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Wally
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The "debate" on what race the Ancient Egyptians belonged to, appears to be an incessant one, popping up relentlessy everywhere there's a discussion about these great people. So let us pause momentarily, take a deep breath, and tally exactly where we stand thus far...

All those who say that the Ancient Egyptians were Black folks:
-- the Ancient Egyptians
-- the Ancient Greeks
> Herodotus
> Aristotle
> Lucian
> Apollodorus
> Aeschylus
-- the Ancient Romans
> Strabo
> Diodorus of Sicily
> Diogenes Laertius
> Ammanius Marcellinus
-- France
> Count Constatine de Volney
> Marius Fontanes - "Les Egyptes"
-- England
> EW Budge (finally, reluctantly) - "Keeper of the Egyptian and Assyrian Antiquities, British Museum"
-- The Anzac troops upon arriving in Egypt during WWI
"My God, we didn't know the Egyptians were niggers!" (sic!)
-- Professor C.A. Diop
-- Professor Theophile Obenga
-- The Christian Bible
-- The Kebra Nagast (Ethiopian bible)
-- The Tanakh (Torah)

All those who say that the Ancient Egyptians were not Black folks:
-- White Egyptologists
-- Zahi Hawass


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Hahahahahaha..that's funny..To be fair Wally
there are must be others who agree with Zahi
and his Egyptian Crew..lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Amwa:
Hahahahahaha..that's funny..To be fair Wally
there are must be others who agree with Zahi
and his Egyptian Crew..lol

I think there is more who agree with Hawass too, but it only takes a few politically, socially and economically abled to get their way of in depicting AEs how they think or want them to be depicted, spreading their propaganda to the media in an attempt to further confuse the masses.

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Time Will Tell!- Bob Marley


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quote:
Originally posted by Amwa:
Hahahahahaha..that's funny..To be fair Wally
there are must be others who agree with Zahi
and his Egyptian Crew..lol

[This message has been edited by katrina (edited 26 March 2004).]


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You know what and all those Greeks and Romans
lived actually close to that era and where
eyewitnesses,can the Egyptologists or Zahi
say that?

Well Ausar already pointed out Zahi said the
Upper Egyptians are the direct descendants
of the ancients so put a asterisk buy his
name and add him to the "black folks" list.
lol


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Wally
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quote:
Originally posted by Amwa:
You know what and all those Greeks and Romans
lived actually close to that era and where
eyewitnesses,can the Egyptologists or Zahi
say that?

Well Ausar already pointed out Zahi said the
Upper Egyptians are the direct descendants
of the ancients so put a asterisk buy his
name and add him to the "black folks" list.
lol



The "debate" on what race the Ancient Egyptians belonged to, appears to be an incessant one, popping up relentlessy everywhere there's a discussion about these great people. So let us pause momentarily, take a deep breath, and tally exactly where we stand thus far...

All those who say that the Ancient Egyptians were Black folks:
-- the Ancient Egyptians
-- the Ancient Greeks
> Herodotus
> Aristotle
> Lucian
> Apollodorus
> Aeschylus
-- the Ancient Romans
> Strabo
> Diodorus of Sicily
> Diogenes Laertius
> Ammanius Marcellinus
-- France
> Count Constatine de Volney
> Marius Fontanes - "Les Egyptes"
-- England
> EW Budge (finally, reluctantly) - "Keeper of the Egyptian and Assyrian Antiquities, British Museum"
-- The Anzac troops upon arriving in Egypt during WWI
"My God, we didn't know the Egyptians were niggers!" (sic!)
-- Professor C.A. Diop
-- Professor Theophile Obenga
-- The Christian Bible
-- The Kebra Nagast (Ethiopian bible)
-- The Tanakh (Torah)
-- **The Koran
-- (?)Zahi Hawass (per Amwa)

All those who say that the Ancient Egyptians were not Black folks:
-- White Egyptologists

**Ta Ha/Surah 20
Allah greets Moses ("Prince of Egypt") in the valley of Tuwa and shows Moses two tokens (i.e., miracles):
1) Turning Moses' staff into a serpent
2) Turning Moses' hand white


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Wally Claimes!!!!!-- The Anzac troops upon arriving in Egypt during WWI
"My God, we didn't know the Egyptians were niggers!" (sic!)


What ANZAC ever used the word nigger you bloody Idiot. My great grandfather was an ANZAC and the word nigger was not even part of the Australian language. There were words for many ethnic groups including black, but Nigger was not one of then. More american propoganda, absolute crap. My great grandfather served in the light horse in Egypt and I spoke to him about his thoughts on Egypt before he died. You idiots stoop so low it makes me sick.

Im not even sure why I even come back as little as I do these days, to read the slow deteriation of a once god site.

Ozzy


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quote:
Originally posted by Ozzy:
Wally Claimes!!!!!-- The Anzac troops upon arriving in Egypt during WWI
"My God, we didn't know the Egyptians were niggers!" (sic!)


What ANZAC ever used the word nigger you bloody Idiot. My great grandfather was an ANZAC and the word nigger was not even part of the Australian language. There were words for many ethnic groups including black, but Nigger was not one of then. More american propoganda, absolute crap. My great grandfather served in the light horse in Egypt and I spoke to him about his thoughts on Egypt before he died. You idiots stoop so low it makes me sick.

Im not even sure why I even come back as little as I do these days, to read the slow deteriation of a once god site.

Ozzy



Wow! I guess to some people the truth can be a SOB!

All one has to do is Goggle > anzac + nigger and you'll get 5,440 hits!

Here's a sampling:

From an Anzac diary:

The diary [http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/BollDi.htm] which Bollinger kept from the time he left Wellington on 16 October 1914 documents superbly the experiences and shifting attitudes of a New Zealand soldier during the Gallipoli campaign. At first there is unqualified enthusiasm for battle, expressed in his desire for a 'BRUSH-UP' WITH THE 'NIGGERS' OF CAIRO..."

Here's more "American propaganda":

"Is it true that of all the worlds country's you (Australians) have the most slang terms for visitors or new Australian's....such as but not limited to:
Slopes, Chinks, Niggers, Boongs, Coons, Wogs, Spics, Greezers, Wops, Abos', and many many more.....is that true.?"

Actually, I think this site is probably much improved...


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Wally,you don't even quote your sources right. The quote you referenced is on this website http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/default.asp?Find_Quick.asp?PersonEssay=3B39



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This is getting ridiculous. Put wally back in the cage...
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quote:
Originally posted by ausar:
Wally,you don't even quote your sources right. The quote you referenced is on this website http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/default.asp?Find_Quick.asp?PersonEssay=3B39



The Quote I made was sufficient. The point is the same. http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/BollDi.htm
And it's odd that those others who cannot pose a logical or factual contradition must resort to name calling. Or childishly try to evade reality by forcing my posting away. Bump the truth! Indeed!

[This message has been edited by Wally (edited 26 March 2004).]


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