Maaan they knew before? of course hotels would be targeted they are prime places to attack.. why only casinos.. I think they were hell bent on ruining the tourist trade not the casino trade only as one goes hand in hand with another....I don't think their is any excuse for not putting hotels on high alert.. they already have stopped anyone using the hotel carparks as it is.. and it is obvious that the bombers could not getright into town ~Na'ama~ as no-one is allowed to take their cars down.. only taxis with a licence were allowed down that far after the Taba bombings..so has to be a taxi that blew...as the top of the road leading down to Na'ama is blocked except to taxis...usualy all roads leading to the bay are blocked but it has been possible to drive further down the main rd~peace rd~ and take a turn right down a side road and park.. if the police were in a good mood or liked the look of ur face lol...~I have done it~..I send my condolences to those who lost loved ones and those who also lost breadwinners... sad sad times we live in.....
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There was NO hightened security here before the bomb, ( I dont know about Casino's as I don't go there) I have been here when there is a security alert. Cars were coming though Naama bay that night as usual. As you say smiley if your face looks right then you can get through. And to be honest even when security is hightened it is farsical, just going through the motions stuff. The only time security is truly working is when Mubarak visits and then it is sod the inconvenience to everybody and the whole place grinds to a halt. Obviously tourists money is very welcome but their lives are cheap.
Should we really be saying to people come here and support Egypt. This place is in my heart but reading that article has made me very angry.
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I see what I see with my eyes, not what I read in the paper or on the internet. People can choose to be fools if they want that is up to them. Let Egypt draw breath to sort itself out, then and only then tell the tourist it is safe to come back.
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As much as i love sharm and i truely do.. Penny you have a point.. Egypt has to draw a breath it has to settle.. because no tourist in their right mind would put themselves in harms way and come for a visit.. my family in the u.k has told me to forget it.. and yes they love Sharm also...unless something very serious is done to stop this ,tourists will not visit and it will be the shop keepers and those trying to live in sharm who have families to feed who will suffer.... tis problem si world wideright now..money has to be spent on security... not only when Mubarek decides to visit... and again she is right.. no-one is able to move when he is there.. we can always tell when he is gone as our street gets unblocked and i do not have to drive all the way to old sharm to do a u turn to get back to Na'ama bay... if there was TRUE security maybe Sharm would have had a chance... obviously there was none and it did not.... this sucks...
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All I can add is I have again talked to senior police officers today and they are still saying to me stay put and dont go out unless you have to. They are all extremely nervous and there is a very strong feeling things are not finished yet.
I will say it again and be very clear......do not come to Sharm at the moment it is not safe.
In London recently everyone was sure 7th July was 'our hit' events since show things are far from over yet. Sharm may follow a similar pattern and there is not the security here that there is in London. None of us have much choice where we live our daily lives but we do have a choice where we go on holiday. Use your heads not your hearts.
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just to remember 1-90% tourism crimes in EgPT not be mostly visctems from 2 nationalities 2-before luxor crime 1992 happen all tour groups went up to there program tothe Temple but 2 nationalities changed there course (American and Israeli groups) 3-the same in Cairo museum buses when there where no one in museume from those 2 nationalities 4-and in sharm there were about 10,000 Israelis in and every one know that American now prefer cruses but only one Israelis had been killed in this tragedy and all the bombs where mostly be where are Egyptian in 5-one of Israelis news paper 2 weeks ago warning Israelis stop going to sharm in this time 6- the hands must be Muslims this is the way to send the eyes a way from the real criminal and giving enough reasons to execution the Muslims and deformity Islam in eyes of who are not Muslims the same game since long time ago
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Pffff...Stop this paranoia!! About the Israelis warned by their governement, they have excellent secret services, that's it. Egypt was warned as well about possible attacks in Sharm 4 days before. Posts: 213 | From: Paris/ Le Caire | Registered: May 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Penny: I see what I see with my eyes, not what I read in the paper or on the internet. People can choose to be fools if they want that is up to them. Let Egypt draw breath to sort itself out, then and only then tell the tourist it is safe to come back.
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quote:Obviously tourists money is very welcome but their lives are cheap.
That's missing the point. Are you saying that the government should provide more security to tourists becasue they're spending money and to hell with Egyptians? ( which they were doing )
It has nothing to do with who is spending money and where. The problem is much more complex and will not be solved by providing more security to tourists and you can not make the country safe for one group and execlude others. It's either safe ot not.
And you are right Sharm is not safe and so is the rest of Egypt. I have stated many times that the worst is yet to come. Egypt haven't been safe for more than twenty years and it only makes sense that it is going to get much worse.
My concern is NOT toursits, my concern is EGYTPIANS
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To EgyptianGuide, You REALLY need to stop blaming Israelis and Americans for every problem that pops up. You really need to open up your eyes and see that THERE ARE MUSLIMS OUT THERE WHO GO AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD! As hard as that is for you to believe. Albeit, I'll say this, NOT ALL MUSLIMS but a VERY small minority, but nevertheless they are who they are!!!! To say that, 10,000 Israelis left Sharm El Sheik because they knew about a specific attack or they escaped the Luxor attacks because they knew about it or maybe you're saying they had a hand in it, is simply ridiculous!!! but as someone else has mentioned, Israel has one of the BEST security and intelligence forces in the world, (You have to when all your neighbours want to destroy you) And I wouldn't be surprised if they knew of an imminent attack but not a specific attack and warned their citizens... Even America knew that there was going to be 'an attack' in early September of 2001, they just didn't know where or when. All I wanted to say was, Israel is not out to destroy the Arab world, or Muslims, they are trying to defend their citizens and their right to exist as a country. But to endlessly blame Israel and America for a problem that is of Extremist Muslim nature is both futile and abhorrent. Thanks. J.
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the original Israelis the sons of prophet Jakob( who has a right in promises land in old testament) since 2000 years ago they started to be Cristin's when prophet Jesus be among of them &since 1500 years ago many Israelis clans be a Muslim like the all aria of Arab world and since 100 years ago people not belong to prophet Jakob in another side of the world liked Judaism as religion and be Jew just Jews but they names them selves Israelis to occupying the Arab lands) instaid they coming to pilgrime they came to occupy so think who the most one will gain from all of that can you understand
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Every life wherever in the world has the same value, we are all just flesh and blood. Most of us have to live in the country we are born to and live with the problems of that country, we have no choice.
The holidays we take as tourists are something we do have a choice over and any country that wants to earn a substantial amount of it's income from tourism has a DUTY to offer safety to those tourists. You cannot ever guarantee 100% safety but even so I think Egypt tried very hard to provide a good level of security in it's toursist resorts. However Egypt has to now be honest and ask itself if considering the scale of the problems in the world if at this time it can offer its visitors the security for what lets face it is just a holiday.
Honesty to the tourist market is all I am asking for and not to put money before peoples lives.
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the original Israelis the sons of prophet Jakob( who has a right in promises land in old testament) since 2000 years ago they started to be Cristin's when prophet Jesus be among of them &since 1500 years ago many Israelis clans be a Muslim like the all aria of Arab world and since 100 years ago people not belong to prophet Jakob in another side of the world liked Judaism as religion and be Jew just Jews but they names them selves Israelis to occupying the Arab lands) instaid they coming to pilgrime they came to occupy so think who the most one will gain from all of that can you understand
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You better improve your English quickly...its requires an effort!
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