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Meet Nike Okundaye; 64-year-old Nigerian Batik & Textile designer who has no formal education but lectures at Harvard university.

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http://www.nikeart.com

Here is an observation of Africa's colonial education system, which is essentially a Church to all intent and purposes:

"Not just because of problem of education in Nigeria, but because of the system of education handed down to Africa by white people, which doesn't allow us think outside the box.

We're trained to vilify anything we create, to consider our creation as inferior, to exalt white people. That's what the colonial masters told us to do. We were trained to believe the only thing we should consider valuable is what white people consider valuable.

The only reason we're even talking about this woman now is because white people thinks she's valuable. If white people didn't say so, we will all call her a useless illiterate.

Unfortunately, we're going to continue that way until we discard the colonial education handed down to us and create our own version of what education should be."

http://www.nairaland.com/4233079/photo-meet-mrs-nike-okundaye#63288050

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jantavanta, I do not agree with you at all.
African Arts, and history are present in the major Museums of Europe, in Italy, Germany, France, Britain, Belgium, Portugal, Spain, Russia, Ukraine, and in Eastern Europe.

In fact, much of African History and Arts, were excavated, and bought by Europeans, while Subsahran tribal kings, were busy kidnapping, slaving, and selling their own people, even after they made lots of money, they did not invested in the recovery of their past history.

Europeans even adopted many of African styles. One of them, was a the Nok people hair style, used by European nobility, aristocracy, and elite members.
Also African braids were very fashionable in Europe.
Africans problems is not entirely Europeans anymore. Take a look to China, and India. They became independent at the same time as Africans. However Africans still underdeveloped, uneducated and the poorest continent in the world....

Do you have an idea how many African genius are dead in the bottom of Mediterranean Sea? Why they are there? Corruption? Poverty? Unemployment? Intern Conflicts? Wars?

Colonial education wasn't bad then before.How many schools your tribal kings built for their people before European arrival? One or two Islamic schools? Only for the privileged ones? and few other rotten Islamic public schools were children were treated as wild animals? How many African villages, and cities had public schools before European arrival?

Now, I see lots of Africans and African descents including Afrocentrists claiming Abram Petrovich Gannibal, the great general, and his grandson Alexander Pushkin which became the father of Literature of Russia as their own...But, where they were educated? and whom help to educated them?

In fact, Abram Petrovich Gannibal was kidnapped or sold to the Turks by an African male. Image what he would became if he stayed in Africa? a tribal king's slave? or sold to American plantations?

Here is the history of Abram Petrovich Gannibal, by an African guy from Benin called Dieudonné Gnammankou.

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Of African Princes and Russian Poets
History of Abram Petrovich Gannibal told by an African native.
Article from New York Tmes.


LA FÈRE, FRANCE — On a gray, chilly autumn day, an unusual cluster gathered by the stern red-brick barracks of a former artillery academy here in northeastern France to attend the unveiling of a curious plaque.

Alongside the luminaries of the town and province were high representatives of Russia and Estonia, as well as the ambassador of Cameroon and the sultan of Logone-Birni (now in Cameroon), resplendent in the colorful garments of their African homeland.

The requisite speeches were delivered, and all shivered at attention as the local marching band wrestled gamely with the European Anthem (more familiar as Beethoven’s “Ode to Joy”). Then the sultan, Mahamat Bahat Marouf, was ushered forward to pull the veil off a modest plaque affixed to the wall. The legend, in French and Russian, declared that Abram Petrovich Gannibal (Hanibal in French), born in Logone-Birni in 1696 and deceased in Russia in 1781, chief military engineer and general-in-chief of the Imperial Russian Army, was a graduate of the royal artillery academy of La Fère.

It also noted that he was the great-grandfather of Russia’s greatest poet, Alexander Pushkin.

In Russia, it is common knowledge that Pushkin was descended from an African who was raised to high rank by Czar Peter the Great. Pushkin’s African ancestry was evident in his appearance, and the poet was proud of the heritage, using Gannibal as the model for an unfinished novel known in English as “The Negro of Peter the Great.”

But it is only in recent years that Gannibal, and Pushkin, have become sources of pride for Cameroon. The main reason for that is the research done by an African historian who pored over Russian, French and African sources to conclude that Gannibal most likely began life as the son of a chief in the ancient sultanate of Logone-Birni. Indeed, it was the findings of the historian, Dieudonné Gnammankou, himself from Benin, that led to the little celebration in La Fère.
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Gannibal’s story is remarkable by any historical yardstick. Kidnapped at the age of 7, he was presented as tribute to the Ottoman sultan in Constantinople. There he was somehow acquired by the Russian ambassador (Count Peter A. Tolstoy, himself the great-grandfather of another celebrated Russian man of letters, one Leo) and sent as a gift to Czar Peter I, subsequently emperor and “the Great.”

Never one to waste imported talent, the modernizing czar became the young African’s mentor and godfather (whence the patronymic “Petrovich” — and, for a while, the surname “Petrov,” both derived from “Peter”) and chose for him a military career.

On a trip to Europe in 1716, Peter left his 20-year-old ward behind in Paris to be educated in military science, and in 1720 Gannibal was enrolled in King Louis XV’s just-opened artillery academy at La Fère (it was closed in the 1990s). Gannibal fought with the French against Spain, and it was in France that he took a storied African military name, that of the Carthaginian general Hannibal, for his own.

Gannibal returned to Russia an expert on fortifications. He weathered the intrigues that followed Peter’s death (with a stint in Siberia) and at his death at the ripe old age of 85 was a general, governor and landowner, known to his admiring peers as “the black lord” and possessed of a coat of arms he designed himself, blazoned with an African elephant. He had 11 children, one of whom was Pushkin’s maternal grandfather.

Gannibal’s roots in Africa, however, long remained vague. Russian biographers decided early on that he was Ethiopian, though the only known fact was that he himself wrote in a letter to Empress Elizabeth, Peter the Great’s daughter, that he was from the town of “Lagon.” Vladimir Nabokov, conducting research for his definitive translation of Pushkin’s “Eugene Onegin,” was the first to cast serious doubt on the Ethiopian angle. But it was Mr. Gnammankou who first made a strong case in 1995 that “Lagon” was Logone, the capital of the ancient Kotoko kingdom of Logone-Birni on the southern side of Lake Chad, now located in northern Cameroon.

Mr. Gnammankou’s thesis caused something of a stir in Russia, where Pushkin has the status of a god. Roots in black Africa, Mr. Gnammankou suspects, seemed less acceptable than roots in the ancient Christian kingdom of Ethiopia. Nonetheless, his book on Gannibal was translated into Russian in 1999 and was judged the best book on Pushkin that year at the Moscow Book Fair. In 2000, a documentary about Gannibal shown on Russian television included scenes shot in Logone, as well as an interview with Mr. Gnammankou.

In Logone-Birni, the discovery of a tie to one of the world’s great poets was a sensation. Sultan Mahamat may, in fact, be a distant relative of Gannibal. The sultan claims to be the 47th in his line, and Mr. Gnammankou believes that Gannibal was most likely the son of the local ruler. He believes the boy was kidnapped in 1703 by a neighboring chief to be given as tribute to the newly enthroned sultan in Constantinople. There, the boy was converted to Islam as Ibrahim, which became Abraham, or Abram, when Czar Peter had him baptized in the Russian Orthodox faith.

The ceremony at La Fère was thus something of a personal triumph for Gnammankou, who was the main speaker at a subsequent symposium — and whose wife, Joëlle Esso, a professional singer, entertained the gathering with rousing songs she wrote about Gannibal and Pushkin (“Le czar le rappelle en Russie/ Hannibal n’en a pas très envie ...”).

The fact that an African could rise to high rank in the Russian and French royal service in the 18th century figured prominently in the speeches of the day. For Gannibal, Gnammankou said, Russia became “his land of liberty, which gave him the means of fulfilling his talents.” In return, Russia gained its greatest poet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/13/opinion/13iht-edschmemann.html

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In fact, much of African History and Arts, were excavated, and bought by Europeans, while Subsahran tribal kings, were busy kidnapping, slaving, and selling their own people, even after they made lots of money, they did not invested in the recovery of their past history."

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You have no proof of that, so that is to be regarded as conjecture, and for the final time, skin color does not denote who one's people are when such a notion did not exist at that time. Heck, "whiteness" didn't even exist until the 17th century. Enough with the nonsense.

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Really? So...tell me...When the first archeological excavation was done in Africa? When the first Art Museum was constructed in the Subsahara region? And who organized and paid for the first excavations?

Is that true, that Africans from Congo and Subsaran region have to go to Belgium to know more about their own ancient history? lol

All your kings were good on, was making wars, slavered their own people, sell their own people, trade their people for cheap glass beads made in Venice-Italy, Rum and other European goods, while seating around in their fatty big butts, surrounded by dozen of wives and hundred of offsprings, and slaves.

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Linda Fahr, Thanks for your update on Gannibal's roots in Cameroon.

But The school, today remains the greatest colonising force in Africa. You ask which schools existed? The Schools in Europe were introduced by Moors spreading African Knowledge in Arabic language.

Education is supposed to empower one to relate with none's immediate environment. But when that education is all about praising everything imported and European as best, it is non-education. It is advancement of underdevelopment, it is mental slavery.

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The schools established by colonial masters were designed to ancestrally disconnect Africans and weld them to the process of natural-resource transfer in order to build the infrastructure of europe, while Africa remained neglected.

Science was taught without practice. There was no scientific-industrial environment. All inventors were falsely taught to be White People. Africans were taught that to advance technologically, they had to have a God in the White Man's image and become self-alienated.

That is how it became easy to pack away natural resources while telling Africans to gaze at the skies and seek a Heaven of many mansions in a life after death.

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jantavanta

In fact, the only people in colonized Africa that had better high education, were African elites - families of Kings, Queens and relatives. This started before Africa was colonized. As long their family were educated was fine with them. And, after they completed their education in Europe they went back to Africa, they concentrated in in built their own fortunes, controlling their people with austerity and violence, while their people was dying of hungry.

African priests had their own writing system Nsibidi, before arab arrival, but, they only taught Nsibidi to their own priests and member of Royal families. Why they never built public schools to taught Nsibidi? because educate their people never was a priority. Africans Monarchs and Priesthood Elite, thought only them had the rights to education.

You must understand, that is part of African culture to only educate their elites. Don't forget that Black and White nobility slavered Europeans until 1800s, until the white people revolted against them.

Now... I have the knowledge of Mali's science achievements in Astronomy, and literature. But, Mali was already in decline by the time Europeans arrived. And the Black Berbers of North Africa, and soldiers of Niger Islamic kingdoms which you call Black Moors, in Spain and Portugal, in fact, married into Christian Visigoth royal family from Portugal, Spain, France, and Britain forming a segment what we know as the Black Nobility during high middle ages to Medieval period. In Europe, black queens was elevated to Saints. You can see their images of Black Madonna in Spain, Portugal, France and Germany Cathedrals and Churches.

In accordance to Medieval history written in Spain and Portugal, the Black Berbers, married into white Aristocracy because they were racially discriminate by white Syrian Arabs, from Umayyad Caliphate.

They didn't go back to Africa, to help their people. In fact, they were profiting from African slave trade, while living in their European castles. They also profited during colonialism, because the natural resources extracted in Africa, and their American colonies went to their European kingdoms. In fact,the mother of Brazilian Emperor D. Pedro I, was a Black Moor descendant. He was Mulatto, and as well the grandmother of King Leopold of Belgium, the butcher of Congo.

Not all inventions and innovations were developed by Black Moors. In fact, public illumination in Europe was introduced by white and brown Arabs after invasion of Afghanistan, from where they brought the idea. Public Universities, in fact, was White and brown Arabs that introduced in Europe after they visited India, and saw Nalanda's University lecture halls, laboratories, libraries and an observatory. If the idea of built Universities was African, why they never built University or School before the Arabs arrival?

I am not religious, and I do not have any admiration for African Voodoo religion either, which still sacrificing animals and humans in their rituals, beside, dishonestly profiting by making and selling potions, with the promise to destroy, cure, kill people and make people rich.

When I was in Africa, I saw in their markets for sale, a variety of animal parts, including monkeys, and bones, to make potions, and to make medications. They also was selling mud figurines, which they told me, had divine powers. The government don't do anything about, because is part of their religious culture and conveniently cheap for African governments to let their people living in ignorance than offered them proper medications.

Do you think is time for African governments better educate their peoples, and end those religious superstitions?

Is that primitive African religion beliefs and practices Europeans try to replaced with Christianity? Or you prefer Islamic pedophile laws, which adult males, can marry a 8 years old female child, as happen in Saudi Arabia? or have 4 wives? or public beheading, public hands amputation, stoned to death, as punishment law practices in Islamic countries?

Oh..please...give a break...you can do better than that...


Wishing you a Happy New Year celebrations ...

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Jantavanta is right the European colonialists created school in Africa to brainwashed the African people to hate themselves and admire the Europeans. The goal of European colonial school in Africa is to facilitate Europeans exploitation of Africa wealth.

I am agreeing with Linda Fahr that education in post colonial Africa was reserved to the African elite, the royal families, nobility and priesthood. The African masses received no education or a minimum of education. the concept of secret society, mystery system or mystery school, secret education started in Ancient Egypt and is practiced all over Africa. Today the majority of African doesnt know about World Afrocentric history that we can learn about in Egyptsearch Forum, Real History World Wide, BeforeBC.de and Rasta Live Wire but a few member
of the African elite knows about it.

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No nena7, it is not true.

Robert Mugabe, was educated in white Christian missionary school and he didn't learn to love white Jesus Christ, white people, or was brain washed. In fact, Mugabe is the most well educated politician in all African Continent.
All Africans revolutionaries learn how to write and read in white Christian schools in Africa.

In fact, reading a few chapters of a white American Christian priest missionary book, which he wrote after stayed in Africa for few years, paying for his own expenses, he wrote: African children have higher IQ than White children. An African child of 5 years old, has the IQ of 12 years old white child. He also described how intelligent and clean were African males. How they brushed their teeth with vegetable fibers.

African Americans slave descendants are majority Christian, and they don't love white people that is not nice to them.

Now, I am posting few videos, showing my African slave descendants culture. That's the culture I grew up with. We grew up Christians, but, we never forget our African culture in the colonies were born. This is my culture in South America.

This is our Martial Arts, which was developed by African slaves, to protected themselves from slave owners, and slave owners employees, which tortured and killed many of our people in Brazilian plantations. It is called "CAPOEIRA" MARTIAL ARTS.
By the way...it is my neighborhood in Rio de Janeiro, called Copacabana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APlxSpTZVPI

Below, is our Drum music, which my slave ancestors brought from Africa. This is also my culture. In Brazil it is called "Samba de Partido Alto". By listen this music, you will figure out, from which region in Africa, my African slaves ancestors come from.

Os 3 Ripas !! Camisa Verde e Branco - Felipe, Sergio e Fernando !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HiiVPb37EE

And here, is my favorite African Drums music. I love African culture. My hope is one day, African people will be free of wars, hunger, and analphabetism, to release all their creativity and potential in all fields, including sciences.

African Drum Music by M De Maik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXV39pybgJU


kassa dibon casamance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WgHAmjj_Y4


By the way...I posting this videos for jantavanta to watch...and of course, anyone...

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