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Elmaestro
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Might as well archive and talk about these on this website, why not?

100% Africans...
Ormuka, A Nigerian Youtube personality.
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Her,
https://youtu.be/oZeds5MxKvc

and Mother.
https://youtu.be/J_lCy3GEgQQ

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This wonderful woman goes by Mama Dee on Youtube, and says she's of Xhosa lineage.
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here's her Ancestry results complete with her raw data uploaded to GEDMatch
https://youtu.be/lOTH8_CCr5M
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Background information from the Fulani Man Ish Gebor put us on to in Egyptology section.
https://youtu.be/5i5Kfa94vxE
^He included a beautiful but short slideshow at the end of this video check it out.

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His results.
https://youtu.be/ZFQVlUH30g8

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Another Youtube personality 95-99% African, Home team History. He's born to Caribbean
parents btw, and has some interesting results by region imo.
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Ancestry DNA
https://youtu.be/u8mG5SVDePE
23 & Me
https://youtu.be/fhUg0JMXqLI
He does vids on African history & worldview, let this man know he's not alone and lend some support.

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Young Afram Lady, 92% African via Ancestry.com, but has some interesting GEDMatch results.
Shuntasia on Youtube.
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https://youtu.be/g8dNdQffLW0
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...I'm gonna upload my own one day.

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Last one for now, (from me at least).

Guess who's more African?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdiDdvGTy6M

This one is very interesting, only if the couple were more knowledgeable about African history.

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^ Ayo, would you mind?? lol
Keep it short man, Where are the mods for this section?????????????????????

Afro Latina from Panama, Tanny D.
92% African
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https://youtu.be/gqTdX5E2eHI

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@Elmaestro, I have been sick the past few days, will remove OT posts.

Edit: Dr. Winters, from your plagiarism of Tukuler's posts to your repeated spams despite several requests not to, maybe you should take some time off.

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Now this is more like it...

@Elmaestro

Please post more.

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quote:
Originally posted by Elmaestro:
^ Ayo, would you mind?? lol
Keep it short man, Where are the mods for this section?????????????????????

Afro Latina from Panama, Tanny D.
92% African
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https://youtu.be/gqTdX5E2eHI

^ Of her African ancestry she is primarily Nigerian (36%).
We are familiar with Southern Africans being relatively lighter however you see this in some Nigerians such as Monalisa Chinda >>

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http://www.mjemagazine.com/photos-latest-pictures-of-nollywood-actress-monalisa-chinda/

^ It might be possible some of them came from the South od Africa at some point


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Nigerian author, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie


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Wole Soyinka Nigerian playwright and poet, Nobel Prize in Literature,

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Mr. Elmaestro

Please post more.

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I will resume eventually, I've been a bit tied up as of late, sorry.

@Lioness
you consider Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Light skinned? ...cuh?

Btw don't you feel that an easier explanation for the appearance of 1 or 2 lightskinned people in equatorial Africa might just be a result of the innate diversity and heterogeneity. Like one Dark African + another dark African can give you a Light person if the right genes are passed down. It depends on how pleiotropic said variant is that produces lighter pigmentation in said individual.

A more telling trait imo of southern African influence is the eyes.

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quote:
Originally posted by Elmaestro:
[QB] I will resume eventually, I've been a bit tied up as of late, sorry.

@Lioness
you consider Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Light skinned? ...cuh?


No I put her in for contrast. I could be wrong but it seems like the Nigerians who are lighter skinned also have wider faces, broader features, similar to South Africans. Maybe long ago some South Africans migrated there.
Chimamanda has a less broad face than the others
The 'bantu' in South Africa have some San admixture (and vice versa) The San often have the broad faces and at the same time lighter skin.


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Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

Yet at the same time Chimamanda sometimes appears lighter. I don't think it's photoshop. If you look at multiple pictures of Wole Soyinka he can look light, others, notably darker.
I think this corresponds to the amount of time they spend in Africa, vs. Europe and the season.
It's the amount of tanning.
Other Nigerians look quite dark all the time
So Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie wasn't even the best example.
Skin lightening creme is also used by some women so that is another factor, Nigeria has the world's highest percentage of women using skin lightening agents

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^^
Also, the lighting should also be factored in. Sometimes, harsh lighting will change your complexion, as well as sun tanning.

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One would expect this cuties to be heavily admixted due to not having "stereotypical black" features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z499H-kbwP4

Yet she is around 75%. As more AAs take individual admixture test we are not only busting the myth that AAs are highly admixed but that anything light skin is highly admixed...

Edit-Before anyone says its the lighting, she is STILL quite light and many people still associate her look with being due to recent admixture.

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Because it is recent admixture. Light skin isn't prevalent in Africa. I know you're going to bring up the Khoi-San, but they're not exactly strong in numbers (excluding those amongst them who are actually mixed, like the Oorlam & Griqua) , and these "red Igbo's" are obviously a tiny minority in an ethnic group that numbers above 30 million people.

"Stereotypical black features" or should I say, West African/West-Central Africa/South East Africa/East Africa/South West Africa/Southern Africa - features are stereotypical because those features are the RULE, not the exception. Sounds like you're just trying to justify your lightskin fetish.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snakepit1:
Because it is recent admixture. Light skin isn't prevalent in Africa. I know you're going to bring up the Khoi-San, but they're not exactly strong in numbers (excluding those amongst them who are actually mixed, like the Oorlam & Griqua) , and these "red Igbo's" are obviously a tiny minority in an ethnic group that numbers above 30 million people.

"Stereotypical black features" or should I say, West African/West-Central Africa/South East Africa/East Africa/South West Africa/Southern Africa - features are stereotypical because those features are the RULE, not the exception. Sounds like you're just trying to justify your lightskin fetish.

The Khoisan being light skin is a joke to me. You see Africans in other parts of Africa, including West Africa, that are much lighter.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snakepit1:
Because it is recent admixture. Light skin isn't prevalent in Africa. I know you're going to bring up the Khoi-San, but they're not exactly strong in numbers (excluding those amongst them who are actually mixed, like the Oorlam & Griqua) , and these "red Igbo's" are obviously a tiny minority in an ethnic group that numbers above 30 million people.

"Stereotypical black features" or should I say, West African/West-Central Africa/South East Africa/East Africa/South West Africa/Southern Africa - features are stereotypical because those features are the RULE, not the exception. Sounds like you're just trying to justify your lightskin fetish.

I don't know how your post correlates with my one..?

I'm talking about the myth of any AA having light skin must being HEAVILY admixed[whether recent or not] and you're talking about light skin in Africa.

But since we're talking about Africa there are already studies that state SSA have the largest skin tone diversity. And there are many ethnic groups in Africa besides the Igbos and Khoisan who possess lighter skin tones.

As for your second paragraph knock it off with the projections. And lastly what I mean in "stereotypical" African features are "true Negroid" features which are NOT the rule in places like the Horn, Sudan, Southeast Africa and even parts of West Africa. I know because I been to Africa. It seems like you're the one with the fetish trying to group all Africans into one monolithic phenotype.

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PS-Many AAs especially in the DMV descend from Igbos and slave traders during the time of the slave trade noted the Igbos for their light complexions compared to surrounding Africans.

Anyways, back on topic.

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^TBH, That girl in your link above isn't astonishingly light, I think we're all confused on the implications of tanning and Genetic diversity. There's a reason why the African Diaspora avg's a range of about 30 on a melanin index... It corresponds to the diversity as well as the immediate result of UV exposure. Someone living in Europe or New England for a decade can be significantly lighter than if they've lived near the equator for their entire lives...period. Lightening in Africans is not always a direct indication of admixture or bleaching.

...Have anyone ever heard of the terms Mutational and Genetic Load?

but yeah back on topic now that I have some downtime.

revisiting Saad, the Fulani man linked above... He uploaded his Jamaican wife's results... she's 100% African. GG's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEWUDbmYvh4
...However, sadly, we don't know much about her or how she looks except for her mom being from Spanishtown and Dad being from portland... and that Saad believes she "looks fulani" ..whatever that means.

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A lot of us on this forum have an obsession with (Ancient)Nilers... pretty sure we have one in some way shape or form Najma M... her genetic profile is interesting, follow her on IG @HIGHNESSN ...same for Twitter. I believe she's kenyan ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJ-dLZhXF0

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Now IDK if I'm mad or bad at math and don't know yet, but her trace regions don't total the 33% unspecified at first... Would like to see some discussion about what's happening here.

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I don't know much about this person outside of her DNA results but I must say, these are some of the most detailed and concise breakdown of a person (African) ancestry and population history I've seen posted. It's very interesting too.. I'm guessing she's African American because of her guessing she'd have Native and African blood, she was pretty wrong about the Native Ancestry as usual. If she is Afram I'm legit interested as she's one of the few to have significant sudanic, saharan and low amounts of west African (labeled) ancestry.

Btw she's around 83% African.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RuhvbCgxvg

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^What I mean is that some people would have not considered her features "stereotypical true black" and assumed she was heavily admixed. Not just skin complexion.

Anyways, back on topic. And the second video of the girl you posted seems a bit clueless. Her having Sudanic ancestry is pretty interesting.

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Also that Kenyan girl may be Swahili which explains why her ancestry is all over the damn place. lol.
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I don't agree 100 % on the first part of your premise because white have live outside of Europe in various climate zones with different UV ranges from 100-500 years depending on which white group you to choose and the people they live with were or are much darker than them especially when history from these countries had a black population who may not exist in "pure" form,I have no problem with any genetic part,when whites are involved I'm generally cautious.


Here's a lady I stumbled upon and thought she was white or mixed.

https://youtu.be/srURDoK0US0

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quote:
Originally posted by Thereal:



Here's a lady I stumbled upon and thought she was white or mixed.

https://youtu.be/srURDoK0US0

Proves once again that phenotype is irrelevant for the most part.
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quote:
Originally posted by Elite Diasporan:
Also that Kenyan girl may be Swahili which explains why her ancestry is all over the damn place. lol.

Yeah, She said she or her father spoke Swahili, I don't know much more about her Nationality though... I was hoping she would've elaborated during the 5+ minutes of garbage time, I also wanna know her fathers YHap and her MtHap.

It's so weird how the girl in thereals video is extremely light, but if you look at her you can tell that she's what westerners would call "black" or Afro descended. IDK if it's because of how even her skin tone is or if it's a whole bunch of minute hints in phenotype.

For instance, to me these guys, the hodgetwins though quite darker look more "mixed" to me than the woman above... I was a lil surprised by their results.
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This woman who goes by Heyparis, a YouTube personality is 93% African.
But pay Attention to what she says at around 1:34.
Link

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92% African
IndiaVlogsHair on Youtube, check her out.
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For the so called Genealogical experts
Can anyone guess what she is?

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@Elmaestro

Like I said if she is Swahili[whether Kenyan Swahili or Tanzanian Swahili] then it should be of no surprise that her ancestry is allover the place. The Swahili have been mixing with foreigners[Arabs, Persians, other Near Easterners, Indians and EVEN East Asians] since they became a maritime people.

As for the girl in Korea the makeup seems to make her lighter. But I'm still surprised at her results. The IndiaVlogHair channel once again debunks the myth of brown skinned AAs having significant European DNA.

As for the last chick you want us to guess. I'm guessing 75-85% African.

Anyways keep doing a good job. You're debunking the dumbass nonsense that you have to be extremely dark skin with steortypucak black features to have significant African admixture.

If you are AA then you would notice that lighter toned AAs in terms of phenotype resemble lighter complexioned Igbos/Cameroonians, Lighter complexioned Akan[Ivory Coast] and Guineans. None of this should be surprising considering AAs are a mix of MANY African groups. Mostly speaking for AAs tho.

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A couple of old ones,the late Barbara mcnair and Yolanda king,mlk daughter she had a Khoisan look when she was younger and McNair looks mixed though in her old age she doesn't appeare so.

https://stacks.stanford.edu/image/iiif/tm599yd9813%2F14_coretta_00007/full/!400,400/0/default.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b0/13/db/b013db424bc599f1ec5a94c758d0e34c--civil-rights-leaders-the-martin.jpg


https://djlarsupreme.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/bm_41.jpg?w=321&h=457

https://www.barbaramcnair.com/images/Barbara's%20choice%20%20color2%20copy1%20Silver%20Dress%20watermark.jpg

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look at the light skin cat on the upper right, what's up with that?

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Is she African American as her features don't seem unusual just on the thin side.
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quote:
Originally posted by Thereal:
Is she African American as her features don't seem unusual just on the thin side.

She seems to be an AA from Florida.
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quote:
Originally posted by Elite Diasporan:
quote:
Originally posted by Thereal:
Is she African American as her features don't seem unusual just on the thin side.

She seems to be an AA from Florida.
Are you saying you can see differences?
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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look at the light skin cat on the upper right, what's up with that?

Can this post be removed it is off topic!!!!!
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quote:
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Originally posted by Elite Diasporan:
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Originally posted by Thereal:
Is she African American as her features don't seem unusual just on the thin side.

She seems to be an AA from Florida.
Are you saying you can see differences?
No I looked her up on Instagram. Again going by her profile she seems to be AA from Florida.
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TBH, a lot of new world blacks that are light skinned have central/southern African features, broad round faces and somewhat chinky epicanthic-like eyes... I initially thought it was probably admixture from Various Native group or east Asians but there might be a southern Bantu correlation. Like lioness pointed out earlier about possible admixture from south Africans, you can tell by the features where in Africa might be responsible for the phenotype...

The floridian girl posted by BBH is interesting cause she has an Ivorian/Sierra leonian like face in my opinion... She's just light skinned.

by the way, click on the word 'What' in my above post to find out the answer of the question.

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@Elmaestro

I personally disagree. It has nothing to do with Bantus especially those from Southern Africa[they were hardly taken into the slave trade]. To me light skin new world blacks look like Ivory Coast[Akans], Igbos, and Cameroonians.

They too have epicanthic-like eyes and were even noted by the early slave traders to have been quite light compared to surrounding West African groups.

Also the video you told us to click on is gone.

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quote:
Originally posted by Elite Diasporan:
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Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
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Originally posted by Elite Diasporan:
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Originally posted by Thereal:
Is she African American as her features don't seem unusual just on the thin side.

She seems to be an AA from Florida.
Are you saying you can see differences?
No I looked her up on Instagram. Again going by her profile she seems to be AA from Florida.
Oh okay.
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Janice Speaks On The Divide Between Africans & Black Americans

https://youtu.be/-OBd2ANP8Lo


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