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I have no websites on this particular subject,but I can tell you that martial arts are not only depicted on the tombs of Beni Hassan. Other tombs around Waset[Thebes] also shows stick fighting that is still praticed by the rural Upper Egyptians called tahtib in Arabic.
The Beni Hassan tomb is interesting due to the fact it functions like a flip book that showcases various throws and moves. We also have scenes in Rameses III window of apperance around Djeme[Mediu Habu] showing wrestling moves that appear very similar to the Nuba people in the modern Nuba mountains in the Sudan.
The Tahtib[stick fighting] was seen both as a reactment of the battles between Heru and Set and also as a millitary training device.
Here is some information from Frank Joseph Yurco:
What is being referred to here are the back wall scenes painted in the tombs of the nomarchs of the 16th Upper Egyptian nome, in the place now called Beni Hassan. On those walls a continuous scene of wrestling between two men is depicted, in a series of scens that interestingly when cut up and placed scene by scene on cards, if flipped through shows the actual sequence of the wrestling moves. The ancient Egyptians had a tradition of such wrestling and it was again shown in Ramesses III's funerary temple in a scene right below the window of appearance in the First Court of that temple.
Most sincerely,
Frank J.Yurco University of Chicago
-- Frank Joseph Yurco fjyurco@midway.uchicago.edu
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Amwa,are you going to respond to my post about martial arts> I thought you wanted to discuss this?
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Sure,thanks for the info..I found it enlightening..Also,I found some info about the stick fighting online called "tahtib" It actually showed a contest and a Upper Egyptian master..Ausar how long have you lived in the USA? Posts: 74 | From: atlanta,ga | Registered: Dec 2003
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I have a book that shows a Egyptian woman performing back flips and the Egyptians also had boxing..Do we know how much they could've been influenced from Nubian culture?..I read online that boxing was in Nubia and was brought to Egypt over 8,000 years ago.
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I know many of these tombs are closed to the public.Anyone knows why?...Also,they don't allow you to take pictures at some..Why? Does it affect the tombs?...Thanks blackman for the links.
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People don't allow pictures because the flash wears the paint.
Amwa,I have been living in America since I was around 5 years old.
The first reproduction I have seen of boxing in ancient Egyptian tomb scene dates back to the reign of Amenhotep I in his tomb. Other tomb scenes might also show boxing,but I am not aware of it. I am sure that Nubians had a version of boxing also in their culture.
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: People don't allow pictures because the flash wears the paint.
Amwa,I have been living in America since I was around 5 years old.
The first reproduction I have seen of boxing in ancient Egyptian tomb scene dates back to the reign of Amenhotep I in his tomb. Other tomb scenes might also show boxing,but I am not aware of it. I am sure that Nubians had a version of boxing also in their culture.
Ausar, how often do you revisit Egypt? And what's the cheapest way to go?
quote:Originally posted by ausar: People don't allow pictures because the flash wears the paint.
Amwa,I have been living in America since I was around 5 years old.
The first reproduction I have seen of boxing in ancient Egyptian tomb scene dates back to the reign of Amenhotep I in his tomb. Other tomb scenes might also show boxing,but I am not aware of it. I am sure that Nubians had a version of boxing also in their culture.
I never knew that AEs boxed! How interesting! Did the style and system of boxing seem very similar to the present day sport? What other sport did they play?
quote:Originally posted by Keino: I never knew that AEs boxed! How interesting! Did the style and system of boxing seem very similar to the present day sport? What other sport did they play?
There is an Egyptologist in the US who thinks the Egyptians played a game with a stick and ball similar to baseball.
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There is an Egyptologist in the US who thinks the Egyptians played a game with a stick and ball similar to baseball.
Peter Piccoine! He recently came to L.A. to give a talk on the subject--he's even has had baseball cards printed--as a joke--of Rameses the Great. He's serious about them playing the game, though, and his information was quite compelling.
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Boxing they praticed was a little different from regulation boxing that we pratice in different leagues. Just like any activity it occured as a spirtual system that encompassed their everyday life. This was also the same fuction as Tahtib when enacted simulated the conflict between Set and Heru. Every year during the Opet festival or other envents this was renacted.
The other sporting activity was a game much like field hockey.
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I'll chime in. I've done a little digging on the subject. Take a look at the links below. Note the unusual "soft fist" being used by the boxers which is probably due to the lack of any kind of hand wrap.
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