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Evil Euro
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This autosomal DNA study confirms other recent research establishing a genetic basis for traditional racial categories.

(Note that the study is also by Calo, and note the placement of Sicilians well within the European cluster, near Basques and far away from Africans. When not using blood group studies from the 1970s, Calo is capable of providing accurate information.)

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Analisi di 5 microsatelliti nelle tre maggiori isole del Mediterraneo Occidentale

Calo et al. (2001)
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ABSTRACT: About 360 unrelated individuals from the three largest islands of the Western Mediterranean: Sardinia (Italy), Sicily (Italy) and Corsica (France) were examined. The DNA was amplified by means of PCR and the fragments were separated using a polyacrylamide gel. The microsatellites analysed in the present work are: GABRB3, D15S108, LIPC, D13S115, D13S270. The allele frequencies distribution showed significant differences between the islands. The 5 microsatellites have a high discrimination power (PD) and a high Polymorphic Information Content (PIC). The highest discrimination power was found for GABRB3 and secondarily for D13S115, which also showed the highest values of PIC. The comparison with other populations underlined the populations from the same continent cluster together. Particularly Europeans shows a less genetic heterogeneity than other continents. The results demonstrate that these microsatellites are useful in the study of genetic variability of the human populations and in forensic analysis.

eu = Europeans (N Italy, N Europe, Sardinia, Sicily, Corsica, Basques)
as = Asians (China, Japan and Cambodia)
af = Africans (C.A.R., Gabon, Zaire -- mostly Pygmies)
oc = Oceanians (Solomon Islands, New Guinea and Australia)
am = Americans (Indians from Mexico and Brazil)



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Never seen a study where Asians and Africans cluster closely where as Polynesians and Americans are shown as closely related.

Interesting.


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What happened to Middle Easterns, Egyptians, and North Africans? Were they not part of this study?
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quote:
Originally posted by osirion:

Never seen a study where Asians and Africans cluster closely where as Polynesians and Americans are shown as closely related. Interesting.


Not particularly.

I didn't think the parent post was worth responding to myself, nonetheless....

Why different population genetic studies present different and apparently conflicting results,

Factors include:

a) what aspects of the human genome you measure.

b) technique for measuring them.

c) what populations you select.

Here is a more recent study which critiques and specifically debunks Erroneous/Dienekes distortions:

Evidence for Gradients of Human Genetic Diversity Within and Among Continents

A recent study in which >350 microsatellites were studied in a global sample of humans showed that they could be grouped according to their continental origin, and by some this has been interpreted as genetic support for “races.”


Here, we investigate how study design can influence such conclusions.

Our results show that when individuals are sampled homogeneously from around the globe, the pattern seen is one of gradients of allele frequencies that extend over the entire world, rather than discrete clusters.

Therefore, there is no reason to assume that major genetic discontinuities exist between different continents or “races.”

The absence of strong continental clustering in the human gene pool is of practical importance.

We see no reason to assume that "races" represent any units of relevance for understanding human genetic history.
Genome Research 14:1679-1685, 2004
ISSN 1088-9051

Sorry E, as usual, your desperate search for caucaZoid-race leads to another...

[This message has been edited by rasol (edited 22 June 2005).]


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quote:
Originally posted by Evil Euro:
This autosomal DNA study confirms other recent research establishing a genetic basis for traditional racial categories.

(Note that the study is also by Calo, and note the placement of Sicilians well within the European cluster, near Basques and [b]far away from Africans. When not using blood group studies from the 1970s, Calo is capable of providing accurate information.)

[QUOTE]Analisi di 5 microsatelliti nelle tre maggiori isole del Mediterraneo Occidentale

Calo et al. (2001)
Antropo

ABSTRACT: About 360 unrelated individuals from the three largest islands of the Western Mediterranean: Sardinia (Italy), Sicily (Italy) and Corsica (France) were examined. The DNA was amplified by means of PCR and the fragments were separated using a polyacrylamide gel. The microsatellites analysed in the present work are: GABRB3, D15S108, LIPC, D13S115, D13S270. The allele frequencies distribution showed significant differences between the islands. The 5 microsatellites have a high discrimination power (PD) and a high Polymorphic Information Content (PIC). The highest discrimination power was found for GABRB3 and secondarily for D13S115, which also showed the highest values of PIC. The comparison with other populations underlined the populations from the same continent cluster together. Particularly Europeans shows a less genetic heterogeneity than other continents. The results demonstrate that these microsatellites are useful in the study of genetic variability of the human populations and in forensic analysis.

eu = Europeans (N Italy, N Europe, Sardinia, Sicily, Corsica, Basques)
as = Asians (China, Japan and Cambodia)
af = Africans (C.A.R., Gabon, Zaire -- mostly Pygmies)
oc = Oceanians (Solomon Islands, New Guinea and Australia)
am = Americans (Indians from Mexico and Brazil)


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Thats doesn't take from the fact that when Arabs were used in another one of Calo et tal's studies, Arab contribution was found to be significant, the study you're using[which is two years older 2003 study] doesn't use Arabs.


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quote:
Originally posted by rasol:
Evidence for Gradients of Human Genetic Diversity Within and Among Continents

A passage from that very study shows how outdated its conclusions are, and how modern research using autosomal polymorphisms is overturning them:

"Early studies on human diversity showed that most genetic diversity was found between individuals rather than between populations or continents (e.g., Boyd 1950; Lewontin 1972) and that variation in human diversity is best described by geographic clines (Livingstone 1962; Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994). In spite of this, many recent studies using DNA polymorphisms have suggested that human genetic diversity is organized in continental clades (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1988; Bowcock and Cavalli-Sforza 1991; Bowcock et al. 1994; Jorde et al. 1995; Nei and Takezaki 1996; Tishkoff et al. 1996; Mountain and Cavalli-Sforza 1997; Perez-Lezaun et al. 1997; Calafell et al. 1998; Stephens et al. 2001; Bamshad et al. 2003)."


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quote:
Originally posted by Topdog:
Thats doesn't take from the fact that when Arabs were used in another one of Calo et tal's studies, Arab contribution was found to be significant, the study you're using[which is two years older 2003 study] doesn't use Arabs.

If the Arab contribution was significant, Sicilians wouldn't cluster with purely European Basques. Fact is, that Calo blood-group fiasco contradicts all other research on Sicilians.


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brethren,

The bottom line is that people are prejudged by their phenotype (how they look) and not their genotype.

Anyone who thinks otherwise come to USA and see how they treat Arabs, Muslims (some more than others) and other sand people???!!

hosh ah meydeed
hoda hafez


http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v67n6/002411/002411.html


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