You wrote:
"The True word for 'Israel' is [Q2:D4] and it was reported hundreds of times and even in the Pyramid Texts but they NEVER saw it!"

I have been doing some research on this and have some things that I want to show you.

First, In Budge's AE dictionary he shows [Q2] as [sect.XVI #4,5,6,7] and gives a phonetic value of 'us'[G43:S29]. He shows [D4] as [sect.IV #8] and gives a phonetic value of 'år'. In putting the two together (usår) I immediately thought of Åsar (Osirus). In searching through the names for the many forms of Åsar I found something quite interesting. An entry on pg 87a reads 'Asar Nesu-båt' and shows two sets of glyphs. The second of the two is [M23:X1-L2:X1-V10:Q2-D4].As you know this says' The king of the South and the North, Åsar. There is also another entry on the p87a which Budge gives the name of another form of Åsar (Åsar-Khas).

As you mentioned [Q2:D4] appears hundreds of times and even in the pyramid texts. So I figured they might also appear in 'The Book of the Dead' as transcribed and translated by Budge from the 'Papyrus of Ani'.

[Q2:D4] appears dozens of times throughout the chapters of this book, in which Budge gives the menaing of these signs as 'Osirus'(Åsar). Some appearing directly in front of Ani's name and title(As you know it is believed that the deceased was refered to as 'Osirus', or 'the Osirus' linking him to the God Osirus). However, There are a number of times that [Q2:D4] appears in reference to the god Osirus (Åsar).

I was wondering if you have a copy of this text? If so I would like to give you a number of examples and hope that you can judge them. From what I have found I don't see how [Q2:D4] can refer to 'Israel', but perhaps you have already done this and this is how you came to your conclusion of the meaning of these signs. Please let me know.

Thank you

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Nesu.t-bi.t neb-taui Neb-Maa't-Re sa-Re Amen-hotep

Welcome back. It is good to here that everything is ok.

I'm sure you have much catching up to do, but if you get a chance can please respond to the previous post.

Thank you,
Neb

The phonetic values of Ancient Egyptian glyphs came from the corresponding slang Egyptian words that describe those glyphs. In our case here [Q2] depicts a sleeping 'bed' which has the Egyptian slang word 'serir'. From here AE's offered it the phonetic value 'sr'. Every bilateral Egyptian value has also a specified meaning in the Egyptian language that may no relation to the formal Arabic which is also Ancient Egyptian. In this case the Egyptian value 'sr' means 'secret' in English and it is also a formal Arabic.

The phonetic value of the simple human eye [D4] is '2r' or 'ar'. The English number (2) here is a modern Egyptian convention to mean the guttural (a) or the Egyptian 'hamza' because it has no equivalent in English alphabets and it looks like the Egyptian vulture [G1] which indicates the guttural (a).

One very important rule taken from my theory is:

**nearly all bilateral Ancient Egyptian glyphs could be read in mirror form**

It means that 'sr' could be read also as 'rs'. Another example is the falcon sign [G5] or 'Horus' which reads as 'Hr' or 'rH', and so on.

The famous AE seat [Q1] was called the 'praying' seat because it was used by the Egyptian divine characters and the elder people to establish divine prayers. Therefore, they offered it the phonetic value 'SL' which means 'pray'.

The phonetic value of the famous AE flag sign [R8] is '2L' which is the guttural (a) and the (L) phonemes or simply (aL / La), taking into consideration that the guttural (a) could be read sometimes as (i) or (e) as in the English word (ill).or (eye), etc.

Using the phonetic values of these 4 important glyphs [D4, Q1, Q2, R8] we can combine them together in different ways to obtain many Egyptian words of different meanings.

Alsaadawi 4

Could someone explain to me the variences on this norm below, and were this changes and how. I have read that sometimes when refering to people or gods the word can be read backwards but what are the indications of this or is their no constants to give an indication.

Also when the glyphs are related to the person or gods are they usualy infront of the figure or behind, Does the way the glyphs face (Re I have seen glyphs in mirror images) change the direction to the subject it is refering to?.

RE: If the determinative hieroglyphics face to the right, is the word going to relate to the releif on the right, or the relief on the left. The reliefs I have noticed always face the same way as the hieroglyphics.

"Normally, hieroglyphics were written from right to left (with the birds, mammals, and people facing to the right). Hieratic (script hieroglyphics) was always written from right to left"

Sorry for all the questions but i am trying to teach myself, but I have to admit it is rather confusing to me.

Thanks in advance

Ozzy

Tks

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Originally posted by Ozzy:
I can change them to any format that is accepted, just need to know how to do it, If it can be done and what format is accepted. TKS ausar.

Ozzy

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However, the AE language is unique because one can read it also from left to write. I think that it is not necessarily that the written Hieroglyphs should refer to the near-by or associated photo, depiction or relief. This is just a general remark but I think it deserves more study.