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Yeah, White superiority. Of course, There isnt auch a Thing as black superiority. [Eek!]

Muslim Author, Al-Jahiz from the 9th century in His Work "the superiority of Blacks over whites"
“*Therefore, if the Arabs are ****ruddy****, then they belong to the Byzantines (Rum), Slaves (Saqaliba), Persians and Khurasanis. But if they belong to the dark-skinned peoples, then they are a sub-category of our stock. So they are called medium-complexioned and brownish-black (sumr sud) when they are classified with us, as the Arabs use the masculine gender to refer to a group consisting of females and males.”

Furthermore from Lisan al-Arab:
“ And the Arabs used to say about the non-Arabs with whom white skin was characteristic, such as the Romans, Persians, and their neighbors: ‘They are red-skinned (*al-hamra’*)…”* al-hamra’* means the Persians and Romans…And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves"

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
Yeah, White superiority. Of course, There isnt auch a Thing as black superiority. [Eek!]

Muslim Author, Al-Jahiz from the 9th century in His Work "the superiority of Blacks over whites"
“*Therefore, if the Arabs are ****ruddy****, then they belong to the Byzantines (Rum), Slaves (Saqaliba), Persians and Khurasanis. But if they belong to the dark-skinned peoples, then they are a sub-category of our stock. So they are called medium-complexioned and brownish-black (sumr sud) when they are classified with us, as the Arabs use the masculine gender to refer to a group consisting of females and males.”

Of course your endless dumb mind dribble will continue posting things you barely understand or even have studied.

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The Hellenistically influenced fresco of an Arabian King from Qaryat Al-Faw


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Historical Look at Saudi Arabia

https://www.aramcoexpats.com/photos/historical-look-at-saudi-arabia-1940s-part-1/


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قالوا و كان واد عبد المصلب اعشرة السادة دلما ضخما نظر اليهم علمر بن الطفيل يطوفون كانهم جمال جون فقال؛ بهولأْ تمنع السدانه و كان عبد الله بن عباس ادام صحما ولد اب طالب اشرف الخلق و هم سود و ادم و دلم


--Al-Jahiz important note in his Fakhr al-Sudan ala al-biyadan


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there are black tribes among the Arabs, such as the Banu Sulaim bin Mansur, and that all the peoples settled in the Harra, besides the Banu Sulaim are black.
--Al-Jahiz (776-869): Al-Fakhar al-Sudan
min al-Abyadh (Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites)


http://www.saudicaves.com/lava/harra.jpg

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
Yeah, White superiority. Of course, There isnt auch a Thing as black superiority. [Eek!]

Muslim Author, Al-Jahiz from the 9th century in His Work "the superiority of Blacks over whites"
“*Therefore, if the Arabs are ****ruddy****, then they belong to the Byzantines (Rum), Slaves (Saqaliba), Persians and Khurasanis. But if they belong to the dark-skinned peoples, then they are a sub-category of our stock. So they are called medium-complexioned and brownish-black (sumr sud) when they are classified with us, as the Arabs use the masculine gender to refer to a group consisting of females and males.”

Furthermore from Lisan al-Arab:
“ And the Arabs used to say about the non-Arabs with whom white skin was characteristic, such as the Romans, Persians, and their neighbors: ‘They are red-skinned (*al-hamra’*)…”* al-hamra’* means the Persians and Romans…And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves"

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"And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves"

Go read basic history first, before you come here poppin' crap.


A Mamluk Manuscript on Horsemanship

http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/asian-and-african/qatar/


Turk & Mongol Rule (930 - 1534)

End of Baghdad Glory and Break Down of Urban Life.


Mongol and Turkic Impact on Iraq

Arab-Muslim conquests of Iraq in the 7th century brought a new order and culture to Iraq, which was preserved during the Seljuk Turk era. Even though the Mongols converted to Islam, they largely destroyed the order and stability of Western Asia, Iraq included. Cities and institutions were decimated, and populations reduced in brutal fashion. Baghdad was a shining beacon for the Muslim world for 500 years before the Mongol invasions. After being almost completely demolished, it remained a dilapidated outpost throughout the duration of Mongol Rule. The Mongol era in particular served as a dark ages of sorts for the Middle East, as architectural and academic prowess came to a halt. The effect proved to be long term and devastating, as Iraq would never fully recover. It remained a disorderly province of the Ottoman Empire for four centuries, enabling the British to take control after WWI. Even after shedding British rule in 1958, Iraq would remain vulnerable to instability and repressive, authoritarian rule. The Mongols and Turks had little genetic impact on Iraqis, suggesting minimal intermixing of the ruling class with the general population.


http://www.worldology.com/Iraq/turk_mongol_rule.htm

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Ottoman Empire in Iraq (1534 - 1917)
Four Centuries of Instability in Iraq Under Ottoman Turk Rule.


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http://www.worldology.com/Iraq/ottoman_empire.htm


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there are black tribes among the Arabs, such as the Banu Sulaim bin Mansur, and that all the peoples settled in the Harra, besides the Banu Sulaim are black.
--Al-Jahiz (776-869): Al-Fakhar al-Sudan
min al-Abyadh (Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites)

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
quote:
Of course you end your endless dumb mind dribble will continue posting things you barely understand or even have studied
Look whos talking. The Immigrant/refugees without education!

More mindless babbles. Hilarious! It is who's not whos you jackass!

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Originally posted by Nevermore:
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Of course you end your endless dumb mind dribble will continue posting things you barely understand or even have studied
Look whos talking. The Immigrant/refugees without education!
I thought greeks, Romans, persians were black [Confused]
Lool

What you think is insignificant. It produces nothing relevant anyway.

You are confused over your own thinking process. Now ain't that something? Clinically it can be described as suffering from schizophrenia symptoms.


If you had actually comprehension skills, you would have grasped that Romans were cosmopolitan, thus had African in their society.

Saint Maurice

Artist: Lucas Cranach the Elder and Workshop (German, Kronach 1472–1553 Weimar)
Date: ca. 1520–25


Originally the wing of an altarpiece, this panel represents Maurice, the Roman legion commander martyred for refusing to slaughter Christians. It was likely commissioned by Cardinal Albrecht of Brandenburg (1490–1545), the most powerful prelate in the Holy Roman Empire, who established the collegiate church at Halle as a showplace for his art patronage and his collection of over 8,200 relics. Cranach’s painting reproduces one of the church’s treasures, a life-size reliquary statue of Saint Maurice in a gold-trimmed suit of silver armor. The collar of the Golden Fleece and the imperial eagle on the banner are references to the reigning emperor, Charles V.


https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/2006.469/


https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2015/cranach-saint-maurice

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
Yeah, White superiority. Of course, There isnt auch a Thing as black superiority. [Eek!]


There was not push for blacks to seek achievement with no one else until white supremacy. Nor do any of these black supremacists have any institutional pull.
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ISH GEBOR
quote:
Turk & Mongol Rule (930 - 1534)

End of Baghdad Glory and Break Down of Urban Life.

Are you a Troll???
I quote a guy from the 9th(!!!!) Century, and you are presenting Seljuks and mongols who arrived later?
Again HILARIOUS [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
This proves you got no education, as you are Not able to follow three liners.

ISH GEBOR
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Hilarious! It is who's not whos you jackass
Btw. English is not my First language and and im typing from a Phone right now.
But nice you speak a relevant language, instead of your irrelevant africa tongue.

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quote:
Originally posted by Oshun:
quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
Yeah, White superiority. Of course, There isnt auch a Thing as black superiority. [Eek!]


There was not push for blacks to seek achievement with no one else until white supremacy. Nor do any of these black supremacists have any institutional pull.
There is not such thing as "black supremacy". They etymology doesn't support it.


DOMINATION.


Definition of domination
1 : supremacy or preeminence over another
2 : exercise of mastery or ruling power
3 : exercise of preponderant, governing, or controlling influence
4 plural : dominion 3

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/domination

domination (n.) Look up domination at Dictionary.com
late 14c., "rule, control," from Old French dominacion (12c.) "domination, rule, power," from Latin dominationem (nominative dominatio), noun of action from past participle stem of dominari "to rule, have dominion over," from dominus "lord, master," literally "master of the house," from domus "home" (see domestic) + -nus, suffix denoting ownership or relation. Sexual sense by 1961.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=domination


Origin of white supremacy

1865-70, Americanism

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/white-supremacy

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
quote:
Turk & Mongol Rule (930 - 1534)

End of Baghdad Glory and Break Down of Urban Life.

Are you a Troll???
I quote a guy from the 9th(!!!!) Century, and you are presenting Seljuks and mongols who arrived later?
Again HILARIOUS [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Nope, actually it's you who is the troll. As you stated you quoted a guy from the 9th century. Turk & Mongol Rule "930" . Can you count?


SELJUK TURKS

  • Seljuks and Early Turkish States
  • Turkish Tribes in the Middle Ages
  • Creation of the Seljuk Empire In Iran and Iraq
  • Seljuk Rule in Iran and Iraq
  • Seljuk Turks in Central Asia


http://factsanddetails.com/asian/cat65/sub424/entry-5258.html


This is the source from where the original quote comes. Dr. Wesley Muhammad. And he cites sources by Tariq Berry etc.

Bilad Al-Sudan: Islam, Africa and Afrocentricity

http://www.drwesleymuhammad.info


http://www.saudicaves.com/lava/harra.jpg


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Muslim Arabs Conquer Iraq from Persian Sassanid Empire (633 - 636): Islam proved to be a powerful unifying force, enabling the previously fragmented Arab tribes to defeat the highly-feared Persian army. The Arab invasion began after the death of Muhammad, led by his successor, Abu Bakr (first Caliph - Muslim Emperor).

http://www.worldology.com/Iraq/arab_muslim_caliphate.htm


Your babbles are hilarious and insignificant.


Have a nice day.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
ISH GEBOR

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Hilarious! It is who's not whos you jackass
Btw. English is not my First language and and im typing from a Phone right now.
But nice you speak a relevant language, instead of your irrelevant africa tongue.

Duh, I could tell from your retarded posts. Btw English isn't my first language either.

Have a nice day.

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quote:

Originally posted by Nevermore:

Are you a Troll???
I quote a guy from the 9th(!!!!) Century, and you are presenting Seljuks and mongols who arrived later?
Again HILARIOUS [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


Originally posted by Ish Gebor:

Nope, actually it's you who is the troll. As you stated you quoted a guy from the 9th century. Turk & Mongol Rule "930" . Can you count?

Ahahhhaaa ahaaahhaaa ahhaaaa [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

ISH GEBOR YOU ARE A FREAK!!!!! [Big Grin]

930 AD IS the 10th Century !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahahhhaaa ahhahahaaahhaa YOU UNEDUCATED REFUGEE !!!!!!!

PLEASE find some 6 year old Kid to teach you how to count!!! Loooooooooool

Where did you go to school,if you did???
Please tell me, i wanna visit its Homepage [Big Grin]

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And now this thread is quickly kicking the bucket..
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Nevermore, stop the name calling in this thread

Anybody else as well

Lioness, moderator

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OK, I apologize.
We are individuals with different opinions. But thats ok.
No need to being impolite.(Although i didnt start the name calling. Go through the comments)
Anyway, Im sorry.
But i also have to defend the lioness.
Why should non-black people not be allowed to be moderators? This is ridiculous.
All the best!

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
OK, I apologie.
We are individuals with different opinions. But thats ok.
No need to being impolite.(Although i didnt start the name calling. Go through the comments)
Anyway, Im sorry.
But i also have to defend the lioness.
Why should non-black people not be allowed to be moderators? This is ridiculous.
All the best!

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It's not respectable argumentation to represent a whole continent by it most run down slums, that is weak argumentation
and you are using racial stereotypes

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quote:
It's not respectable argumentation to represent a whole continent by it most run down slums, that is weak argumentation
You are right. I apologize. I just wanted to countetact Ish Gebor's name calling (Jackass, stupid, dumb,...)
But I did it the wrong way. Of course africa is a beautiful continent as some relatives and friends of mine confirmed who have been visiting it.

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[commented deleted.

you can discuss Black history as much as you want but if you do it and insult me or make blanket statements about groups you will be banned
-lioness

[ 14. April 2018, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: the lioness, ]

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quote:
Originally posted by ELIMU:
Because this is a Ptolemaic greek mummy passed off as dynastic Egyptian of the Rammesside era. I am 100% certain that if a unbiased DNA testing company conducts a DNA on this mummy it will be found with Greek DNA.

How can you be so certain after the armana mummies and their ancestry tests?
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy

Wikipedia, black supremacy


Supremacy means superiority so the al-Jahiz qualifies
But it's more of a modern concept
The Nation of Islam is a Black supremacist group
They say the Black Man is God and the white man is the devil, that is Black supremacy

I already posted the etymology of the word Supremacy. You try to change the narrative of the origin of the word. The Nation of Islam is not a "supremacist group". Where do to dominated and impose their domination upon other people? What you post is mindless mind dribble.

What do they claim that makes them "supremacist"? You don't understand the subjects you try to talk about, and that is a problem!


Whites claim to be "god", but you have no problems with that? And yes "…" that too!

Whites have done extremely wicked things to black America throughout all of Americas history, but you see no problems therein!
Because of these things black America is in a state of decay, so-called "black American woman", with a so-called degree in social science. But black people should not get angry over these things and call out their EVILS, blacks need to swallow it and shut up about it, right?


What were the 'black codes'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAUXdd-DAh0


1724 Christian Black Codes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCf_8UJ5oRs


The Updated Black Codes/ The New Reconstruction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHPMT0ZJhq8

Isabel Wilkerson, journalist and author of "The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration," speaks at Yale as a Poynter Fellow in Journalism. The event was co-sponsored by the Department of African American Studies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFUBPAZzqk


Read The Color Of Law, and zip-your-lip. You are not intelligent enough to carry the weight of this conversation.



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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
OK, I apologize.
We are individuals with different opinions. But thats ok.
No need to being impolite.(Although i didnt start the name calling. Go through the comments)
Anyway, Im sorry.
But i also have to defend the lioness.
Why should non-black people not be allowed to be moderators? This is ridiculous.
All the best!

Opinions? This one is laughable. You are outright RACIST, and I dare to say even FASCIST since you like to make fun of starving people and underprivileged people by systemic racism.


You've exposed the mindset of how a white supremacist reasons. You're an open book and easy to read.

The more you post the crazier (dumber) it gets.


quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
quote:

Originally posted by Nevermore:

Are you a Troll???
I quote a guy from the 9th(!!!!) Century, and you are presenting Seljuks and mongols who arrived later?
Again HILARIOUS [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


Originally posted by Ish Gebor:

Nope, actually it's you who is the troll. As you stated you quoted a guy from the 9th century. Turk & Mongol Rule "930" . Can you count?

Ahahhhaaa ahaaahhaaa ahhaaaa [Big Grin]

ISH GEBOR YOU ARE A FREAK!!!!! [Big Grin]

930 AD IS the 10th Century !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahahhhaaa ahhahahaaahhaa YOU UNEDUCATED REFUGEE !!!!!!!

PLEASE find some 6 year old Kid to teach you how to count!!! Loooooooooool

Where did you go to school,if you did???
Please tell me, i wanna visit its Homepage [Big Grin]

It's about the happenings during that time range itself, not about the "actual" century description given.


Of course you skipped this part, which I probably should have posted first for you, since you can't comprehend the subject as a whole:

quote:
Muslim Arabs Conquer Iraq from Persian Sassanid Empire (633 - 636): Islam proved to be a powerful unifying force, enabling the previously fragmented Arab tribes to defeat the highly-feared Persian army. The Arab invasion began after the death of Muhammad, led by his successor, Abu Bakr (first Caliph - Muslim Emperor).

http://www.worldology.com/Iraq/arab_muslim_caliphate.htm


I doubt you even understand AL Jahiz as a whole?


--A collection of stories about the greedy. Humorous and satirical, it is the best example of al-Jāḥiẓ' prose style. Al-Jāḥiẓ ridicules schoolmasters, beggars, singers and scribes for their greedy behavior.


quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
ISH GEBOR
But nice you speak a relevant language, instead of your irrelevant africa tongue.

[Big Grin] [Roll Eyes]

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—Chris Ehret


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Y-chromosome haplogroup tree

The Y-chromosome haplogroup tree has been constructed manually following YCC 2008 nomenclature20 with some modifications.35 The tree (Supplementary Figure S1) contains the E haplogroups of Eritrean populations from this study and those reported in the literature.22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34 Genotyping results for E-V13, E-V12, E-V22 and E-V32 reported for Eritrean samples and elsewhere23, 27 were retracted to E-M78 haplogroup level. All the analyses in this study were done at the same resolution using the following 17 bi-allelic markers: E-M96, E-M33, E-P2, E-M2, E-M58, E-M191, E-M154, E-M329, E-M215, E-M35, E-M78, E-M81, E-M123, E-M34, E-V6, E-V16/E-M281 and E-M75.

[...]

Interestingly, this ancestral cluster includes populations like Fulani who has previously shown to display Eastern African ancestry, common history with the Hausa who are the furthest Afro-Asiatic speakers to the west in the Sahel, with a large effective size and complex genetic background. 23 The Fulani who currently speak a language classified as Niger-Kordofanian may have lost their original tongue to as sociated sedentary group similar to other cattle herders in Africa a common tendency among pastoralists. Clearly cultural trends exemplified by populations, like Hausa or Massalit, the latter who have neither strong tradition in agriculture nor animal husbandry, were established subsequent to the initial differentiation of haplogroup E. For example, the early clusters within the network also include Nilo-Saharan speakers like Kunama of Eritrea and Nilotic of Sudan who are ardent nomadic pastoralists but speak a language of non-Afro-Asiatic background the predominant linguistic family within the macrohaplogroup.

[...]

The Sahel, which extends between the Atlantic coast of Africa and the Red Sea plateau, represents one of the least sampled areas and populations in the domain of human genetics. The position of Eritrea adjacent to the Red Sea coast provides opportunities for insights regarding human migrations within and beyond the African landscape.

--Eyoab I Gebremeskel1,2 and Muntaser E Ibrahim1

European Journal of Human Genetics (2014) 22, 1387–1392; doi:10.1038/ejhg.2014.41; published online 26 March 2014

Y-chromosome E haplogroups: their distribution and implication to the origin of Afro-Asiatic languages and pastoralism
WEJHGOpen

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I'm not learning anything from Nevermore.

If one of us (Akachi for instance) made such
posts against Europe and European people the
Mod would edit delete or threaten ban. But it's
cool for this hater to hate and dis Africa(ns).
SMH

Last year a nordheimer murdered an Afram in
Times Square with a sword in broad daylight.
Fueled by Othello hatred he intended to murder
many black men but he murdered a 66 year old
scrounging for bottles and cans (coward).

This year the NYC legal system wants to
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quote:
It's about the happenings during that time range itself, not about the "actual" century description given.
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] Nope. Since you wrote:

quote:
Nope, actually it's you who is the troll. As you stated you quoted a guy from the 9th century. Turk & Mongol Rule "930" . Can you count?
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Nice try hiding you are uneducated! The "time range 930-1500" does NEVER include the 9th century.

Loool.

Again: please Tell me your education. But you refuse to tell me, cause you are ashamed [Big Grin]

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You speak of education, yet cannot even write a simple proper sentence. And my educational background is well know here on the platform. [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
quote:
It's about the happenings during that time range itself, not about the "actual" century description given.
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] Nope. Since you wrote:

quote:
Nope, actually it's you who is the troll. As you stated you quoted a guy from the 9th century. Turk & Mongol Rule "930" . Can you count?
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Nice try hiding you are uneducated!

Loool.

Again: please Tell me your education. But you refuse to tell me, cause you are ashamed [Big Grin]

Funny how you keep skipping this reality. Try to connect these dots, indent of meaning a fool out of yourself.


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Muslim Arabs Conquer Iraq from Persian Sassanid Empire (633 - 636): Islam proved to be a powerful unifying force, enabling the previously fragmented Arab tribes to defeat the highly-feared Persian army. The Arab invasion began after the death of Muhammad, led by his successor, Abu Bakr (first Caliph - Muslim Emperor).

http://www.worldology.com/Iraq/arab_muslim_caliphate.htm


SELJUK TURKS

  • Seljuks and Early Turkish States
  • Turkish Tribes in the Middle Ages
  • Creation of the Seljuk Empire In Iran and Iraq
  • Seljuk Rule in Iran and Iraq
  • Seljuk Turks in Central Asia



http://factsanddetails.com/asian/cat65/sub424/entry-5258.html

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Funny how you keep skipping this reality

OMG [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Would someone please Tell this Kid that 930AD- 1532AD is DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 9TH Century????
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

ISH Gebor you are just das. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
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Funny how you keep skipping this reality

OMG [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Would someone please Tell this Kid that 930AD- 1532AD is DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 9TH Century????
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

ISH Gebor you are just das. [Big Grin]

Kid, it is in continuation of what was prior, do you have a brain, kid?


Lisan Al-Arab was published in 1883, however the rule by Seljuks was already set in motion by Creation of the Seljuk Empire In Iran and Iraq.

I should have pick a better source from start, considering your backwards dimwitted thinking.

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The strongest of these tribes was the Seljuks. In the wake of the Samanids (819-1005)---Persians who set up a local dynasty in Central Asia within the Abbasid Empire--- arose to two Turkish dynasties: the Ghaznavids, based in Khorasan in present-day Turkmenistan, and the Karakhanids from present-day Kazakhstan.

[…]

The Abbasids—the Arab-Muslim rulers of Bahgdad—were displaced by Turkic-speaking warriors who had been in Central Asia for more than a millennium. The Abbasid caliphs began enlisting these people as slave warriors as early as the ninth century. The Turkish horsemen, known as gazis , were organized into tribal bands to defend the frontiers of the caliphate, often against their own kinsmen.


Shortly thereafter the real power of the Abbasid caliphs began to wane; eventually they became religious figureheads while the warrior slaves ruled. As the power of the Abbasid caliphs diminished, a series of independent and indigenous dynasties rose in various parts of Iran, some with considerable influence and power. Among the most important of these overlapping dynasties were the Tahirids in Khorasan (820-72); the Saffarids in Sistan (867-903); and the Samanids (875-1005), originally at Bukhara (also cited as Bokhara).

http://factsanddetails.com/asian/cat65/sub424/entry-5258.html#chapter-3


Keep making yourself look like a jackass.

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ISH GEBOR

What the f..k are u talking about?? Lool

I quoted a guy from the 9 TH Century who Said greeks, romans, persians are red ( White skinned) and you present me turkic Migration from 930 - 1532 AD.

Which started decades after All jahiz wrote this book!!!!

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

You are too HILARIOUS, this is why you dont dare to tell me about your education [Big Grin]

Are there actually any academics on this Board?

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
ISH GEBOR

What the f..k are u talking about?? Lool

I quoted a guy from the 9 TH Century who Said greeks, romans, persians are red ( White skinned) and you present me turkic Migration from 930 - 1532 AD.

Which happened decades after All jahiz wrote this book!!!!
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

You are too HILARIOUS, this is why dont dare to tell me about your education [Big Grin]

It's funny how you ignore the fact I have posted for you, and how you keep acting like a preteen, or better yet "a retard". And you actually think you're making "valid arguments".


It's more relevant for you tell your background, since you are new here and can't write a simple proper sentence, which means you have difficulty with "basic English", which therefore explains your stupid rantings and continuous iterations, while you have been debunked already over these.


Do you understand the following words, jackass?

quote:


The strongest of these tribes was the Seljuks. In the wake of the Samanids (819-1005)---Persians who set up a local dynasty in Central Asia within the Abbasid Empire--- arose to two Turkish dynasties: the Ghaznavids, based in Khorasan in present-day Turkmenistan, and the Karakhanids from present-day Kazakhstan.

[…]

The Abbasids—the Arab-Muslim rulers of Bahgdad—were displaced by Turkic-speaking warriors who had been in Central Asia for more than a millennium. The Abbasid caliphs began enlisting these people as slave warriors as early as the ninth century. The Turkish horsemen, known as gazis , were organized into tribal bands to defend the frontiers of the caliphate, often against their own kinsmen.


Shortly thereafter the real power of the Abbasid caliphs began to wane; eventually they became religious figureheads while the warrior slaves ruled. As the power of the Abbasid caliphs diminished, a series of independent and indigenous dynasties rose in various parts of Iran, some with considerable influence and power. Among the most important of these overlapping dynasties were the Tahirids in Khorasan (820-72); the Saffarids in Sistan (867-903); and the Samanids (875-1005), originally at Bukhara (also cited as Bokhara).

http://factsanddetails.com/asian/cat65/sub424/entry-5258.html#chapter-3


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=012702;p=2#000088


Keep making a fool out of yourself.

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OMG !!!!!!

The seljuks arrived in that area AFTER the 9th Century. Before that they were in Central Asia as your "source" states.

And turks where known to arabs already in the 9th Century. So you think in the 9th Century they couldnt differ between greeks romans persians turks, when the turkic Migration started in the 10 th Century and constatiopel fell in the 15th Century???

Loooooooooool [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Ahahhhaaa. So arabs confused greeks,Romans, persians with turks who lived in khazakhstan, Turkmenistan khorasan as you stated???

Toooo Hilarius !!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
OMG !!!!!!

]The seljuks arrived in that area AFTER the 9th Century. Before that they were in Central Asia as your "source" states.

And turks where known to arabs already in the 9th Century. So you think in the 9th Century they couldnt differ between greeks romans persians turks, when the turkic Migration started in the 10 th Century???

Loooooooooool [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Yawn,…

In the wake of the Samanids (819-1005)

The Abbasids—the Arab-Muslim rulers of Bahgdad—were displaced by Turkic-speaking warriors who had been in Central Asia for more than a millennium

Among the most important of these overlapping dynasties were the Tahirids in Khorasan (820-72); the Saffarids in Sistan (867-903); and the Samanids (875-1005), originally at Bukhara (also cited as Bokhara).



Keep posting your smilies. [Cool]


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Samanids were iranics not turkics [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] !!!!
Looool

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loooool

First of all Samanids were iranics not turkics [Big Grin]

secondly, why do you think Al Jahiz confused Khorasan in NORTHWESTERN Iran with persian in the rest of Iran ??`?

And this still leaves greeks and romans white. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Samanids were iranics not turkics [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] !!!!
Looool

Duh, that is what this is about you jackass.
You are even more retard than I suspected:


Creation of the Seljuk Empire In Iran and Iraq


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From the book “God's black Prophets”:

When Christian Ethiopia reconquered Jewish Yemen in 520 CE, Jewish exiles sought assistance from the Byzantine ruler of Constantinople who turned them down on behalf of his co-religionists. On the other hand Chosroes, Zoroastrian king of Persia, took a different position. He said to the Jews: "This is the white skin against the black race. I am closer to you than to the Abyssinians." After their victory over 'the black race' the victory poem began: "We have crossed the waters to free Himyar (southern Arabia) from the tyranny of the blacks."

Sayf b. Dhû Yazan, a chief of the dominant Himayrite clan of Arabs, went to Chosroes (Khusrû), the king of Persia, for help. "He said: 'O King, ravens have taken possession of our country.' Chosroes asked, 'What ravens, Abyssinians or Sindhians?' 'Abyssinians,' he replied." "Ravens" meant black people, who were identified with Indians and Abyssinians in the minds of Arabs and Persians at that time.

And:

“When the Persian king (Chosroes) heard of this he sent Wahriz with 4,000 Persians and ordered him to kill every Abyssinian or child of an Abyssinian and an Arab woman, great or small, and not leave alive a single man with crisp curly hair.

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No they were white.

Sasanian murals in Kuh i khwaja 400 AD, Iran:

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Alexander sarcophargus showing Greeks fighting Persians, 325BC ( colours revealed by UV/Vis spectrometry

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Wood painting in an achaemenid Tomb found in Turkey, Tatarli Tumulus, 400–500 BC (original coulours)

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Sasanian embassy in India 450 AD ( Ajanta caves, India)

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Alexander mosaic (100 BC)

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Alexander and Roxane as Mars and Venus, persian solider to the left, 200 BC Pompeji

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Sasanian Princes (300AD, Iran, Shahr e Gur)
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Sasanian noble men 400 AD, Hajyabad, Iran

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Sasanian bust of Khusrau found in Ctesiphon (this bust's beard and hair can be compared to the above mural painting)

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Coptic textile showing Sasanians fighting Arabs and Ethiopians (600–700AD)

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Achaemenid noble man
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Sasanian bust found in Susa, Iran

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Sasanian Vase (500 AD, Merv)

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Tissaphernes, Achaemenid satrap
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Pharnabazos, Achaemenid Satrap, 400 BC
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Spithridates, Achaemenid Satrap 330 BC
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Autophradates I, Achaemenid naval Commander
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Baydad, first persian satrap in seleucid Iran
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Sasanian King 400 AD
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Sasanian bust


Head of a dying Persian, Italy 200 AD


Darius Vase 330 BC

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Mosaic of a sasanian lady with braided Hair found in Iran
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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
From the book “God's black Prophets”:

When Christian Ethiopia reconquered Jewish Yemen in 520 CE, Jewish exiles sought assistance from the Byzantine ruler of Constantinople who turned them down on behalf of his co-religionists. On the other hand Chosroes, Zoroastrian king of Persia, took a different position. He said to the Jews: "This is the white skin against the black race. I am closer to you than to the Abyssinians[{B]." After their victory over 'the black race' the victory poem began: "We have crossed the waters to free Himyar (southern Arabia) from the tyranny of the blacks."

Sayf b. Dhû Yazan, a chief of the dominant Himayrite clan of Arabs, went to Chosroes (Khusrû), the king of Persia, for help. "He said: 'O King, ravens have taken possession of our country.' Chosroes asked, 'What ravens, Abyssinians or Sindhians?' 'Abyssinians,' he replied." "Ravens" meant black people, who were identified with Indians and Abyssinians in the minds of Arabs and Persians at that time.

And:

“When the Persian king (Chosroes) heard of this he sent Wahriz with 4,000 Persians and ordered him [B]to kill every Abyssinian or child of an Abyssinian and an Arab woman, great or small, and not leave alive a single man with crisp curly hair.

Well well well,


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From the book “God's black Prophets”:

When Christian Ethiopia reconquered Jewish Yemen in 520 CE, Jewish exiles sought assistance from the Byzantine ruler of Constantinople who turned them down on behalf of his co-religionists. On the other hand Chosroes, Zoroastrian king of Persia, took a different position. He said to the Jews: "This is the white skin against the black race. I am closer to you than to the Abyssinians." After their victory over 'the black race' the victory poem began: "We have crossed the waters to free Himyar (southern Arabia) from the tyranny of the blacks."

Sayf b. Dhû Yazan, a chief of the dominant Himayrite clan of Arabs, went to Chosroes (Khusrû), the king of Persia, for help. "He said: 'O King, ravens have taken possession of our country.' Chosroes asked, 'What ravens, Abyssinians or Sindhians?' 'Abyssinians,' he replied." "Ravens" meant black people, who were identified with Indians and Abyssinians in the minds of Arabs and Persians at that time.

And:

“When the Persian king (Chosroes) heard of this he sent Wahriz with 4,000 Persians and ordered him to kill every Abyssinian or child of an Abyssinian and an Arab woman, great or small, and not leave alive a single man with crisp curly hair.

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After effect of colonization and post-colonization
of African resources and lifetime misery (except for
colluders).


See the sad tale of Zambia, Glencore, and Rüschlikon.

Stealing Africa - Why Poverty?
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWNYemuiAOfU&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjdt_vyxLzaAhUxxVkKHar9A_IQtwIIIDAH&usg=AOvVaw1dtjItYHgSbGY4ZxJtu-wD

Even Players magazine had a Ghana article on
strategic resources and neo-colonialism in 1978. Black Collegian also ran a like article that
included all countries' resources and what
the industrials need them for.


But it's our fault we don't get paid
for our strategic resources, resources
industrial and post industrial economies
NEED to survive.

I wrote an article about it for our ASA
journal but never knew the health issues
and misery exposed in the linked video.

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ahahahaaa

Im presenting you 20 (!!!!) pictures of persians on art created between 350 BC and 700 AD

and you are presenting me 1 picture of Elamites ????

look at their Headresses, they are Elamites [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Please let my write with an academics. you dont have any education obviously

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
From the book “God's black Prophets”:

When Christian Ethiopia reconquered Jewish Yemen in 520 CE, Jewish exiles sought assistance from the Byzantine ruler of Constantinople who turned them down on behalf of his co-religionists. On the other hand Chosroes, Zoroastrian king of Persia, took a different position. He said to the Jews: "This is the white skin against the black race. I am closer to you than to the Abyssinians." After their victory over 'the black race' the victory poem began: "We have crossed the waters to free Himyar (southern Arabia) from the tyranny of the blacks."

Sayf b. Dhû Yazan, a chief of the dominant Himayrite clan of Arabs, went to Chosroes (Khusrû), the king of Persia, for help. "He said: 'O King, ravens have taken possession of our country.' Chosroes asked, 'What ravens, Abyssinians or Sindhians?' 'Abyssinians,' he replied." "Ravens" meant black people, who were identified with Indians and Abyssinians in the minds of Arabs and Persians at that time.

And:

“When the Persian king (Chosroes) heard of this he sent Wahriz with 4,000 Persians and ordered him to kill every Abyssinian or child of an Abyssinian and an Arab woman, great or small, and not leave alive a single man with crisp curly hair.

Yawn, …

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hahahahahaahh !!!!!!!

Those are not Persians but Elamites [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Please someone with an education show him the difference. i cant right now. im just laughing too hard [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
I showed you Persians, why are you shwoing us Elamites?? [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
hahahahahaahh !!!!!!!

Those are not Persians but Elamites [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Please someone with an education show him the difference. i cant right now. im just laughing too hard [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
I showed you Persians, why are you shwoing us Elamites?? [Big Grin]

Dumbass, you yourself posted "When the Persian king …"

Everything you've post came from afterwards. What part of this you don't understand? Keep laughing you look stupid anyway.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
hahahahahaahh !!!!!!!

Those are not Persians but Elamites [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Please someone with an education show him the difference. i cant right now. im just laughing too hard [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
I showed you Persians, why are you shwoing us Elamites?? [Big Grin]

Try this one:

Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.


Nahum 3:9 "Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and it was infinite"...

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try this one:

Sasanian Princes in Shahr e Gur, Iran 300 AD
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Sasanian noble men 400 AD, Hajyabad, Iran

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Sasanian bust of Khusrau found in Ctesiphon (this bust's beard and hair can be compared to the above mural painting)

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Coptic textile showing Sasanians fighting Arabs and Ethiopians (600–700AD)

“When the Persian king (Chosroes) heard of this he sent Wahriz with 4,000 Persians and ordered him to kill every Abyssinian or child of an Abyssinian and an Arab woman, great or small, and not leave alive a single man with crisp curly hair

This textile fits the text right? [Big Grin]
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400 AD,? [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
When the Persian king (Chosroes) heard of this he sent Wahriz with 4,000 Persians and ordered him to kill every Abyssinian or child of an Abyssinian and an Arab woman, great or small, and not leave alive a single man with crisp curly hair

Are you serious?

Nahum 3:9 "Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and it was infinite"


Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.


Nahum, Nineveh and Those Nasty Assyrians

He cleared the Delta of the Cushites (Ethiopians) in 667/666 BC and the Cushite ruler, Taharqa, fled to No-Amon.

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/05/28/Nahum2c-Nineveh-and-Those-Nasty-Assyrians.aspx


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Keep it going, we are getting there, smallsteps are giant leaps.

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are serious here???
[Eek!] [Eek!]
Im presenting you COLOURED pics of PERSIANS that show that achaemenids and sasanians where white.

but you keep posting pics of Non-Persian Elamites, Assyrians, Babylonians !!!
What is your Problem ?? Seriously??

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BTW:

Here you have the sasanian WHITE King Khusrau and his fellow WHITE sasanians fighting BLACKS [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
are serious here???
[Eek!] [Eek!]
Im presenting you COLOURED pics of PERSIANS that show that achaemenids and sasanians where white.

but you keep posting pics of Non-Persian Elamites, Assyrians, Babylonians !!!
What is your Problem ?? Seriously??

I kept posting those on purpose, but you are slow. Within a few months you will catch up. What you are showing only testifies what I've been posting all along.

Anyway,

Keep it going, we are getting there, smallsteps are giant leaps.


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https://fineartamerica.com/featured/jesus-christ-300-ad-beehive-publishing.html


I am here to do the bigger work, Ish Gebor.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nevermore:
BTW:

Here you have the sasanian WHITE King Khusrau and his fellow WHITE sasanians fighting BLACKS [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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It only contributes to what I have been posting.

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