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Originally posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh*:
Moses, Jesus and like the other characters in the bible do not exist they are archetypes.

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*sigh* the true musings of an atheist nutjob

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Kushi in this case means a darker skinned person not a
member of the political entity Kush (ancient "Sudan").

For more click here Arabian Kush

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ But to you Osiris did exist, and Cyrus was somehow a Biblical archetype of "Christ" figure as you put it?!!

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Miriam and Aaron began speaking against Moses
because of the dark-skinned woman he had married.
The woman that [Moses] had married was indeed dark-skinned.

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dark-skinned

1. Tzipporah was a dark-skinned Midianite (Ibn Ezra; Radak, Sherashim).
2. Kushite in Hebrew, literally Ethiopian (cf. Targum Yonathan; Rashbam; Septuagint).
   1. It is from here that the tradition is derived that after he escaped from Egypt,
      Moses was a ruler in Ethiopia, and married an Ethiopian princess (Rashbam;
      Sefer HaYashar; Divrey Yamim DeMoshe; Yalkut Shimoni 168; Rashbam;
      Josephus, Antiquities 2:10:2).
3. Or, 'a beautiful wife' (Targum; Saadia; Rashi; HaKethav VeHaKabbalah);
4. or, 'a distinguished wife' (Rashi).

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Originally posted by King_Scorpion:

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Kushi in this case means a darker skinned person not a
member of the political entity Kush (ancient "Sudan").

For more click here Arabian Kush

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It didn't say Kushi...here's the actual wording from The Book of Numbers.

Numbers 12

Here's another...

Numbers 12

And Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married; for he had married a Cushite woman.

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Originally posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh*:

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ But to you Osiris did exist, and Cyrus was somehow a Biblical archetype of "Christ" figure as you put it?!!

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What kind of weird non sequitor is that? What I believe and what I know are two different things. What is the big deal?

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It is not a non sequitor so much as repetition to what you have been saying. To be honest, I don't know what you believe or know, hence the confusion! Frankly both, seem to be based on some inaccuracy as seen for example in your whole debaucle about 'race'.

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Of course the word is Kushi.
Precisely its feminine variant
with definite article prefixed.
הַכֻּשִׁית haKuSHiYTH
Literally, "the Kush female."

Remember the "Bible" you so
readily quote from was written
in Hebrew not English.

Mechon Mamre provided you with
the Hebrew. Are you experiencing
a little difficulty finding the actual
word used in that language?

Sorry to contribute Hebrew literacy
to your thread. I presume you already
have formed an opinion on the question
you proposed and only seek confirmation?
If so forgive my intrusion.

Kaplan translation:

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Miriam and Aaron began speaking against Moses
because of the dark-skinned woman he had married.
The woman that [Moses] had married was indeed dark-skinned.

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dark-skinned

1. Tzipporah was a dark-skinned Midianite (Ibn Ezra; Radak, Sherashim).
2. Kushite in Hebrew, literally Ethiopian (cf. Targum Yonathan; Rashbam; Septuagint). </font>
   1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It is from here that the tradition is derived that after he escaped from Egypt,
      Moses was a ruler in Ethiopia, and married an Ethiopian princess (Rashbam;
      Sefer HaYashar; Divrey Yamim DeMoshe; Yalkut Shimoni 168; Rashbam;
      Josephus, Antiquities 2:10:2).
   </font>
3. Or, 'a beautiful wife' (Targum; Saadia; Rashi; HaKethav VeHaKabbalah);
4. or, 'a distinguished wife' (Rashi).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

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Which is partially why I wrote:
"The incident involving Moses' wife also shows an Arabian Cush. In
Exodus Moses only has one wife, Zipporah the Midianite. Miriam calls
her a Cushite. The extra-Biblical Ethiopian wife does not travel with
Israel in Sinai. Extra-biblical sources do not present her as ever
leaving Ethiopia. So Miriam's Cushite is evidently also a Midianite
and so Habakkuk 3:7 grouping Cushan with Midian."

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Kushi in this case means a darker skinned person not a
member of the political entity Kush (ancient "Sudan").

For more click here Arabian Kush

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It didn't say Kushi...here's the actual wording from The Book of Numbers.

Numbers 12

Here's another...

Numbers 12

And Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married; for he had married a Cushite woman.

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No, I didn't know the actual Hebrew wording...thanks for the clarification. No need to be a smart ass about it though...lol.

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