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Supercar
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It is quite apparent from the various discussions that have been going on here, that some people from the African Horn feel like they ought be intimately attached to the Ancient Egyptians, and others should stay away from discussing Ancient Egyptians, nothwithstanding that this board was actually supposed to be about discussing ancient Egyptians in the first place. For example, earlier, someone wrote [you know who you are]...

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This is very weird and annoying why are yall so damn obsessed with East Africans(like Somalis) and Egyptians damn! mind your own people.

Yet, genetic data shows that the Nile Valley incorporated Africans of various backgrounds, from the Sahara and further up the Nile:

Lower Egypt (n=162); V=51.9%, XI=11.7%, and IV=1.2%.

Upper Egypt (n=66); V=24.2%, XI=28.8%, and IV=27.3%.

Lower Nubia (n=46); V=17.4%, XI=30.4%, and IV=39.1%.

Courtesy of Lucotte and Mercier, 2003.


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quote:
Originally posted by Super car:
It is quite apparent from the various discussions that have been going on here, that some people from the African Horn feel like they ought be intimately attached to the Ancient Egyptians, and others should stay away from discussing Ancient Egyptians, nothwithstanding that this board was actually supposed to be about discussing ancient Egyptians in the first place. For example, earlier, someone wrote [you know who you are]...

Yet, genetic data shows that the Nile Valley incorporated Africans of various backgrounds, from the Sahara and further up the Nile:

Lower Egypt (n=162); V=51.9%, XI=11.7%, and IV=1.2%.

Upper Egypt (n=66); V=24.2%, XI=28.8%, and IV=27.3%.

Lower Nubia (n=46); V=17.4%, XI=30.4%, and IV=39.1%.

Courtesy of Lucotte and Mercier, 2003.


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i dont and never have claimed it ....from my understanding....my peeps have never.. since its been others-- who have tried to tie it with example somalia....specially afrocentrics...(cough)


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Originally posted by mali:
i dont and never have claimed it ....from my understanding....my peeps have never.. since its been others-- who have tried to tie it with example somalia....specially afrocentrics...(cough)

You are staring at the perfect example, and you are now saying that "from your understanding", your "peeps" have never tried to relate to Ancient Egyptians? Come on Mali, you can do better than that, can't you?


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I for one have espoused a connection between Horn Africans and Egyptians but I never made a claim that they were the same people or that Somalis or other Horn groups should have some kind of "claim" to Egypt!

I agree with Supercar that the populations of the Nile Valley were diverse so there are connections.

Oh and as for that quote that Supercar posted, we ALL know who it was who posted it and it was non other than that dumb hyena's ass, Lebs!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Super car:
You are staring at the perfect example, and you are now saying that "from your understanding", your "peeps" have never tried to relate to Ancient Egyptians? Come on Mali, you can do better than that, can't you?

well as the majority...sound minded...who can speak for all somalis..lol...there likely less caught up in AE and more attentive with rebuilding the land they've known for as long as they can remember....

i do believe AE was a melting pot...where all corners of africa were 1.... unilateral metropalis.....


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quote:
Originally posted by Super car:
It is quite apparent from the various discussions that have been going on here, that some people from the African Horn feel like they ought be intimately attached to the Ancient Egyptians, and others should stay away from discussing Ancient Egyptians, nothwithstanding that this board was actually supposed to be about discussing ancient Egyptians in the first place. For example, earlier, someone wrote [you know who you are]...

Yet, genetic data shows that the Nile Valley incorporated Africans of various backgrounds, from the Sahara and further up the Nile:

Lower Egypt (n=162); V=51.9%, XI=11.7%, and IV=1.2%.

Upper Egypt (n=66); V=24.2%, XI=28.8%, and IV=27.3%.

Lower Nubia (n=46); V=17.4%, XI=30.4%, and IV=39.1%.

Courtesy of Lucotte and Mercier, 2003.


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Because they are close related...

- Language

- Racial looks

- Culture

That's why...


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quote:
Originally posted by leba:
Because they are close related...

- Language

- Racial looks

- Culture

That's why...



Simplistic response. Ancient Egyptians shared elements of language, culture, genetic and other biological relationships with various African groups. Since, you don't agree with this, go ahead and layout the specifics of these relationships you listed, and explain why others shouldn't discuss the Nile Valley because of the idea that they supposedly don't share any relationship!

For starters, genetic information that can be used to establish relationships between various African groups, has already been provided. Please expound on this, in the event that you dismiss such relationships!


BTW, "Leba" almost sounds like the Amharic term for "thief".


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quote:
Originally posted by Super car:

BTW, "Leba" almost sounds like the Amharic term for "thief".


LOL!! The only thing Lebs needs to steal is a brain!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Super car:
It is quite apparent from the various discussions that have been going on here, that some people from the African Horn feel like they ought be intimately attached to the Ancient Egyptians, and others should stay away from discussing Ancient Egyptians, nothwithstanding that this board was actually supposed to be about discussing ancient Egyptians in the first place. For example, earlier, someone wrote [you know who you are]...

Yet, genetic data shows that the Nile Valley incorporated Africans of various backgrounds, from the Sahara and further up the Nile:

Lower Egypt (n=162); V=51.9%, XI=11.7%, and IV=1.2%.

Upper Egypt (n=66); V=24.2%, XI=28.8%, and IV=27.3%.

Lower Nubia (n=46); V=17.4%, XI=30.4%, and IV=39.1%.

Courtesy of Lucotte and Mercier, 2003.


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They don't care about Ancient Egyptians, why? Because they are Africans, and they know that Ancient Egyptians died long time ago, isn't it more interesting to think about people who are alive. Now why are you so interested about Ancient Egyptians, that applies to Rasol, Thought, Al Takruri, Topdog...seriously why do you care about Ancient Egypt? Let's think about technology, hospitals, anti corruption initiatives....
Relaxxx


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Originally posted by relaxx:
Now why are you so interested about Ancient Egyptians, that applies to Rasol, Thought, Al Takruri, Topdog...seriously why do you care about Ancient Egypt?

I care about all African history, and ancient Egypt is included. Most African heritages had undergone early Eurocentric distortions, with ancient Egypt being among the most famous examples. If one is going to get involved in correcting such injustices, one might as well start with a "cradle of civilization"!


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