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They will reject whatever researchers will bring them.

DNA research few years ago proved that the people who live today in North Sudan and Egypt are respectively the Nubians and Ancient Egyptians' Decendants and the same people who lived there 9500 years ago. More or less the same people, the report states and aired in the History Channel, few years ago.

They the afro centrics called it a white Channel, although it never stated that Ancient Egyptians looked like Charles Heston, still they say that even Sadat is not black enough for the typical Ancient Egyptian decendant, they envision, may be just partly an AE, from the few Ancient Egypt whose decendants survived after the genocides that was practised on them. No genocide ever reported in the most documented history of an ancient civilization.

They insist that most ancient Egyptians died, when cornered, so they will not accepet that those white skin Egyptians of today will be the inheritors of the greatness of AE. Refusing also the fact that Egypt had been thoroughly mixed through intermarriages, you won't find the most famous Turkish family for example , completely pure Turkish but had mixed, not only with Egyptians but have a hidden black Nubian slave grandmother, centuries ago, that they won't talk about and deny.


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When you are done with red herring arguments, and ready to engage in a coherent discussion involving substantiation, keep us informed.
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*YAWN*

Another modern version of Don Quixote. Why are you keep making new threads this has already been discussed and you were shredded into million pieces. LOL He thinks he can win an argument by creating new threads. A similar pattern here is that whenever losing in an argument let's make a new thread and stir things up.

What white skinned Egyptians of today? White people you admire today call them "sand n------". So much for the butt-sucking eh? lol Keep up with your tabloid crap. Scientifically, culturally it's already proven that Ancient Egyptians were black. This is an old news *YAWN*. How do you like being hated by both whites, blacks, and now asians? lol

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AMR1 rejects Tut's true dark skin face and rejects any legitimate claim to AE!!!
LMFO

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quote:
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AMR1 rejects Tut's true dark skin face and rejects any legitimate claim to AE!!!
[b]LMFO

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By the way I agree with you in this one. Tut is what those ancient pictures show, but this is not black african for me, that is brown african. It makes a diffeence for us Africans and if you are brown you must be mixed with something else.

Tut's dynasty is one of two or three dynasties out of 33 dynasties that had Nubian mixture, so imagine the ones who do not have Nubian mixture but libyan or Mesoptamian, what colour its phoroahs would be.

BY THE WAY SOME AFRO CENTRICS EVEN REJECT THE BROWN COLOUR OF TUT AS THE TYPICAL BLACK COLOUR WHICH THEY ENVISION FOR AE.


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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
By the way I agree with you in this one. Tut is what those ancient pictures show, but this is not black african for me, that is brown african. It makes a diffeence for us Africans and if you are brown you must be mixed with something else.

Tut's dynasty is one of two or three dynasties out of 33 dynasties that had Nubian mixture, so imagine the ones who do not have Nubian mixture but libyan or Mesoptamian, what colour its phoroahs would be.

BY THE WAY SOME AFRO CENTRICS EVEN REJECT THE BROWN COLOUR OF TUT AS THE TYPICAL BLACK COLOUR WHICH THEY ENVISION FOR AE.


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AMR1,

Since you have actually gotten past a bit of denial about the obvious darkness of Tut's skin tone, why do you think the latest reconstruction of Tut was lightened up (since you brought up this thread, again)? Answer that question and you will be on your way to enlightenment!


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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
By the way I agree with you in this one. Tut is what those ancient pictures show, but this is not black african for me, that is brown african. It makes a diffeence for us Africans and if you are brown you must be mixed with something else.

Tut's dynasty is one of two or three dynasties out of 33 dynasties that had Nubian mixture, so imagine the ones who do not have Nubian mixture but libyan or Mesoptamian, what colour its phoroahs would be.

BY THE WAY SOME AFRO CENTRICS EVEN REJECT THE BROWN COLOUR OF TUT AS THE TYPICAL BLACK COLOUR WHICH THEY ENVISION FOR AE.


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okay,he his a brown skinned black negriod man,happy?
alot of blacks have brown and dark brown skin.
so it your warp mind if two jet black parents have a kid with brown skin and it happens than the kid is not of the black race anymore even if he is unimed and have negriod features?are you dumb or what?
tut is of the black race.there are blacks lighter than him that are unmixed and have negriod features and some others with mostly negriod features.
what about the blacks who do not look black but say they are black,they are not black to you?if they are half black and say they are black that is there affair not yours.
tut looks black anyway.

a brown race man does not look like him.
a brown race man looks more like saddam etc.
tut does not look like that even if he has some form of mixture.

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quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:

okay,he his a brown skinned black negriod man,happy?
alot of blacks have brown and dark brown skin.
so it your warp mind if two jet black parents have a kid with brown skin and it happens than the kid is not of the black race anymore even if he is unimed and have negriod features?are you dumb or what?
tut is of the black race.there are blacks lighter than him that are unmixed and have negriod features and some others with mostly negriod features.
what about the blacks who do not look black but say they are black,they are not black to you?if they are half black and say they are black that is there affair not yours.
tut looks black anyway.

a brown race man does not look like him.
a brown race man looks more like saddam etc.
tut does not look like that even if he has some form of mixture.


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SEE ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS HERE IS THAT WE SEE THE SAME PERSON AND YOU CALL HIM NEGROID, WE CALL HIM "ASMAR" meaning a non negroid brown person.

In Africa a brown person like Sadat and Hail Selassie are basically what you non Africans call mulattos, they are not negroid people.


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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
By the way I agree with you in this one. Tut is what those ancient pictures show, but this is not black african for me, that is brown african. It makes a diffeence for us Africans and if you are brown you must be mixed with something else.

Tut's dynasty is one of two or three dynasties out of 33 dynasties that had Nubian mixture, so imagine the ones who do not have Nubian mixture but libyan or Mesoptamian, what colour its phoroahs would be.

BY THE WAY SOME AFRO CENTRICS EVEN REJECT THE BROWN COLOUR OF TUT AS THE TYPICAL BLACK COLOUR WHICH THEY ENVISION FOR AE.


Regards,


AMR1,
I agree with you: that usually brown is the color of mulatto or mixed people, however the pictures above show someone who has Eastern African features like in Somali, Ethiopia,Kenya,Uganda, Burundi,Rwanda, Tanzania. If you lived in Egype I'm pretty sure you met some Ethiopians or Somalis like that, even few Sudanese look that way. But very few Arab or Mediterranean have the same features: I mean the big eyes, very small nose, big forehead, this is typical of Eastern Africa. And I believe many Nubians look that way.

By the way question for you since you seem to be familiar with how Pharaos mixed with people: Were the early Pharaos more Nubians or more something else.
Another small: was Sadat a Nubian?

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quote:
By the way question for you since you seem to be familiar with how Pharaos mixed with people: Were the early Pharaos more Nubians or more something else.

This is why one must study the pre-dyanstic Upper Egyptian skeletal remains. The skeletal remains found in pre-dyanstic Upper Egypt show them to have affinities with ''tropical'' Africans. The ancient Egyptian civlization came from the Badarian into the Naqada culture.


During this period we also see that the Central/Eastern Sahara was more moist. According to Fekri Hassan many of these people living in eastern/Central Sahara migrated into Upper Egypt assimilating with the already local population.


Journal of World Prehistory (Historical Archive)
Publisher: Springer Science+Business Media B.V., Formerly Kluwer Academic Publishers B.V.
ISSN: 0892-7537 (Paper) 1573-7802 (Online)
DOI: 10.1007/BF00975416
Issue: Volume 2, Number 2
Date: June 1988
Pages: 135 - 185
The Predynastic of Egypt

Fekri A. Hassan1
1) Department of Anthropology, Washington State University, 99164-4910 Pullman, Washington, USA

Abstract The Predynastic of Egypt, spanning an interval from ca. 4000 to 3050 B.C., was an eventful period. After the inception of food production in the Nile Valley at least a millennium before, it was the time when the identity of Egyptian society was forged. Egypt was settled by refugees from the deserts of the eastern Sahara and the southern Levant, fleeing from mid-Holocene droughts, and became a melting pot of indigenous Nilotes and desert herders, part-time cultivators, and hunters. Within a millennium, an increasing dependence on agriculture led to sedentary life and, in some cases, to the development of sizable communities. By 4000 B.C., the settled communities had also developed a distinct division of labor between men and women and ritual and religious beliefs in which women, grain, fertility, and death were salient and interrelated elements. The Predynastic communities were also faced by the most destabilizing factor of agricultural economy, namely, fluctuations of yield. Attempts to dampen the fluctuations through interregional integration led to the emergence of community representatives and eventually chiefs. Legitimation of the status of chiefs through affiliation with the traditional and supernatural power associated with women, fertility, and death and the acquisition of exotic goods stimulated trade and an industry in funerary goods. Enlargement of economic units through alliances, with occasional incidences of fighting, especially after 3600 B.C., led to the rise of a state society governed by supreme rulers. The wedding of the funerary cult of Late Predynastic Egypt with political power and military might was the basis for the most fascinating aspects of Ancient Egypt?religion and kingship.

Key Words Neolithic - Predynastic - North Africa - Egypt - Nile Valley - origins of state - civilization

The references of this article are secured to subscribers.


http://www.springerlink.com/app/h ome/contribution.asp?wasp=826219190d604d1e8443fe720722ae08&referrer=parent&backto=searcharticlesresults,3,9;

African Archaeological Review
Publisher: Springer Science+Business Media B.V., Formerly Kluwer Academic Publishers B.V.
ISSN: 0263-0338 (Paper) 1572-9842 (Online)
DOI: 10.1023/B:AARR.0000005518.81411.43
Issue: Volume 20, Number 4
Date: December 2003
Pages: 175 - 202
Cultural Origins of the Egyptian Neolithic and Predynastic: An Evaluation of the Evidence from the Dakhleh Oasis (South Central Egypt)

Ashten R. Warfe1 [Contact Information]
1) Centre for Archaeology, School of Historical Studies, Monash University, Melbourne, Australia

Abstract The debate surrounding the origins of the Egyptian Neolithic and Predynastic has, over the past few decades, come to rest on the neighboring Saharan region as the most likely source of influence. Although there is some evidence for the appearance of domesticates in the Western Desert before food-producing communities emerged in Upper and Lower Egypt, there is a strong case for the introduction of Saharan artifacts and technologies to the Nile Valley communities. This paper examines this argument in relation to the Western Desert region of the Dakhleh Oasis (South Central Egypt). The intent of the paper is to recognize the role Dakhleh played in the cultural development of the Egyptian Neolithic and Predynastic and whether this can clearly be seen through artifact parallels.
Les parties débattant des origines de l'Egypte néolithique et pré-dynastique ont fini, au cours des dernières décennies, par conclure que la région voisine du Sahara était leur source d'influence la plus vraisemblable. Bien que certaines preuves existent de l'apparition de plantes et d'animaux domestiques dans le Désert occidental avant l'émergence de communautés produisant des aliments en Basse et Haute Egypte, de solides arguments émergent en faveur de l'introduction d'objets fabriqués et de technologies dans les communautés de la Vallée du Nil. L'exposé en question examine cet argument par rapport à la région du Désert occidental de l'Oasis de Dakhla (centre-sud de l'Egypte). Le but de cet exposé est de reconnaître le rôle de Dakhla dans le développement culturel de l'Egypte néolithique et pré-dynastique et de déterminer si oui ou non celui-ci peut clairement être identifié, de façon parallèle, au travers d'objets fabriqués.

Egypt - Western Desert - Dakhleh Oasis - mid-Holocene - Nile Valley - Neolithic

http://www.springerlink.com/app/h ome/contribution.asp?wasp=826219190d604d1e8443fe720722ae08&referrer=parent&backto=searcharticlesresults,5,9;

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Another small: was Sadat a Nubian?


No,Sadat's mother was Sudanese and his father was a Delta Egyptian. However, there are people living in Middle and Upper Egypt that are actually darker than Sadat and with more negriod features. Still Sadat would not look out of place in many regions in Upper Egypt.

No Africa is pitch black. Not even the Western/Central Africans. Look real close at the Central African basketball player Mutumbo and you will discover he is in reality a dark brown coloring.


Amr, can you guess what coutry the following lady is from?



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AMR1 says: SEE ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS HERE IS THAT WE SEE THE SAME PERSON AND YOU CALL HIM NEGROID, WE CALL HIM "ASMAR" meaning a non negroid brown person.

How many times do we have to repeat ourselves! Exactly what do you mean by "negroid"?! In what context is the word used?! Black Africans come in various colors in features, how the heck are you going to say that brown is "non negroid"?!!

As relaxx says, there are a plenty of blacks farther south in East Africa like in Ethiopia and Somalia and Tanzania that have those features! There are also peoples in West Africa that have the same features as well!!

Your argument is invalid!

Answer Ausar's question! What country is this lady from?!!

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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
SEE ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS HERE IS THAT WE SEE THE SAME PERSON AND YOU CALL HIM NEGROID, WE CALL HIM "ASMAR" meaning a non negroid brown person.

In Africa a brown person like Sadat and Hail Selassie are basically what you non Africans call mulattos, they are not negroid people.


Regards,


AMR1,

Yes Yes Yes, we know all about your European whitewashed brainwashing ideals. NOTE: for once and for ALL! The Ancient Egyptians did not have a problem being called BLACK! Today, Black has a stigma that few who are Europeanized want to be associated with.

Back to my question. Why do YOU think King Tut's reconstruction was lightened up if you believe he was a Dark Reddish Brown color? Try to answer that question and you will realize how brainwashed you have been. You will realize how racial politics has be engineered to cause you to be subtly racist, to be ashamed of your skin color and African heritage.

When did the Mameluke's take power in Egypt? What did they do while in power?


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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
SEE ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS HERE IS THAT WE SEE THE SAME PERSON AND YOU CALL HIM NEGROID, WE CALL HIM "ASMAR" meaning a non negroid brown person.

In Africa a brown person like Sadat and Hail Selassie are basically what you non Africans call mulattos, they are not negroid people.


Regards,


AMR1,

Most people here have been saying that many of the Ancient Egyptians were black, meaning persons with medium to dark brown skin, similar to Anwar Sadat. Black, as defined in the dictionary, is anyone with brown to dark brown skin, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN OR DESCENDED FROM AFRICA. Black does not mean African American, even though African Americans, many Africans, a lot of people in India and people elsewhere are black, does not mean they have the same national identity, culture or history. No one here has ever tried to say that the Ancient Egyptians were Nigerians, Somali, Bantu or anything else but medium to dark brown skinned people NATIVE TO EGYPT. A lot of Egyptians today share these same traits and are exactly the same as the Ancients, in terms of physical appearance. There is no need to travel outside of Egypt to find the EXACT SAME TYPES OF PEOPLE as those in the ancient monuments, from skin color to nose shape to facial structure to everything else. AND DOESNT THAT MAKE SENSE?

The only thing that gets me upset is that you act like this is an issue over words. Man come on. Many of us have said persons with medium to dark brown skin in our replies to you, without using the generic and misleading racial terms. The whole point is that some want to use such misleading terms to try and mislead the people on how the ancients actually looked. Case in point. Everyone talks about this "Meditterranean Race", but how come you don't hear the Greeks or Romans called Meditterranean, especially when many of them, especially in southern areas, are EXACTLY THAT? Obviously, most Greeks and Italians would not agree with that distinction, probably because the majority do not share those traits. Therefore, this is the same with many Egyptians and others not agreeing with a distinction of being called Caucasian. Just like many also do not like being called Black, either.


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The problem is that Arabized countries like Egypt and especially Sudan have the "black stigma" mentality and so deny African or black roots. To many people in those countries "black" is considered sometimes degrading or insulting, the way it was in America before the 60's. That is why people like AMR and others use other Arabic words that describe specific complexions. Like brown or even "wheat" colored. It's worse in the Sudan, for even though most people there are a lot darker than in Egypt, they flatter themselves by saying they have lighter colors than they really do!!
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It has been said before, and I'll take this opportunity to reiterate it: Most black Africans don't necessarily, among themselves, refer to themselves as black Africans. Many of these indigenous African societies have their own social constructs. Now of course, in a 'western' society, they will refer to themselves, according to Eurocentric constructs. It isn't farfetched.

BTW, I agree with the brainwashing in some African regions or countries like Sudan, Egypt, Ethiopia or even central Africa, being responsible for alterations of indigenous social contructs, whereby very dark skin color is perhaps looked down upon, in some cases.

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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
SEE ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS HERE IS THAT WE SEE THE SAME PERSON AND YOU CALL HIM NEGROID, WE CALL HIM "ASMAR" meaning a non negroid brown person.

In Africa a brown person like Sadat and Hail Selassie are basically what you non Africans call mulattos, they are not negroid people.


Regards,


your comments are incorrect again.
by the the way tut if you could see well was a dark brown black(negriod)person.
their are blacks with medium brown skin,dark brown skin and light brown skin,and they could be unmixed,mixed or have some or little mixture and if they look black(negriod) than they are black.
most blacks on the planet by the way are unmixed.

let's not forget too that most folks marry thier own race but not just that most folks of the same ethnic group marry within their own group.that is just facts.unless you are in contact with some aliens from out of space with more advanced weapons to wipe out most of earth than force folks in camps to intermarry.
if that is you sick hopes than i do not want any part of it.

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and most folks in the sudan are proud of being blacks,unlike many of the black arabs and some others and some others to a certain extent.
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afrocentrics are goofballs, nobody cares what they reject or don't reject.
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quote:
Originally posted by Horemheb:
afrocentrics are goofballs, nobody cares what they reject or don't reject.

And what are you professor? The one who's calling ancient Egyptian royalty like this North African "caucasoids"

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Ausar


Why are u deleting my replies?


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Because your replies are repative. You state the same thing over and over. Just open one thread and state what you have to say instead of spamming the board.



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I am not trying to spam the board. The post you deleted had my reply to you about the woman above.

Than the whole board is full of subjects related to each other, there is no intention of spaming.

Say my reply did not suit you.


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Just make one topic and post your thoughts within the topic. You have made about four topics already about Afrocentrits trying to steal history from modern Egyptians. We already get the point.
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Ausar is one of the most objective mods you'll ever see in any message board. In most forums your ass would have been banned long time ago. As far as your arguments go you are almost as clueless as your own racial identity. Your threads are redundant and nothing more than a cry for help. After completely being shattered thread after thread you realized that the only way to justify yourself is to be in complete denial and just straight-up spam the board. Even a broken clock would tell us more than you. At least a broken clock is right two times a day. As you can see you are already losing yet again (not surprisingly) in this thread as well. lol I can really tell that it's driving you crazy. If I were you I would listen to the mod and behave like a kitten. After all he can ban you anytime he wants to and he can easily justify it with your trolling behaviors in the past couple of days.


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Are all of you fucking brain damaged. That is a black boy. He was a negro. Why do you think that Whites in America went through phases of names for us. First we were Niggers, Then Blacks, Then Negroes, Now we are called African Americans. Do you know why that occured? Because to say Black is incorrect. We are not the literally the color Black. Some negroes infact are the color Black but most are ither light to dark brown in complexion. Infact, if you take a light skinned black person, think R and B singer Faith Evans, Smokey Robinson, or actress Jada Pinkett and place that person next to the darkest skinned white person and you will see the Brown difference.

We blacks do not look alike. Whites have colonized African nations and to those people of those nations that the Africans with lighter skins and skinnier facial features that they are somehow non-Negroe. In fact, the United States calls people around the world no matter how dark the complexion or obvious the African that they are not Negro but Caucasion. I mean get fucking real people. KNOW Thyself. For Thyself are not Ancient Egyptian but a Gentile. Read the Bible folks. It does mention that Negroes would be taken by sword and force and placed in all nations. Were they would be ridiculed until the second coming.



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ausar, everyone on this board says the same thing over and over again. I know you are interested in AE history, these people are not. If you want a good historical board then ban race as a topic. You and I both know what would happen if you did that.
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quote:
Originally posted by Horemheb:
ausar, everyone on this board says the same thing over and over again. I know you are interested in AE history, these people are not. If you want a good historical board then ban race as a topic. You and I both know what would happen if you did that.

I hate to admit, but I must agree with Horemheb!

The problem is that new members are coming in and rehashing the racial stuff again. The issue has been resolved a long time ago and it has becom a dead horse beaten to a pulp, ran over with a truck, burned, grinded down, mixed with water, and left out.


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quote:
Originally posted by Horemheb:
ausar, everyone on this board says the same thing over and over again. I know you are interested in AE history, these people are not. If you want a good historical board then ban race as a topic. You and I both know what would happen if you did that.


Why don't you just ignore the race stuff and discuss what you like? You don't have to get involved in the RACE threads!



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The problem is you are one of the main culprit of all these discussion related to race. Tell me why almost all your posts are related to race? (including this one) Actions speak louder than words. I rarely see the regulars in here post a new thread relating to race (all they do is respond) and I agree with Djehuti that it's no longer a mystery and that only problem we have is people who are in serious denial of what is obviously the truth.

Race wouldn't be an issue if you don't have people trying to intentionally distort history to steal other people's culture. Ancient Egypt has always been vital part of African culture. I guarantee you that you would no longer see threads related to race when you guys finally acknowledge the obvious facts and move on. If some African historian said that Ancient Greece was African’s culture you would see the same type of discussion in Greek forums. That would be the hottest topic. You have to learn how to look at situation in other people’s perspective.


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I was surprised that couple of my posts were deleted. I thought that you could say whatever you want and discuss it two, three and even a hundred times because there is always a new outlook on each subject and new people with different opinions and differet data.

I also thought posts should be deleted if there is insults or abusive language. But I guess I was wrong. If you post different threads on the same subject is worst than insulting other posters in this site.


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AE even treated their next door neighbours the Nubians as Second class citizens, although they were very close culturally. They would not have any respect to pan africanism or appreciate to be part of any African Unity or Black Unity or Arab Unity, besides the banner of Egyptianism like the one called by Salama


while Alexander the great called for understanding of others like no other Phoroah and was very futuristic in terms of people relation's to others in this planet.

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Is the civilization of Babylon, Asian?

No

It is Middle Easterner. Same with Egypt it is in Africa no doubt, but a Middle Easterner civilization. Were the Egyptians darker in colour than their decendants today who have mixed with guest migrants from the days before Abraham to this day.

Yes they were


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It is Middle Easterner. Same with Egypt it is in Africa no doubt, but a Middle Easterner civilization. Were the Egyptians darker in colour than their decendants today who have mixed with guest migrants from the days before Abraham to this day.

Yes they were



How is ancient Egypt a middle-eastern civilization when terms like the ''middle-east'' never existed in classical antiquity. This is a modern term coined by British orientalist.


AE were culturally more African than Middle-Eastern.



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quote:
Originally posted by ausar:

How is ancient Egypt a middle-eastern civilization when terms like the ''middle-east'' never existed in classical antiquity. This is a modern term coined by British orientalist.


AE were culturally more African than Middle-Eastern.



The region of the Near East existed all the times, you can call in any name you please. It is still a region that has countries from both Africa and Asia. Countries in this region and their civilization are distinctive from their respective continents.

Trying to say Egypt is African. It is like saying Babylon is Asian and belong to the Chinese.


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The region of the Near East existed all the times, you can call in any name you please. It is still a region that has countries from both Africa and Asia. Countries in this region and their civilization are distinctive from their respective continents.

Ancient Egyptian civlization shared many similarities with other cultures within the continent of Africa. Near East is another invented term by European scholars. Even some scholars placed Sudan within the Near-East. Read the Encylopedia of Near-Eastern civlization and you will notice that even Nubia is within the Encylopedia.


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Trying to say Egypt is African. It is like saying Babylon is Asian and belong to the Chinese.


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No, saying AE is an African civlization is exactly what it is both ethnically and culturally. You will not find the such concepts as the rain-maker king in many Near-Eastern soceities,but you will be able to find such concepts in modern soceities from Western Africa to Southern Sudan.

Babylon and China don't share such cultural connections but AE does with the rest of the African continent.

BTW, have you ever studied AE culture besides some websites. You don't seem to be very knowleadgable about its culture besides racial debates.



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quote:
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No, saying AE is an African civlization is exactly what it is both ethnically and culturally. You will not find the such concepts as the rain-maker king in many Near-Eastern soceities,but you will be able to find such concepts in modern soceities from Western Africa to Southern Sudan.

Babylon and China don't share such cultural connections but AE does with the rest of the African continent.

BTW, have you ever studied AE culture besides some websites. You don't seem to be very knowleadgable about its culture besides racial debates.


Ausar, of course not! That's the problem. AMR knows nothing about African culture and probably nothing about Egyptian culture as well. Probably the only thing he knows about AE is that they built pyramids, he knows not the many customs and religious beliefs that they share in common with other Africans.

It is way over his head! LOL


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