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I added this feature to my website and wanted to share it with this forum: The Discoveries and Inventions of Ancient Egypt
Monotheism
Philosophy
Organized Science Anthropology-Ethnology (identifying and labeling racial groups) Botany Zoology Astronomy Mathematics Medicine Anatomy (identifying and labeling internal and external body parts) Antibiotics Embalming Surgical instruments Medical specialists (Doctors who treated specific ailments) Dentists
Transportation Rudder Canals (including the first Suez canal) Navy (including the circumvention of the African continent)
Technology Steam engine (Heron of Alexandria, a native Egyptian, called Michanikos, the Machine Man) Automaton (Heron) Automatic door (Heron) Lock Key Clock Loom Ink Metal piping
Customs Wedding ring Handshake Table manners "Amen" (Hidden) Thumbs up, thumbs down
Food & Drink Pancakes
Agriculture Plow
Home Air-cooling system Fan Master bedroom Canopy bed Indoor lighting - oil lamps
Communications Calendar Writing Postal system Carrier pigeons Drum
At play Checkers Senet Rattles Marbles Bowling Darts Doll making industry Mechanical toys Zoos Literature (novels, poetry, narrative, drama) Sistrum Bagpipe Trumpet Wind Organ (Heron)
References: Ancient Inventions, Peter James & Nick Thorpe, Ballentine Books, NY Extraordinary Origins of Everyday Things, Charles Panati, Harper & Row, NY
This list is far from exhaustive. If you know of anymore Kemetian discoveries or inventions, please post them.
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You should also include carpentry joints. Most of the joints that modern carpenters and cabinent makers have come from AE.
Alot of those things you mention were developed by many different people at various periods of time.
You should also include a egg hatchery system that is still employed in Egypt today. Edward Willam Lane mentions it in his book ''Manners and Customs of the Modern Egyptians''.
''Rudder''
Where did you get this from? The rudder was first developed by the Chinese.
''Navy (including the circumvention of the African continent)''
This was alleged by Herodotus but was never proven. The people who should get the credit for this are Phonecians. It was Phonecian sailors employed by the Egyptian pharoah Necho II
''Loom''
Many people developed this independtly away from AE influce.
''Ink''
Many people developed this indepently also.
The Amharan people in Ethiopia make ink from plants there. Chinese made paper and ink from bamboo.
''Hot Comb/Hair straightening comb''
Where did you get this information from?
''Toothbrush''
Toothbrush was a Chinese invention actually.
You should include marshmellows on your list. AE developed marshmellows. I believe also the development of Beer is a toss up between Mesopotamia and Egypt.
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: You should also include carpentry joints. Most of the joints that modern carpenters and cabinent makers have come from AE.
Will do Alot of those things you mention were developed by many different people at various periods of time.
true, but I'm speaking of the originators You should also include a egg hatchery system that is still employed in Egypt today. Edward Willam Lane mentions it in his book ''Manners and Customs of the Modern Egyptians''. will do
''Rudder''
Where did you get this from? The rudder was first developed by the Chinese. a lot of things are attributed to the chinese which are questionable: a) they invented paper? what is papyrus b)gunpowder; Diop in one of his footnotes mentions that the Kemetians used gunpowder in some of their religious ceremonies c)I simply remember reading that at one point and it stuck in my mind that the rudder was invented in Kemet
''Navy (including the circumvention of the African continent)''
This was alleged by Herodotus but was never proven. The people who should get the credit for this are Phonecians. It was Phonecian sailors employed by the Egyptian pharoah Necho II Even so, as you state it was a Kemetian expedition
''Loom''
Many people developed this independtly away from AE influce.
indeed, they did. References I have seen have given priority to Kemet ''Ink''
Many people developed this indepently also.
The Amharan people in Ethiopia make ink from plants there. Chinese made paper and ink from bamboo.
please see my response directly above ''Hot Comb/Hair straightening comb''
Where did you get this information from? This too is an image from a book of this hotcomb that was found in a royal tomb which stuck in my mind.
''Toothbrush''
Toothbrush was a Chinese invention actually. I have already commented on Chinese 'inventions'
You should include marshmellows on your list. AE developed marshmellows. I believe also the development of Beer is a toss up between Mesopotamia and Egypt. Yes. I started to include beer but didn't because as you say it's a toss up. Thanks for the input
quote:Where did you get this from? The rudder was first developed by the Chinese. a lot of things are attributed to the chinese which are questionable: a) they invented paper? what is papyrus
gunpowder; Diop in one of his footnotes mentions that the Kemetians used gunpowder in some of their religious ceremonies
Yes,paper was developed by the Kemetians first ,but Chinese had pulp papers which was a mjaor improvement. Most areas of Medevil Egypt continued using papyrus up untill the 1200's when Chinese pulp paper was developed. The Papyrus industry died after this. Pliny The Elder has a description of papyrus making in his book.
I'm skeptical about the AE having gunpowder. After all,it was the Muslims in Spain who later utilized the invention and developed the proto-type for our modern gun from bamboo sticks. Chinese just used it for clearing land for irrgation. Van Sertima made a claim Western Africans made gunpowder from a kola nut but never gives references. I have been looking all over for this infromation and yet to find it. Do you have any ideas about this?
You are going to have to provide evidence to me about the Kemetians developing the rudder. I haven't seen any textual evidence of it.
quote:Hot Comb/Hair straightening comb''
Where did you get this information from? This too is an image from a book of this hotcomb that was found in a royal tomb which stuck in my mind.
Make sure when you make claims you validate them from references either from tomb paintings,textual references,or from second hand sources like books. You must document all your claims with proof.
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: Make sure when you make claims you validate them from references either from tomb paintings,textual references,or from second hand sources like books. You must document all your claims with proof.
Kemetian civilization is at least 1000 years older than the Chinese:
from the 'Tale of Sinuhe';
"Evening fell as I trod on to the mooring-point of the horned bull. I ferried across in a cargo-boat without a rudder, thanks..."
Now, that certainly indicates a knowledge of the existence of a rudder...And how old is the 'Tale of Sinuhe?' I'd say that it's probably older than China.
In the Kemetian language and in Coptic, we also have: 'Ouser' and 'Boser' for rudder, and there are other words as well. Their is even a hieroglyph that is a picture of a rudder used in the words for rudder. It would be interesting to see just how old these words are...and again, probably older than China (2100bc) itself...
Here is where I think the confusion lies, steering oars were the first rudders, and in the 1300's the Chinese invented the sternpost rudder, which was a great improvement over the original device.
Document my sources??? How far down the list did you go? I give two primary references, most of the items listed come from these two sources.
And when you state that the Chinese invented the rudder, did you verify the reliability of this information? And if you had, it is still unreliable and demonstrably false. What they did was revolutionize its original design.
And as to the 'hot comb,' I've been constantly trying to find this image again. It would surely enhance my website. It would certainly have an impact! This is the same type of comb that African American women use today! Alas, however, books do go out-of-print, yet I am determined to retrieve this image...
And trust me, if I write something down, you can bet I know what I'm talking about. I can certainly make a mistake but it is not necessary to make anything up.
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So they invented Marshmallows? Interesting...where can I find out more? And what would they have called them?
Thanks, Kaytie
Edited to say that my cursory internet search merely sent me to sites that said "Marshmallows were first invented by the Ancient Egyptians..." without providing a reliable source.
[This message has been edited by kaytie (edited 24 June 2004).]
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MARSHMALLOW Marshmallow candy was first made by ancient Egyptians over three thousand years ago. The Egyptians made candy from the root of the marshmallow plant (Althea officinalis), a plant that grows in marshes. Today's marshmallows do not contain any mallow root - gelatin is substituted for the sweet, sticky root. http://www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/1300.shtml
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It seems that there is always confusion as to who invented what and when. I am still vacillating between including beer as as Ancient Egyptian invention or not to, for no more reason than that it existed at least contemporaneously with that of Mesopotamia, which Western authors always gives the nod to Mesopotamia/Sumer. It most likely was also another Ancient Egyptian invention. I'll wait on this one...
The Rudder
The word 'rudder' comes from the Old English, 'paddle, oar' and the first known rudders or steering oars, were those used by the Ancient Egyptians, several thousand years BC. In the 1300's AD the Chinese invented the sternpost rudder, which was a great improvement over the original device. It then became fashionable to refer to this improvement as the original. Fashionable, but inaccurate...
The Hot Comb
Another example is that of the 'Hot Comb', used by African-American women to 'press' their hair. It's invention, also, has been incorrectly attributed to Sarah Walker, the highly successful 'Cosmetic baroness.' Those who know better have emphasized how wrong this is. Ms. Walker merely re-introduced this item to the African community. It first appeared in the tomb(s) of Ancient Egyptian noblewomen. I know, because I've seen a photograph of one. There should be at least a dozen of these around. I'd like to get an image of one. So I'm asking you all to help me do some detective work and find it. It looks remarkably like this: http://www.cameobeauty.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/s4190.jpg
Also here's another reference source on the subject: "The Black population of Egypt remained intact in much of Egypt until about the 700's AD when the Arabs invaded Egypt and the Black population of the northern part and major urban centers of Egypt became mixed with the various invaders. This hairstyle of even rows of dreadlocks or coiled hair was done naturally or artifically with a type of hot comb invented by the Egyptians themselves."
It appears that the Egyptians were responsible for the 24 hour day. The Eqyptians were fond of counting in base twelve (instead of base 10 which is commonly used today). This is thought to be because they counted finger joints instead of fingers. Each of your fingers has three joints, so if you count by pointing to finger joints with your thumb you can count to twelve on each hand. This might seem arbitrary, but is actually just a strange as counting in base ten simply because we have ten digits.
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