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(Posted by Wally (Member # 2936) on 30 October, 2006 02:25 PM:)
I apologize to the veterans on this forum for posting information that they're already familiar with, but I feel it's necessary for the newbies who come here frequently and with confused or distorted notions regarding the Ancient Egyptians, and who often come with the following delusions:
Self-delusion A recent post started out with "Some claim that Kemet means black people". The key word in this first statement is "claim" which is a synonym for "believe", which seeks to place a human language in the same category as religion. One can believe in or not believe in God, that's one thing; but you don't believe that "veni" in Latin means "I came"; you either KNOW it or you don't. However, this delusion leads to one that has been fabricated by the distorters of Egyptology.
Assisted delusion "The Egyptians called their country "Kmt" or "Kemet" which means "Black" after the color of the soil." This is simply an absolute lie. There is nothing in the grammar, even if one were to use an electron microscope to search for an example, that the soil or earth had any connection with the usage of this word. The only references to the soil in the names of Ancient Egypt were the names "TaMeri and TaMere"; "Ta" meaning "earth, land, etc." This mantra is almost always repeated to "inform" the reader of why the word "Black" for Egypt and Egyptians was used, and probably using the age old philosophy that if you repeat a lie often enough, and long enough, it soon becomes accepted as the truth. NOT if one knows better...
KEMET
A comprehensive list of the structure and usages of perhaps the most significant word in the Ancient Egyptian language. All of these words can be found in "An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary" by E. A. Wallis Budge, Dover, NY
Used as an adjective
kem;kemem;kemom - black kemu - black (m) keme.t - black (f) hime.t keme.t - "black woman" (woman of Black) himu.t keme.t - "black women" (women of Black)
Used as a noun
keme.t - any black person, place, or thing
A determinative is then used to be more specific:
keme.t (woman) - "the Black woman"; ie, 'divine woman' keme.t (cow) - "a Black cow" - ie, a 'sacred cow' Keme.t (nation) - "the Black nation"
kem - a black one (m) keme.t - a black one (f) kemu - black ones (m) kemu.t - black ones (f) kemeti - two black ones
Used for Nationality
Sa Kemet - a man of Black (an Egyptian male) Sa.t Kemet - a woman of Black (an Egyptian female) Rome.t n Kemet - the people of Black (Egyptians); Coptic "Rmnk" Kemetou - Blacks (ie, 'citizens') Kememou - Black people (of the Black nation)
Other usages
Sa Kem - "Black man", a god, and son of Sa.t Kem.t - "Black woman", a goddess (page 589b) kem (papyrus) - to end, complete kem.t (papyrus) - the end, completion (kam.ah) kemi - finished products kem khet (stick) - jet black ... kemwer - any Egyptian person, place or thing ('to be black' + 'to be great')
Kemwer - "The Great Black" - a title of Osiris - the Ancestor of the race
Kemwer (body of water) - "the Great Black sea" - the Red sea Kemwer (body of water + river bank) - a lake in the Duat (the OtherWorld) Kemwer Nteri - "the sacred great Black bulls" kemwer (fortress) - a fort or town Kemwer (water) - the god of the great Black lake
Kem Amut - a black animal goddess Kemi.t-Weri.t - "the great Black woman", a goddess Kem-Neb-Mesen.t - a lion god Kem ho - "black face", a title of the crocodile Rerek kem; kemu (shield) - buckler, shield kem (wood) - black wood kem.t (stone) - black stone or powder kem.tt (plant) - a plant kemu (seed) - seeds or fruit of the kem plant kemti - "black image", sacred image or statue
Using the causative "S"
S_kemi - white haired, grey-headed man (ie, to have lost blackness) S_kemkem - to destroy, overthrow, annihilate S_kemem - to blacken, to defile
Antonyms
S_desher - to redden, make ruddy S_desheru - red things, bloody wounds
Some interesting Homonyms (pages 770 > )
qem - to behave in a seemly manner (also kemou) Qemi - the south, Upper Egypt qem.t - reed, papyrus qemaa - to throw a boomerang qem_au - to overthrow qemam.t - mother, parent qemamu - workers (in metal, wood) qemqem - tambourines qemd - to weep qemati - statue, image - same as kemti qema - to create qemaiu - created beings Qemau;Qemamu - The Creator
Deshret - the opposite of Kemet
deshr.t - any red (ie, non-Black) person, place, or thing ... deshr.t (woman) - "the Red woman"; ie, 'evil woman' deshr.t (cow) - "a Red cow" - ie, the 'devil's cow' deshr - a red one (m) deshr.t - a red one (f) deshru - red ones (m) deshru.t - red ones (f) -- White or light-skinned people; devils deshreti - two red ones
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wally, you dufus idiot. Where do you get off misleading these "newbies" with your ignorant rant? Every mainstream egyptologist who has ever lived say it is black soil and black soil it is. Posts: 2036 | From: Texas | Registered: Sep 2009
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NOTE HOW KAMMAU OR "BLACKS" IS CAMOUFLAGED AS "EGYPTIANS"
NOTE: KAMTI OR "BLACK IMAGE" OR "SACRED IMAGE" IS 'REDUCED' TO MERELY "IMAGE"
NOTE HERE HOW "KAMI (KOUI)" OR "BLACK COW" BECOMES 'CREATIVE' WHEN "KAMI (SHOIT)" OR "BLACK BOOK(S)" 'MAGICALLY' BECOMES - "BOOKS OF THE BLACK LAND"; ENTIRELY MADE UP IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE CATECHISM...
KAMI (SHOIT) MEANS "BLACK LITERATURE", PLAIN AND SIMPLE! Posts: 3344 | From: Berkeley | Registered: Oct 2003
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wally, You are so full of baloney someone is going to slap some mustard and bread around you and make a sandwich out of you.
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^ LOL, as usual, I hear childish emotional outbursts, but no scholarship presented to refute the post. Actually, what has been posted is pretty much accepted by the mainstream. Where are your refuting links American Hammer?
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The Ancient Egyptian determinative, determines the specificity of a noun.
Thus, the glyph Rome.t/Lome.t followed by the determinative "man and woman" means that this noun specifically refers to "people":
Rome.t & Lome.t = "People" in Mdu Ntr
Or, the glyph "Kami" or "Black" followed by the determinative "koui" or "cow" clearly specifies that the word means "Black cow."
Now, in the name of their nation - "Kmt" - which is determined by "nw" and NOWHERE within this noun is the Mdu Ntr determinatives for "land"; no "ateb", no "ta" glyphs anywhere, except in the minds of those who wish to insinuate their own ideology into the equation by simply lying...
KM.T (Nu)
NU: VILLAGE, HAMLET, TOWN, CITY, COMMUNITY, SETTLEMENT, NATIVES, URBAN... WHERE'S THE REFERENCE TO 'LAND', 'EARTH'. 'SOIL', 'SILT', 'DIRT' EXCEPT WITHIN THE MINDS OF THE EASILY DELUDED...Posts: 3344 | From: Berkeley | Registered: Oct 2003
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It is mush brain wally and his racist dribble. The Egyptology department at the University of memphis is wrong, and wall is right. Posts: 2036 | From: Texas | Registered: Sep 2009
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Please note that in the seventh glyph above, is the rendering of "Egypt" as "Kamu.t" - and you will not find ANY Egyptologist ANYWHERE who would publicly deny that in the Mdu Ntr that "Kamu" means anything other than "Blacks" - a community/nation...
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: It is mush brain wally and his racist dribble. The Egyptology department at the University of memphis is wrong, and wall is right.
So what did they say? Where are your links and references for review? Same ole lazy bum, right Hammer. LOL, what a dufus!
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: ...The Egyptology department at the University of memphis is wrong, and wall is right.
As you are obviously intellectually null and void, perhaps you might invite comment here from The Egyptology department at the University of memphis on what I have presented in this thread. I would certainly welcome an academic assessment of my presentation of facts as opposed to the whimpering blabberings of an infantile mind, which may in fact be an 'educator' in the United States school system!
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wal,ly, no scholar with a phd in egyptology is going to enter into a conversation with a racist loon who promotes negro mythology. When you post this crap for "newbies" I am going to at least warn them that you are a fraud. hey could spend thir time in a more productive manner on a ufo site.
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If that's your PLAN, I'd suggest you follow up your WARNINGS with some form of rebuttal information since YOU lack a Phd in Egyptology. Perhaps than, someone will actually consider your warnings.
LOL, and I can believe YOU of all people are labelling someone as racist. LMAO!
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