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Description: NIH Director's Wednesday Afternoon Lecture

Beginning in 2010, it became practical to sequence whole genomes from DNA extracted from ancient human boness, and to analyze the data to understand changes in biology over time. Since that timethen, the amount of ancient DNA data has increased at an extraordinary rate, with the number of samples with at least one-fold genome coverage being 5 five in 2013, 18 in 2014, and 116 in 2015. Dr. Reich will begin his lecture by describing how present-day Europeans derive from a fusion highly divergent ancestral populations as different from each other as are Europeans and East Asians. He will then summarize the history of modern humans in Europe over the approximately 45,000 years since they first arrived. He will next describe the spread of farming populations from the Near East over the last twelve thousands12,000 years. He will finally conclude by describing explaining how the analysis of ancient DNA has led to. some of the insights about human biological change over time.

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https://oir.nih.gov/wals/2016-2017/ancient-dna-new-science-human-past

Author: David Reich, D. Phil., Professor of G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfHGhWfxWoA

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2010 appears to have been an important year for geneticists. It was then that they developed the idea that African R1 carriers were mainly V88. This was a momentous time because at the same time they found the DNA of the ancient Europeans. It was after this finding that researchers and ISOGG started changing the terminology and nomenclature for V88 and its clades to attempt to make the ancient Europeans Indo-Europeans, eventhough the craniometrics illustrated they were Blacks not whites.

It amazes me that Eurocentric researchers can white Black people out of history even when the evidence tells a different story.

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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
2010 appears to have been an important year for geneticists. It was then that they developed the idea that African R1 carriers were mainly V88. This was a momentous time because at the same time they found the DNA of the ancient Europeans. It was after this finding that researchers and ISOGG started changing the terminology and nomenclature for V88 and its clades to attempt to make the ancient Europeans Indo-Europeans, eventhough the craniometrics illustrated they were Blacks not whites.

It amazes me that Eurocentric researchers can white Black people out of history even when the evidence tells a different story.

There's no relation because the Paleolithic European specimen's DNA was not R1
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Fu et al (2016) gives a fine discussion of the genetic history of Europe. It is interesting to note that the authors claim that the oldest R1b-M343 lineages, is 14 KYA Villabruna Man from Italy. The Villabruna man carried R1b1.

To disguise the African ancestry of the ancient Europeans Geno-Hamiticists change the name/number of African haplogroups to differentiate them from Europeans carrying the same haplogroup. R1b1 and Rlb1a were clades belonging to V88.

R1b1 and R1b1a do not change just because you give it a different number. Below is Cruciani et al (2010).
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Fu, Q., Posth, C., Hajdinjak, M., Petr, M., Mallick, S., Fernandes, D., … Reich, D. (2016). The genetic history of Ice Age Europe. Nature, 534(7606), 200–205. http://doi.org/10.1038/nature17993

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
2010 appears to have been an important year for geneticists. It was then that they developed the idea that African R1 carriers were mainly V88. This was a momentous time because at the same time they found the DNA of the ancient Europeans. It was after this finding that researchers and ISOGG started changing the terminology and nomenclature for V88 and its clades to attempt to make the ancient Europeans Indo-Europeans, eventhough the craniometrics illustrated they were Blacks not whites.

It amazes me that Eurocentric researchers can white Black people out of history even when the evidence tells a different story.

There's no relation because the Paleolithic European specimen's DNA was not R1
Are you sure you're an Africana expert? Are you even sure you are in any position at all to speak on science in general? I mean you don't support practically i.e. chemistry. So this brings us to the question, would you like to see more blacks in the practical field of chemistry? Yes or no?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
[qb] 2010 appears to have been an important year for geneticists. It was then that they developed the idea that African R1 carriers were mainly V88. This was a momentous time because at the same time they found the DNA of the ancient Europeans. It was after this finding that researchers and ISOGG started changing the terminology and nomenclature for V88 and its clades to attempt to make the ancient Europeans Indo-Europeans, eventhough the craniometrics illustrated they were Blacks not whites.

It amazes me that Eurocentric researchers can white Black people out of history even when the evidence tells a different story.

There's no relation because the Paleolithic European specimen's DNA was not R1

Are you sure you're an Africana expert?
No, I'm saying the Paleolithic European specimen's DNA was not R1

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Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
would you like to see more blacks in the practical field of chemistry?

yes


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Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


Author: David Reich, D. Phil., Professor of G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfHGhWfxWoA

Interesting video. watched some of it
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