oh! here it is:

To be fair, I must admit that all women are not evil. Some are evil, some are wicked, some are hellishly evil, and some are the grand puba of all that is extemporaneously evil. So, some women are not evil, they are just worse.

Fortunately this is not my words, otherwise I must be dead now.

So who said it? Mr. Brister
Mr. Brister is the president and founder of W.A.T.R.O.A.E. which stands for Women Are The Root Of All Evil.

He also said: "Behind every evil man, there is a woman that made him that way."

What is this evil that Brister speak of. If you are male, am sure you have experienced it. If U R a female am sure U will have something to say.

Am open to hear all the viewpoints from local and foreign eveils...lol

As none of my men have been evil I can only assume I am a good woman ROFL

Do U know what men used to say?
Drink triple, see double, and act single.

And U still say that none of them was Evil.....lol

When you take a woman out, you're spending time and money.

Therefore: Women = Time X Money

Since Time = Money, therefore Women = Money squared (to the power of 2)

Since Money is "the root" of all evil, then Women = [The root of all evil][squared]

Therefore Women = Evil!

Aside from that I have to admit, I find women generally a pleasant breeze in a world full of fire...not all of them of course

It is true that women are moody creatures who use their feminie wiles to bring about the destruction of every man.

Every man who has ever died throughout history knew at least one woman.

But let it be known, though we are powerless to their curvature and minions to their mood swings we know on some level that they are evil. We're just too stupid to do anything about it.

But let this serve as a warning, we shall rise up against the brutal feminine rule one day and break the shackles that bind us.

We'll stop living our lives with our every move calculated to impress the evil sex and will shed the burden their long shadow casts on us!

I urge all men to resist the temptations of the succubus we know women to be. Start today and maybe, just maybe, we can make this a man's world!

To all women in this world, don't be offended, am just kidding to urge U to say your opinion...

adoula i took a look at that website from these WATROAE and my very first impression was that whoever wrote that site has taken too many drugs ...

unfortunately i have to admit that there are some evil creatures among us ... but my estimate would be that the proportion of evil women would approximately equal the proportion of evil men ...

but what kind of creature would have developed that site if not a very evil one ... ?

Whittaker Chambers, author of Witness, wrote this about good and evil in some (but not all) fiction: "...everybody, is either all good or all bad, without any of those intermediate shades which, in life, complicate reality and perplex the eye that seeks to probe it truly."

The concepts of pure good and pure evil, as Bruno Bettelheim pointed out, generally exist only in "children's" fiction, such as fairy tales. It's a simplistic view of things, but it allows children to start getting a grasp on right and wrong. When they get older, they should move beyond it and start seeing the complexities in people and the world, and realize the "intermediate shades."

Sometimes, the child's view of good and evil does exist in "adult" fiction. The example I use is that of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, in which the characters are the whitest of whites and the blackest of blacks. Chambers referred to the plot as the "war between the Children of Light and the Children of Darkness." Unfortunately, Rand sincerely thought she was describing the real world.

Tolkien and Chambers are right. In the real world, no one is pure good or pure evil. Such "good" and "evil" exist only in fantasy. Everyone is imperfect: no one is "good" or "evil."

After thinking about this for a few years, I've decided that the definition of good and evil that most of humanity uses has been the cause of most of our problems throughout history. I'm not saying "good" and "evil" don't exist; I'm saying our incorrect concepts of them have been the cause of a horrendous amount of death and destruction.

Here is why: when people talk about "good," they almost always define themselves as good. This means anyone who disagrees with them is evil. Not merely mistaken, but evil. Since they are evil, they have to be destroyed. This has been the tiresome history of the world. The term for this behavior is "scapegoating."

Throughout history people, tribes, nations, religions and ideologies have invariably defined themselves as "good." They then have regularly defined their opponents as "evil." Since they are evil, all problems are projected on them. The logical, indeed inescapable, conclusion: annihilate them. Then there won't be any evil anymore, since the cause of the problems has been eradicated.

The Nazis defined themselves as good. Then they defined their opponents as evil. We know what happened. Contrary to what most people think, six million people didn't die in the death camps. Eleven million did. Six million were Jews; the other five million were Christians (the Nazis wanted to wipe Christianity out, too), Eastern Europeans, Gypsies, and the physically and mentally handicapped.

The Socialists defined themselves as good and their opponents as evil. In the 20th Century, historians estimate 177 million people lost their lives because of scapegoating. Those who had gained control of the State decided they were good, others were evil, and those defined as evil had to die.

One of the early interpretations of the story of the Garden of Eden is that Adam and Eve were expelled for scapegoating. Adam blamed Eve for his transgressions, and Eve blamed the serpent. Neither would accept responsibility for what they did. Then they were kicked out and evil came into the world.

What's interesting about the story, and little-noticed, is that Adam and Eve did not know what good and evil were until they ate of the fruit. What's the first thing they did? Adam pointed his finger at Eve, and Eve pointed hers at the serpent. They knew "good" and "evil" and instantly started scapegoating. Each said, "I'm good and blameless; you're bad and at fault."

The story makes perfect sense if it's realized that Adam and Eve had the wrong concepts of good and evil. If they didn't they wouldn't have instantly started scapegoating each other and gotten kicked out, bringing misfortune into the world. Why would they get kicked out for knowing the right concept of good and evil? It's the wrong concept of good and evil that brings evil into the world, not the right one.

Currently, we have Islamic fundamentalists claiming they are good (and have God on their side), so we are evil – the "Great Satan." We return the favor. We are good (and have God on our side), and they are what Bush called "the evil ones" and "the axis of evil." Or could it be that both sides are mistaken, confused, arrogant? That they are the blind leading the blind, and heading toward a ditch?

M. Scott Peck, author of The People of the Lie, correctly called scapegoating "the genesis of human evil." He's exactly right, but I don't think he goes far enough. The genesis of human evil is because people have false concepts of good and evil. People falsely define themselves as good and others as evil. That is what leads to scapegoating. Nearly everyone ignores the fact that all people are imperfect; therefore no one is "good" or "evil." They may say they know people are imperfect, and not pure good or pure evil, but their actions belie their words.

When we set ourselves up as good, we automatically set someone else up as evil. That's the incorrect view that has led to appalling slaughter throughout history. But it's human nature to do this.

Modern psychology may have found an answer as to why we have these deluded concepts of good and evil. The only school of psychology I pay any attention to is Object Relations Theory. This is what it has to say about scapegoating:

Theorists believe that starting soon after birth babies split their selves into an "all-good" one and an "all-bad" one. The "all-good" self is grandiose and god-like. The "all-bad" one is envious, hating, rageful.

Psychoanalysts Melanie Klein and Joan Riviere (among many others) believe the origins of rage, hate, envy and the desire to destroy are rooted in the initial relationship between the infant's self and what can be called "the primary caregiver" (usually but not necessarily the mother). They write, "For the infant child, the mother is the original and most complete source of satisfaction. Yet this total pleasure is inevitably frustrated."

Theorists believe infants experience this frustration as a threatened destruction of the entire self, since their existence at this age depends completely the care-giver/mother. This frustration generates rage, hatred and a wish to annihilate the "bad object" – the mother. Later, these feelings can be transferred to other people in the world the adult sees as a threat.

What the above means is that our incorrect concepts of good and evil are what leads to rage, hate, envy, jealousy, vengeance, intolerance, and murder. Nearly every bad thing that humans do, in my opinion, is because of our false concepts of good and evil. "I'm good; you're evil. I hate you and want to kill you because you are the evil that is cause of all my problems. I believe the story of the Garden of Eden supports this idea.

I also find it interesting that researchers believe that babies first scapegoat their mothers, just as Adam scapegoated Eve, the mother of all. Science catches up with religion, several thousand years later.

When I looked at other religions to see what they had to say, I found this in Taoism: "As a concept, Taoists do not hold the position of Good against Evil; rather they see the interdependence of all dualities. So when one labels something as a Good, one automatically creates Evil.

"Another way of understanding this is that the sage person knows the reality of Good and Evil, whereas the fool concentrates on the concept of good and evil. The sage knows that any evil will soon be replaced by good; the fool is forever fruitlessly trying to eliminate evil.

"The semanticist Alfred Korzybski expressed this distinction between the concept and the reality with the saying, 'The map is not the territory.'"

"The fool is forever fruitlessly trying to eliminate evil." Humanity has for thousands of years been trying to eliminate "evil." We call something "evil" and then try to destroy it, be it drugs, alcohol, tobacco, guns, SUVs or fatty foods.

I've also recently come to the conclusion there actually is no "evil." The universe it not evil; animals are not evil. The only thing that can be "evil" are some human beings. A very, very small minority, actually. But since all of us are imperfect, not pure good or pure evil, then there are no evil people. "Evil" does not really exist: it's just a convenient fiction, one that when we take it too seriously causes catastrophic problems.

Mind you, I'm not defending immorality or amorality. Far from it. I'm just claiming the opposite of Good is not Evil. The opposite of Good is Sickness. I believe this is why many theologians claim that "evil" is "twisted good." "Evil" is good that's become sick. C.S. Lewis suggested something similar when he wrote of "bad" people being "bent." Twisted. And we should remember that Lucifer was originally an angel, one whose name means "light-bearer." He became a twisted, bent, or "fallen" Good. And in Christian theology, St. Augustine made the argument that evil is not a "thing," i.e., it doesn't really exist.

Good is often defined as "wholeness." Wholeness is related to the words "healthy" and "hale." It comes from the root word for "unbroken unity." What's the opposite of wholeness and health? Not evil, but disease. Sickness. "Unholiness" (unwholeness), minus the moral connotation.

Interestingly, the Greek word diabolos is the root word for "diabolic." It literally means "to throw across," to divide, to disrupt, to separate – to make "not whole." (One of the opposite words, "symbolic," means "to throw together." The flag, for example, is supposed to be a symbol that throws us together.) The concept of sickness as unwholeness and fragmentation has been noticed for thousands of years. The story I keep in mind is when Jesus asked the possessed man his name, and was answered, "My name is Legion, for we are many."

I believe the concept of the opposite of Good being Sickness and not Evil is supported in the Gospels. In them, Jesus' main opponents were the Pharisees. The Pharisees looked down on ill people, believing they somehow deserved their sickness for offending God. They saw these sick people as bad people who had done evil. That's one of the things that happened in the past, and even happens today. Sick people were considered evil; that's why they were sick. Jesus never spoke one word about sick people being bad people. In fact, he healed them, and spoke of healthy people not needing a doctor, but the sick. Not evil, but sick.

When the human race is seen as "sick" – or fallen – there is the possibility of compassion. When people are seen as evil, there is the certainty of hate.

The word usually translated as "sin" in the Bible doesn't mean "evil." It's the Greek word hamartia, which comes from archery, and means "missing the mark." In many modern versions it's translated correctly.

But is not every one of the Seven Deadly Sins based on our narcissism, the unconscious idea that we are good and others are bad? When people are seen as "bad," they are reduced to "things," and the "sinner" becomes a selfish, irresponsible person.

It also didn't surprise me when I found the Buddha said one of the main characteristics of existence was dukka which translates as "suffering." Not evil, but suffering. Sickness. He claimed it was the inevitable result of attaching oneself to false ideas and concepts. He said there was a way out of it, as all religions do. And it's not by hate and destruction.

It also sounds to me that incorrect concepts of good and evil allow people who define themselves as good to become self-righteous and pompous. Sometimes even arrogant, grandiose and hubristic.

The worst people who have ever existed, the ones who have caused untold misery, are psychopaths. The story of Satan is a clinical description of a psychopath. Hitler, Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung were psychopaths. Saddam Hussein is a psychopath. The clinical term for a psychopath is currently Anti-Social Personality Disorder. It's listed as an incurable sickness. Not an evil, but a sickness. A sickness, that since it can't be cured, requires that psychopaths, when they break the law, either be locked up for the rest of their lives or else killed.

People have probably argued since before recorded history whether some people are "sick" or "evil." I opt for sick, because the concept of defining them as evil will sooner or later will slop over onto innocent people. It always has in the past, without fail, with unimaginably horrible consequences. You can say, in an oversimplified sentence, that our incorrect concepts of good and evil are what generates "evil."

I consider myself a conservative libertarian. Or a libertarian conservative. Take your pick. A conservative, in the true sense, is someone who believes one of the purposes of society is to "hold down" all the imperfections in human nature. A leftist, on the other hand, holds to the massively destructive view that "oppressive" society is repressing all the goodness in humanity. Change society radically, or get rid of it, and all the wonderful good stuff in people will blossom.

The incorrect view of good and evil is part of imperfect human nature. It needs to be held down by society. Unfortunately, most societies see the incorrect view of good and evil as a "good" thing, and one that should be taught to citizens. Hence, the unbelievable destruction these concepts have caused in societies. These concepts don't support societies. They destroy them.

The State uses propaganda to manipulate our mistaken notions of good and evil. The essence of propaganda is to say we are under attack because we are good and our opponents evil, to dehumanize and demonize the enemy, and then to claim that those who disagree are evil. Hermann Goering, when he stood in the dock at Nuremburg, said, "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and then denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Then the sheeple march off to war, as they have for thousands of years.

The correct view of good and evil – sickness as the opposite of good – is the one that should be taught, because it supports societies instead of destroying. I want to repeat that not all sickness can be healed. Some people are so bent, so twisted, so murderous, they have to be killed, because they are a permanent danger to everyone. But seeing the guilty as evil ultimately leads to seeing the innocent as evil.

This is the story of one personal reason that I feel shows that women, at least some of them, are evil. I will leave the discussion of why they are all evil for a later time when I am not as busy and I can really get into it.

This quote is unverified. I do not claim these are the original, in fact the original is Arabic!

"I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful."

It was asked, "Are they ungrateful to God?"

He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the charitable deeds done to them. If you have always been benevolent to one of them and then she sees something in you not of her liking, she will say, "I have never received any good from you."

Jen,

Don't worry though, not all females are that bad. Just *almost all* of them....lol

First I would like to thank U for your reply.
It was very nice from U that U talked general.

Now to be fair enough I must know if U R a woman evil or a man evil?

Second I want an answer is Women are Evil?

If U R a man, I am sure U have experienced it. so tell me more.

Men are just as (or even more) evil. men don't know what they have till it's too late.

I can't even count the number of times that i've been ignored or tossed aside and then have the man realize what he's done. but sorry...it's too late. i guess most men just can't handle having an awesome woman in their lives.

Maybe if you guys carried out a full thought process before you spoke things would work out better, huh? don't go blaming everything on women.

Evil, your message was very interesting and deep. I never really understood why was it bad that Adam and Eve knew the concepts of good and evil, and yours is an interesting theory.

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Don't worry though, not all females are that bad. Just *almost all* of them....lol
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So I shuld feel evil then? Thank you very much...

... but I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!

Lori

I was expecting a new thread from you regarding engineering and dating but now seeing you found more complicated subject

Actually I cant agree to you(or maybe I should say I cant agree to Mr.Brister)about the idea of how evil the womens are. I think msjen is completely right. If we need to identify the gender of evil. I might say 50 men and 50 women.

Even there is a turkish saying as "a women can do you a king or a shameful person" I believe we can always use the opposite.

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I certainly hope that most beautiful women are evil and are going straight to Hell. Because Hell is where I am heading to, and I like a good company there. Thank God, all the boring people are going to Heaven.

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good point you make,
but tell us are you a man or a lesbian woman

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Jen,

This is the story of one personal reason that I feel shows that women, at least some of them, are evil.

He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the charitable deeds done to them. If you have always been benevolent to one of them and then she sees something in you not of her liking, she will say, "I have never received any good from you."

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Dear Adoula, well yes, I am waiting for that description of evil, ...

Well, and 'good' is also a matter of definition('i never receied any "good" from you')

I would like to note that a person who is in a charitable position may not be grateful if he/ she thinks that their 'benevolent' has put them into this situation in the first place ...

You are refering to a marriage, or at least a relationship between a man and a woman here, so how could a woman be grateful for a charitable deed - when she should feel that she is part of a PARTNERSHIP. I am not saying that both people do or give the same, I am merely HINTING that the aspects of such a relationship (in fact, any relationship)should be agreeable to BOTH PARTNERS. There should not be one who gives and one who receives, or one who is superior and one who is inferior ... in any aspect (financial, emotional, whatever ...)

But just to confuse things, there are partnerships where both people are HAPPY to be in an un-balanced situation and then there is no reason to complain for either of them ... so long as it was their CHOICE/ DECISION in the first place.

It looks to me as if this is implied in your definition above ... as if there had been an un-voluntary imbalance somehow.

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Originally posted by Aaliyah:
... but Adoula, don't you know that there are much more men in prisons than women? (And not only because we women are too smart to get caught. ) I think women have more empathy which makes them realize better what is wrong and what is good.

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Fanta,
The topic of dating an engineer is coming soon, am just preparing myself to the huge amount of women applications who will be interested.

Now to our topic:
First let us agree that it's cool to be evil...lol
Second, why U don't agree with mr. Brister idea?
As per Dr. Mellow's Guide to Women

Women, by nature, are evil.

The first thing one must remember about a woman is that she knows everything. This is without exception. To go as far as say that a woman knows what you are thinking is not unrealistic. If, at any point of time, you are unsure of what you are thinking, one of the best ways to find out is to ask the nearest woman.

The falling Angels also knows everything.

What have human females done to human males that isn't fair? Mostly being turned into a caveman while females get to stay more childlike.

You may notice things about humans in general, you'll see that there are many males willing to sell out their own, just to please the evil females. (Judges, politicians and other law makers, police, etc) This is because evil females are in control.

Lori,
Some women are evil, some are saints.
Some men bite the big one, some don't.

I know men who are much worse than the worse woman I know. I know women I wouldn't trust my dog around.

Sandal,
I do agree with U 100%, I also hope that all beautiful women who are evil or even not evil are going straight to Hell, so I will be there waiting for them.

Jen,
Your interest in this subject is appreciated.
But:
Pretty horrible, right? Yep. Thats how females are.

When God created woman, she was taken from the rib of man as is described in Genesis. She was not taken from his foot that she might be crushed underneath his heel in bitterness. Neither was she taken from his head so that she might rule over him. She was not taken from the hand so that she might continually fill the position of waiting upon him. She was taken from the rib on man that she might be by his side continually. She is to be loved and is to respond as a part of his body. Husbands and wives are a part of each other.

To love their husbands" is a command. Too often this is equated by men to believe it is only a sexual relationship and in the mind of some women, that is all they think they are good for. To love your husband means that you are a partner with him, working together toward a common goal. Then you can be appreciative of his actions, efforts and work in supporting the family. You will do all that you possibly can to see that they are comfortable and happy when they come home.

"To love their children", is another command. As men provide for the family financially, mothers s tay home and rear the children. This might often be considered a thankless job. This is an area in which you can excel. As he earns the living and supports the family, you take care of the children while he is gone to work and make the house comfortable by keeping it pleasant and enjoyable. Yes, children can become exasperating at times, but remember, they are children who are still developing and learning. They need that sober guiding hand of the mature mother who lets them know that they are the objects of her love and concern.

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Fanta,
The topic of dating an engineer is coming soon, am just preparing myself to the huge amount of women applications who will be interested.

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you hope ...

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The first thing one must remember about a woman is that she knows everything. This is without exception. To go as far as say that a woman knows what you are thinking is not unrealistic. If, at any point of time, you are unsure of what you are thinking, one of the best ways to find out is to ask the nearest woman.

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... and what is wrong with that ?

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I know men who are much worse than the worse woman I know.

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Thank you!

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Sandal,
I do agree with U 100%, I also hope that all beautiful women who are evil or even not evil are going straight to Hell, so I will be there waiting for them.

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Jen,
Your interest in this subject is appreciated.
But: Pretty horrible, right? Yep. Thats how females are.

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??? (don't understand???)

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When God created woman, she was taken from the rib of man as is described in Genesis. She was not taken from his foot that she might be crushed underneath his heel in bitterness. Neither was she taken from his head so that she might rule over him. She was not taken from the hand so that she might continually fill the position of waiting upon him. She was taken from the rib on man that she might be by his side continually. She is to be loved and is to respond as a part of his body. Husbands and wives are a part of each other.

To love their husbands" is a command. Too often this is equated by men to believe it is only a sexual relationship and in the mind of some women, that is all they think they are good for. To love your husband means that you are a partner with him, working together toward a common goal. Then you can be appreciative of his actions, efforts and work in supporting the family. You will do all that you possibly can to see that they are comfortable and happy when they come home.

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well yes, and vice versa!

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"To love their children", is another command. As men provide for the family financially, mothers stay home and rear the children. This might often be considered a thankless job. This is an area in which you can excel. As he earns the living and supports the family, you take care of the children while he is gone to work and make the house comfortable by keeping it pleasant and enjoyable. Yes, children can become exasperating at times, but remember, they are children who are still developing and learning. They need that sober guiding hand of the mature mother who lets them know that they are the objects of her love and concern.

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well exactly, thank you for putting it into so beautiful words, but of course you really mean that raising children is a shared responsibility ??? (here comes into play this 'a woman knows everything' )

For those of you not too inclined with the book of Genesis, there's a little story in there that talks about the creation of both man and woman (Adam and Eve.) Sin did not exist in the world, and both Adam and Eve lived harmoniously together in the Garden of Eden.

Well, in enters Satan. In the guise as a reptile, Satan convinced Eve that the tree would give them power and contained the best fruit in the entire garden. Eve listened to Satan, and also convinced Adam to do the same. They both ate from the tree, and were both punished severely by God. Thus, sin was born on the world, thanks to Satan.

Guys are whipped by girls. They can wrap us around their little finger and make us do almost anything they want. Adam knew God would disapprove of him eating from the Tree of Life, but was easily swayed by the power of a woman.

It is a well-known fact that girls will not listen to guys. No matter how many times you tell them something, they will refuse to listen or believe you. They are always right when it comes to men. HOWEVER, if one of their girl friends tell them something, whether it be true or not, they will always listen and believe. Girls only listen to girls.

Satan is a woman, because Eve listened and did exactly what she told her to do. If Satan had been male, then we wouldn't have sin today, because Eve would have never done what Satan told her, and we could live in peace and harmony.

God created man in his own image. Who would have known that he was copying the likeness of Satan when he made women?

Here is some of the things that men say it is wrong with the views of females today.

1- Females who don't want to help males, in any way.
2- Females who have a hugely overblown ego. They think they are sooo bloody amazing, just because they are female.
3- Females who are very self obsessive. They are more likely to be in love with themself than with a guy.
4- Females who are incredibly insensitive to males. They want to think that because males are male, they can't have any feelings about "male only" situations. And that males probably have less feelings about any situation anyhow!
5- Females who love to state. They hate to learn. They love to make up lies. But they hate to listen.
6- Females who think it is just perfect to hate guys for no reason. They make it into an artform, they make it into an INDUSTRY. There are greeting cards telling males how useless they are.

Below, I will only select the best evil female links!):
www.succubus.net/bitch/
You must visit this site! Think you know what females are like on the inside? Check this out to make sure. Its all what they freely admit to. Pure evilness.
www.ukmm.org.uk
UK men's movement.
www.kithrup.com/brin/neotenyarticle2.html Females are in control of males, and so ruining the world.
www.misanthropic-bitch.com/death_to_women.html
How women like to be treated, and how they deserve to be treated.

niceguy.dearingfilm.com How one nice guy has been dealing with evil females
www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3951/noback/sex.html
A more archivic essay site. Good for covering a whole range of anti evil female perspectives.

The point really that if women are evil, so men were supposed to girlcott.

Now, I must say it again, all the above are only thoughts, but as for me I believe that this evil thay say, it belongs to all of us anyone can be evil remember that!

I know, some of U don't bite, but if we want to be bitten, U can do that too. Whatever is our pleasure.....lol

Men do bad things to women too, thats true, which causes a lot of pain and grief to those women, which drives these women to grow hatred towards men.

The women that males truly hate, are the stereotypical ones, sterotypical women hate men, for what reason?? who knows and who cares thats not the point. The point is, feminists go associating themselves with those stereotypical women, which is wrong, hating men and turning the tables of oppression against them is not the answer, its just gonna make the battle of the sexes(which shouldnt exist in the first place)escalate to a hostile point. This battle was not created by women and their evilness, it was created by the HUMAN RACE, its called, THE GAME. I have this philosophy, where one should not hate the player but hate the game instead. If us(men and women) take this concept under perspective and decide to take action, we can eliminate the game. The game is really the evil thing, women as well as men contributed to that game, so therefore we are all responsible for the hatred that reigns between men and women. Thats the purpose of the game.

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Jen and all,

For those of you not too inclined with the book of Genesis, there's a little story in there that talks about the creation of both man and woman (Adam and Eve.) Sin did not exist in the world, and both Adam and Eve lived harmoniously together in the Garden of Eden.

Well, in enters Satan. In the guise as a reptile, Satan convinced Eve that the tree would give them power and contained the best fruit in the entire garden. Eve listened to Satan, and also convinced Adam to do the same. They both ate from the tree, and were both punished severely by God. Thus, sin was born on the world, thanks to Satan.

Guys are easily convinced by girls. They can wrap us around their little finger and make us do almost anything they want. Adam knew God would disapprove of him eating from the Tree of Life, but was easily swayed by the power of a woman.

It is a well-known fact that girls will not listen to unintelligentguys. No matter how many times they tell them something, they will refuse to listen or believe them. They are always right when it comes to men. HOWEVER, if one of their intelligent male friends tell them something, which is normally true, they will normally listen and believe. Girls only listen to intelligent people.

Satan is a manipulative man, because Eve listened and did exactly what he told her to do. If Satan had been an intelligent person, then we wouldn't have sin today, because Eve would have never done what Satan told her, and we could live in peace and harmony.

God created man in his own image. Who would have known that he was copying the likeness of Satan when he made thick men?

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So Aduola, as you correctly identified above, women always know exactly what men think, so I just clarified your thoughts for our friends here on ES

Oh nooo, there is more to correct ...

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Originally posted by Adoula
Here is some of the things that men say it is wrong with the views of females today.

1- Menwho don't want to help women, in any way.
2- Menwho have a hugely overblown ego. They think they are sooo bloody amazing, just because they are male.
3- Menwho are very self obsessive. They are more likely to be in love with themself than with a women.
4- Men who are incredibly insensitive to females. They want to think that because females are female, they have too many feelings about "female only" situations. And that females probably have too many feelings about any situation anyhow!
5- Males who love to state. They hate to learn. They love to make up lies. But they hate to listen.
6- Males who think it is just perfect to disrespect for no reason. They make it into an artform, they make it into an INDUSTRY. There are greeting cards telling males how useless blondes are.

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So many typing mistakes, Adoula, really not used to that from you

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Originally posted by Adoula
Now, I must say it again, all the above are only thoughts, but as for me I believe that this evil thay say, it belongs to all of us anyone can be evil remember that!

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... apart from women, you forgot to say ...

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Originally posted by Adoula
I know, some of U don't bite, but if we want to be bitten, U can do that too. Whatever is our pleasure.....lol

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... and ours ... lol

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Originally posted by Adoula
Men do bad things to women too, thats true, which causes a lot of pain and grief to those women, which drives these women to grow hatred towards men.

The women that males truly hate, are the stereotypical ones, sterotypical women hate men, for what reason?? who knows and who cares thats not the point. The point is, feminists go associating themselves with those stereotypical women, which is wrong, hating men and turning the tables of oppression against them is not the answer, its just gonna make the battle of the sexes(which shouldnt exist in the first place)escalate to a hostile point. This battle was not created by women and their evilness, it was created by the HUMAN RACE, its called, THE GAME. I have this philosophy, where one should not hate the player but hate the game instead. If us(men and women) take this concept under perspective and decide to take action, we can eliminate the game. The game is really the evil thing, women as well as men contributed to that game, so therefore we are all responsible for the hatred that reigns between men and women. Thats the purpose of the game.
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hee hee, we are all very proud of msjen, she did a great job manipulating my post.

Ok, I have proved my ideas, can you prove that men are just as evil?

If not:

I must agree that women are indeed evil but men are happy to accommodate them..lol

This is really great, I am sure adoula wants to say these so I am sure he will thank you for helping him to get the truths in himself

I have found a list and enjoyed so much so would like to share with you...

1. We can stand to be wrong, while men make about excuses ''misunderstanding'' and some how it is always the women's fault.
2. When we see a ''caution'' sign, they carefully avoid it, while men assume that it was meant for someone else, and come home with every bone broken.
3. We characterize the first date, by seeing how you act and eat. Men check to see if you can name at least one football, basketball or baseball star.
4. We understand about privacy, and won't come in the room until 2 hours have passed.
5. We absently hum tunes from musicals without anyone being suspect of our sexuality.
6. We can use cosmetics should we wake up looking like something the cat dragged in.
7. We can wear platforms - which is why there is no such thing as a short woman's complex.
8. We don't have to get our strength up between sessions... and it's much easier for us to get laid in the first place.
9. We can get off with teenagers without being called dirty old perverts.
10. We never ejaculate prematurely.

I can continue sending more if you like them ...

Take care all,

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Originally posted by msjen:
Dear women readers, please see below what Adoula REALLY wanted to write (just edited his quote, so don't get confused)

Smart theory but if you are posting sensible solutions like that then this thread will no longer provoke people to write something ...

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ahh, jen makes the best funnies. Wise?

hee hee, we are all very proud of msjen, she did a great job manipulating my post.

Ok, I have proved my ideas, can you prove that men are just as evil?

If not:

I must agree that women are indeed evil but men are happy to accommodate them..lol

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In fact, I can prove to you that the most evil creature on this planet is a man. Please go to http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushlordrings.htm

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Originally posted by msjen:
In fact, I can prove to you that the most evil creature on this planet is a man. Please go to http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushlordrings.htm

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Do you ever wonder what gets women to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on beauty items and services?

Why they do the things they do? One possible reason that they do all this stuff is probably caused by their feeling that they are evil, and want to hide behind such things.

Another theory that can also be said is that they spend all our money because they are brainwashed. They are programmed to do so, then one day women could take over the world!!!!! How are they programmed, though transmitters, they call them "hairdryers". This is probably the main reason that they come to salon.

So we males must united and take these thing and burn them down, take the metal from the evil machines, and build go karts!! This is the only way to stop them!!

To Fanta,

Here is what men say about women:
Please, never call them evil! You should treat them with a great respect.

I used to think girls were evil, until I woke up and saw the truth..

Yes women are evil. You should wear garlic around your neck to repel them. Well, some of us might not need garlic, but wear it just in case.

But always remeber my saying:
A little evil in a woman adds spice...lol

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Do you ever wonder what gets women to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on beauty items and services?

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LOL... it seems you know only very ugly women I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on these things, I'm pretty enough without them

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How are they programmed, though transmitters, they call them "hairdryers". This is probably the main reason that they come to salon.

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No... actually we go there to discuss secret strategies against the innocent and helpless men...

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Yes women are evil. You should wear garlic around your neck to repel them.

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Ooh! You discovered the truth about us: that we are not only evil but vampires!!! You should have kept it in secret! Now you can't escape our revenge!

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Originally posted by Aaliyah:
Ooh! You discovered the truth about us: that we are not only evil but vampires!!! You should have kept it in secret! Now you can't escape our revenge!

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Well,
I still agree with Mr. Brister who said:
"Too be fair, I must admit that all women are not evil. Some are evil, some are wicked, some are hellishly evil, and some are the grand puba of all that is extemporaneously evil. So, some women are not evil, they are just worse."

If U remember:
St. Paul wrote a letter to a young Christian, and said that the root of all evil is the love of money.

And St. Adel would like to say that the root of all evil is the women.

And I know it well, if God had not created women, Hell would be empty. Harsh? Maybe. True? Of course it is! Then again, if God had not created women, none of us would be here. But that's beside the point, which is: Women are not only the ROOT of all evil--they are the trunk, limbs, and leaves as well.

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Originally posted by fantachero:
Jen,

This is really great, I am sure adoula wants to say these so I am sure he will thank you for helping him to get the truths in himself

I have found a list and enjoyed so much so would like to share with you...

1. We can stand to be wrong, while men make about excuses ''misunderstanding'' and some how it is always the women's fault.
2. When we see a ''caution'' sign, they carefully avoid it, while men assume that it was meant for someone else, and come home with every bone broken.
3. We characterize the first date, by seeing how you act and eat. Men check to see if you can name at least one football, basketball or baseball star.
4. We understand about privacy, and won't come in the room until 2 hours have passed.
5. We absently hum tunes from musicals without anyone being suspect of our sexuality.
6. We can use cosmetics should we wake up looking like something the cat dragged in.
7. We can wear platforms - which is why there is no such thing as a short woman's complex.
8. We don't have to get our strength up between sessions... and it's much easier for us to get laid in the first place.
9. We can get off with teenagers without being called dirty old perverts.
10. We never ejaculate prematurely.

I can continue sending more if you like them ...

Take care all,

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Hi Fanta,
It seems that U still alive, and this garlic was not effective enough....lol

Anyway, In a perfect world, some women may do what U mentioned above, but tell me who is doing the below things to drive men crazy?

1. ACTING SWEET TO GET A MAN, THEN CHANGING
2. NOT GIVING ENOUGH SPACE
3. WANTING TOO MANY THINGS
4. NOT SAYING WHAT SHE MEANS
5. THE THREE B'S OF SEX
(Bad, Boring, Boudoir battle )
6. CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT OTHER MEN
7. BEING A DRAMA QUEEN
8. BEING HARD AND COLD
9. ENGAGING IN A POWER STRUGGLE

Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?

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Originally posted by Adoula:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?

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I must owe you a thanks because I am alive maybe just because of garlic, it protect me from flu and from evil men

About the items you have listed, I again dont agree with you because they are all done by men to make women crazy also. Personally none of them describe me at least. I still believe that we cant generalize that all these are the characteristic of either a women or men.

Shortly there are bad and goods in both gender and it seems that you met with the bad ones till now

Take care,

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Fanta,
It seems that U still alive, and this garlic was not effective enough....lol

Anyway, In a perfect world, some women may do what U mentioned above, but tell me who is doing the below things to drive men crazy?

1. ACTING SWEET TO GET A MAN, THEN CHANGING
2. NOT GIVING ENOUGH SPACE
3. WANTING TOO MANY THINGS
4. NOT SAYING WHAT SHE MEANS
5. THE THREE B'S OF SEX
(Bad, Boring, Boudoir battle )
6. CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT OTHER MEN
7. BEING A DRAMA QUEEN
8. BEING HARD AND COLD
9. ENGAGING IN A POWER STRUGGLE

Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Adoula:

Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?

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Originally posted by Aaliyah:
Awww, these Bush pics are hilarious...

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Originally posted by Adoula:
To Jen,
Um, right. But women is still very evil.

Do you ever wonder what gets women to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on beauty items and services?

Why they do the things they do? One possible reason that they do all this stuff is probably caused by their feeling that they are evil, and want to hide behind such things.

Another theory that can also be said is that they spend all our money because they are brainwashed. They are programmed to do so, then one day women could take over the world!!!!! How are they programmed, though transmitters, they call them "hairdryers". This is probably the main reason that they come to salon.

So we males must united and take these thing and burn them down, take the metal from the evil machines, and build go karts!! This is the only way to stop them!!

To Fanta,

Here is what men say about women:
Please, never call them evil! You should treat them with a great respect.

I used to think girls were evil, until I woke up and saw the truth..

Yes women are evil. You should wear garlic around your neck to repel them. Well, some of us might not need garlic, but wear it just in case.

But always remeber my saying:
A little evil in a woman adds spice...lol

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Well, well, dear Adoula, lets see who spends more money on useless items

Women wear make-up as we have a sense of aesthetics and we simply call it being well-groomed. By the way, there are many men who also buy moisturisers, perfume, spend lots of money on haircuts etc (men are the fastest growing market in make-up industry, I think).
Oh and you accuse us of spending all your money on this ! ok, point taken, but do you not also prefer a well-groomed woman to a sloppy one ???

Oh and by the way we don't hide behind make-up, we enhance our features!!!

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Fanta,
It seems that U still alive, and this garlic was not effective enough....lol

Anyway, In a perfect world, some women may do what U mentioned above, but tell me who is doing the below things to drive men crazy?

1. ACTING SWEET TO GET A MAN, THEN CHANGING
2. NOT GIVING ENOUGH SPACE
3. WANTING TOO MANY THINGS
4. NOT SAYING WHAT SHE MEANS
5. THE THREE B'S OF SEX
(Bad, Boring, Boudoir battle )
6. CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT OTHER MEN
7. BEING A DRAMA QUEEN
8. BEING HARD AND COLD
9. ENGAGING IN A POWER STRUGGLE

Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?

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Dear All

Once again, I must apologise for Adoula's spelling mistakes. He means, of yourse, that the above points refer to MEN not WOMEN! Adoula we must really practise this

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Well,
I still agree with Mr. Brister who said:
"Too be fair, I must admit that all women are not evil. Some are evil, some are wicked, some are hellishly evil, and some are the grand puba of all that is extemporaneously evil. So, some women are not evil, they are just worse."

If U remember:
St. Paul wrote a letter to a young Christian, and said that the root of all evil is the love of money.

And St. Adel would like to say that the root of all evil is the women.

And I know it well, if God had not created women, Hell would be empty. Harsh? Maybe. True? Of course it is! Then again, if God had not created women, none of us would be here. But that's beside the point, which is: Women are not only the ROOT of all evil--they are the trunk, limbs, and leaves as well.

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Dearest friend

best wishes,

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Originally posted by msjen:
Well, well, dear Adoula, lets see who spends more money on useless items

Women wear make-up as we have a sense of aesthetics and we simply call it being well-groomed. By the way, there are many men who also buy moisturisers, perfume, spend lots of money on haircuts etc (men are the fastest growing market in make-up industry, I think).
Oh and you accuse us of spending all your money on this ! ok, point taken, but do you not also prefer a well-groomed woman to a sloppy one ???

Oh and by the way we don't hide behind make-up, we enhance our features!!!

However if you look at how men spend their money (ie cars) i would suggest that our spending patterns are friendlier to our environment than yours!!!

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Originally posted by msjen:
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Oh and by the way we don't hide behind make-up, we enhance our features!!!
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Ok Jen,
They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so those eyes need to be full of light. You can wear eye makeup but it won't hide bitterness. You gotta work on the inside if you want a man to see your beauty.

Men are moved by what they see and women are moved by what they hear. However, within the context of that, I think U've all been led to believe that all men want a size-two woman with six-pack abs. That's not necessarily true.

What a man wants is a healthy woman who enjoys her body and likes herself. From there the size can vary. But if she is embarrassed by her body, that is what he does not like.

Remember that a man's heart is shaped just like God's and it seeks honor, respect, praise, and encouragement. The woman is basically the period on the end of a man's sentence. The finisher.

Remember that behind the heart of every man is a little boy waiting to be nurtured. Also, remember to listen. They want to know they've been heard just as women do.

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Originally posted by Adoula:

Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?

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Originally posted by msjen:
...WAIT FOR THE REVENGE FOR THESE ACCUSATIONS!!!

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Huhhhhh does that mean i got a little bit carried away earlier on today? hope that doesn't mean i'm EVIL now ...

To all women, here you go, a man's words made me evil. Now look at it objectively and tell me who is the SOURCE of all evil!!!

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Originally posted by fantachero:
Hi jen,
As always I agree with you,I see lots of men recently spending the same amount(maybe more than me)for cosmetics and hair cuts and even image makers
We must add computer tools, mobiles, car materials etc.to men shopping list which they are all interested.

best wishes,

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Jen,
They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so those eyes need to be full of light. You can wear eye makeup but it won't hide bitterness. You gotta work on the inside if you want a man to see your beauty.

Men are moved by what they see and women are moved by what they hear. However, within the context of that, I think U've all been led to believe that all men want a size-two woman with six-pack abs. That's not necessarily true.

What a man wants is a healthy woman who enjoys her body and likes herself. From there the size can vary. But if she is embarrassed by her body, that is what he does not like.

Remember that a man's heart is shaped just like God's and it seeks honor, respect, praise, and encouragement. The woman is basically the period on the end of a man's sentence. The finisher.

Remember that behind the heart of every man is a little boy waiting to be nurtured. Also, remember to listen. They want to know they've been heard just as women do.

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Originally posted by Jamilah:
Nice guys are not single nice guys usually are attracted by bastard women and vice versa

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The things you said are too good to be true. Wish all men are such but unfortunately as far as I can see these types you describe are in fairy tale stories or in the soap operas.

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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Jen,
They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so those eyes need to be full of light. You can wear eye makeup but it won't hide bitterness. You gotta work on the inside if you want a man to see your beauty.

Men are moved by what they see and women are moved by what they hear. However, within the context of that, I think U've all been led to believe that all men want a size-two woman with six-pack abs. That's not necessarily true.

What a man wants is a healthy woman who enjoys her body and likes herself. From there the size can vary. But if she is embarrassed by her body, that is what he does not like.

Remember that a man's heart is shaped just like God's and it seeks honor, respect, praise, and encouragement. The woman is basically the period on the end of a man's sentence. The finisher.

Remember that behind the heart of every man is a little boy waiting to be nurtured. Also, remember to listen. They want to know they've been heard just as women do.

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What did Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him say?

Sahih Bukhari, The book of Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28:

The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you."

Prophet Muhammad was very specific about why many women will end up in hell. The reason is because many women don't appreciate their husbands!. How good is a woman who doesn't appreciate her husband, and doesn't care about him enough, that if he does something bad to her, then she'll remember it for him for the rest of her life? How good is a woman who doesn't remember much of the good that her husband does for her?

Women of that kind are not accepted in Islam. Women in Islam must honor their husbands and seek with their best ability their comfort. A woman who doesn't appreciate her husband is in reality treating him as a working slave for her and for their kids.

Those are the Evil women.

When asked to further describe Yin (evil), the explanation comes:"The Yin is the negative
force in nature. It is seen in darkness, coolness, FEMALENESS, dampness, the earth, moon and the shadows. The Yang (good) is the positive force in nature. It is seen in lightness, warmness, MALENESS, dryness and the sun. (Hopfe 207)."

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Originally posted by fantachero:
Adoula,

The things you said are too good to be true. Wish all men are such but unfortunately as far as I can see these types you describe are in fairy tale stories or in the soap operas.

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