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The Anu of Egypt

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The Anu of Egypt

Professor Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie FRS (3 June 1853 – 28 July 1942); English Egyptologist, describes the Anu in the following terms:
quote:
the word Annu written with three pillars, we find that these people occupied the south
of Egypt and Nubia, the name is also used in the Sinai and Libya. As for the inhabitants
of southern Egypt we have the key document: a portrait of the chief Tera Neter, roughly
modeled in relief in green glazed faience, found in the oldest temple in Abydos. The
address above the name, this primitive business card: 'Palace in the city of Anu Hemen ,
Tera Neter '. Hemen was the name of god Tuphium. Erment, opposite, was the palace of
South Anu Annu Menti. The next town to the south and Aunt (Gefeleyn) then. Aunyt-Seni (Esna) "


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Anuak young ladies
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“The Anuak of the Sobat River (Evans-Pritchard, p.253) recall the proto-historic tribe of Anu (of Osiris’s
ethnicity), who originally occupied the Nile valley” (Diop, 1981, p.121).

To recall means to have knowledge. Thus the Anuak have knowledge about the first and the original
inhabitants of the Nile Valley, Osiris’s tribe the Anu.

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The Great Ancestor Father of Kemet: Osiri Ani (Osiris, the Anu)...
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The face of one of the first kings of Kemet, has been disfigured
by the blowing/chiseling away of the nose; a practice consistently practiced by
foreigners in a vain attempt to blur the Black identity of the Ancient Egyptians
(ethnic/racial jealousy?).

The nose of this colossal African monument is now buried in the basement of the
British museum...


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quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
The face of one of the first kings of Kemet, has been disfigured
by the blowing/chiseling away of the nose; a practice consistently practiced by
foreigners in a vain attempt to blur the Black identity of the Ancient Egyptians
(ethnic/racial jealousy?).

The nose of this colossal African monument is now buried in the basement of the
British museum...


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The Great Sphinx of Giza is the oldest known monumental sculpture, and is commonly believed to have been built by ancient Egyptians of the Old Kingdom in the reign of the pharaoh Khafra.
The nose of the Sphinx of Giza was probably similar to or modeled after Khafra's nose:

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Perhaps the most spectacular statue in 3000 years history of Ancient Egypt.
Khafra owned one of the 3 great pyramids of Gizeh.
You find this statue reproduced on Egyptian banknotes and stamps.
The diorite statue was found in 1850, in the Valley Temple of Khafra, concealed in a pit.

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Although the head of the Sphinx is badly battered in some places, traces of the
original paint can still be seen near one ear. Originally it is believed that the Sphinx was
painted and was quite colorful. Since then, the nose and beard have been broken away.
The nose was the unfortunate victim of target practice by the Turks in the Turkish period.
It is often erroneously assumed that the nose was shot off by Napoleon's men, but 18th
century drawings reveal that the nose was missing long before Napoleon's arrival.

Whether it was Turkish or French desecration is somehow irrelevant; the purpose seems to have been to
disfigure (almost always the nose) the face of this Kemwer or "Great Black", because it does not
even remotely resemble either a Turk or a Frenchman and could cause either of them to be intimidated/envious...

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wally
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Whether it was Turkish or French desecration is somehow irrelevant; the purpose seems to have been to disfigure (almost always the nose) the face of this Kemwer or "Great Black", because it does not even remotely resemble either a Turk or a Frenchman and could cause either of them to be intimidated/envious.
But didn't the Kemeu themselves disfigured some of the statues in other to deny the access into the field of reeds or tomb robbings? ex.Hatshepsut..also when they under go changes like converting to Christianity or Islam.
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the original Sphinx at Giza probably looked like this

The Egyptian Arab historian al-Maqrīzī, writing in the fifteenth century AD, attributes the destruction of the nose to iconoclasm by Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr, a Sufi Muslim fanatic from the khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada. In AD 1378, upon finding the Egyptian peasants making offerings to the Sphinx in the hope of increasing their harvest, Sa'im al-Dahr was so outraged that he destroyed the nose, and was hanged for vandalism.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:

But didn't the Kemeu themselves disfigured some of the statues in other to deny the
access into the field of reeds or tomb robbings? ex.Hatshepsut..also when they under
go changes like converting to Christianity or Islam.

Of course the Kememou engaged in such practices, but what exactly is your point?

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Ha! Ha! Ha! Guess The Lion hasn't seen the video cfing Khafra and the Sphink. He doesn't know they are two DIFFERENT people/or representation.
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the original Sphinx at Giza probably looked like this


For the illierate.. . .any questions



Burial practices of the Final Neolithic pastoralists at Gebel Ramlah, Western Desert of Egypt


Michał Kobusiewicz, Jacek Kabaciński, Romuald Schild, Joel D. Irish and Fred Wendorf

During three seasons of research (in 2000, 2001 and 2003) carried out by the Combined Prehistoric Expedition at Gebel Ramlah in the southern part of the Egyptian Western Desert, three separate Final Neolithic cemeteries were discovered and excavated. Skeletal remains of 67 individuals, comprising both primary and secondary interments, were recovered from 32 discrete burial pits. Numerous grave goods were found, including lithics, pottery and ground stone objects, as well as items of personal adornment, pigments, shells and sheets of mica. Imports from distant areas prove far-reaching contacts. Analysis of the finds sheds important light on the burial rituals and social conditions of the Final Neolithic cattle keepers inhabiting Ramlah Playa. This community, dated to the mid-fifth millennium B.C. (calibrated), was composed of a phenotypically diverse population derived from both North and sub-Saharan Africa. *****There were no indications of social differentiation.***** The deteriorating climatic conditions probably forced these people to migrate toward the Nile Valley where they undoubtedly contributed to the birth of ancient Egyptian civilization.

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Egypt and Nubia in the 5th–4th millennia BC: A view from the First Cataract and its surroundings
Gatto, M. C. 2009

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The Egyptians were mainly officials and soldiers and thus male; the female component appears to have been for the most part local and thus Nubian. The New Kingdom situation may seem very similar to that of the Predynastic period, but this might not actually be the case. The communities Smith analysed were clearly Egyptian or Nubian, and they adjusted their ethnic affiliation in a rather opportunistic way. In the Predynastic period, the Egyptian and Nubian identities still shared many common traits derived from a common ancestry. The Naqada culture developed from the Badarian culture which, as the Tasian, was related to the Nubian Neolithic tradition (Gatto 2002; 2006c). Thus, the definition of what was Egyptian or Nubian at that time in the First Cataract region (and the southern part of Upper Egypt) is not so obvious: are the local cooking pots (shale-tempered ware), for example, Egyptian or Nubian?

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The Early Dynastic administrative-cultic centre
at Tell el-Farkha
Krzysztof M. Ciałowicz


Representations of naked women continued to be popular in the Protodynastic and Early Dynastic periods. A badly damaged figurine of bone showing a naked woman with her hands held along the sides of the body comes from the Early Dynastic deposit at Tell Ibrahim Awad (Belova and Sherkova 2002, photo 55). A few examples are also known from the Main Deposit at Hierakonpolis. To this group belongs, among others, a figurine in the Petrie Museum (Adams 1974, cat. no. 360, pls. 44–45). This large (20 cm high) ivory figurine depicts a standing naked woman. Despite the fact that both her hands are broken off, it is evident that the left arm was bent at the elbow and held below the breasts, while the right arm hung along the side of the body; the right hand on the right thigh is preserved with carefully modelled fingers. The face is distinctively modelled, with almond-shaped eyes, a relatively wide nose and thick lips. Also of interest is the hairdo: the long hair or wig extends to the figure’s waist, with the individual waves of hair represented by horizontal lines. This sculpture is therefore very similar to both of those found at Tell el-Farkha (Fig. 18). The majority of figurines from Hierakonpolis are in the Ashmolean Museum (Capart 1905, figs. 132–33), and amongst them are representations of naked women, in poses identical to those from Tell el-Farkha, as well as some dressed in long robes also like the examples from Tell el-Farkha.



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quote:
Originally posted by the lion:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
The face of one of the first kings of Kemet, has been disfigured
by the blowing/chiseling away of the nose; a practice consistently practiced by
foreigners in a vain attempt to blur the Black identity of the Ancient Egyptians
(ethnic/racial jealousy?).

The nose of this colossal African monument is now buried in the basement of the
British museum...


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The Great Sphinx of Giza is the oldest known monumental sculpture, and is commonly believed to have been built by ancient Egyptians of the Old Kingdom in the reign of the pharaoh Khafra.
The nose of the Sphinx of Giza was probably similar to or modeled after Khafra's nose:

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Perhaps the most spectacular statue in 3000 years history of Ancient Egypt.
Khafra owned one of the 3 great pyramids of Gizeh.
You find this statue reproduced on Egyptian banknotes and stamps.
The diorite statue was found in 1850, in the Valley Temple of Khafra, concealed in a pit.


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Wally
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Of course the Kememou engaged in such practices, but what exactly is your point?
That much of the destruction may have came form the locals themselves for the above stated reasons the Sufi fanatic khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada was he a foreigner?? or a converted local?? he supposedly got upset because the people was still making prayers to it.mind you I am not letting foreigners off the hook but they are not alone in responsibility.
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Why are people STILL claiming the Hr-m-akht (Mukulu Mu Lukendu) is Khafra? THis is just rediculus:

Mystery of the Sphink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPsAskGCluw&feature=related

Here a forensic artist debunks that myth.

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quote:
Originally posted by Asar Imhotep:
Why are people STILL claiming the Hr-m-akht (Mukulu Mu Lukendu) is Khafra? THis is just rediculus:

Mystery of the Sphink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPsAskGCluw&feature=related

Here a forensic artist debunks that myth.

according to the video you posted the forensic artist concluded that the sculpture of Khafra compared to the Sphinx

shows that "the two faces are not even from the same race”

I would argue that they probably are of the same race

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quote:
Originally posted by Asar Imhotep:
Why are people STILL claiming the Hr-m-akht (Mukulu Mu Lukendu) is Khafra? THis is just rediculus:

Mystery of the Sphink
...
Here a forensic artist debunks that myth.

This video actually supports the possibility that the image could be that of Khafre.
It demonstrates that the head of the sphinx is a recent addition/modification attached
to the original which could conceivably date back to c11,000 B.C. Any pharaoh could, if he
so chooses, replace the original head with an image of his own!

The forensic expert, in this case, bases his assumptions on a single image of Khafre,
the one in the Cairo museum, when there are other images of Khafre (ignoring also that
the 4th dynasty was a dynasty - thus Snefru, Khufu, Kauab, Djedefre, khafre, Bakare,
Menkaure, Shepseskaf, Djedefptah - were all members of the same family!!!)

Other images of Khafre
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quote:
Originally posted by Wally:

It demonstrates that the head of the sphinx is a recent addition/modification attached
to the original

you don't believe that nonsense do you?
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quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
Anuak young ladies
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“The Anuak of the Sobat River (Evans-Pritchard, p.253) recall the proto-historic tribe of Anu (of Osiris’s
ethnicity), who originally occupied the Nile valley” (Diop, 1981, p.121).

To recall means to have knowledge. Thus the Anuak have knowledge about the first and the original
inhabitants of the Nile Valley, Osiris’s tribe the Anu.

I had read somewhere there was also a tribe or people supposedly called Uaka or Wawak south of Egypt - which sounds more likely. On the other hand some say Wawak was Wawat.
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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
I had read somewhere there was also a tribe or people supposedly called Uaka or Wawak south of Egypt - which sounds more likely. On the other hand some say Wawak was Wawat.

In Budge's dictionary vol II, there are numerous names of peoples living in the interior; a
land that was referred to as Ethaosh ("the interior") and Tanoute ("God's Land") and TaNtr
("Land of the Ancestors). Some of these ethnic groups were the:

Wawat ("Rebels")

Irtjet

Zatju

Kaau

Matoi (also M'djaiu)

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Seriously Wally

You need to stop posting all this trying to educate these clown. You are not fluent like I am in WaWak or Uaka. I was a little Wawak warrior every since I came to existence. I know our language thick and thick and you will see in my translations.

See my Translations here:

WaWat= What What (Like Wzup My Nigga)

Irtjet= Urgent (like its Irtjet I get some Weed)

Zatju= That you (Like Knock, Knock Mofo That You)

Kaau= Like The sound of the vulture Kaau

Matoi= My Toy (like you keep being a nigger, and Imma go and get "Matoi".

Glad that I could be of help to those out there who really want to be learned man with sage Minds.

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I'd rather be dead for ever nigger born and bread. I rather live long to see those old black Niggers gone.-My Niggah My Nutz

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The first Pharaohs

Meni - of the 1st family dynasty
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Khasekhem - of the 2nd family dynasty
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Djoser - of the 3rd family dynasty
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Shepseskaf - of the 4th family dynasty
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Djedefre - of the 4th family dynasty
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Khafre - of the 4th family dynasty
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Sahure - of the 5th family dynasty

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Move it up.

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The first Pharaohs -
Obviously Black Africans; from the beginning to the end of Pharaonic Egyptian civilization.

Meni - of the 1st family dynasty
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Khasekhem - of the 2nd family dynasty
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Djoser - of the 3rd family dynasty
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Shepseskaf - of the 4th family dynasty
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Djedefre - of the 4th family dynasty
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Khafre - of the 4th family dynasty
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Sahure - of the 5th family dynasty

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Move it up...again
This forum is Egyptology

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Ahhh, my favorite Egyptian period.

Diop said these people were worshipers of Set and the originators of Coming Forth By Day, which I found confusing.
That is until I understood how Set had been corrupted by foreign influences and his role transformed closer to a cross between Loki, Hades, and the modern day Satan.

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quote:
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Move it up...again

This forum is Egyptology

it is NOT about; Mozabite Berbers, or Iraq's Blacks, or...

and if anyone is confused in 2010 about what a Black person is, should immediately seek
psychiatric help, making sure to also bring along with them the idiot who posted
"Why do Afrocentrists pass off this head bust as Negro?" -

because it's a royal bust from a Negro civilization you dumb m...


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quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
Professor Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie FRS (3 June 1853 – 28 July 1942); English Egyptologist, describes the Anu in the following terms:
quote:
the word Annu written with three pillars, we find that these people occupied the south
of Egypt and Nubia, the name is also used in the Sinai and Libya. As for the inhabitants
of southern Egypt we have the key document: a portrait of the chief Tera Neter, roughly
modeled in relief in green glazed faience, found in the oldest temple in Abydos. The
address above the name, this primitive business card: 'Palace in the city of Anu Hemen ,
Tera Neter '. Hemen was the name of god Tuphium. Erment, opposite, was the palace of
South Anu Annu Menti. The next town to the south and Aunt (Gefeleyn) then. Aunyt-Seni (Esna) "


I've been looking in Petrie's books and I can find no such quote.

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I could be wrong. please cite book title and page number of above quote, thank you

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
Professor Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie FRS (3 June 1853 – 28 July 1942); English Egyptologist, describes the Anu in the following terms:
quote:
the word Annu written with three pillars, we find that these people occupied the south
of Egypt and Nubia, the name is also used in the Sinai and Libya. As for the inhabitants
of southern Egypt we have the key document: a portrait of the chief Tera Neter, roughly
modeled in relief in green glazed faience, found in the oldest temple in Abydos. The
address above the name, this primitive business card: 'Palace in the city of Anu Hemen ,
Tera Neter '. Hemen was the name of god Tuphium. Erment, opposite, was the palace of
South Anu Annu Menti. The next town to the south and Aunt (Gefeleyn) then. Aunyt-Seni (Esna) "


I've been looking in Petrie's books and I can find no such quote.

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I could be wrong. please cite book title and page number of above quote, thank you

You are wrong. You can find irrelevant images but you seem to display an inability to read...

Petrie, The Making of Egypt, 1939
Page 68

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The French Egyptologist Abbe Émile Amélineau, who is claimed to have discovered
the reference to the Anu, essentially says the same thing :
quote:
These Anu were agricultural people, raising cattle on a large scale along the Nile,
shutting themselves up in walled cities for defensive purposes. To this people we can
attribute, without fear of error, the most ancient Egyptian books, The Book of the Dead and
the Texts of the Pyramids, consequently, all the myths or religious teachings. I would add
almost all the philosophical systems then known and still called Egyptian. They evidently
knew the crafts necessary for any civilization and were familiar with the tools those trades
required. They knew how to use metals, at least elementary metals. They made the earliest
attempts at writing, for the whole Egyptian tradition attributes this art to Thoth, the great
Hermes an Anu like Osiris, who is called Onian in Chapter XV of The Book of the Dead and in
the Texts of the Pyramids. Certainly the people already knew the principal arts; it left proof
of this in the architecture of the tombs at Abydos, especially the tomb of Osiris and in those
sepulchers objects have been found bearing unmistakable stamp of their origin, such as
carved ivory, or a little head of a Nubian (Negro) girl found in a tomb near that of
Osiris, or the small wooden or ivory receptacles in the form of a feline head--all documents
published in the first volume of my Fouilles d'Abydos.


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These are images of the Anu (Negroes, Blacks, Nubians, Ancient Egyptians, Black
Africans; whatever you want to call them...)

Osiris
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The Great Sphinx...

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Thanks for the teaching.

From what I gather about the Anu, They were Blacks who created most of what made Egypt Famous. We really need to see more of these people and there history in Egypt.

The pic of osirus I know very well. I use it alot. Becareful because some people try to claim that it was created in the 25th Dynasty.

Keep doing you and bringing respect back to this forum.

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quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Wally

Thanks for the teaching.

From what I gather about the Anu, They were Blacks who created most of what made Egypt Famous. We really need to see more of these people and there history in Egypt.

The pic of osirus I know very well. I use it alot. Becareful because some people try to claim that it was created in the 25th Dynasty.

Keep doing you and bringing respect back to this forum.

Peace

Mike says this statue is from the Greek period, after the last 31st dynasty, after the dynastic period. He's right
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Eventually, in Egypt, the Hellenic pharaohs decided to produce a deity that would be acceptable to both the local Egyptian population, and the influx of Hellenic visitors, to bring the two groups together, rather than allow a source of rebellion to grow. Thus Osiris was identified explicitly with Apis, really an aspect of Ptah, who had already been identified as Osiris by this point, and a combination of the two was created, known as Serapis, and depicted as a standard Greek god.


The cult of Osiris continued up until the 6th century AD on the island of Philae in Upper Nile.

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Earlier statue of Osiris:

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STATUE OF OSIRIS
painted gesso on wood
Egypt, Third Intermediate Period, 1069-664 BC

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Émile Amélineau work as an Egyptologist was not as systematic nor as scientific as the work of later excavators. As an example, 18 of the 20 ivory and ebony labels describing key events in the reign of the pharaoh Den known to come from that king's tomb were found by Flinders Petrie in the spoil heaps left by Amélineau's earlier excavation of that tomb.
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The Tomb of Djer and Later,
The Tomb of Osiris at Abydos
by Peter Rome

The termination of the Festival of Osiris at Abydos, doubtless a major celebration from at least the late Middle Kingdom onward, was what we today recognize as Tomb O belonging to the 1st Dynasty king, Djer. However, it was mistaken for the tomb of Osiris in antiquity, as well as by its initial discoverer, Emile Amelineau. Emile Amelineau would experience a very brief carrier as an excavator of archaeological sites in Egypt. Born in 1850, he initially worked for the French Catholic Church before studying Egyptology. Afterwards, he went to work for the French Archaeological Mission in Cairo as a specialist in the Coptic language and the history of the Egyptian Christian church. How he ended up at Abydos in 1895 with a five year exclusive contract for excavation is questionable, but apparently he had made a friend of Victor Loret, who was then the director of the Egyptian Antiquity Service. This was certainly a mistake. Amelineau was a poor archaeologist who, after initially examining sites near the modern villages next to Abydos, moved to Umm el Ga'ab (the Mother of Pots, ancient Peqer) in 1896, and there, on New Years Day in 1898, discovered the "Tomb of Osiris". This area was simply loaded with artifacts, and hence its name. It had long been known to locals as a source of antiquities, and there was evidently a custom in the nearby villages to go there on Good Friday to obtain playthings for the children!

Amelienau completely cleared the tomb between January 1st and 12th, discarding whole piles of artifacts and retaining only largely complete objects.
Many other items were simply overlooked or ignored.

However, on January 2nd, 1898, Amelineau made his most impressive discovery within this tomb. Near the southwest corner of the tomb, his workmen unearthed a large black basalt sculpture lying on its left side upon a brier. Similar to the couch from the tomb of Tutankhamen, the two sides of the brier were formed by the bodies of two lions, with hawks, representing the god Horus, guarding each corner. The statue upon the brier depicted the god Osiris, with a kite, representing Isis, straddling the god's loins in order to impregnate herself with the seed that would become Horus. Amelineau also found a skull in chamber "D" on the east side of the site, and based on a votive ostraca found on the desert floor above the tomb, the brier sculpture of Osiris and his belief that the entrance stairway to the sepulcher was "the staircase of the Great God" mentioned in texts referring to the Osiris cult, he soon declared the tomb to be that of Osiris, and the skull to belong to the god himself. Hence, Amelineau believed that Osiris was an actual historical figure. He even believed that a huge tomb cleared between 1896 and 1897 was the final resting place of both Horus and Set, Osiris' son and brother, respectively. In all fairness, Egyptologists have, with no specific evidence, questioned the possibility that the legends surrounding these gods might reference real legendary individuals of Egypt's predynastic period. The ancient Egyptian's certainly thought that Osiris had once been a worldly figure, for in one tale we find Osiris being dismembered by his brother Set, with his body parts spread about Egypt in various tombs. In fact, they believed that this specific tomb might have held his head! Yet the Frenchmen Amelineu's conclusions were met with academic skepticism to say the least. Even during this period, the skull was professionally examined and shown to be probably that of a woman, though this does not seem to have altered Amelineau's original conclusions. In 1899, Gaston Maspero became, for the second time, director of the Egyptian Antiquities Service, which administrated archaeological digs in Egypt at that time, replacing Victor Loret. For some time, William Flinders Petrie had been attempting to gain permission to excavate at Abydos, but was frustrated by Amelineau's five year permit. Loret had refused to overturn his decision even though the Egypt Exploration Fund made an application on behalf of Petrie. However, once Maspero, who even though French himself, was a vice president of the British Egypt Exploration Fund, took back control of the Egyptian Antiquities Service, the way was cleared for Petrie. Yet even with this change of administrations, Petrie began his work in secrecy so as not to stir up too much trouble. At the time, Amelineau had returned to France and when he learned of this reversal in March 1900, it was already too late for him to fight decision.



Maspero's decision to allow Petrie a permit to excavate at Abydos was fortuitous, for he was one of Egyptology's best during those early years. During the 1899-1900 and 1900-1901 seasons, Petri completely re-excavated the tombs that Amelineau has previously cleared.

Petrie also recognized that the "Tomb of Osiris" was actually the burial site of Horus Djer, the third king of the 1st Dynasty. To give Amelineau some credit, a second excavation of the Djer tomb revealed that it had been modified in antiquity to serve as a Tomb of Osiris. The Osiris Bed, which was studied by the English Egyptologist Anthony Leahy, was dedicated by King Khendjer of the 13th Dynasty, and an entrance staircase had been added for the convenience of pilgrims to the site. It is sometimes difficult for us to completely comprehend the great antiquity of Egypt. Consider the fact that by Egypt's 12th Dynasty, some of the tombs of the 1st Dynasty (and earlier) kings of Egypt at Abydos were already over one thousand years old. Yet the Egyptians of that later period in the Middle Kingdom knew that Umm el Ga'ab held the gravesites of Egypt's first kings and thus, they believed, of Osiris himself. These Egyptians investigated this necropolis around the 11th Dynasty, and though we do not know what sort of evidence they used to make their selection, chose the Tomb of Djer as that of Osiris.

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Anu was one of the oldest gods in the Sumerian pantheon, and part of a triad including Enlil, god of the sky and Enki, god of water.
He was called Anu by the Akkadians.

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bronze head of Akkadian ruler

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Ancient Sumerian seal depicting Annunaki


The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian deities. The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na", meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood'

According to later Babylonian myth, the Anunnaki were the children of Anu and Ki, brother and sister gods, themselves the children of Anshar and Kishar (Skypivot and Earthpivot, the Celestial poles), who in turn were the children of Lahamu and Lahmu ("the muddy ones"), names given to the gatekeepers of the Abzu temple at Eridu, the site at which the creation was thought to have occurred. Finally, Lahamu and Lahmu were the children of Tiamat and Abzu

In Akkadian mythology, Anshar (also spelled Anshur), which means "sky pivot" or "sky axle", is a sky god. He is the husband of his sister Kishar

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Anshar standing on a bull. Excavated from one of the ancient capitals of Assyria, Assur.

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What are the inscrriptions on this artifact which claim that it is depicting Annunaki?

I donot see this name here. You can read my decipherment of some of the Sumerian seals here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28406787/Proto-Saharan-Writing


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I posted this topic on 10 November 2004...

The Anu People
The most significant fact of the founding of Pharaonic Civilization by the Anu people is rarely,
if ever, mentioned in texts on Ancient Egypt. Not to mention the Anu is actually worse than,
say, writing a history of the United States of America and not mentioning the Pilgrims (aka
"Founders"/"Forefathers"). One has to look at earlier texts for this vital information:
The French Egyptologist Abbe Émile Amélineau is credited with the discovery of the Anu and
their contribution to Egyptian civilization. It was Amélineau who designated the first black
race to occupy Egypt as the Anu. He showed how they came slowly down the Nile and
founded the cities of Esneh, Erment, Qouch and Heliopolis...

From Amélineau:
quote:

These Anu were agricultural people, raising cattle on a large scale along the Nile, shutting
themselves up in walled cities for defensive purposes. To this people we can attribute,
without fear of error, the most ancient Egyptian books, The Book of the Dead and the Texts of
the Pyramids, consequently, all the myths or religious teachings. I would add almost all the
philosophical systems then known and still called Egyptian. They evidently knew the crafts
necessary for any civilization and were familiar with the tools those trades required. They
knew how to use metals, at least elementary metals. They made the earliest attempts at
writing, for the whole Egyptian tradition attributes this art to Thoth, the great Hermes an Anu
like Osiris, who is called Onian in Chapter XV of The Book of the Dead and in the Texts of the
Pyramids. Certainly the people already knew the principal arts; it left proof of this in the
architecture of the tombs at Abydos, especially the tomb of Osiris and in those sepulchers
objects have been found bearing unmistakable stamp of their origin, such as carved ivory, or
a little head of a Nubian girl found in a tomb near that of Osiris, or the small wooden or ivory
receptacles in the form of a feline head--all documents published in the first volumn of my
Fouilles d'Abydos.

From the Kememu:
Anu the city of Heliopolis (Coptic; On)
Anu Meh Anu of the north (Heliopolis)
Anu Shemo Anu of the south (Hermonthis/Ermant)
Anu Monti Anu of Hermonthis
Anu Tem the Anu of Tem (Hermonthis)
Anu Re the Anu of Re
Afdu Ikhu the Four Ancestors (of the Anu)
Ugrit Goddess of the Duat of Anu
Djandjané Anu the Anu Court of Judges: Tem; Shu; Tefnut; Osiris; Thoth
Anu n Ptoh the Anu of Ptah (Denderah)
Anu n Nut the Anu of Nut (Denderah)

Denderah:
Judging by the sheer number of given titles, the most venerated city of Kemet was not
Thebes, but Denderah. After all, this was the city where the Parents of the Kememou nation
(Isis and Osiris) were born. (It is also in the same neighborhood as Naqada). Here are some of
the titles of this city:
"The birthplace of Isis"
"The Throne of the Queen"
"The perfect throne in the Holy of Holies"
"The place of joy"
"The thrones of Horus"
"The holy temple of Horus"
"The throne of eternity"
"The throne of the drink"
"The birthplace of Nut"
"The Golden House"
"The Sanctuary of Osiris"
"The Sanctuary of Re"
"The city of the knowing of Isis"
"The temple of life"
"The temple of Hathor"
"The eternal house"
"The exalted temple"
"The holy temple of Horus of the Two-Lands"
"The house of knowledge" (per Rekhit)

The Sudanese Country of Bukem (Buqem):
This country was where the worship of the gods Hathor, Shu, Tefnut, etc., originated and
spread down the Nile Valley. (An Anu country?)

Kas (Kos) - Capital of the 14th *state of southern Kemet:
The word Kas, symbolized by a man astride two mythological creatures with their necks
entwined and bound together, and the largest word on Narmer's palette of unification,
means "Political Union." This particular state was situated roughly half the distance between
the north-south borders of southern Kemet. It would be interesting to find the significance of
its being named Kas (the south being unified first?)...

*Kemet consisted of 42 states and governors; 22 located in the south and 20 in the north.

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Émile Amélineau didn't know his ass from his elbow
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Why would you say something like that about Émile Amélineau. Do you have some kind of info that shows he was wrong in what he said.

No problems just asking.

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quote:
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the lioness

Why would you say something like that about Émile Amélineau. Do you have some kind of info that shows he was wrong in what he said.

No problems just asking.

Peace

Read my earlier post about Émile Amélineau's incompetence in both managing excavations and interpreting Osiris.
Émile Amélineau's remarks about an anu people are not supported by archaeologically evidence.
He was a freestyler tripping off his own shyt.


Anu was one of the oldest gods in the Sumerian mythology,
The children of Anu and Ki were called the Anunnaki.
Anu and Ki were brother and sister gods. They were the children of Anshar and Kishar , who were the children of Lahamu and Lahmu,
Sumerian Gods.
This mythology is verified in Sumerian texts.

What Émile Amélineau made up about an anu people was due to getting high off some herb he sampled in Cairo.

Some scholars of Amélineau's time spoke of the Anu people as people in predynatic times who were defeated by the Egyptians.
To resurrect these various unsupported vague speculations by certain 19th century Egyptologists is not good scholarship.

There is a proper terminology for pre dyanstic culture in Egypt such as:

Khormusan -40,000 and 30,000 BC !
Qadan and Sebilian
Mushabian
Harifian
Faiyum A
Merimde
El Omari
Maadi

Tasian
Badarian
Amratian (Naqada I)
Gerzean (Naqada II)
Naqada III (Protodynastic, Semainean)

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quote:
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What are the inscrriptions on this artifact which claim that it is depicting Annunaki?

I donot see this name here. You can read my decipherment of some of the Sumerian seals here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28406787/Proto-Saharan-Writing


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as below the sun form in this seal describes Shamash the common Akkadian name of the sun god and god of justice in Babylonia and Assyria, corresponding to Sumerian Utu.

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Together with Nannar-Sin and Ishtar, Shamash completes another triad by the side of Anu, Enlil and Ea all Anunnaki:
Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian deities.

Or do you have some other identification of these seals? I can't get the video you linked, only if it's a youtube
The explanation of the symbols in these seals is regardless of the fact that the Sumerians had a deity called Anu who was a part of a group of deities called Anunnaki.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
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What are the inscrriptions on this artifact which claim that it is depicting Annunaki?

I donot see this name here. You can read my decipherment of some of the Sumerian seals here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28406787/Proto-Saharan-Writing


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as below the sun form in this seal describes Shamash the common Akkadian name of the sun god and god of justice in Babylonia and Assyria, corresponding to Sumerian Utu.

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Together with Nannar-Sin and Ishtar, Shamash completes another triad by the side of Anu, Enlil and Ea all Anunnaki:
Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian deities.

Or do you have some other identification of these seals? I can't get the video you linked, only if it's a youtube
The explanation of the symbols in these seals is regardless of the fact that the Sumerians had a deity called Anu who was a part of a group of deities called Anunnaki.

Shamesh has nothing to do with Annunaki.

I did not link a video.

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quote:
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the original Sphinx at Giza probably looked like this

I wish upon a star... [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:


the original topic looked like this but let's bring up a different one

I wish upon a star... rolleyes:(white body language)[/QUOTE]
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
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What are the inscrriptions on this artifact which claim that it is depicting Annunaki?

I donot see this name here. You can read my decipherment of some of the Sumerian seals here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28406787/Proto-Saharan-Writing


.

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as below the sun form in this seal describes Shamash the common Akkadian name of the sun god and god of justice in Babylonia and Assyria, corresponding to Sumerian Utu.

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Together with Nannar-Sin and Ishtar, Shamash completes another triad by the side of Anu, Enlil and Ea all Anunnaki:
Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian deities.

Or do you have some other identification of these seals? I can't get the video you linked, only if it's a youtube
The explanation of the symbols in these seals is regardless of the fact that the Sumerians had a deity called Anu who was a part of a group of deities called Anunnaki.

According to Petrie the followers of Horus (Kings Scorpion I , II and Narmer) have origins in Elam/Punt which is SW Iran and Uruk (Iraq) to him. This was his Dynastic Race theory. The 'Aunu'('Set' worshippers) were the aboriginal people that were conquered by Horus worshippers.

Here is a Uruk Cylinder seal with a striking similarity to the image on the back of the Narmer Palette.

Uruk Seal

Narmer Palette

There is no link to the 'Anuak' and the only image of Narmer is on his Palette. Don't believe the lies of Billy 'Shoe Salesman' Gambela AKA 'Wally'

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
I wish upon a star

Yes, continue to wish, yet prove no evidence, for your rainbow society theory. [Roll Eyes]
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Ani; a man of On or Denderah - the plural (men) would be Anu
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various expressions for an Ani or the Anu...
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Narmer's tablet shows two individuals binding together two giraffes, in order to elaborate literally
the binding together of the two lands; the valley and the delta (two lions with giraffe necks)...but here's its essential
glyph...

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hence...

Anu the city of Heliopolis (Coptic; On)
Anu Meh Anu of the north (Heliopolis)
Anu Shemo Anu of the south (Hermonthis/Ermant)
Anu Monti Anu of Hermonthis
Anu Tem the Anu of Tem (Hermonthis)
Anu Re the Anu of Re
Afdu Ikhu the Four Ancestors (of the Anu)
Ugrit Goddess of the Duat of Anu
Djandjané Anu the Anu Court of Judges: Tem; Shu; Tefnut; Osiris; Thoth
Anu n Ptoh the Anu of Ptah (Denderah)
Anu n Nut the Anu of Nut (Denderah)

Denderah:
Judging by the sheer number of given titles, the most venerated city of Kemet was not
Thebes, but Denderah. After all, this was the city where the Parents of the Kememou nation
(Isis and Osiris) were born. (It is also in the same neighborhood as Naqada). Here are some of
the titles of this city:
"The birthplace of Isis"
"The Throne of the Queen"
"The perfect throne in the Holy of Holies"
"The place of joy"
"The thrones of Horus"
"The holy temple of Horus"
"The throne of eternity"
"The throne of the drink"
"The birthplace of Nut"
"The Golden House"
"The Sanctuary of Osiris"
"The Sanctuary of Re"
"The city of the knowing of Isis"
"The temple of life"
"The temple of Hathor"
"The eternal house"
"The exalted temple"
"The holy temple of Horus of the Two-Lands"
"The house of knowledge" (per Rekhit)

The Sudanese Country of Bukem (Buqem):
This country was where the worship of the gods Hathor, Shu, Tefnut, etc., originated and
spread down the Nile Valley. (An Anu country?)

Kas (Kos) - Capital of the 14th *state of southern Kemet:
The word Kas, symbolized by a man astride two mythological creatures with their necks
entwined and bound together, and the largest word on Narmer's palette of unification,
means "Political Union." This particular state was situated roughly half the distance between
the north-south borders of southern Kemet. It would be interesting to find the significance of
its being named Kas (the south being unified first?)...

*Kemet consisted of 42 states and governors; 22 located in the south and 20 in the north.

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According to Petrie the followers of Horus (Kings Scorpion I , II and Narmer) have origins in Elam/Punt which is SW Iran and Uruk (Iraq) to him. This was his Dynastic Race theory. The 'Aunu'('Set' worshippers) were the aboriginal people that were conquered by Horus worshippers.

Here is a Uruk Cylinder seal with a striking similarity to the image on the back of the Narmer Palette.

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There is no link to the 'Anuak' and the only image of Narmer is on his Palette. Don't believe the lies of Billy 'Shoe Salesman' Gambela AKA 'Wally'

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this is Wally? Billy seems more into DNA than Wally. Wally more of a dictionary based bro

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Originally posted by NonProphet:





According to Petrie the followers of Horus (Kings Scorpion I , II and Narmer) have origins in Elam/Punt which is SW Iran and Uruk (Iraq) to him. This was his Dynastic Race theory. The 'Aunu'('Set' worshippers) were the aboriginal people that were conquered by Horus worshippers.

Here is a Uruk Cylinder seal with a striking similarity to the image on the back of the Narmer Palette.

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There is no link to the 'Anuak' and the only image of Narmer is on his Palette. Don't believe the lies of Billy 'Shoe Salesman' Gambela AKA 'Wally'

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this is Wally? Billy seems more into DNA than Wally. Wally more of a dictionary based bro

Billy Bantu the alleged 'Egyptian Nubian', LOL talk about delusional.

REAL NUBIANS & KUSHITES

The Aboriginal Egyptians were Cushitic/Eurasian peoples. Eurasians were in Africa 25K yrs before Narmer.

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