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I would like to start a thread about some aspects of AE sexuality. Some explicit pics will be added, so if moderators have a problem with it, please remove it.
My infos mainly come from « Les secrets d’Hathor », by Francophone Egyptologist Ruth SCHUMANN ANTELME and Th.OBENGA’s comparative study of conception of sexuality in Ancient Greece & Egypt. Please feel free to discuss any aspects of Aegyptian sexuality.
Feminine Ideal

I get the feeling from artistic depictions that fair complexion was associated with women and hence was probably more preferred slim women with large hips. A NK text called « instructions d’éducation » by SCHUMANN-ANTELME mentions an advice about staying away from foreign (or stranger don’t know the original term) women.

OBENGA pointed out that like in AE, cowries belts were associated with sensuality, feminity and eroticism in modern Black Africa .
cauris as illustrated by pics I will post later.

In the same vein senegalese scholar Aboubacry Moussa LAM pointed out the existence of putting perfumed cones of butter on the top of women in Egypt as well as among modern Fulani and Ethiopians for example.

Masculine ideal
I don’t know much honestly… Papyrus Chester Beatty mentions a girl describing his lover « stretching the skin of his torso » and his height being more impressive than his build. I know Seth complimented Horus about his buttocks but this is male standard so I don’t know. No « 6 packs » apparently from iconographic nor written evidence AFAIK… According to iconographic evidence, large penises seem to have been preferred, as opposed to the situation in Greece (I remember reading some popularization work saying how Greco-Romans considered small penises as a blessing as opposed to large penises which were associated with animals, hence the latter theory about African primitivism).

Expressions

The word Hmty literally « the one from female/feminity/vagina» could mean « she-male, coward, faggot, pussy, etc. »

The word sxty meaning « castrated » was used for impotent men and cowards.

In Pyramid texts, Isis is called « a distended worn out woman » and is ordered to go back to « the place where she’s been crushed and beaten ».

Nephtys is called a « pseudo-woman with no vagina » and is ordered to « go back to the place where her buttocks have been smashed down ».

Thot was called the one with no mother, while the papyrus Jumilhac mentions the nTr Baba saying that Ra’s naos (reservoir) is empty, etc.

A courant insult was apparently to wish somebody was raped by a donkey, etc.



Sexuality in Art

Apparently sexual intercourse was quite rarely depicted in art but some pornographic works remain, most notably the « Erotic Turin papyrus » which shocked CHAMPOLLION. There are also examples of codified ( ?) animal sexual intercourse.


Peculiar Sexual practices

Here are some sexual positions :

Reproductions of the erotic papyrus of Turin:
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Apparently male homosexuality was scorned but still tolerated, especially when it came to the agressor. On the other way the guy who was penetrated was ridiculed and looked down on.

Apparently,

There were words for « male homosexual » and « to sodomize », respectively nkk and nk nkk. I remember alTakruri mentioning one african language using enak for « gay ». Could you tell us what language is it ?

The author mentions a story where King Neferkare was noticed by a servant to have being leaving his palace for many successive nights to go to his general Sisene’s house, coming back to his palace unconfident while everybody progressively became aware of it before it became a scandal.

There are no known words nor iconography attesting female homosexuality, not even in the Turin Papyrus.

Apparently there is only one example of sodomization (heterosexual, here) and none of oral sex in iconography so the author wonders if they had been actual sexual practices in Egypt.

I have a hard time understanding how oral sex was never used to give pleasure in a 3000 years long history so my take on it would be that this and other practices such as lesbianism that didn’t implied penetration by were just considered as tenderness ,maybe expressed with a different concept than nk, and hernce were not depicted in the Turin Papyrus.

Evidence of homosexuality feminine & masculine is amply found during Ptolemaic period, with Alexandria being famous it according to Clement of Alexandria. Claudius PTOLEMY also mentioned that there were masculinized women that lived with « regular » women just like heterosexual couples did.

There were no attestations of pedophilia, in AE, apparently.

The author also says necrophilia was practicized by embalming priests who smelled so much that they were considered repulsive by women.

Conditions of sexual intercourse

Rape was severely sanctioned, and adultery was too but in a way less harsh way.

Prostitution was obviously done in the same ways as today, soliciting, « orders », « brothels », etc.

Thoughts ?

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Lol im saving this.

im gathering up my thoughts and what I know about this so 1 minute please.

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the 3rd pic down why is he looking away didnt he like the sight of his woman lol
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We already had a thread on this that alTakruri began. I'll look it up.
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Fun pics, thanks for sharing! [Big Grin]
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One thing to note is that women in ancient Egyptian society had greater sexual freedom compared to their neigbors in Asia and Europe. Like men, the women could have sexual relations with multiple partners as long as they were not married.

From what we can tell from the texts, homosexuality is a sin, and for a man to be penetrated is disgraceful.

Oh yeah, and sex was not viewed as something bad or dirty but natural and sacred.

Nice thread, although we've discussed the topic a fair number of times before (Thank God for the search engine [Smile] ):

Ancient Egyptian Sexuality (first thread by this title)

Page about sexuality in Ancient Egypt...

The interesting...Kemet

Exotic Erotic Kemet

homosexuality in Ancient Egypt?

KMT and homosexuality

Se* And Booze Figured In Egyptian Rites

TURIN EROTIC PAPYRUS- questions

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Other pics, still from SCHUMANN-ANTELME

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Apparently the depiction of the Neter (Osiris or Gheb) is the only attestation of Oral sex in AE.
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Here are the pics from Th.OBENGA mentioned above:
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I think that the male mummy underwent some sort of
irrumation. I've seen two paintings indicating as much.
In one its poosible that the female's arm is just reaching
behind the mummy and by coincident it just looks like
she's fellating it.

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In the other there's no question the female is fellating the mummy.

quote:
Originally posted by Agluza:
Apparently the depiction of the Neter (Osiris or Gheb) is the only attestation of Oral sex in AE.


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[Eek!] All I gotta say is WOW! [Big Grin]
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Calm down son. It ain't nothing but something to do, that's all.
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get get gettin some head....get get getttin some head loooooool.......
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Where were these oral sex pictures?? No doubt they were stashed away and hidden by the prude Europeans. I know whenever women were present, the Victorian archaeologists would cover certain images that were sexual like the ithyphallic depictions and such.

These were the same people who when they translated Egyptian poems with sexual content, would edit out that content! LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by Agluza:

There were words for « male homosexual » and « to sodomize », respectively nkk and nk nkk. I remember alTakruri mentioning one african language using enak for « gay ». Could you tell us what language it is ?



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I think the word was onek -- sodomizer -- but I won't
reveal the language because of the challenge I issued
when I posted it which still awaits to be taken up.
This much I will say, it's a language of East Africa.

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This old thread also provides much more Turin papyrus resembling reproductions.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000183#000000

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It looks like the AEs could teach us a few techniques. [Smile]
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^LMAO, you posting that, here, is the least expected thing I've ever seen, Hammer!

Can't believe I forgot to respond to this earlier!

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I apologize for the untimely response but I missed this thread the first time through.

It is fascinating (and tittilating [Wink] ) stuff but the references to the Pyramid Texts are misplaced. This utterance is often quoted out of context and I've never seen an expert opinion as to meaning. In context all the sexual references lose their meaning.

Here's the complete utterance;

Utterance 534.

1264a. To say by Horus: May Geb make an offering.
1264b. Be gone, flee (thou) whom Horus guards, whom Set protects;
1264c. be gone, flee, (thou) whom Osiris guards, whom H</u>rti protects;
1265a. be gone, flee, (thou) whom Isis guards, whom Nephthys protects;
1265b. flee, chief, (thou) whom Mḫnti-’irti guards, whom Thot protects;
1265c. be gone, flee (thou) whom the ḫȝ.tiw guard, whom the ’imi.w-’iȝw.w protect.

The king and Gods are responsible for everything in ancient Egypt. This is build up because there is danger present as there always was in the Land of Horus.

1266a. I have come; I have dedicated this house to N.;
1266b. purer is this broad-hall than ḳbḥ.w;
12 66c. at its door (or, entrance) is an obelisk; the door is double (i.e. with two leaves), and is sealed with two evil eyes.

This is detail description of the temple/ pyramid being blessed.

1267a. Let not Osiris come in this his evil coming;
1267b. do not open to him thine arms.
1267c. Let him be gone; let (him) go to Ndi.t; at once; let him be gone to ‘d</u>ȝ.

1268a. Let not Horus come in this his evil coming;
1268b. do not open to him thine arms; that which is said to him is his name of Šp-’iri--šȝȝ.w.
1268c. Let him go to ‘np.t; at once; let him go to N<u>t</u>r.

1269a. Let not Set come in this his evil coming;
1269b. do not open to him thine arms; that which is said to him is his name of śš‘.
1269c. Let him go to d</u>w.t; at once; let him go to Ḥn.t.

1270a. If Mḫnti-’irti comes in this his evil coming;
1270b. do not open to him thine arms; that which is said to him is his name of nš (driveller).
1270c. Let him go to Ddnw-(him whom) they found in (the condition of) quaking;
1270d. at once; let him go to Ḫm.

1271a. If Thot comes in this his evil coming;
1271b. do not open to him thine arms; that which is said to him is his name of "thou hast no mother."
1271c. Let him go; let him be gone to his (?) two ’int.wi; let him go to Buto, to H</u>ri-D</u>ḥwti.

1272a. If Isis comes in this her evil coming;
1272b. do not open to her thine arms; that which is said to her is her name (of) "wide of ḥwȝ-t (evil-smelling)."
1272c. Let her (lit. him) be gone; let her go to the houses of Mȝnw;
1272d. at once; let her go to Ḥ<u>d</u>b.t, to the place where thou hast (she has) been struck.

1273a. If Nephthys comes in this her evil coming;
1273b. that which. is said to her is this her name of "substitute without vulva."
1273c. Go thou to the house of Śerḳet, to the place where thou didst strike thy two ‘nn.twi (thighs?).

These are most of the earthly ennead. They are not suddenly evil. Their efflux though is composed of CO2 and hydrogen sulfide. The CO2 will collect in low lying areas and kill those who enter these areas. Another utterance says the "yeast gas" is a topic of conversation by day and feared by night. When the north wind slows due to cooling at night these pockets of CO2 become much more likely.

1274a. If enemies come with those who are among the elders
1274b. that which is said to them (lit. her) is this their (lit. her) name of Šp-šȝ.w.

The geysers had to be protected against the enemies of the state.

1274c. Go to ---- t</u>w.t.
1275a. If N. comes with his ka;
1275b. the mouth of his gods opens: "(If) he desires to descend to the [underworld, let him descend]
1275c. to the place where there are gods."

The Gods are the duat (D[].t)they exist in the underworld where Osiris rides on the back of Set.

1276a. If N. comes with his ka, open thou thine arms to him;
1276b. the mouth of his gods opens: "(If) he desires to ascend to heaven, let him ascend."
1277a. I am come as judge; may Geb make offerings, and Atum.

The pyramid exist for the ascension of the king on the horizon. The horizon exists on the pyramid. The name of the Great Pyramid in ancient Egypt was "The Horizon of Khufu".

1277b. I consecrate this pyramid, this temple, to N. and to his ka;
1277c. that which this pyramid, this temple, contains is for N. and for his ka;
1277d. pure is this eye (pyramid enclosure) of Horus,
1278a. O may it be pleasing to thee. He who puts his finger against this pyramid, this temple of N. and of his ka;
1278b. he who will put his finger against the house of Horus in ḳbḥ.w,

It is blessed.

1278c. may Nephthys and Isis go against him -------- Geb.

Lost words are likely something like "who would destroy the wing of". The Goddesses are still protecting the pyramid enclosure even while their efflux is hoped to be contained by it.

1279a. His case will be heard by the Ennead,
1279b. he will be without support, his house will be without support;
1279c. he is accursed; he is one who eats his (own) body.

This is simply a curse on those who would do foul to this very important infrastructure.

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Thanks for the data Sam P,

While I agree that the book's intent clearly seems to be popularization, I still don't get the meaning of the expressions cited in context other than as sexual slurs. Do you?

Thanks in advance.

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I'm not sure any of these were designed as a slur. Some of the material in the text might have been intended to be porographic in nature and the utterances in the Pyramid Texts were in the nature of spells to dissuade an evil coming.

Nephthys had a pretty interesting sex life apparently in the legends with some question as to the paternity of her child. The admonitions against all these Gods appear pretty forceful considering they presumably had to stay on their good sides even in their evil comings.

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^^

Thanks for the answer.

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quote:
Originally posted by Agluza:
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I see they liked to exaggerate their imagination.
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^WHAT IF they weren't exaggerating? [Big Grin]
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I see this is one of those topics that gets people into saying how "liberal" ancient Egyptian society was. Again Egyptian society was more 'liberal' compared to contemporary societies in the Near East or in Europe.

Both unmarried women as well as unmarried men were free to engage in sexual relations. This led foreigners such as the Greeks for example to formulate stereotypes that the Egyptians were 'over-sexed' or that virgins didn't exist in Egypt. Far be it from being a sex-crazed society, despite there no rules against pre-marital sex, the Egyptians still maintained a certain code of decorum. And when it came to sex, there was still a belief in moderation for both men and women. Kind of like in Western society except without the double-standard stigma against promiscuous women only, or anything extravagent like orgies etc. Homosexuality was also considered a sin and definitely so was pedophilia, etc.

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http://thenile.phpbb-host.com/phpbb/ftopic2297.php
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alTakruri:
Could you please read your PMs in The Nile Valley forum.

Many thanks in advance,

Egblemaku

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^^Of course such depictions are unrealistic in that there is NO WAY the mens' penises can be that long and big (even for black men)! LOL [Big Grin]

And in the last picture, is that a drink the guy is putting on her butt?! And the picture before that, is that woman straddling a pyramid while putting her make-up on?!!

And I thought the Greeks were wild.

^I think she's cumming.

Also, I recall there is an Egyptian joke about an Egyptian, a Sudanese, and an Arab guy and dong size.

Perhaps ausar can inform us on it.

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This is the article I was reffering to:

[But for all that the pride in being African is unmistakable. At a factory producing alabaster figurines for sale to tourists a Saidi (as the denizens of Upper Egypt are called) points to three phallic figures of different sizes. ``This is Egyptian'', he says pointing to the largest one and then at the middle-sized one, ``that is Nubian''. (The Nubians are the African people who live in the stretch between the southern Egyptian town of Aswan and Sudan). Then pointing to the smallest- sized he says with a smirk, ``And that is Arab''.


http://www.hinduonnet.com/2001/03/28/stories/05281349.htm

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quote:
Originally posted by Agluza:

Here are the pics from Th.OBENGA mentioned above:

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Wow. I'm mad I missed this, but I remember discussing before in another thread that I noticed ancient Egyptian unmarried women and adolescent girls would go unclothed wearing jewelry including special belts decorated with cowrie shells for fertility just like single females in West Africa.

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
I'm mad I missed this, but I remember discussing before in another thread that I noticed ancient Egyptian unmarried women and adolescent girls would go unclothed wearing jewelry including special belts decorated with cowrie shells for fertility just like single females in West Africa.

Another garment possibly associated with young women in Egypt was the shesmet;

" The shesmet is described by P. E. Newberry as “a leather belt from which were suspended narrow strips of hide ending in tassels; sometimes the girdle was ornamented with beads and cowries; sometimes the hanging pieces were decorated with Hathor-heads,” (316). The shesmet, which is worn by Gods such as Horus, Seth, Thoth, Sepa, and Amun, but which is particularly characteristic of Soped, was perhaps originally a garment for unmarried girls."

http://henadology.wordpress.com/theology/netjeru/shesmetet/

I've seen it associated with the menat which is a piece of jewelry worn containing a counterweight by the Mehet Weret as well as Hathor. It was popular in later eras among the people.

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:

Wow. I'm mad I missed this, but I remember discussing before in another thread that I noticed ancient Egyptian unmarried women and adolescent girls would go unclothed wearing jewelry including special belts decorated with cowrie shells for fertility just like single females in West Africa.

You are right about the similarities in the Nile Valley and western Africa, but as far as I know, the belt around the waist are generally beads, and they are worn by married and single women alike.
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http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

On average, the Sudanese have larger ones than Egyptians. Also, SSA mainly differ from all others by the smaller difference in size between the flacid and erect states. North & Horn Africans, Europeans, Asians and Native Americans predominately have the 'blood' penis type which varies more so in length and circumference between the flacid and erect states compared to the predominate SSA type.


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Originally posted by ausar:
This is the article I was reffering to:

[But for all that the pride in being African is unmistakable. At a factory producing alabaster figurines for sale to tourists a Saidi (as the denizens of Upper Egypt are called) points to three phallic figures of different sizes. ``This is Egyptian'', he says pointing to the largest one and then at the middle-sized one, ``that is Nubian''. (The Nubians are the African people who live in the stretch between the southern Egyptian town of Aswan and Sudan). Then pointing to the smallest- sized he says with a smirk, ``And that is Arab''.


http://www.hinduonnet.com/2001/03/28/stories/05281349.htm


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quote:
Originally posted by NonProphet:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

On average, the Sudanese have larger ones than Egyptians. Also, SSA mainly differ from all others by the smaller difference in size between the flacid and erect states. North & Horn Africans, Europeans, Asians and Native Americans predominately have the 'blood' penis type which varies more so in length and circumference between the flacid and erect states compared to the predominate SSA type.

[Eek!] You've got to be joking right? So you're rebuttal to the article featuring what actual rural non-Arab Egyptians say, is to cite a global study on penis sizes?!!
LMAOH
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Sorry but that study, even if it is accurate, in no way refutes the FACT that the Egyptians are still Africans and black! I notice you group North Africans together with Horn Africans even though the Horn is in Sub-Sahara, and the very study you cite shows Horn Africans to have penis sizes smaller than Egyptians while there most of the countries in Sub-Sahara fall within the same range of penis size as Egyptians, 'blood' type or not! The point is there is no separating Africans into "Sub-Saharan" and "North" especially when the Sahara didn't always exist and there is genetic continuation throughout the continent!

Sorry but nice try! Really, I had a good time with this! LOL [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by sam p:

Another garment possibly associated with young women in Egypt was the shesmet;

" The shesmet is described by P. E. Newberry as “a leather belt from which were suspended narrow strips of hide ending in tassels; sometimes the girdle was ornamented with beads and cowries; sometimes the hanging pieces were decorated with Hathor-heads,” (316). The shesmet, which is worn by Gods such as Horus, Seth, Thoth, Sepa, and Amun, but which is particularly characteristic of Soped, was perhaps originally a garment for unmarried girls."

http://henadology.wordpress.com/theology/netjeru/shesmetet/

I've seen it associated with the menat which is a piece of jewelry worn containing a counterweight by the Mehet Weret as well as Hathor. It was popular in later eras among the people.

Thanks a lot for this info, Sam. I've been looking for such for a long time.
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Originally posted by The Explorer:

You are right about the similarities in the Nile Valley and western Africa, but as far as I know, the belt around the waist are generally beads, and they are worn by married and single women alike.

Well I don't know about its use in Egypt, but I know it is a garment worn by single women in West African societies.
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:
Originally posted by NonProphet:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

On average, the Sudanese have larger ones than Egyptians. Also, SSA mainly differ from all others by the smaller difference in size between the flacid and erect states. North & Horn Africans, Europeans, Asians and Native Americans predominately have the 'blood' penis type which varies more so in length and circumference between the flacid and erect states compared to the predominate SSA type.

[Eek!] You've got to be joking right? So you're rebuttal to the article featuring what actual rural non-Arab Egyptians say, is to cite a global study on penis sizes?!!
LMAOH
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Sorry but that study, even if it is accurate, in no way refutes the FACT that the Egyptians are still Africans and black! I notice you group North Africans together with Horn Africans even though the Horn is in Sub-Sahara, and the very study you cite shows Horn Africans to have penis sizes smaller than Egyptians while there most of the countries in Sub-Sahara fall within the same range of penis size as Egyptians, 'blood' type or not! The point is there is no separating Africans into "Sub-Saharan" and "North" especially when the Sahara didn't always exist and there is genetic continuation throughout the continent!

Sorry but nice try! Really, I had a good time with this! LOL [Big Grin]

Yes it must be hilarious when your boyfriend laughs at your 4.2in Filipino penis. Nevertheless, you're probably another White Negrocentric pretender anyways. They do seem to be quite numerous here.

Duhhuti try playing with this website and any raw Autosomal text file instead of your dick and you'll learn what a stupid statement this was, "The point is there is no separating Africans into "Sub-Saharan" and "North" especially when the Sahara didn't always exist and there is genetic continuation throughout the continent!"

http://esquilax.stanford.edu/#start

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:

Well I don't know about its use in Egypt, but I know it is a garment worn by single women in West African societies.

In that bit about both married and single women wearing the belt of beads around their waist, I was actually referring to west Africans.
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^ Thanks for the correction. All of the examples I've seen from West Africa are that of adolescent girls and single women but I guess even married women need luck with fertility.
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Yes it must be hilarious when your boyfriend laughs at your 4.2in Filipino penis. Nevertheless, you're probably another White Negrocentric pretender anyways. They do seem to be quite numerous here.

LOL Oh my! It seems I hit a nerve is it? Funny how you suddenly accuse me of being a homosexual when in fact YOU are the one went out the way to find a global study on dick size. I guess you keep that around when you go on international trips. [Wink]

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Duhhuti try playing with this website and any raw Autosomal text file instead of your dick and you'll learn what a stupid statement this was, "The point is there is no separating Africans into "Sub-Saharan" and "North" especially when the Sahara didn't always exist and there is genetic continuation throughout the continent!"

http://esquilax.stanford.edu/#start

And how is that statement stupid when

1. The Sahara did not always exist.

"The period when sub-Saharan Africa was most influential in Egypt was a time when neither Egypt, as we understand it culturally, nor the Sahara, as we understand it geographically, existed. Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north..." --Joseph O. Vogel

And therefore 2. There is genetic continuity throughout the African continent.

The predominant Y-chromosome in North Africa is E1b1b which is shared with people in Sub-Saharan East Africa. Mitochondrial M1 in Egypt has its highest in Ethiopia, and U6 in northwest Africa is found in Sahelian West Africa.

As for Autosomes, there are plenty including HLA genes that stretch from Sub-Sahara all the way across the Mediterranean into southern Europe. As well as HBS (sickle cell) genes...

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I don't know why you gave that link, since I already know about my population origins, but oh well. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:

^ Thanks for the correction. All of the examples I've seen from West Africa are that of adolescent girls and single women but I guess even married women need luck with fertility.

Even the AE examples could serve as a cue. Have you noticed that the females in the sex images posted above are also wearing the beaded garment? Could it be assumed that these are single women engaging in extra-marital sex?

Here is an example from Congo, which I had also posted on my blog:

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I get the impression these are meant to be a couple, instead of a bachelor and a bachelorette.

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Djehuti

The point is there is no separating Africans into "Sub-Saharan" and "North" especially when the Sahara didn't always exist and there is genetic continuation throughout the continent

Whether the Sahara existed or not in the past has very little relevance. In todays North Africa, the difference in phenotype, culture and language with regard to Sub Sharan Africa, is quite conspicuous to most people.

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Djehuti did you ever screw a black chick?

I can't help you with this, just wondering

Brandon said he's been with two black girls,
one to second base the other a home run

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Djehuti did you ever screw a black chick?

I can't help you with this, just wondering

Brandon said he's been with two black girls,
one to second base the other a home run

Where the hell did I say anything about having had a girlfriend? I've always been single.
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quote:
Originally posted by Truthcentric:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Djehuti did you ever screw a black chick?

I can't help you with this, just wondering

Brandon said he's been with two black girls,
one to second base the other a home run

Where the hell did I say anything about having had a girlfriend? I've always been single.
I didn't say you had a girlfriend. I was talking about the one night stands you mentioned on BlackandWhiteSingles.com,
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^What? LOL!
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:
Originally posted by NonProphet:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

On average, the Sudanese have larger ones than Egyptians. Also, SSA mainly differ from all others by the smaller difference in size between the flacid and erect states. North & Horn Africans, Europeans, Asians and Native Americans predominately have the 'blood' penis type which varies more so in length and circumference between the flacid and erect states compared to the predominate SSA type.

[Eek!] You've got to be joking right? So you're rebuttal to the article featuring what actual rural non-Arab Egyptians say, is to cite a global study on penis sizes?!!
LMAOH
 -

Sorry but that study, even if it is accurate, in no way refutes the FACT that the Egyptians are still Africans and black! I notice you group North Africans together with Horn Africans even though the Horn is in Sub-Sahara, and the very study you cite shows Horn Africans to have penis sizes smaller than Egyptians while there most of the countries in Sub-Sahara fall within the same range of penis size as Egyptians, 'blood' type or not! The point is there is no separating Africans into "Sub-Saharan" and "North" especially when the Sahara didn't always exist and there is genetic continuation throughout the continent!

Sorry but nice try! Really, I had a good time with this! LOL [Big Grin]

I notice that "study" (if it even is reputable) covers only penis length. Isn't it penis girth that's more important? Furthermore, the attached HealthMad article claims that these differences in penis length are entirely the product of Allen's Rule, which states that longer and narrower appendages are more advantageous in hot climates. So if Allen's Rule applies to penises, we should expect tropically adapted people to have longer but thinner penises than cold-adapted people, and frankly I don't see how the former is better than the latter.
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a pencil or a D battery, take your pick
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Truthcentric:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Djehuti did you ever screw a black chick?

I can't help you with this, just wondering

Brandon said he's been with two black girls,
one to second base the other a home run

Where the hell did I say anything about having had a girlfriend? I've always been single.
I didn't say you had a girlfriend. I was talking about the one night stands you mentioned on BlackandWhiteSingles.com,
WTF are you talking about? I've never posted on that website.
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^^^look at this he just deleted the profile, it doesn't come up now.

Alright I shouldn't have mentioned it. I thought you might have been proud of your conquests, my bad

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