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Now there was me thinking she hadn't taken her meds and she is just drunk, tsh tsh I should have realised.

Hello [Big Grin] Green [Big Grin] Sono

I'm happy you are not.

You can say what you like and Ayisha has already shown you the lack of logic in the crap you talk but that is the real problem isn't it.

You haven't got a career, never had.
You haven't got a daughter, never had
You haven't got property, never had
You haven't got a future, never had
You aren't happy, never have been, never will be

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] Sono is green

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Now I can totally agree on all of that!!!!

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quote:
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There's no tax on property as of yet. The law that was introduced is in limbo. The tax she would pay would be on income generated from the properties as with any other business.
No one in Egypt pays taxes as they should. Not Akshar and not the vast majority of Egyptians. Everyone justifies it in their own way, "I have a large family to feed" [Roll Eyes] Feeding them what exactly.
"What do you do with all the gold?"

My in-laws do pay property tax, and this time around (every 10 years) they paid taxes on the three flats they have in Alex but somehow didn't have to pay taxes on the flat in Cairo.

But the family home in Shebin and the two family villas were taxed accordingly.

The family rented out two of the flats and had to pay income taxes on the revenue generated from rent.

So its possible, but I doubt akshar could understand what she was paying when Mahmoud asked for money to pay the property tax, therefore there is a good chance he just pocketed it. Like everything else. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by akshar:
Now there was me thinking she hadn't taken her meds and she is just drunk, tsh tsh I should have realised.

Hello [Big Grin] Green [Big Grin] Sono

I'm happy you are not.

You can say what you like and Ayisha has already shown you the lack of logic in the crap you talk but that is the real problem isn't it.

You haven't got a career, never had.
You haven't got a daughter, never had
You haven't got property, never had
You haven't got a future, never had
You aren't happy, never have been, never will be

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] Sono is green

And yet you fail to refute what I had stated about the "equality" in your so-called marriage.

Akshar you finished high school and a few tech courses, I finished an associates degree and a bachelors degree.

akshar your career as a data entry specialist, and a PR person for an organization which under your management was audited and fined by the inland revenue service.

I've had a variety of positions and have managed not to be audited nor fined by a federal entity. Hell I have managed to work in offices for most of the last decade.

Not drinking, not at all actually its been over a year since I had anything and before it was a few times a month at most; normally a few times a year. No one has had to purge my home of booze, while Mahmoud only enters your home to toss out booze.

As for property I don't own any, nor have I given life insurance payout, and equity from a legally owned home to cover the costs of building illegally and not being able to obtain a document of property ownership. Thats your specailty.

As for my kid thats none of your business, I don't really like to criticize but you had failed to school your child in an accredited international school like I have. Ameria I think her name is, spent less than two years in a Coptic school. Ameria isn't literate in Arabic, and possibly she can speak enough to translate for you but not enough to keep up in her academic work in classes taught entirely in Arabic.

Mahmoud refused to spend the money to send Ameria to a proper school for foreigners. Yet me and my ex husband manage to do exactly that.

We also wouldn't send her to live along in a nation without financially supporting her. Ameria moved back to the UK and I highly doubt Mahmoud who refused to send her to an international school with classes taught in English would allow you to send a 16 year old girl money. Even if she is your daughter.

You are not resorting to fake charity work (funds you pocket), and this e-book scheme; because your flats cannot keep enough tourists coming to provide income. I highly doubt Ameria gets help from you or your estranged family in the UK.

As for happiness its usually the person who goes on and on about happiness as a fascade, which in fact is not happy.

I don't have to boast or parade about envious parts of my life; because I am too busy living life.

As for happy, your first husband didn't have a work permit, didn't earn money and you were forced to provide for the family single-handledly. You complained up a storm on ES and noted it was a relief when your husband Ayman died.

I can't imagine supporting Mahmoud single-handedly again while he ignores you and populates Luxor with his first wife is going to make you any happier.

Things for me could be better, I've had to forget certain goals and rethink my life strategy.

But I have options, far more resources, and I am alot younger.

You are out of options, have far less resources and are in poor health subsequently look 15 years older than you are.

Unless those flats bring in income, Mahmoud doesn't have any use for you.

Worse when the tourist come back the local Governor could chose to confiscate property that was illegally built upon and then redistribute it to his cronies. Your flats would be a prime target for confiscation.

At least I have really nothing to lose and I don't have your track record for provoking the authorities.

Anyhow you can view it as jealousy, but not too many women out there want your life.

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Still trying green [Big Grin] Sono

How's the job?
How's the daughter?
How's the career?
How's the house?
How's the future?

poor green [Big Grin] Sono

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quote:
Originally posted by tigerlily_misr:
Now I can totally agree on all of that!!!!
[Big Grin]

A loser is someone who lies about all aspects of their lives and has created a fantasy past that never existed.

Still waiting for some proof, as in a photo of you in Egypt. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by akshar:
Still trying green [Big Grin] Sono

How's the job?
How's the daughter?
How's the career?
How's the house?
How's the future?

poor green [Big Grin] Sono

akshar normally wouldn't pull a hobbit act quite like Ayisha continually does.

But you seem unhinged, and thats normally Ayisha's role.

It has to be getting really bad in luxor and the tourism industry in order for you to immitate ayisha.

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I know what you mean.. maybe it will improve something.
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thanks for the compliment Sono

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quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:
quote:
Originally posted by tigerlily_misr:
Now I can totally agree on all of that!!!!
[Big Grin]

A loser is someone who lies about all aspects of their lives and has created a fantasy past that never existed.

Still waiting for some proof, as in a photo of you in Egypt. [Roll Eyes]

A loser is someone who has to make up lies about someone elses life while continually insisting it's fact and continually accusing the person of lying about their life. = you
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quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:

As for my kid thats none of your business,

why do you assume anything about Jane's life is your business?


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I don't really like to criticize but
really? ROFL [Big Grin]

quote:
Ameria isn't literate in Arabic, and possibly she can speak enough to translate for you but not enough to keep up in her academic work in classes taught entirely in Arabic.
I chose this part among many contestants in this post as the most ROFL winner, hilarious. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


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We also wouldn't send her to live along in a nation without financially supporting her. Ameria moved back to the UK and I highly doubt Mahmoud who refused to send her to an international school with classes taught in English would allow you to send a 16 year old girl money. Even if she is your daughter.
difference here is, your kid was less than 1 year old when you dumped her, Jane's was an adult when she went back t UK


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As for happiness its usually the person who goes on and on about happiness as a fascade, which in fact is not happy.
YOU go on about how great your life is and invent lives for everyone else to make you feel better about yours. YOU continually tell us how 'attractive' you think you are, YOU bang on about how many jobs, when the number of jobs one has in a short period is not really something good, you can't keep one longer than 6 months. based on your logic, you are not happy.

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I don't have to boast or parade about envious parts of my life; because I am too busy living life.
wrong, you do boast and insist others are lying about theirs when they're not. Just because their truth doesn't match your fantasy you made for them it does not mean they are lying. Nice you said 'envious', proves you are [Big Grin]

can't be arsed to go through the rest of this rubbish.

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quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:
At least I have really nothing to lose

Ayisha you missed this one, for once she told the truth in a post. She confirms what exactly what I said, she actually does have nothing.

[Big Grin] Green [Roll Eyes] Sono [Razz]

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quote:
You haven't got a career, never had.
You haven't got a daughter, never had
You haven't got property, never had
You haven't got a future, never had
You aren't happy, never have been, never will be

Like! Is she still claiming she has a child?!
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quote:
Originally posted by akshar:
quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:
At least I have really nothing to lose

Ayisha you missed this one, for once she told the truth in a post. She confirms what exactly what I said, she actually does have nothing.

[Big Grin] Green [Roll Eyes] Sono [Razz]

she lost anything she did have when she ditched her (possibly fictional) daughter in Egypt so she could slave for 'King Kong' and pay off his debts before he divorced her, and she has the audacity to spout here about anyone else? what a total JOKE [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Oh and a different bed partner a day/week/month does not mean you're attractive, it means you're EASY. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by akshar:
quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:
At least I have really nothing to lose

Ayisha you missed this one, for once she told the truth in a post. She confirms what exactly what I said, she actually does have nothing.

[Big Grin] Green [Roll Eyes] Sono [Razz]

1. You have no money in your own name that you can safeguard.
2. you have no property in your own name you can safeguard from Mahmoud.
3. Your health is failing and you have no surplus savings put away to pay for immense health care fees, thus you are at the mercy of your fake inlaws.
4. If you chose to go back to the UK you'd have to live in one of those welfare estates which are currently in a state of riot.
5. Your vacation flats are not being rented out and there is a good chance the lack of income will demote your status even with your mother-in-law. As a business-wife, if you aren't cranking out income you are worthless.

Imagine going back to the UK after all this time with nothing to show for yourself. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by weirdkitty:
quote:
You haven't got a career, never had.
You haven't got a daughter, never had
You haven't got property, never had
You haven't got a future, never had
You aren't happy, never have been, never will be

Like! Is she still claiming she has a child?!
Yes, a child conceived and born in wedlock. Unlike yours.
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how many times?

1. Your fantasy 'version' that make you feel better, is just that, YOUR fantasy 'version'. You know nothing, nor do you care to know, unless it fits your fantasy 'version', everything else you deem to be a lie. See a shrink.

2. Your husband married you at that time BECAUSE you where pregnant, so even your fantasy 'version' of your own life is just that, YOUR fantasy 'version'. See a shrink.

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nurse nurse she woke up, get the meds

Sono just get your famously well connected in laws to check the property registry in Luxor [Big Grin]

green Sono ain't got nothing [Big Grin]

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quote:
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nurse nurse she woke up, get the meds

Sono just get your famously well connected in laws to check the property registry in Luxor [Big Grin]

green Sono ain't got nothing [Big Grin]

the military and high up government official in laws? they're probably awaiting trial like the rest of the thieving bastages. Bet she's sorry now she boasted about the flats and villas and shops they had in Cairo, Alex etc, bet it's soon to be all gone and put back into the Egyptian people where it belongs! [Wink]
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hhahahhahaha.... are you all normal??? please deal with that in personaly not here..... this subject lose its sense completly because you trying to ....i dont even know what.... so please...now stop.... and discuss to subject....if you like...
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Hello everyone, i thought you can trust Egyptian and just discovered i cannt. I was together with ASHRAF RAMADI, he works at Titanic Beach in Hurghada. I found out he is another gigolo, having sex for money, despite he never asked me to pay him. Has women who buy him expensive presents, he just got a brand new laptop. So here i am heart broken by a cheap with no moral values gigolo
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Obviously you were special to him. He only used other women not you! You should go back to him and get down on it [Big Grin]
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Go and get the laptop and smash it to bits!!!That way it will piss him off!!!

Smash it to piece's in front of him, then give him the middle finger!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Behiragigolo:
Hello everyone, i thought you can trust Egyptian and just discovered i cannt. I was together with ASHRAF RAMADI, he works at Titanic Beach in Hurghada. I found out he is another gigolo, having sex for money, despite he never asked me to pay him. Has women who buy him expensive presents, he just got a brand new laptop. So here i am heart broken by a cheap with no moral values gigolo

Sorry to hear that.... I listen about that kind of men there :-D use for money.... so trust or not...somebody do, somebody don't... but there are that kind of men everywhere...people are ready to do alots for money... so i should start worry now about my Egyptian?? :-)
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And about his laptop.... it will die eventually.... he can maybe have everything.... but only things that can be bought.... he will never feel love and its power... and the most precious things on this world can not be bought... so all of his expensive presents will give him only money.... easy come, easy go...
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what a shame....I've just this evening signed up to be member of this forum.
After reading this post I'm wondering what I've let myself in for. I was hoping to find nice, friendly, helpful people but mostly this is pretty horrific reading. :/

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ahahhhhhah... welcome ana mish....:-)
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For the Western women who have something good to say about their relationships with their Egyptian spouses,fiance's, and boyfriends...Please visit http://fallingforlove.americantalk.net
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Hhehhehe.. i must be fallen down from Mars or something because i have an Egyptian men only for a friend....:-) and good one...everybody here talk about marriage for visa, for a good use of something connected to money...etc. so, tell me one thing... how come my Egyptian still keep talking to me after one year, and he knows that my financial situation is very bad, my country also not grat for living, i have a boyfriend im about to marry.... all of that he knows... and he never across the limit of respect to me... yeah, i must admit, he is a beautifull boy, sharm is something that he really have.... but we never come to point of getting into something more then friendship...
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They can take years it is worth it to them, your life is still so much better than theirs.

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But how can i know that he have or have not interest in me in that way?? more then just friendship....
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Because Egyptians rarely if ever had friendships between members of the opposite sex.

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all you both do is skype. how in the hell can u make mistakes in a relationship when its only web-based.

my lord, whoever invented the internet needs to be shot. its turning humans into asses.

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the reverse question : does An Egyption man trust in a foreign woman?!
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I believe that trust must be mutual
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Yeah, we got that.. trust must be equal in both sides.... other way any kind of relation will not work... I trust him untill he shows me im wrong... simple... and you are right.... he can be asking himself the same question now..." Can i trust a Croatian ???" my answer would be: You can't trust an Egyptian, Croatian, Indian, Russian, American...etc... you trust or not trust just a person that is... it can not be in generaly.. every one of us have its own personality, right?
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..you are right .. but The obvious question: Why do not I trust you ?!!
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and why do not you trust me?!!
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That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...
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quote:
Originally posted by Jeky:
That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...

They are good actors!!
They can sweet talk for sure and they can take their time to reach their goal.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
quote:
Originally posted by akshar:
nurse nurse she woke up, get the meds

Sono just get your famously well connected in laws to check the property registry in Luxor [Big Grin]

green Sono ain't got nothing [Big Grin]

the military and high up government official in laws? they're probably awaiting trial like the rest of the thieving bastages. Bet she's sorry now she boasted about the flats and villas and shops they had in Cairo, Alex etc, bet it's soon to be all gone and put back into the Egyptian people where it belongs! [Wink]
My in-laws are Egyptian you [direct insult removed].

All the properties are still theirs, along with 3 new flats in Shebin, another flat in Cairo/Shubra and a new villa purchased in Aghamy/Alex.

No one's been arrested for anything. Actually two more majors recently retired and a cousin of my Father-in-law was promoted to colonel.

My brother in law the pharmacist is teaching at a university in Sixth of October and a father of a studen of his just gave him a 2 week stay at a villa in sharm el-sheik. My daughter stayed with him and his wife and his two daughters for those two weeks.

Life is good for my family in Egypt!

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quote:
Originally posted by Mimmi:
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Originally posted by Jeky:
That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...

They are good actors!!
They can sweet talk for sure and they can take their time to reach their goal.

you think he have a goal with me?
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quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:


My brother in law the pharmacist is teaching at a university in Sixth of October and a father of a studen of his just gave him a 2 week stay at a villa in sharm el-sheik. My daughter stayed with him and his wife and his two daughters for those two weeks.

Life is good for my family in Egypt!

When will your daughter ever stay with her MOTHER? or even her FATHER for that matter! [Roll Eyes]
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Ayisha, she doesn't have a daughter. Sometimes on my baby forum we will get people lying about pregnancy, children etc, it's an attention seeking thing for the lonely.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
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Originally posted by metinoot:


My brother in law the pharmacist is teaching at a university in Sixth of October and a father of a studen of his just gave him a 2 week stay at a villa in sharm el-sheik. My daughter stayed with him and his wife and his two daughters for those two weeks.

Life is good for my family in Egypt!

When will your daughter ever stay with her MOTHER? or even her FATHER for that matter! [Roll Eyes]
When did your gigolo ever:

1. Pay back the money he took when he opened then closed the cafe?
2. Stay an entire night in the flat with you and not sneak out?
3. Actually pay a bill/expense in regards to your life 'with him' in Luxor?

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quote:
Originally posted by weirdkitty:
Ayisha, she doesn't have a daughter. Sometimes on my baby forum we will get people lying about pregnancy, children etc, it's an attention seeking thing for the lonely.

And whats odd is one of your confidents saved my daughter's photos and reposted them onto ES.

Luckily she crashes her computer often enough and is too stupid to back up her hard-drive.

Anyhow how is this former Orfi love interest of yours settling into life in the UK?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeky:
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Originally posted by Mimmi:
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Originally posted by Jeky:
That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...

They are good actors!!
They can sweet talk for sure and they can take their time to reach their goal.

you think he have a goal with me?
He might think that !
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quote:
Originally posted by metinoot:
When did your gigolo ever:

What gigolo?

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1. Pay back the money he took when he opened then closed the cafe?
what money? You forget that is all in your fantasy sono, I do hope the cafe was huge and shiney though

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2. Stay an entire night in the flat with you and not sneak out?
don't have a gigolo, no room in the bed with me and hubby in it.

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3. Actually pay a bill/expense in regards to your life 'with him' in Luxor?
don't have a life with any gigolo, too busy with hubby.

oh and Mubarak and all the other thieving bastages are Egyptian too, does that mean they have a right to keep all the money they stole from the Egyptian people?

Now why did your ex rush off to Egypt for the sole purpose of getting an ID so he could VOTE while living in US, and in 8 years is it, he wouldn't set foot in the country to see his own daughter?

When did you last see her, when did you last spend any money on her or take her out, or read her a story? WK is right, even THAT is part of your twisted fantasy!

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And whats odd is one of your confidents saved my daughter's photos and reposted them onto ES.

Luckily she crashes her computer often enough and is too stupid to back up her hard-drive.

I have "confidents"? Impressive. I certainly have not seen any pictures of your alleged daughter, and the story you have told us about her and why she is in Egypt is too far fetched to believe. Quite simply, parents would not do that, not in the situation you presented.

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Anyhow how is this former Orfi love interest of yours settling into life in the UK?
Is that meant to be an insult? I have made no secret that we had an orfi first. I have no regrets about it either, I would in fact urge ALL western women who want to get to know an egyptian to get an orfi to be able to get to know each other as best as possible before marriage, it is just good sense IMO.
And yes he is settling in very well, having stayed here before for more than half a year it wasn't hard. Back from work at 5 every day, and the most devoted hands on dad I have ever seen.
So when was the last time your EX husband went to visit your alleged daughter, who he sacrificed as his want for a green card was above her? And who he still hasn't got back because he cannot be bothered.
Must be hard to know that if your story is true, then you were used in the same way you accuse other people of being.

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