Typical post by a white person who doesn't know that for intelligent Black people, rap music is simply not music. Rhyming,slanging, and adding beats to music composed by other musicians doesn't amount to musical creativity and composition.
It shows the desperate situation of black people when a self-admitted pimps and drug dealers gang banger wannabes are made out be the spokesmen of black people and proponents of black culture.
For what its worth I don't know much about KRS One and I am as black as they come.
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Here is a snap from one of your ideas of Black Culture
Another snap of from a stellar example of Black Culture
You really don't think you can consider this to be a proper example of black culture and not be racist, do you?
quote: If I gotta slap a pussy-ass nigga,
I'ma make it look sexy
If I gotta go hard on a bitch,
I'ma make it look sexy
Do you ever consider the sad state of mind of an impressionable African American youth who might consider such a rap to be cool, edgy, street or any of those other terms white journalists who pimp dysfunctional black culture to white liberals like to use?
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Well, Haps just removed all doubt. He's a poser.
I remember KRS1 from Sound Of The Police 25 years ago KRS-One at one of his finest for suckahs who don't know.
I believe that if you're teaching history filled with straight-up facts, no mystery. Teach the student what needs to be taught. 'Cause black and white kids both take shots. When one doesn't know about the other one's culture. Ignorance swoops down like a vulture.
'Cause you don't know that you ain't just a janitor. No one told you about Benjamin Banneker, a brilliant black man that invented the almanac. Can't you see where KRS is coming at with Eli Whitney, Haile Selassie, Grand Bill Woods made the walkie-talkie.
Lewis Latterman improved on Edison. Charles Drew did a lot for medicine. Garrett Morgan made the traffic lights. Harriet Tubman freed the slaves at night. Madame CJ Walker made a straightenin' comb. But you won't know this if you weren't shown.
The point I'm gettin' at, it might be harsh. 'Cause we're just walkin' around brainwashed. So what I'm sayin' is not to diss a man. We need the 89 school system. One that caters to a black return, because you must learn.”
quote:Originally posted by A Habsburg Agenda: ^^^You might like this one even more, the latest from one of your favourite rappers. You do like Kendrick Lamar, don't you?
Here is a snap from one of your ideas of Black Culture
Another snap of from a stellar example of Black Culture
You really don't think you can consider this to be a proper example of black culture and not be racist, do you?
quote: If I gotta slap a pussy-ass nigga,
I'ma make it look sexy
If I gotta go hard on a bitch,
I'ma make it look sexy
Do you ever consider the sad state of mind of an impressionable African American youth who might consider such a rap to be cool, edgy, street or any of those other terms white journalists who pimp dysfunctional black culture to white liberals like to use?
You are off topic. The topic is KRS One
However Kendrick Lamar has made a lot of good music. It is interesting to read the reviews of this song and the video "Element" as many hardly question it, the lengths they go to ignore it. But I am very disappointed in it. This new video is making black people beating black people look "sexy" and top of that it attaches the hook of the song to calling women bitches and the ambiguous "go hard" on them. It is unfortunate this overtly violent display with not just Kendrick observing but participating in the violence and then the reviewers trying to imply it must be some kind of sophisticated social commentary. Is all rap the same? NO. I compare it to the African griots. It is a type of poetry. Some is good some is bad. This new song and video from Kendrick in my opinion is very bad. We need to rise above this.
I gave you a thoughtful song from KRS One, you ignored it and tried to flip the script, in your conservative style, trying to stereotype rap as all the same
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Who got the lyrics to Keep Clicking? It's supposed to have Steve Biko quotes in Xhosa.
The Rap culture is basically wrong or has been degraded beyond repair, no matter how many lyrics are made positive.
It gives Black youth a false idea of their place in society, a false idea of the place their youth culture has in society and how they should relate to it. It is a product of the unholy alliance between white Jewish liberals and their tribesmen in the music industry creating an identity for black youth and it sure as hell can't be for the benefit of black people.
If Lioness has a good memory she can dredge up the book written by the middle class mixed race African American who wrote of the adverse effect and the resulting underachievement hip hop culture had on black youth who were from well off, well educated middle class families.
Social commentary does not amount to guiding young blacks in a positive direction.
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You are off topic. I posted links to two 2017 songs and your are talking about another song created 30 years earlier
Further, an R & B song does not need to guide young blacks in a positive direction so a rap song doesn't have to either. Nevertheless the song I posted is very positive and not only social commentary
You can inform us of this other 2017 music that guides young blacks in a positive direction.
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The Rap culture is basically wrong or has been degraded beyond repair, no matter how many lyrics are made positive.
It gives Black youth a false idea of their place in society, a false idea of the place their youth culture has in society and how they should relate to it. It is a product of the unholy alliance between white Jewish liberals and their tribesmen in the music industry creating an identity for black youth and it sure as hell can't be for the benefit of black people.
If Lioness has a good memory she can dredge up the book written by the middle class mixed race African American who wrote of the adverse effect and the resulting underachievement hip hop culture had on black youth who were from well off, well educated middle class families.
Social commentary does not amount to guiding young blacks in a positive direction.
Many people don't understand the intent behind these songs.
It was not to support violence, but to attract those who like violence, to guide them to a higher level of thinking. And it did work, until NWA came out, destroying the cause.
The only way to get someone to listen to conscious rap is by first giving them something they think they can associate with, than slowly moving them from that negative point.
In the 9mm Goes Bang KRS One role-plays an individual. And tells a fictive story that relates to a certain section of the population (the mentally dead). Hence the album cover and title: "Criminal Minded".
[Intro] Boogie Down Productions will always get paid We'll take the wackest song and make it better Remember to let us into your skin Cause then you'll begin, to master Rhymin' rhymin' rhymin'
[Verse 1: KRS-One] Criminal minded, you've been blinded Looking for a style like mine you can't find it They are the audience, I am the lyricist Sometimes the suckers on the side gotta hear this Page, a rage, and I'm not in a cage Free as a bird to fly up out on stage Ain't here for no fronting just to say a little something You suckers don't like me cause you're all about nothing However, I'm really fascinating to the letter My all-around performance gets better and better My English grammar comes down like a hammer You need a style, I need to pull your file I don't beg favors, you're kissing other people's [ass] I write and produce myself just as fast Keep my hair like this, got no time for Jheri curls Attracting only women, got no time for little girls
[Bridge] Cause girls look so good but their brain is not ready I don't know I'd rather talk to a woman cause her mind is so steady So here we go
[Verse 2] I'm not a musical maniac or b-boy fanatic I simply made use of what was upstairs in the attic I've listened to these MC's back when I was a kid But I bust more shots than they ever did I mean this is not the best of KRS, it's just a section But how many times must I point you in the right direction You need protection when I'm on the mic Because my mouth is like a 9 millimeter windpipe You're a king, I'm a teacher You're a b-boy, I'm a scholar If this was a class, well it would go right under drama See kings lose crowns but teachers stay intelligent Talking big words on the mic but still irrelevant Especially when you're not college material Wake up every morning to your Lucky Charms cereal DJ Scott La Rock has a college degree Blastmaster KRS writes poetry I won't go deeper in the subject cause that gets me bored It's a shame to know some MC's on the mic are fraud Saying styles like this to create a diss But if you listen, who you dissing? I am a musician Rapping on the mic like this to me is fine Cause if I really want to battle I will put out a nine You can see that Scott La Rock and I are mentally binded In other words we're both Criminal Minded
[Verse 3] We're not promoting violence, we're just having some fun He's Scott La Rock, I'm KRS-One Never off-beat cause it don't make sense Grab the microphone, relaxed and not tense You waited, debated, and now you activated A musical genius that could not be duplicated See I have the formula for rocking the house If you cannot rock a party do not open your mouth It's that simple, no phony cosmetics for your pimple Take another look because the gear is not wrinkled The K, the R, the S, the O, the N, the E Say a rhyme for 87 not no 1983 Well versed, to rehearse, in my rhymes I might curse Originality is first but the suckers get worse Allow me to include I have a very stable mood Poetic education of a high altitude I'm not an MC, so listen, call me poet or musician A genius when it comes to making music with ambition I'm cool, collected with the rhyme I directed Don't wanna be elected as the king of a record Just respected by others as the man with the solution An artist of the 80's came and left his contribution On wax, relax, there's 24 tracks After years of rocking parties now I picked up the knack Because everything that flows from out my larynx Takes years of experience and bottles of Beck's I cannot seem to recollect the time I didn't have sex Is it real or is it Memorex? I'm living in a city known as New York State Sucker MC's gotta wait while I translate I hang with real live dreads with knowledge in their heads People with ambition and straight up musicians Although our lives have been so uprooted I haven't included, you can all get zooted So take each letter of the KRS-One Means Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone You look at me and laugh, but this is your class It's an all-out discussion of the suckers I be crushing So now you are awakened to the music I be making Never duplicated, and also highly cultivated Don't get frustrated cause nothing has been traded Only activated, it came out very complicated Not separated, from my DJ You see my voice is now faded I'll see you folks around the way
The Rap culture is basically wrong or has been degraded beyond repair, no matter how many lyrics are made positive.
It gives Black youth a false idea of their place in society, a false idea of the place their youth culture has in society and how they should relate to it. It is a product of the unholy alliance between white Jewish liberals and their tribesmen in the music industry creating an identity for black youth and it sure as hell can't be for the benefit of black people.
If Lioness has a good memory she can dredge up the book written by the middle class mixed race African American who wrote of the adverse effect and the resulting underachievement hip hop culture had on black youth who were from well off, well educated middle class families.
Social commentary does not amount to guiding young blacks in a positive direction.
There was a crack-cocaine epidemic in the African-American community.
In 2016 we get to know:
quote:Top adviser to Richard Nixon admitted that ‘War on Drugs’ was policy tool to go after anti-war protesters and ‘black people’
The Rev. Al Sharpton said Ehrlichman’s comments proved what black people had believed for decades.
“This is a frightening confirmation of what many of us have been saying for years. That this was a real attempt by government to demonize and criminalize a race of people,” Sharpton told the Daily News. “And when we would raise the questions over that targeting, we were accused of all kind of things, from harboring criminality to being un-American and trying to politicize a legitimate concern.”
{*40 seconds in: DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*}
[Hook:] Cocaine business controls America Ganja business controls America KRS-One come to start some hysteria Illegal business controls America
[KRS-One] One afternoon around eleven o'clock It was freezin cold, he was standing on the block Sellin cheeba, nick's and dimes Sayin a rhyme just to pass the time The cops passed by, but he stayed calm Cause the leather trench coat was keepin him warm But this time they walked by real slowly He thought to himself, "They look like they know me" They drove away, but he didn't stay He jumped in the cab and he paid his tab But guess who he saw when he hit the block It was the same cop car, the same two cops They jumped out quick, they pulled a gun They said, "Don't try to fight and don't try to run Cooperate and we will be your friend Non-cooperation will be your end" He jumped in the car, and while they rode They ran down the list of things he owed They said, "You owe us some money, you owe us some product Cause you could be right in the river tied up" He thought for a second and he said, "What is this? You want me to pay you to stay in business?" They said, "That's right, or you go to prison Cause nobody out there is really gonna listen To a hood," so he said, "Good! I'll pay you off for the whole neighborhood" Because
Cocaine business controls America Ganja business controls America KRS-One come to start some hysteria Illegal business controls America
{*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*}
[KRS-One] A guy named Jack, is sellin crack The community, doesn't want him back He sells at work, he sells in schools He's not stupid, the cops are the fools Cause everyone else seems to go to jail But when it comes to Jack, the cops just fail They can't arrest him, they cannot stop him Cause even in jail the bail unlocks him So here is the deal, and here is the facts If you ever wonder why they can't stop crack The police department, is like a crew It does whatever they want to do In society you have illegal and legal We need both, to make things equal So legal is tobacco, illegal is speed Legal is aspirin, illegal is weed Crack is illegal, cause they cannot stop ya But cocaine is legal if it's owned by a doctor Everything you do in private is illegal Everything's legal if the government can see you Don't get me wrong, America is great place to live But listen to the knowledge I give
Cocaine business controls America Ganja business controls America KRS-One come to start some hysteria Illegal business controls America
{*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Illegal business controls America {*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Illegal business controls America {*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Illegal business controls America {*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} KRS-One come to start some hysteria {*DJ scratches "What what what what, what what what what What can we get for 63 cents?"*}
Cocaine business controls America Ganja business controls America KRS-One come to start some hysteria Illegal business controls America
{*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Yeah, illegal business controls America {*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Yeah, KRS-One come to start some hysteria {*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Yeah, BDP takin over America {*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Ganja business controls America
{*DJ scratches "What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Cocaine, sensai Aspirin, coffee Morphine, sugar Tobacco, got to go
{*DJ scratches "What what what what, what can we get.."*} Illegal business controls America {*DJ scratches "What what, what can we get.."*} Yeahhhhh, ganja business controls America {*DJ scratches "What what what what what what What can we get for 63 cents?"*} Yeahhhhh, cocaine business controls America {*DJ scratches "What what what what.."*} Illegal business controls America
Social commentary does not amount to guiding young blacks in a positive direction]
You are off topic. I posted links to two 2017 songs and your are talking about another song created 30 years earlier
Further, an R & B song does not need to guide young blacks in a positive direction so a rap song doesn't have to either. Nevertheless the song I posted is very positive and not only social commentary
You can inform us of this other 2017 music that guides young blacks in a positive direction.
In fact KRS has not changed, both songs are of the same conscious realm. KRS is a thinker. What he says and does needs a philosophical approach.
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This is one guy I didn't expect this kind of video from, but you see what I am talking about.
Conscious rap may be fine, but the real issue is the place rap music and hiphop has in the social identity of black people, especially young blacks.
Too many blacks feel that rap and their music in general, is what gives them a presence in society, something that makes the rest of the world notice them, what is basically the contribution, their gift, their legacy to contemporary civilization.
We don't have science, we don't have business, we don't even own our own corner shops, but we have rap, hiphop and sportsmen so we are okay even if we may have serious shortcomings elsewhere.
What we really have here is really the white owned corporate media creating and shaping an identity for black people and using hip-hop artistes and sports men to create it. And smart black people don't want that.
Whatever conscious rap music is, if it has a white corporate influence in it, we can't do with them. We don't want them crafting a social identity and an image for us.
The content of this video tackles the extreme aspects of what Thomas Chatterton Williams writes about.
Here is a gem I discovered today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qku2WZ7aRYw apparently some people want whites to turn out in greater numbers to vote for Trump in the next election.
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