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The new ruling orders the removal of the names of both Mubarak and his wife Suzanne from all squares, streets and institutions across the nation.

http://rssmasr.com/en/govt-considers-changing-name-of-mubarak-metro-station/

Video showing removal of a name plate in Mubarak metro station (which is the one under Ramses train station and one of the two existing interchanges between the two metro lines, the other being Sadat which is under Tahrir).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jv2XHKEzOE

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So new names will be Naguib Mahfouz, Ahmed Zaki variety or Akhentan, Snerfu variety, personally prefer the later.
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quote:
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So new names will be Naguib Mahfouz, Ahmed Zaki variety or Akhentan, Snerfu variety, personally prefer the later.

If people stop seeing the name "Mubarak" then the spell they've been under for the last 30 years will break.
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I was on the metro today and in the carriages I was in, the name of the station had been scratched out on the line maps.

Wonder what they will change it to - may as well make it Ramses as it is right under Ramses station.

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Arab leaders assuming power have a tendency for changing names, images on currencies, etc. So to some degree this would have been inevitable even if Mubarak left honorably. An example is Mubarak regime changing the name of Midan Sphinx to Naguib Mahfouz, opting for a name change rather than naming a new square after him. Nasser changed numerous street names mostly Khedive/Royalty names to Egyptian nationalist names (e.g Sulayman Pasha became Talaat al-Harb), Arab country names (e.g Sudan, Syria, Iraq, etc), and lets not forget Midan Ismailiya changed to Midan Tahrir. One good change by him was Masr-al-Qadeema street to Corniche el-Nile, then again it may have been under Farouk I.

They go about as if they own the country. Midan Sphinx to Naguib Mahfouz is IMHO the worst name change. I mean come on from an eternal icon to a man who is well on his way to being a has-been. No offence to Mahfouz but Spinhx was much cooler. While I'm ranting, I also think that the stations along the entire metro line should have been named about Pharoahs. Now that would have been something, but these clowns want to show appreciation to their homies. [Big Grin]

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I will be rather sad to see the humungous picture of Muibarak, close to the oil refinery near Alex, removed.
It always made me laugh, he was wearing shades, a tight italian style suit, and looked a lot like Tony Soprano.[you could sell spaghetti sauce with that picture!]
Maybe they could keep just that one, to remind people that if your leader looks like a mob boss, he probably is.

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quote:
Originally posted by Exiiled:
Arab leaders assuming power have a tendency for changing names, images on currencies, etc. [Big Grin]

I thought it was more of an Egyptian thing, since ye olden days! A case in point is poor Hatshepsut. After she died (or deposed or whatever), the bugger who took over after her apparantly removed her name from all over the place. So there you go.
It's also the same reason you don't find anything having the name Farouk in it, who was the last ruling king of Egypt. But it seems people have their way to keep the old names. For example in Alex, one of the main streets in the city centre is known as Rue Fouad, even though it's official name is different (can't even remember the official name, might be Horreya st or something).
Similarly you have Port Said, Port Fouad, Ismailya (square and city), Tawfiqya (I think a main irrigation canal), etc. All those names belong to the Mohammad Aly dynasty.

So, whether we like it or not (in this case not!), Mubarak is part of Egypt's history. He's already written in the book, can't remove him. We can pull a Hatshepsut on him, but it won't make a difference in the books. The effect is more on the contemprories, i.e. you and me and Dupree! But history won't be affected.

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What annoys me is that these name changes are not done on a municipal level. Town-meetings and actual residents of the neighborhoods voting for a name change.

As for it being an Egyptian thing [Big Grin] They have nothing over Arab royalty, that breed literally changes the names their father's and mother's chose to their own choice. Often changing the names of their own parents to theirs. This extend to more than just streets.

At the end of the day - it just confuses people.

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The Soviet Union used to be pretty good at that too!

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/photography/hoax.htm

"The physical eradication of Stalin's political opponents at the hands of the secret police was swiftly followed by their obliteration from all forms of pictorial existence," writes David King in his pictorial history, The Commissar Vanishes."

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اعتصم العشرات من عمال الأمن الصناعي بشركة مترو أنفاق القاهرة صباح الأربعاء بالصالة الرئيسية لمحطة الشهداء –مبارك سابقا- احتجاجا على ما وصفوه بمحاولات إدارة الشركة تفريغ قطاع الأمن الصناعي وإنهاء مهامه وتكليفهم بأعمال أخرى غير مختصين بها.

وأكد العمال للدستور الأصلي أن في الفترة الأخيرة طالبت إدارة المترو العمال بالوقوف عند رأس كل قطار حاملين أعلاما خضراء لتسيير حركة القطار وهذه المهام تختلف عن عملهم الأساسي بالمترو والذي يتلخص في مراقبة وملاحظة كل ما يعرض سلامة وأمن الركاب والمحطات للخطر.

ورفع العمال لافتات كتبوا عليها "حماية الركاب وأمنهم وظيفتنا الأولى"، ولا يزال العمال معتصمين بالمحطة حتى الآن وتحاول إدارة المترو إرسال عدد من قيادتها للتفاوض مع العمال لفض الاعتصام.


http://www.dostor.org/society-and-people/variety/11/may/11/41798

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Hah, they can erase his name from every street and building, from every book whatsorever but Mubarak is part of Egyptian history - and therefore he can't and won't be forgotten. They sooner they realize the past is past and the future is now in their hands the better (although as I see it Egyptians can't agree on which path and without a doubt - it's gonna get more ugly).
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For those of you living in cairo, I renamed a few of the streets myself with my spray paint!
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How about Sh. M. Pascha Hassan?

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De-Mubarakisation drive hits Egypt films


By Mohssen Arishie - The Egyptian Gazette
Monday, May 23, 2011 01:52:33 PM


CAIRO - A heated dispute has erupted in Egypt’s filmmaking community over a call to obscure the image of toppled president Hosni Mubarak, whenever it appears in local films.

Mubarak’s detractors want videos, depicting him and his wife sitting in concerts marking national events, removed from the Egyptian TV archives.
They have reminded their opponents that something similar happened immediately after the 1952 revolution, when the Army officers who had seized power destroyed the image of the ousted king Farouq, as it appeared in black-and-white films produced under the monarchy.
But film critic Moustafa Darwish does not approve the latest suggestion, warning that only dictatorial regimes, like that of the old Soviet Union under Stalin, often try to erase the past of their nations.
“Whether we like it or not, the images of Mubarak in films do tell us something important about Egypt’s modern history. If we delete them, we might be accused of counterfeiting our history,” he explains.
Filmmaker Nader Galal agrees. Although he was the first to call for the removal of the portraits of Mubarak in governmental offices and other public places, he says this shouldn’t be the case with films and television serials.
“The images of the former president draw the viewer’s attention to a particular period in the nation’s history,” Galal explains, adding that this will be of benefit to future generations. “That’s why the late king Farouq was the focus of a recent TV biopic.”
He describes the removal of portraits of king Farouq in films under late president Gamal Abdel Nasser as a ‘scandal’.
“If we’re really going to remove Mubarak’s image, then why not listen to the Salafists’ suggestion to destroy the Great Pyramids?!
“Salafists say that the Ancient Egyptians were kafir [non-believers]. So we should therefore destroy the shrines they built!” he adds ironically.
Further irony is provided by veteran film critic Tareq el-Shenawi, who says that Ancient Egyptian kings used to destroy the names, drawings and achievements of their predecessors.
“But of course we shouldn’t get rid of the visual record of the nation’s memory,” el-Shenawi says.
Last month, an Egyptian court ordered the names of Mubarak and his wife, Suzanne, be removed from public institutions and squares.


http://213.158.162.45/~egyptian/index.php?action=news&id=18459&title=De-Mubarakisation drive hits Egypt films


Laughable.

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Azerbaijan removes statue of Mubarak

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In this Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2011, file photo a monument to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is seen in the town of Khyrdalan outside the capital Baku, Azerbaijan. AP photo

In this Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2011, file photo a monument to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is seen in the town of Khyrdalan outside the capital Baku, Azerbaijan. AP photo
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Authorities in Azerbaijan have heeded opposition calls to dismantle a statue of ousted Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, according to reports.

Wary of any association with Mubarak's disgraced regime, authorities ordered the statue to be removed late on Tuesday from its spot in Khyrdalan, a small town just outside the capital, Baku.

The four-year-old statue, one of the rare tributes to Mubarak outside Egypt, was replaced by a rather crude depiction of a cross-legged Egyptian scribe.

A school in Khyrdalan named after Mubarak's wife Suzanna was also re-dubbed "Egyptian school."

Whether President İlham Aliyev has anything to do with the town's "de-Mubarakization" remains unclear. A local official, Fikrat Orujov, said only the statue was dismantled to reflect the change of leadership in Egypt, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reports.

The statue, which was erected in 2007 in the Egypt-Azerbaijan Friendship Park, had become somewhat of a liability in the wake of Egypt's pro-democracy revolt.

Mubarak’s real fall

Just days before Mubarak was ousted in February, a group of Azerbaijani youth activists gathered at the monument to voice their solidarity with Egyptian protesters. The activists, however, quickly turned their fire on Aliyev's regime before being disbanded by police.

Police have since guarded both the statue and the school.

Mass protests led to Egyptian dictator Mubarak abandoning his post after 30 years of rule. A military man, Mubarak had risen to the post of president after his predecessor, Anwar Sadat, was assassinated. The mass uprising that led to his demise followed after a similar uprising was sparked in Tunisia over poor economic conditions, lack of freedoms, and a civil society in shambles.

The revolts in Tunisia and Egypt led some in Azerbaijan to organize antigovernment protests. Using similar tactics as opposition members in Egypt, like social media tools Facebook and Twitter, several demonstrations have been held criticizing government policies in Baku since February. Authorities have been quick to crack down on organizers, with some charged for unrelated offenses such as drug possession.

Developing ties

Azerbaijan and Egypt have tried in recent years to develop closer ties. The two countries set up an intergovernmental commission on economic, scientific and cultural cooperation in 2005. The commission, which has met since then irregularly, intended to develop mutual investment between the countries.

But Khyrdalan residents did not appear overly distressed upon finding their local Mubarak toppled from his pedestal.

"It's just a statue," an elderly man told RFE/RL's Azerbaijani Service at the site. "There are thousands of statues in the world. Who cares about it? It doesn't really matter who this statue represents."

Many residents of Belgrade may share those feelings, as a statue of President Aliyev's father, Heydar Aliyev, was scheduled to be unveiled in the Serbian capital on Wednesday.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=azerbaijan-removes-statue-of-mubarak-2011-06-09

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Adly Hussien demands to remove Aliyev statue


Saturday Jun 11, 2011 - 11:33

By KHALED HEGAZI - Translated by BISHOY RAMZY REYAD


Counselor Adly Hussien demanded to remove the statue of the president of Azerbaijan, Heydar Aliyev, from Qanater garden in Egypt as a response to the Azerbaijani president's decision to remove Mubarak’s statue from Absheron's garden in Azerbaijan.

Adly Hussien is the former governor of Qaliubiya and considers the Azerbaijani action as a violation of diplomatic norms. He said the initiative started with Azerbaijan during a visit of Azerbaijani president to Egypt in 2007.

He said the visit witnessed the signings of many documents, among which a memo of understanding between the Egyptian governorate, Qaliubiya, and the Azerbaijani governorate, Absheron. The understanding led to building a garden representing the Egyptian-Azerbaijani friendship in Absheron, in which the statue of Mubarak was erected.

Hussien said they also established Suzanne Mubarak School to teach the Arabic language. The former governor added Egypt worked on Azerbaijani-Egyptian friendship garden in Qaliubiya and witnessed the erection of a statue Azerbaijani president, Aliyev.

In 2009 Egypt named an experimental school for languages after the Azerbaijani first lady, Mehraban Aliyev. The school is in Obour and considered one of the cities of the second generation.

In the school, Egypt specialized an area to highlight the activities of the Azerbaijani’s first lady. On October 3, the head of the executive authority and Azerbaijani Ambassador attended the opening of the area.


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