.
The Chinese legends designate various culture heroes as the inventors of various aspects of Chinese civilization.

The Chinese term for emperor is Di. Huang Di (Yellow Emperor), is the Chinese culture hero credited with introducing boats, carts 'chariots, the bow and arrow, ceramics, wooded houses and writing.

Chinese civilization began along the Yellow river . Here the soil was fertile and black Chinese farmers grew millet 4000 years ago, and later soybeans. They also raised pigs and cattle. By 3500 B.C., the blacks in China were raising silkworms and making silk.

The culture hero Huang Di is a direct link of Africa. His name was pronounced in old Chinese Yuhai Huandi or Hu Nak Kunte. He was supposed to have arrived in China from the west in 2282 B.C., and settled along the banks of the Loh river in Shanxi. This transliteration of Huandgi, to Hu Nak Kunte is interesting because Kunte is a common clan name among the Manding speakers.

The Africans or blacks that founded civilization in China were often called li min "black headed people" by the Zhou dynasts. This term has affinity to the Sumero-Akkadian term sag- gig-ga "black headed people". These li min are associated with the Chinese cultural hero Yao.

In the Annals of the Bamboo Books, we learn that Yao devised a calendar to help regulate agrarian work through proper use of ritual and music and created a rudimentary government. The Annals of the Bamboo Books, makes it clear that Yao "he united and harmonized the myriad states [of his dominion], and the [li min] black headed people were reformed by his cordial agreement".

We also read that Shun, the successor of Yao, distinguished by his reputation as an obedient devoted son, noted to : "Ki [that] the Black headed people are suffering the distress of hunger". To help relieve the people Shun gave his throne over to Yu, the founder of the Shang Dynasty. Yu, in the Annals of the Bamboo Books, is reported to have noted that "...when a sovereign gives response to the people, he is kind, and the Black headed people cherish him in their heart". P> The first dynasty of China was Xia (She-ya). The Xia dynasty lasted from 2205 to 1766 B.C. According to the Guben zhu Shu zhi Nien, the Xia dynasty "from Yu to Zhieh had seventeen kings... and lasted 471 years". (Chang 1987)

Archaeologists believe that the major Xia sites are located in Shanxi and Henan. According to Chang (1987) northern Henan towards the end of the Longshan period was the eastern part of the Xia culture.

Xia was probably situated in the Yihe and Luohe river valleys, and along the Yinghe and Ruhe rivers. The capital of Xia was located in the Sangshan mountains.

The origins of Xia go back to the Longshan period. During the Longshan period burial goods included a large number of weapons, including stone lanceheads and arrows. This suggests that intersocial conflict was at its height during the Longshan periods, and warfare may have played a role in the rise of Xia. The Longshan neolithic is characterized by wheel-made pottery, bronze working, ceramics, wheeled vehicles, writing, rich grave goods and furnishings.

The Chinese histories tell us much about Xia. According to Chinese tradition the Xia built their settlements near rivers, lakes and streams. The Xia Dynasty is mentioned in the oracle bone records.

The leaders of Xia were granted rule based on their Ssu (clan) membership. The Xia naming system employed the ten celestial stems the same as the Shang people. (Chang 1980,p.353)

The national tree of the Xia li min was the pine. This tree was used in the earth ritual.
Xia social organization, and life was based on the clan .


The totems of the major Xia clans were aquatic animals: fish, tortoise, turtle and etc. This view is supported by the myth recorded in the Annals of the Bamboo Books, which claims that Yu's mother swallowed a spirits pearl before the birth of Di (Lord) Yu, founder of the Xia Dynasty. Moreover , the dragon motif is common at Xia sites. A pan vessel was found at Taosi, with a red painted dragon motif.

The Chinese histories make it clear that the Xia had writing and tortoise books. This view can be supported by the pottery marks on the Longshan and Erlitou pottery. (Chang 1987, p.265)

Xia is considered the first dynasty of the sandai (three Dynasties) of ancient China: Xia, Shang and Zhou. There are many references to the Xia people. The Xia people were recognized as westerners, because they settled the middle Yellow river region of China. As a result they were called the Hua Xia "the middle states people".

There are numerous textual references to Xia. Han Fei Tzu writing in the third century B.C., in his Shih Guo, observed that:
"Yu made the ritual vessels painting the interior black and the exterior in red."
The tradition recorded by Han, of the black-and-red ware for the Xia li min suggest some relationship of Xia to the Yangshao culture which also used BRW and analogous pottery signs.

Chang (1987) believes that the legendary sages and heroes of China, probably lived during the Lungshan culture period. The Lungshan culture had walled cities and evidence of rank and rituals. This clearly illustrates how archaeology can compliment textual history.
The artifacts of Erlitou include BRW, red-and-black and buff wares. These artifacts were made of stone, shell and bronze.

The bronze instruments found by archaeologists at Erlitou sites correspond to the descriptions by Yuan Kang, in the Yueh Zhueh Shu, quoting the philosopher Feng Hu Tzu of the tools made by the Xia. Yuan Kang wrote that:
"In the Age of Yu, weapons were made of bronze, for building canals...and..houses...."
The black-and-red ware (BRW) common to the Fertile African Crescent was also used in China. There is affinity between the BRW from Nubia, and the pottery from Yangshao sites in the Henan and Gansu sites of China.
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The textual history of Xia is synthesized in the Chinese book Shih Zhi. This evidence from the Shih Zhi, was used by Hsu Husheng , of the Chinese Institute of Archaeology, to find the xu (ruins) of Xia: the Xia xu. Hsu Husheng using this source hypothesized that the center for traditional Xia Dynasty towns was the Loyang plains and the Dengfeng river valley. This coincides with the Erlitou sites of this area which date to 2100- 1800 B.C.

The Xia people were recognized as being different people from the mongoloid Chinese they politically dominate China today as a people that came from the west (i.e., Iran), before they settled the middle Yellow river. A Zhou saying observed that :
"The rituals [or rules of] the Three Dynasties [sandai] are one".

The early Xia lived on mounds, in houses made of grass and mud. Pounded earth walls surrounded Xia villages to protect the li mim from attack. The Xia probably spoke a Manding language. This view is supported by the earlier discussion of the analogy between ancient Chinese and Manding.


The modern Chinese are descendants of the Hua tribes that founded Zhou. The second Shang Dynasty ( situated at Anyang) was founded by the Yin. As a result this dynasty is called Shang-Yin. The Yin or Oceanic Mongoloid type is associated with the Austronesian speakers ( Kwang-chih Chang, "Prehistoric and early historic culture horizons and traditions in South China", Current Anthropology, 5 (1964) pp.359-375 :375).

The Classical Mongoloids, Austronesian or Oceanic Mongoloid type were called Yin, Feng, Yen, Zhiu Yi and Lun Yi.

The Classical mongoloids appear to may have originated in Anatolia. The Han and Mongolians (the taller) mongoloids originated in the Tian Shan mountains.

During the Anyang-Shang period, the Qiang lived in Ch'iang Fang, a country to the west of Yin-Shang . The Qiang people were often referred to as the Ta Qiang "many Qiang", they were used as agricultural workers, and used in Yin-Shang ancestral rites as sacrifice victims.


The Dravidians mated with Classical mongoloids. The Classical mongoloids conquered the Shang, and founded the Anyang-Shang Empire.

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The Yueh /Yue zhi or Dravido-Shang retreated into Yunnan. In Yunnan they founded several States. The principal States founded by these Blacks before the rise of the Qin Chinese Empire were the States of Yue-Wu and Ba-Shu.
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The Yue-Wu state was part of the ‘geometric impressed pottey culture of South China. The Yue-Wu culture extended from the South China Sea to Taiwan. Yue-Wu was conquered by the Chinese King Weiwang of the Chu State.

Ba-Shu was a Black state established in the southwestern part of Sichuen and the Dian state of Yunnan. It appears that Ba-Shu was state founded by the Anu or Pygmy people. They were later joined by Mande and Dravidian speakers from Xia and Shang.


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The diversity of ethnic groups in Ba-Shu is made evident in the Buckle ornament with a ritual scene from Lijishan in Jiangchuan, China. The people of Ba-Shu were referred to as the southern Man. They represent the ancestors of the Baiman, Puman and Wuman.

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The Ba state was centered in the area of Chengdu, Sihcuan. The Shu state was separated from the Central plains by Qin and Ba. They were known as great seamen .

The Ba-Shu made ordinary earthen pit graves and boat coffins. They worked in bronze and had their own writing system. The artifacts from Dapona resemble the bronze from Lake Dian, a centre of the Dong-son culture.

After the Black states of Yue, Ba and Shu were defeated by Qin, the Yueh people fled to the southwest and into Annam. During the Han Dynasty the fragmented Yueh states and people were incorporated in the Han Empire.

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The Yueh (Dravido-Shang), who were not incorporated in the Han Empire. began to migrate southward into Southeast Asia. By this time the major power in Southeast Asia, were the Naga kings from Ethiopia.

The Han/Mongolians began to migrate out of the Tian Shan mountains and took control of Anyang-Shang. This forced the classical Mongoloid people to migrate into Indonesia.

Other classical mongoloids began to migrate into Southeast Asia and onto the Islands as they fled East Asia (China). The Classical mongoloids and the megalithic Kushites are probably the ancestors of the Polynesians.

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^Both mena7 and Mindovermatter should be discouraged from posting such nonsensical material unless they clearly indicate that it is a joke.

A stranger stumbling onto the ES site and seeing a thread "Was the movie Trading Places symbolically telling us about a racial change of power".

Or "The Vela supernova, the supernova that created White Europeans/Eurasians".

Would certainly think that this is a "Crackpot" site. Perhaps that is their very intention.

But do we have to play along?

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I can understand where you're coming from with mena7 but a powerful astrological event spawning whites seems to kooky to you even though he supplies info to support his belief,most people don't know the only difference between an African albino and whites is the form of the face and that's not entirely true when factoring thin featured Africans.
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Here's a story about a Ethiopian girl with albinism.

http://sites.middlebury.edu/middmag/2017/05/10/through-the-looking-glass/

n. She recalls the sidelong glances of this “big black guy walking down the street with a little white girl.” And while she reminds me that her appearance was more stark then—“I was six or seven years old, so I wasn’t wearing makeup. My hair was white, my eyebrows and eyelashes were white, my skin extremely pale”—she says that people didn’t really pay much attention to the albinism. “What seemed to make a difference to them was my being an immigrant,” she says.

At first, she says, people assumed she was Scandinavian, but when she explained that she was Ethiopian, opinions of her grew harsher.

“I was bullied,” she says, “though I guess I didn’t know what that was then. I just thought people were being mean.” She remembers one classmate in particular, who, upon hearing she was from Ethiopia, began to sing about Mussolini invading her country. “He told me his grandmother loved Mussolini,” she says, a sense of wonder still present in her voice all these years later.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Both mena7 and Mindovermatter should be discouraged from posting such nonsensical material unless they clearly indicate that it is a joke.

A stranger stumbling onto the ES site and seeing a thread "Was the movie Trading Places symbolically telling us about a racial change of power".

Or "The Vela supernova, the supernova that created White Europeans/Eurasians".

Would certainly think that this is a "Crackpot" site. Perhaps that is their very intention.

But do we have to play along?

Umm here is the thing, I subscribe to this thing called REALITY AND FACTS! Which is why I am not afraid to admit to the truth even when it contests or becomes problematic towards whatever personal beliefs I might have. It's called objectivity, and I understand this is something that Clyde has a hard time grasping or fundamentally understanding.


There is absolutely nothing non-sensical or silly about what I just claimed. FACT! Were the Shang, Zhou, Qin, and Tang dynasties set up by barbarian Indo-Europeans Whites FROM OUTSIDE OF CHINA FROM THE CENTRAL ASIA AND SIBERIA REGIONS? YES THEY WERE! To deny it would be too deny the truth, given that the Chinese literature ADMITS TO THIS BEING THE CASE AND THOSE DYNASTIES BEING OF FOREIGN BARBARIAN ORIGINS!


Let's see your own website admits that the Zhou dynasty and the Tang Dynasty were obviously run by albinos, your own website also admits that the Tocharians and the Yuezhi were obviously white and the Chinese literature admits that.

Your own website admits that albinos were pre-dominant in Central Asia and Siberia region in the Ancient period; and it's funny seeing you going around in circles denying your own material trying to somehow accommodate Clyde's loony beliefs and then idiotically contradicting your own writings in the process repeatedly.

The genesis of your entire claim about Whites not being indigenous to Europe, is that they were from Central Asia and Siberia and mass migrated to Europe recently, which seemingly seems to contradict Clyde's idiotic silly claims so far. It is a fact that White Indo-European/Turkic like people were pre-dominant in Central Asia and Siberia in ancient times, given the research and evidence uncovered as of recent.


Yet the Chinese literature and indeed ACTUAL EVIDENCE in the form of genetics and archaeological remains, (which I have posted here before numerous times) and the mythic evidence from China, shows that the Shang, Zhou, Qin, and Tang dynasties were all set up by "foreign barbarians" and "outsiders" coming INTO ANCIENT CHINA FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CHINA REGION AND THEN SETTING UP THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE DYNASTIES THERE!

And where did the vast majority of outside invasions of Ancient China come from? FROM SIBERIA AND CENTRAL ASIA WHERE YOU CLAIM ALBINOS WERE PRE-DOMINANT IN ANCIENT TIMES!
I already covered this extensively and have repeatedly proved it in the Chinese professor thread a while back. Feel free to go through it again if you don't believe me.


And there is nothing non-sensical about the Vela supernova theory or thread, since even Narmerthoth admits that its reasonably sound and falls along scientific research and principles; which mainstream scientific publication, as I posted in that thread, has actually admitted indirectly as to the contents of that thread.

If you are too ignorant or rigid-minded to understand what's been offered in that thread so far, that's not my problem. If you don't believe me that go look through that thread and review the contents there.

Also if you are concerned about people thinking this is a "crackpot site", I would just like to mention that your website realhistory is seen as a "crackpot" site and a joke by the rest of the internet, and most of mainstream academia.

Even your claim about whites being "dravidian albinos" is being seen as a crack pot idea, as are your assertions about all of Europe's old kings and nobles being black and then being whitened over, which is again seen as a fantasy crack pot idea by most people I have argued with on the subject.

So I really don't see where this is coming from, and why you are suddenly so concerned about other people and you hilariously running in circles and contradicting and denying your own claims and ideas all of a sudden.


And don't get me started how much of a loony Clyde is seen by anyone who reads his stuff when he spams threads with his far out and outright crazy bullshit claims....

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

Bill Maher Blames Hollywood for Ruining America and Giving Us President Trump

Marlow Stern
05.20.17 12:02 AM ET

Cracked Maher. “But that’s not how Hollywood ruined America. It did it by making everything about superheroes.”

Although most superhero products are consumed/purchased by teenagers too young to vote, Maher argued that the current superhero glut has warped Americans’ minds. After listing the dozens and dozens of superhero projects that have crash-landed onto screens big and small, from Supergirl and Daredevil to Guardians of the Galaxy and The Avengers, the comedian got to the meat of his theory.

“If you’re asking, what’s the problem? The problem is that superhero movies imprint this mindset that we are not masters of our own destiny, and the best thing we can do is sit back and wait for Star Lord and a fucking raccoon to sweep in and save our sorry asses. Forget hard work, government institutions, diplomacy, investment. We just need a hero to rise.

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8,000 years ago, a nearby star collapsed close to our solar system, which weakened the Earth's radiation protection shield and caused an irritation reaction from our sun and bombarded our Earth's surface with high degrees of cosmic solar flare radiation and residue. This event was witnessed by the Ancient Sumerians and recorded in their writings:

We all know and have proved here countless times on this forum that White Europeans/Eurasians/Asians are albinos and not an actual race; they are not the result of natural evolution given all the characteristics and setbacks and strange genetic conditions whites suffer from due to their albinism condition. So how could a maladaptive bizarre genetic mutation become so common and so numerous, like albinism, as seen by the large numbers of whites existing today?

Obviously, it has to be due to cosmic radiation bombardment in excess!

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"Caught in the blast of gamma radiation, brilliant scientist Bruce Banner is cursed to transform in times of stress into the living engine of destruction known as THE INCREDIBLE HULK. "


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The Fantastic Four is formed when during an outer space test flight in an experimental rocket ship, the four protagonists are bombarded by a storm of cosmic rays.

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^^^^^^^Just when Mike is shown his hypocrisy and contradictions, he resorts to liarness like antics, how pathetic! Also I don't watch hollywood movies, so I don't get anything from there and I don't read comics, so you are going to have to come up with something better!
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quote:
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Originally posted by Mike111:

Bill Maher Blames Hollywood for Ruining America and Giving Us President Trump

Marlow Stern
05.20.17 12:02 AM ET

Cracked Maher. “But that’s not how Hollywood ruined America. It did it by making everything about superheroes.”

Although most superhero products are consumed/purchased by teenagers too young to vote, Maher argued that the current superhero glut has warped Americans’ minds. After listing the dozens and dozens of superhero projects that have crash-landed onto screens big and small, from Supergirl and Daredevil to Guardians of the Galaxy and The Avengers, the comedian got to the meat of his theory.

“If you’re asking, what’s the problem? The problem is that superhero movies imprint this mindset that we are not masters of our own destiny, and the best thing we can do is sit back and wait for Star Lord and a fucking raccoon to sweep in and save our sorry asses. Forget hard work, government institutions, diplomacy, investment. We just need a hero to rise.

quote:
Originally posted by Mindovermatter:

8,000 years ago, a nearby star collapsed close to our solar system, which weakened the Earth's radiation protection shield and caused an irritation reaction from our sun and bombarded our Earth's surface with high degrees of cosmic solar flare radiation and residue. This event was witnessed by the Ancient Sumerians and recorded in their writings:

We all know and have proved here countless times on this forum that White Europeans/Eurasians/Asians are albinos and not an actual race; they are not the result of natural evolution given all the characteristics and setbacks and strange genetic conditions whites suffer from due to their albinism condition. So how could a maladaptive bizarre genetic mutation become so common and so numerous, like albinism, as seen by the large numbers of whites existing today?

Obviously, it has to be due to cosmic radiation bombardment in excess!

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"Caught in the blast of gamma radiation, brilliant scientist Bruce Banner is cursed to transform in times of stress into the living engine of destruction known as THE INCREDIBLE HULK. "


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The Fantastic Four is formed when during an outer space test flight in an experimental rocket ship, the four protagonists are bombarded by a storm of cosmic rays.

This really does express the psychology of the Eurobino brain/mind, where they are always looking to take a short cut in evolution and one of the main paths they believed would enable their frail bodies to "evolve" was through controlled radiation exposure.

I've already posted a thread on the Nuclear bomb blasts the US conducted in the Marshall Islands and subjected the people of color of those islands to decades of radiation exposure.

Panel Urges U.S. to Apologize for Radiation Testing and Pay Damages By PHILIP J. HILTS Published: October 3, 1995

BOSTON, Oct. 2— After reviewing 30 years of Government-sponsored radiation experiments on humans, a Presidential Committee has concluded that many were unethical and that the Government should apologize.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/10/03/us/panel-urges-us-to-apologize-for-radiation-testing-and-pay-damages.html

US Eurobinos thought by having human ingest radioactive pills, they would evolve into futuristic humans.
Plutonium Files: How the U.S. Secretly Fed Radioactivity to Thousands of Americans

Denver-based journalist Eileen Welsome reveals how as a reporter for the tiny Albuquerque Tribune (circulation 35,000) she uncovered one of the country’s great Cold War secrets: the U.S. government had knowingly exposed thousands of human Guinea pigs with radiation poisoning including 18 Americans who had plutonium injected directly into their bloodstream. [includes rush transcript]

In a Massachusetts school, seventy-three disabled children were spoon-fed oatmeal laced with radioactive isotopes.

In an upstate New York hospital, an eighteen-year-old woman believing she was being treated for a pituitary disorder, was injected with plutonium.

At a Tennessee clinic, 829 pregnant women were served "vitamin cocktails" containing radioactive iron, as part of their regular treatment.

No these are not acts of terrorism by common criminals.

These are just some of the secret human radiation experiments that the U.S. government conducted on unsuspecting Americans for decades as part of its atom bomb program.

https://www.democracynow.org/2004/5/5/plutonium_files_how_the_u_s

America’s atomic vets: ‘We were used as guinea pigs – every one of us’

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The U.S. crews who took part in the Operation Hardtack I nuclear tests in 1958 are among the hundreds of thousands of service members now known as “atomic veterans.”Credit: Courtesy of the National Nuclear Security Administration’s Nevada Field Office

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Marines prepare to charge an “objective” seconds after Operation Tumbler-Snapper’s shot at the Nevada testing site in 1952.
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Injected Prisoners with Agent Orange

While he received funding from Agent Orange producer Dow Chemical Company, the U.S. Army, and Johnson & Johnson, Dr. Albert Kligman used prisoners as subjects in what was deemed "dermatological research."

The dermatology aspect was testing out product the effects of Agent Orange on the skin. For the effects Agent Orange had on the Vietnamese during the Vietnam War, please click here. (WARNING images in this article may be extremely disturbing, as they include extreme human deformation, including that of infants.)

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Radiated on purpose as an infant in the 1950's, cancer developed years later

I was born in the 1950's and treated with radiation as a newborn. I weighed 9lbs. 6oz. and my mom was told I was too big and had an enlarged thymus and radiation was necessary to prevent me from growing to gigantic proportions. Years later it came out that many babies were treated with radiation. The doctors I've found who know about it say basically back then it was young doctors with new toys that they wanted to use. They estimate a million babies were radiated during the 50's. Does anyone else know about this and can you share any information. I've battled thyroid cancer for 9 years now, it's come back throughout my lymph system. I've had a radical neck dissection and am told it may very well come back again. Just wondering what other folks know about this. Thanks for your time!

The Eurobino mind figures the path to advancing the mind and body is by way of PILLS. Today, we have many hundreds of forms of STEROIDS and PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, that Eurobinos such as Arnold schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, the heavyweight boxing Klitscho brothers and other Eurobinos take to develop muscle.
Now, the emphasis is on genetic manipulation to achieve the same goals.

This is another difference between the Eurobino and Asian mindset.

Asians have always promoted that the way to mental growth was through ENLIGHTENMENT, which meant understanding themselves through mental exercise, and once accomplished, physical attributes could be willed and controlled through mental will. They also looked for ways to extend life using an exotic combination of natural herbs and animal extracts, but not atomic radiation like Eurobinos.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mindovermatter:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Both mena7 and Mindovermatter should be discouraged from posting such nonsensical material unless they clearly indicate that it is a joke.

A stranger stumbling onto the ES site and seeing a thread "Was the movie Trading Places symbolically telling us about a racial change of power".

Or "The Vela supernova, the supernova that created White Europeans/Eurasians".

Would certainly think that this is a "Crackpot" site. Perhaps that is their very intention.

But do we have to play along?

Umm here is the thing, I subscribe to this thing called REALITY AND FACTS! Which is why I am not afraid to admit to the truth even when it contests or becomes problematic towards whatever personal beliefs I might have. It's called objectivity, and I understand this is something that Clyde has a hard time grasping or fundamentally understanding.


There is absolutely nothing non-sensical or silly about what I just claimed. FACT! Were the Shang, Zhou, Qin, and Tang dynasties set up by barbarian Indo-Europeans Whites FROM OUTSIDE OF CHINA FROM THE CENTRAL ASIA AND SIBERIA REGIONS? YES THEY WERE! To deny it would be too deny the truth, given that the Chinese literature ADMITS TO THIS BEING THE CASE AND THOSE DYNASTIES BEING OF FOREIGN BARBARIAN ORIGINS!


Let's see your own website admits that the Zhou dynasty and the Tang Dynasty were obviously run by albinos, your own website also admits that the Tocharians and the Yuezhi were obviously white and the Chinese literature admits that.

Your own website admits that albinos were pre-dominant in Central Asia and Siberia region in the Ancient period; and it's funny seeing you going around in circles denying your own material trying to somehow accommodate Clyde's loony beliefs and then idiotically contradicting your own writings in the process repeatedly.

The genesis of your entire claim about Whites not being indigenous to Europe, is that they were from Central Asia and Siberia and mass migrated to Europe recently, which seemingly seems to contradict Clyde's idiotic silly claims so far. It is a fact that White Indo-European/Turkic like people were pre-dominant in Central Asia and Siberia in ancient times, given the research and evidence uncovered as of recent.


Yet the Chinese literature and indeed ACTUAL EVIDENCE in the form of genetics and archaeological remains, (which I have posted here before numerous times) and the mythic evidence from China, shows that the Shang, Zhou, Qin, and Tang dynasties were all set up by "foreign barbarians" and "outsiders" coming INTO ANCIENT CHINA FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CHINA REGION AND THEN SETTING UP THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE DYNASTIES THERE!

And where did the vast majority of outside invasions of Ancient China come from? FROM SIBERIA AND CENTRAL ASIA WHERE YOU CLAIM ALBINOS WERE PRE-DOMINANT IN ANCIENT TIMES!
I already covered this extensively and have repeatedly proved it in the Chinese professor thread a while back. Feel free to go through it again if you don't believe me.


And there is nothing non-sensical about the Vela supernova theory or thread, since even Narmerthoth admits that its reasonably sound and falls along scientific research and principles; which mainstream scientific publication, as I posted in that thread, has actually admitted indirectly as to the contents of that thread.

If you are too ignorant or rigid-minded to understand what's been offered in that thread so far, that's not my problem. If you don't believe me that go look through that thread and review the contents there.

Also if you are concerned about people thinking this is a "crackpot site", I would just like to mention that your website realhistory is seen as a "crackpot" site and a joke by the rest of the internet, and most of mainstream academia.

Even your claim about whites being "dravidian albinos" is being seen as a crack pot idea, as are your assertions about all of Europe's old kings and nobles being black and then being whitened over, which is again seen as a fantasy crack pot idea by most people I have argued with on the subject.

So I really don't see where this is coming from, and why you are suddenly so concerned about other people and you hilariously running in circles and contradicting and denying your own claims and ideas all of a sudden.


And don't get me started how much of a loony Clyde is seen by anyone who reads his stuff when he spams threads with his far out and outright crazy bullshit claims....

Stupid Euronut. There are no Chinese records claiming the Kushana, or Tocharians were Indo-European speakers.
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This is a myth. In fact there is no linguistic evidence linking Kushana and Indo-European. Tocharian was just a trade language used to unify the diverse populations that formerly lived in Central Asia. See: https://www.academia.edu/8563933/Is_Tocharian_a_Dravidian_Trade_Language

The Kushana/Yuezhi made fine sculptures and engraved beautiful carved sheets of ivory. Their plaques are some of the finest art pieces in India.

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The greatest king of the Kushana was Kaniska. Kaniska came to power between A.D. 78-144. (Thapar 1972, p.92)

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Kaniska ruled an empire extending from Central Asia, to Varansi in the Ganges Valley. He supported the arts and repaired many Kushana monuments and cities.

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Kaniska had two capitals. The capital in Central Asia was Bergraam or Kupura in Afghanistan, while in India the capital was established at Muthura.

The Kushana/ Yuezhi were at this time in control of the Silk Road, which took Chinese goods to the West. It was also under the Kushana that Buddhism entered China. The Kushana ruled India for almost 200 years.

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They show the Black African or Sub-Saharan African/Dravidian types.

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Nice post Clyde and Mike. Mike I am not saying the movie Trading Places is base on Black history but I see a similarity in the movie story were a White rich commodity trader was replaced by a poor Black street hustler to the Black European monarchs being replaced by White European monarchs. I am speculating I am not telling history.

I dont think the hundreds years old Black royal family of Europe were killed or replaced by a White bourgeoisie. I think the Black royal families of Europe who represented only 1% of the population were forced to intermarried with their White courtier family and the White bourgeoisie because of the increase of power of their White subject who represented 70% of the population in order for their children and grand children to become White in three generations.


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Black Aztec King Mutec Zuma


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Mestizo or Mulato Mexican President Enrique Pena Neto
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http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/South_America_2.htm

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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:


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Kaniska had two capitals. The capital in Central Asia was Bergraam or Kupura in Afghanistan, while in India the capital was established at Muthura.

The Kushana/ Yuezhi were at this time in control of the Silk Road, which took Chinese goods to the West. It was also under the Kushana that Buddhism entered China. The Kushana ruled India for almost 200 years.

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They show the Black African or Sub-Saharan African/Dravidian types.

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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:


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King Kaniska of the Kushan



Same sculpture different picture


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Scythian Head
Kushan, 2nd century A.D.
Mathura, Uttar Pradesh
Spotted red Sand stone. 45 x 18 x 6 cms
Acc. No. G. 32

The Kushanas, known variously as Scythians or Yueh-chih and who ruled from Mathura, were of Central Asian origin probably from the western borders of China. Their rule of about three hundred years witnessed the emergence and flowering of sculptural art synthesizing indigenous and external traditions.

Although, the heads of the two Kushana kings of Vima Kadaphises and Kanishka are now lost, they probably must have worn such conical caps.

The large eyes, a subtle smile, projecting eyebrows, rounded counters of the face as seen in this head found at Mathura (near Agra) are undoubtedly different from the contemporaneous Jain and Buddhist sculptures. The conical hat is not native bat associated with the Scythians. A Single Strand of beads that decorates the central median and borders of the hat reflects the style prevalent in the period.

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In about 730 B.C, Colchis was overrun by the White Kurgan tribes called Cimmerians and Scythians.

The Chinese describe the Yuezhi [Kushans] thusly: The skin of the people there is reddish white. The Sakas ultimately established an Indo-Scythian kingdom in northern India.
The Yuezhi were a Caucasoid people, as indicated by the portraits of their kings on the coins they struck following their exodus to Transoxiana (2nd-1st century B.C.), some old place names in Gansu explainable in Tocharian languages, and especially the coins they struck in India as Kushans (1st-3rd century A.D.).
Also, the Caucasian mummies of Pazyryk, which were probably Scythian in origin, were found around 1,500 kilometers northwest of the Yuezhi and date to around the 3rd century B.C.


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Mindovermatter, Clyde is sometimes right that certain historical ethnic groups were founded by blacks

But we all Clyde often goes overboard (possible senility setting in) and attributes blackness even to white groups. Did you ever notice when he routinely puts up sculptures that are often small photos and if you look closely the noses are often broken off. When the nose is broken off it gives the impression of flatness so when you first look at it it can give the impression of a flat or typically "black" nose when it is nothing more than most of the original nose not even being on the statue anymore?


We have to teach Clyde proper afrocentric method so he can distinguish what is really black from what is faux-black

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Rare picture of a Black Chinese Emperor of the Han Dynasty Wudi inside a Central Asian cave or West China cave. The Chinese government didnt change it because they didnt know it existed.

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Gold solidus coin from Carthage of Black Byzantine or Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian I, Date 527 CE.

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According to code writing in the Bible the first will become the last and the last will become the first. The first modern European slave trade was against the White Slavs of Eastern Europe and Russia. The second modern European slave trade was against the Black Africans.

The White European masses, serfs, slaves, artisans and professionals became the ruler of Europe and the World today. The Black race who was the race of the European Kings, nobility, scholars, scientists, philosophers, priests became the chattel slaves during the African Slave Trade and the second class citizen discriminated against all over the world today.

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Wiki: The Dying Slave is a sculpture by the Italian Renaissance artist Michelangelo. Created between 1513 and 1515, it was to serve with another figure, the Rebellious Slave, at the tomb of Pope Julius II. It is a marble figure 2.15 metres (7' 4") in height, and is held at the Louvre, Paris.

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quote:
Originally posted by mena7:

Nice post Clyde and Mike. Mike I am not saying the movie Trading Places is base on Black history but I see a similarity in the movie story were a White rich commodity trader was replaced by a poor Black street hustler to the Black European monarchs being replaced by White European monarchs. I am speculating I am not telling history.

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I fail to see the usefulness of using a modern comedy to highlight a fanciful wish for the future.

The Albinos are NOT preparing to hand over power to Blacks.

Albinos are NOT even admitting that their History is a made up lie.

So the real point of your fantasy is indeterminable.

Except that it seems to lean heavily on fanciful thinking.

Heads up:

There is nothing fanciful about what the Albinos did, they killed many millions, brought misery to many millions more. And ruined the minds of many generations of Blacks, trying to figure out where they fit in.

You don't combat that with analogies with comic movies.

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^^
I fail to see the usefulness of using a modern comedy to highlight a fanciful wish for the future.

The Europeans are NOT preparing to hand over power to Blacks. - CORRECT

Europeans are NOT even admitting that their History is a made up lie. - CORRECT, The more research I do it is astonishing the magnitude of lies being told and perpetuated even to today.

So the real point of your fantasy is indeterminable.

Except that it seems to lean heavily on fanciful thinking. - CORRECT

Heads up:

There is nothing fanciful about what the Europeans did, they killed many millions, brought misery to many millions more. And ruined the minds of many generations of Blacks, trying to figure out where they fit in.

You don't combat that with analogies with comic movies.

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Ohhh look Xy-YTpeople-hater is back how nice.

Mike, Xy-YT-Hater,Mena7 if you and the rest of the White people hating, Black supremacist squad had your way. White children/youth would be taught that they are diseased, talentless, inferior, non-humans. They would be taught that they have no history, no heritage, no identity. They would be taught that their ancestors built/accomplished nothing in history. They'd be taught they have no homeland and thus no place on earth. They'd be taught that they are wicked & evil from birth and have nothing to be proud of as Whites and should be ashamed of being White. They would be stripped of their knowledge of self and of course would be trying to figure out where they fit in where they belong. Your answer to that would be, little White beast you belong extinct or as our slave.

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I am only interested in the TRUTH. As a god fearing christian you would appreciate that wouldn't you?

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BTW - I never left. Decided to spread my wings a bit. realize that those characters are more than nutty at Davidski and other sites ES still has the best minds. Black or white...or in-between ..like Hindus

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Xy-YTPeople-Hater,

So you admit that if you had your way White children would be taught exactly what I stated you'd have them taught because you see it as truth?

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I am interested in teaching ALL children the truth.....regardless of color or ethnicity. I am a here to enlighten all peoples. Even delusional white people and their kids. I am here to help set the record straight.

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quote:
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I am interested in teaching ALL children the truth.....regardless of color or ethnicity. I am a here to enlighten all peoples. Even delusional white people and their kids. I am here to help set the record straight.

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Beautifully said...

This really should be the last post in the thread.

But of course lioness will soon come by with new lies, so I must address Doxies hypocrisy before the thread is completely ruined.

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Note how Albinos operate...
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Remember When Trump Said He Would Have A 'Plan To Defeat ISIS Within 30 Days'? Time's Up, No Plan. By Red Painter

This post appears in Defeat Isis In The First 30 Days, part of our ongoing series Broken Promises, a project to track the campaign promises of Donald Trump and if they hold true.


Trump, who scorned Obama's golf habits, outpacing him in rounds
By Kevin Liptak, CNN White House Producer Updated 1:27 PM ET, Mon April 10, 2017


APRIL 17, 2017
WASHINGTON — Vice President Mike Pence issued a fresh warning to North Korea on Monday not to test America’s resolve. But behind the threatening talk, the White House is taking a more calculated approach, giving the Chinese government time to show whether it is ready to use its influence to curb its erratic, nuclear-armed neighbor. The disparity between the Trump administration’s blunt public statements to Pyongyang and its growing reliance on Beijing has been put in sharp relief by Mr. Pence’s visit to South Korea, which included a stop at the demilitarized zone that divides the Korean Peninsula.

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Kim Jong-un taunts Donald Trump as North Korea publishes satellite images from missile test that flew 350 miles into SPACE. State newspaper publishes snaps that show Kim is close to developing ICBM. By Danny Collins .


Trump Slammed Michelle Obama For Not Covering Hair In Saudi Arabia.


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^Clearly, the Albino Rabble in their bottomless Ignorance, do not understand the concept or meaning of HYPOCRISY!

hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies

The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

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Xy-YTPeople-Hater,

You didn't answer my question. It only required a yes or no answer and then an explanation. Wanna try again my dear White people hating mortal enemy and enemy of all White people ?


Mike,

What about you my Whitey hating mortal enemy and enemy of all White people? You wanna answer? Is what I stated, what you would have White children/youth taught?

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quote:
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Note how Albinos operate...
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Clearly, the Albino Rabble in their bottomless Ignorance, do not understand the concept or meaning of HYPOCRISY!

hy·poc·ri·sy
The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:

Mike, Xy-YT-Hater,Mena7 if you and the rest of the White people hating, Black supremacist squad had your way. White children/youth would be taught that they are talentless, inferior, non-humans.

On the Negro's Place in Nature, by James Hunt
Journal of the Anthropological Society of London
Vol. 2 (1864).

This premature union of the
bones of the skull may give a clue to
much of the mental inferiority which is
seen in the Negro race. There can be
no doubt that in puberty a great change
takes place in relation to physical devel-
opment ; but in the Negro there appears
to be an arrested development of the
brain, exactly harmonizing with the phy-
sical formation. Young Negro children
are nearly as intelligent as European
children; but the older they grow the
less intelligent they become. They ex-
hibit, when young, an animal liveliness
for play and tricks, far surpassing the
European child. The infant ape's skull
resembles more the Negro's head than
the aged ape, and thus shows a striking
analogy in their craniological develop-
ment.


quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:

They would be taught that they have no history, no heritage, no identity. They would be taught that their ancestors built/accomplished nothing in history. They'd be taught they have no homeland and thus no place on earth. They'd be taught that they are wicked & evil from birth and have nothing to be proud of as Whites and should be ashamed of being White. They would be stripped of their knowledge of self and of course would be trying to figure out where they fit in where they belong. Your answer to that would be, little White beast you belong extinct or as our slave.

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The Origin of the Negro Race by Henry M. Stanley
The North American Review Vol. 170, No. 522 (May, 1900).

Down to the fifth century before Christ, Egypt was commonly
believed to belong to Asia ; but though since that period she has


THE ORIGIN OF THE NEGRO RACE. 657

been admitted to belong to Africa, because of her river and the
land formed by it, moderns as well as the ancients have persisted
in acting on the supposition that she is Asiatic. Before the later
Asiatics crowded into Egypt, there was, no doubt, an earlier race
which we distinguish by the term African, because we find com-
paratively little of that type in other continents; but it is clear
that, whatever proportion of it sought refuge in the interior of
Africa, enough individuals were left to make an indelible im-
pression on the newcomers, and form a separate race, which on
account of its peculiar character came to be known as Egyptian.
From the time when this new race founded the kingdom, formu-
lated its severe religion, and distinguished itself by its aloofness
from other peoples, there appears to have been a perpetual struggle
as to whether Asiatic or African blood should predominate ; and
ancient writers were as much puzzled as moderns are as to what
continent the old Egyptian race was originally derived from.

Leaving the primitive African out for the present, let me say
that we must go back to pre-Aryan times to find the ancestry of
those early Asiatics who, entering Egypt, originated the peculiar
Egyptian race. These people are commonly called Turanians, and
they have been variously described as "dusky, dark, black, black-
skinned, and their hair as varying from coarse, straight, black
hair," to "curly," "crinkly" and "woolly." The centre of this
race appears to have been in the neighborhood of Accad, where, it
has been found, a King Sargon reigned about 3800, B. C.

Sixteen hundred miles to the northeast there was developed
in process of time a different race altogether, of light complexion,
with blue or gray eyes, and "blood brown" and light hair. It was
called "Arya," which means the noble or ruling race. Finding
its habitat near the Hindoo Koosh too limited, it spread itself west-
ward over the Iranic plateau, and across the Tigris into the
Euphrates Valley.

At what early date the Turanians near Accad first felt the
pressure of the Aryan multitudes, history makes ito mention ; but
when the Aryans, still expanding, reached the Indus about 2000,
B. C, they found India peopled by a Turanian population. There-
fore, by inference we may assume that, if the Indian peninsula
from the Himalaya to the Deccan was already so well filled at
2000, B. C, Egypt, lying much nearer and smaller, must have
been occupied some thousands of years previous.

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Mike, please stop saying mean things about albinos

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Mike,

Come on now, how hard is it for you to answer my question? I'm waiting.

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quote:
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Mike,

Come on now, how hard is it for you to answer my question? I'm waiting.

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In all the time you have been here, I have never called you stupid.

But if you cannot glean your answer from my post above:

Then if the shoe fits, you might have to wear it.

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OK, you want to see the REAL shift in American wealth and power?

BERNIE MADOFF!

Here's the former Chairman of NASDAC.
As American as a slice of Apple Pie topped with a slice of cheddar cheese.
The Jew who wrote most of all the compliance laws for Wall street. The man who shaped the Wall street investment rules that fixed the American economy like las Vegas is fixed for the casinos.
For the wildly rich and bountiful American/Israeli Jews who have raped America for the last 100 years, life was wonderful, carefree and like heaven.
They had so much money they had ripped from America's poor and middle class, yet still they wanted more. So, they turned to the man who knew Wall Street inside and out, Bernie Madoff.
They willing turned to the Jew that all the nation's wealthy knew and turned over their $10, 50, 100, 500M dollar bank accounts to Madoff with the promise of double digit annual returns of their investments.
But Bernie, the Wall street genius wasn't investing his rich client's money. Instead, he used client B's money to pay Client A, and Client C's money to pay Client B. A one of a kind, world's richest ponzi scheme.

This was the turning point of America's most wealthy, Jews. This is the first time that one of their own, someone of the highest status, burned them like they have burned the nation.

It's alright for the Jews to steal from Negroes in the slums, and it's OK for Wall street to manipulate hundreds of thousands of Americans out of their real estate, but it's not OK for a Jew like Bernie Madoff to use his position and connections with the nation's richest Jews to setup a system to steal over $100B of their money.

None of the Jews who stole tens of billions of dollars from American homeowners saw a day in jail. None were prosecuted, and none were convicted.
President Obama even refused to authorize an investigation against them.
Yet, a jew, Madoff was tried, convicted and sentenced to 150 years in jail because he did the unthinkable. He broke the secret pact and stole from the gang of thieves.

Very Partial list of Modoff's guilty victim's

- Steven Spielberg (Net $3B Hollywood producer)
- Kevin Bacon
- Eric Roth
- Sandy Koufax
- Larry King
- Zsa Zsa Gabor
- Eliot Spitzer
- Norman Braman ($1.7B Berkshire Hathaway Board member)
- David Gottesman ($1.7B Art collector)
- Mort Zuckerman ( real estate billionaire)
- Alicia Koplowitz (Spain's richest woman)
- Fred Wilpon (owns New York METS)
- Leonard Feinstein - (co-founder, Bed Bath & Beyond)
- Elie Wiesel
- Sen. Frank Lautenberg
- Ira Rennert
- Stephen A. Fine
- JEHT Foundation. (Hundreds of millions invested)
- Arpad Busson ($270M invested)
-Jewish Federation of Greater Washington ($10M)
- Aozora Bank ($170M invested)
- Nomura ($302M invested)
- EIM Group ($200M invested)
- Robert Lap pin Foundation
- Carl and Ruth Shapiro ($145M invested)
- Royal Bank of Scotland (Invested $330M)
- Jeff Katzenberg (Dreamsworkd CEO)
- Gerald Breslauer (Steven Spielberg's financial advisor)
- Yeshiva University ($110M invested)
- North Shore-Long Island Jewish Health System
- SAR Academy (jewish school in Bronx)
- Swiss insurer Baloise
- Burt Ross (former Fort Lee Mayor)
- Tufts University (Invested $20M)
- Chais Family Foundation ($178M invested)

Note that the only people or groups who had revenue to attract Madoff were rich Jews who he claimed after being convicted, were easily sold on investi8ng because of their enormous greed.
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Scythian and Saka were not Kushana. Stop spreading nonsense .


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Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Kaniska had two capitals. The capital in Central Asia was Bergraam or Kupura in Afghanistan, while in India the capital was established at Muthura.

The Kushana/ Yuezhi were at this time in control of the Silk Road, which took Chinese goods to the West. It was also under the Kushana that Buddhism entered China. The Kushana ruled India for almost 200 years.

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They show the Black African or Sub-Saharan African/Dravidian types.

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King Kaniska of the Kushan



Same sculpture different picture


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Scythian Head
Kushan, 2nd century A.D.
Mathura, Uttar Pradesh
Spotted red Sand stone. 45 x 18 x 6 cms
Acc. No. G. 32

The Kushanas, known variously as Scythians or Yueh-chih and who ruled from Mathura, were of Central Asian origin probably from the western borders of China. Their rule of about three hundred years witnessed the emergence and flowering of sculptural art synthesizing indigenous and external traditions.

Although, the heads of the two Kushana kings of Vima Kadaphises and Kanishka are now lost, they probably must have worn such conical caps.

The large eyes, a subtle smile, projecting eyebrows, rounded counters of the face as seen in this head found at Mathura (near Agra) are undoubtedly different from the contemporaneous Jain and Buddhist sculptures. The conical hat is not native bat associated with the Scythians. A Single Strand of beads that decorates the central median and borders of the hat reflects the style prevalent in the period.

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In about 730 B.C, Colchis was overrun by the White Kurgan tribes called Cimmerians and Scythians.

The Chinese describe the Yuezhi [Kushans] thusly: The skin of the people there is reddish white. The Sakas ultimately established an Indo-Scythian kingdom in northern India.
The Yuezhi were a Caucasoid people, as indicated by the portraits of their kings on the coins they struck following their exodus to Transoxiana (2nd-1st century B.C.), some old place names in Gansu explainable in Tocharian languages, and especially the coins they struck in India as Kushans (1st-3rd century A.D.).
Also, the Caucasian mummies of Pazyryk, which were probably Scythian in origin, were found around 1,500 kilometers northwest of the Yuezhi and date to around the 3rd century B.C.


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Mindovermatter, Clyde is sometimes right that certain historical ethnic groups were founded by blacks

But we all Clyde often goes overboard (possible senility setting in) and attributes blackness even to white groups. Did you ever notice when he routinely puts up sculptures that are often small photos and if you look closely the noses are often broken off. When the nose is broken off it gives the impression of flatness so when you first look at it it can give the impression of a flat or typically "black" nose when it is nothing more than most of the original nose not even being on the statue anymore?


We have to teach Clyde proper afrocentric method so he can distinguish what is really black from what is faux-black


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Jewish cohesion is definitely unraveling.

Muslim Convert Tells Cops He Killed 2 ‘Neo-Nazi’ Friends Who ‘Disrespected’ His Faith

Former Getile Neo-Nazi converts to Islam and kills his two Jewish Neo-Nazi friends.

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Authorities say Arthurs then led investigators to his New Tampa apartment, where they found the bullet-riddled bodies of his roommates, 18-year-old Andrew Oneschuk and 22-year-old Jeremy Himmelman.

Police said Arthurs told them he shot his roommates because they’d been “disrespecting Arthurs’ Muslim faith” and that all three of them “had been friends with a common neo-Nazi belief until Arthurs converted.”

Devon Arthurs, 18, of Tampa, was apprehended Friday. He is accused of taking three hostages at a Tampa Palms smoke shop, according to a copy of the police report. After police talked Arthurs into surrendering, he made references to “Allah Mohammed” and said, “I had to do it. This wouldn’t have had to happen if your country didn’t bomb my country,” Tampa police reported. Arthurs is a U.S. citizen.

In addition to the victims’ bodies, investigators found bomb-making materials and white supremacist propaganda, according to federal documents obtained by The Tampa Bay Times. Those items were reportedly linked to a fourth roommate, identified as Brandon Russell, who is in the Army National Guard.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-convert-neo-nazi-roommates-slain-tampa_us_59234bafe4b094cdba56a250?7x&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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Mike,

What's the matter oh hater and enemy of all White people? You a little puss, ya coward can't answer a simple question? Sorry but I like straight forward answers to my questions.


Xy-YTpeople-Hater,

Same question to you too ohh hater & enemy of all White people. You a little puss, ya coward can't answer a simple question? Sorry but I like straight forward answers to my questions.

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