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The no go area of popular fictionalized white bwoy history is that "the Aryans built Rome".
How true is this?
No it is a damned lie! The truth was that Rome was a multi-ethnic Empire. Any true scholar with the slightest mastery of classics will attest to this.
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Sometimes authors attribute the origin of Rome to Etruscans, or to Greeks or to Canaanites. It is generally acknowledged that those three powers were themselves basically multi-ethnic, and also that the Canaanites were singularly black and African in origin.
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
And then one must not forget that the cultural founts of Rome was not anywhere on the European mainland but in North Africa, with Egypt and the province of Africa being the most sophisticated, and civilized in arts, science and culture. The cultural capital of the Roman Empire was Alexandria in Egypt.
All the inhabitants of the Roman provinces of Africa could easily attain to Roman citizenship and even aspire to become Emperors of Rome.
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
They eventually did. Bursting the barriers of imperial Rome which had contained them in Central Europe, the barbarians gothic an slavic hordes swamped Rome, southern and central Europe, western Europe as well, bursted into Africa, and then onwards to the Americas and Australia. Like demons released from hell.
Those Barbarians are the direct ancestors of todays so-called Italians, French, Germans, English, Beligia, Holland, Sweden, Russia, and the whole of the so-called white races of todays Europa.
And those gothic descendants have spent a thousand years, re-writing history, destroying monuments, burning books and libraries, in an attempt to hide the truth about themselves, and to usurp the majesty and excellence of the great black civilizations. They would trick the black children (the real owners of this world) into a life of complancency and surbodination, wherein they are unable to assert their legitimacy.
Which is why they have invested so much energy in re-writing and retelling the story of the Roman Empire and its fall, at the hands of the barbarians so-called whites.
See the Roman Dread Locks Legion of Lucius Quietus, the Overall Commander of the Roman Legions
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: what a moron. Anyone who buys this crap needs to chack themselves into a mental institution and and submit to shock treatments.
Come-on hammerhead, I've been preaching this for years, what's the surprise?
It was true then, it's still true now - at least the Etruscan part. I never heard about the NIGRI-LATINIS or the Maurs before.
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Mike, almost nothing you say is true. the world rolls on and you continue to live is a little world of goof ball history that nobody pays any attention to. I wasn't kidding about the mental isnstitution. Those people think they are right as well. There is not any difference between you and the guy in the mental institution who goes around thinking he is Napoleon.
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: what a moron. Anyone who buys this crap needs to chack themselves into a mental institution and and submit to shock treatments.
Hammer
Anyone filled up with the ignorance and vacuity as in your case, would be equally shocked!
But real documentary proof is there for the intelligent ones.
Lion!
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Morlachs (Mauro-Vlachs or Mavrovlachi, also Nigri Latini in Latin sources, meaning "Black Vlachs"; in Greek: Μαυροβλάχοι, in Serbian and Croatian Morlaci [mor-latsi] or Морлаци) were a population of Vlachs. In another version their name comes from the slavic terms of "morski-Vlasi" or Sea Vlachs. The morlachs were shepherds that lived in the Dinaric Alps (western Balkans in modern use), seasonally migrating in search for better pastures for their sheep flocks (between mountains, in the summertime, and the sea shores, in the wintertime). They were a blend of previously Romanized indigenous peoples and new settled Roman army veterans and Roman colonists.
The adjective "black" may be used here with the meaning of "northern", this metaphor probably deriving from the Turkish practice of indicating cardinal directions by colors.
Reports from the mid-11th century tell how the Morlachs lived in the mountainous regions of Montenegro, Bosnia, Stari Vlah, and Herzegovina
These are already mentioned as Nigri Latini by the presbyter of Dioclea (c. 1150) in the old Dalmatian littoral and the mountains of what is now Montenegro, Herzegovina and North Albania. Other colonies extended through a great part of the old Servian interior, where is a region still called Stara VlaIka or “Old Walachia.”
The great commercial staple of the east Adriatic shores, the republic of Ragusa, seems in its origin to have been a Ruman settlement, and many Viach traces survived in its later dialect. Philippus de Diversis, who described the city as it existed in 1440, says that “the various officers of the republic do not make use either of Slav or Italian, with which they converse with strangers, but a certain other dialect only partially intelligible to us Latins,” and cites words with strong Ruman affinities.
In the mountains above Ragusa a number of Viach tribes are mentioned in the archives of that city, and the original relationship of the Ragusans and the nomadic Alpine representatives of the Roman provincials, who preserved a traditional knowledge of the old lines of communication throughout the peninsula, explains the extraordinary development of the Ragusan commerce.
In the 14th century the Mavrovlachi or Morlachs extended themselves towards the Croatian borders, and a large part of maritime Croatia and northern Dalmatia began to be known as Morlacchia. A Major Vlachia was formed about the triple frontier of Bosnia, Croatia and Dalmatia, and a “ Little Walachia” as far north as Po~ega. [font color=red]The Morlachs have now become Slavonized[/font] (see DALMATIA).
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Iron, When you make a goofey, wildeyed statement that is miles outside the bounds of accepted scholarship the burden of proof is on you.
No educated Greek/Roman scholar agrees with your stupid positions.
Then I have no choice but to give you what I normally call:
NIGRI LATINIS 101 or
MOOR-LACHS 101.
When you realize the ethnicity of these people you will know the ethnicity of the true Romans!
Now respond: Who were the Nigri Latinis?
Wh were the Moor-Lachs?
Who were the Iberians?
Lion!
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: somebody start the twilight zone music Lion is a nut.
Lion, don't be upset by this type of retort. I get it all the time, especially from the idiot Lioness. Just notice that they make no attempt to actually REFUTE what you say, because that would require contrary FACTS - of which there are NONE!
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IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Vlach
Vlach (pronounced /ˈvlɑːk/ or /ˈvlćk/) or Wallachian is a blanket term covering several modern Latin peoples descending from the Latinised population in Central, Eastern and Southeastern Europe. English variations on the name include: Walla, Vallachians, Walachians, Wlachs, Wallachs, Vlahs, Olahs or Ulahs; Groups that have historically been called Vlachs include: modern-day Romanians or Daco-Romanians, Aromanians or Macedo-Romanians, Morlachs, Megleno-Romanians and Istro-Romanians. Since the creation of the Romanian state, the term in English has mostly been used for those living outside Romania.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Dacians
In absence of written historical records, the origins of the Dacians (and Thracians) remain obscure. Evidence of proto-Thracians or Proto-Dacians in the prehistoric period depends on remains of material culture. It is generally proposed that a proto-Dacian or proto-Thracian people developed from a mixture of indigenous peoples and Indo-Europeans from the time of Proto-Indo-European expansion in the Early Bronze Age when the latter, around 1500 BC, conquered the indigenous peoples. We speak of proto-Thracians from which during the Iron Age(about 1000 BC) as Dacians & Thracians begin developing as we cannot identify Thracians during the Bronze age.
Hammer and Lioness, you DO understand the "indigenous peoples" refers to Blacks, and "Indo-Europeans" refers to the Albinos coming from Central Asia - right?
Once you get to Dacians & Thracians, then I can relate.
The Thracians in classical times, were broken up into a large number of groups and tribes, though a number of powerful Thracian states were organized, such as the Odrysian kingdom of Thrace, and the Dacian kingdom of Burebista.
Black king and his White woman - nothing new there. I've tried it, what's the big deal?
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IronLion - You broached a subject that I never have, that being the condition of the Latins and Hellenes as they ENTERED Southern Europe.
History clearly suggests that they were a "mixed-race" people as they entered. But I have never tried to make that case because it would require artifacts and genetic studies to prove it - both things that the Albinos would never allow to see the light of day.
Plus, it is possible that they spent little time in Eastern Europe - rapidly passing through; and progressed to Southern Europe, unchanged from their original Albino condition.
But the nature of Greek and Roman societies was UNQUESTIONABLY mixed-race. Hammer only shows his ignorance of facts and history when he denies it.
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^I gave Lioness a tough problem to solve in the Turks thread. She will be back when she finds something - stupid no doubt - to respond with.
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Now let us make a serious consideration on this matter: a few people of unknown origin, allegedly Trojans, founded a village in Aetruscan territory, that they called "Roma", and consequently they were known by their neighbours as "Romans". They spoke Latin.
The country where this village was built was inhabited by different peoples of various origins:
in the south there were Italics (a complex of tribes presumably sharing a common background), Greeks, Sea Peoples (Philistines), Siculs, Phoenicians (Canaanites), etc.;
in the middle region where the village of Rome was located, there were Aetruscans, Umbrians, Italics, Celts, etc.; in the north dwelled Venedi, Ligurs, Celts...
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These are the settlers that came after the fall of the Roman Empire: Goths, Lumbards, Heruls, Saracens, Normans, Turks, etc. They all are now Italians, a "Latin" people...
One Settler one matchete!
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quote: Black king and his White woman - nothing new there. I've tried it, what's the big deal?
KMRT Really now, lol, NO big surprise there....been sighted you're the kind of 'brotha' to bed up Becky.... and DWBCL: that's just it: there is none- it's like comparing glass ('white' woman) to diamonds (Black woman)
but from reading so many of your other posts, didn't you mean "...and his 'Albino' woman"
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Romans were the descendants of disparate ethnic groups--Latins, Sabines, Etruscans, etc.--who came together in the distant past to forge a single, albeit pluralistic community. This is the story of the origins of the Roman people promoted by later Roman authors, such as Florus and Velleius Paterculus, and often repeated in modern classrooms and history texts. Indeed, Rome in the Republican period is often considered noteworthy, if not praiseworthy, for its capacity to absorb diverse cultural, ethnic, and linguistic communities in Italy. Meanwhile, the Roman aristocracy was constantly evolving, as municipal elite were slowly incorporated and recruited into the ranks of the domi nobiles. In this excellent, thought-provoking book, Gary Farney explores how the issue of ethnic identity crosscut Roman political culture.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Mike
I believe the present day Romanians are the the real Latinis. Those ones today are a bunch of Cagotic Slavs, who entered into Europe and swamped the original black Roma citizens of Roman Dacia, Thrace, and Romany. Having no other language except for a fews grunts and groans, they were taught Romani language.
Today they parade themselves like Hammer as the true Romanis.
Lion!
See this citation here:
"the Romanians in Romania are also descendant of the ancient Slavonic tribes, though they do not speak a Slavic language, but a a Romance language, which can be traced back to the Roman colonization of Dacia. The basic vocabulary is in fact of Latin origin.They have dark hair, dark eyes and are quite tall....
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Mike
I believe the present day Romanians are not the real Latinis.
The present day Romanians are immigrant conquerors.
They are a bunch of Cagotic Slavs, who entered into Europe and swamped the original black Roma citizens of Roman Dacia, Thrace, and Romany at the fall of the Roman Empire.
Having no other language except for a fews grunts and groans, they assimilated and were taught Romani language.
Today they parade themselves like Hammer and other identity challenged Pinkies as the true Romanis..."the great whytes"..LOL!
The Romanians in Romania are the descendants of the ancient Slavonic tribes, though they do not speak a Slavic language, but a Romance language, which can be traced back to the Roman colonization of Dacia. The basic vocabulary is in fact of Latin origin.....
Lion!
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IronLion - Yes, I know. I was tracing back from the Vlachs. As to the Latinis, I don't get caught up in that, because there is no way to know who the name originally applied to.
It's like the name Greek, where does it come from, and who were the original Greeks?
The White people that we call Greeks, called themselves Hellenes - see what I mean?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - Yes, I know. I was tracing back from the Vlachs. As to the Latinis, I don't get caught up in that, because there is no way to know who the name originally applied to.
It's like the name Greek, where does it come from, and who were the original Greeks?
The White people that we call Greeks, called themselves Hellenes - see what I mean?
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I have never seen such a bunch of loons in all my life. Had this site on at the office today and had five people rolling in the floor reading these posts.
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Hammer and Lioness - Children and ignorant adults try to shout down, and make fun of, that which they disagree. People of any worth, attack with counter logic and fact.
Sooo, which are ya gonna be?
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You cannot not counter this crap with logic and facts Mike, get serious. You are so far out in lollipop land there is no place to start a conversation.
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: You cannot not counter this crap with logic and facts Mike, get serious. You are so far out in lollipop land there is no place to start a conversation.
Sooo, may I say then, that you haven't got a clue?
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Just curious Lioness, how did you get into the gay thing? The thread is on Romans NOT Greeks.
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Potrait of wooly haired guy called Scipio Africanus who fought Hannibal: He likes to ride Elephants too, just like the other brotha Hannibal!
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Lion, there is no "putting up" with crazy people who sit around and just make up their own goofey history.
Hammerheaded
Talk of goofy? Lets talk about the black Roman Patriacian called Gaius Nigrinus! You hear the name...Nigrinus, black family, pure Romans...
GAIUS AVIDUS NIGRINUS
Gaius Avidius Nigrinus (died 118) was a Roman that lived between the 1st and 2nd centuries.
Nigrinus’ paternal and maternal ancestors were Romans of the highest political rank. He was the son of an elder Gaius Avidius Nigrinus by an unnamed mother, his brother was the consul Titus Avidius Quietus and his paternal uncle was the proconsul Tiberius Avidius Quietus. Nigrinus’ family were wealthy, distinguished and well connected politically from Faventia (modern Faenza, Italy) and he was born and raised in Faventia. Nigrinus and his family may have been related to the consul Gaius Petronius Pontius Nigrinus, who had served his consulship at the time that the Roman Emperor Tiberius had died in 37.
His family had strong links to Greece. The father of Nigrinus, had served at an unknown date during the reign of Roman Emperor Domitian (81-96) as Proconsul of Achaea, as well as his paternal uncle. His family was friends of Greek Historian Plutarch and Roman Senator Pliny the Younger. Plutarch dedicated a writing piece to the elder Nigrinus and Quietus entitled ‘On Brotherly Love’.
Nigrinus was a long outstanding friend of the Roman Emperor Trajan and his family. He served as Tribune in 105. Nigrinus served as Legatus of Achaea and probably participated in Trajan’s attempt to recognize and stabilize the administration of the financially troubled province. Nigrinus later became the Roman Governor of Greece.
In 110, Nigrinus served as suffect consul. During the year of his consulship, Trajan sent Nigrinus as a special official to Delphi, Greece as a member of an advisory council to assist the politician, later Greek historian Arrian in settling boundary disputes. This event is known in Delphi, as there are honorific inscriptions dedicated to Nigrinus in Greek and Latin in Delphi recording his tour of duty in Greece.
Nigrinus was a trusted lieutenant to Trajan. Trajan appointed him as a Roman Governor of the Dacia. Nigrinus commanded considerable political respect, was a leading military general and could have been seen as a probable heir of Trajan.
In 117, Trajan had died and was succeeded by his paternal second cousin Hadrian. In the summer of 118 Nigrinus, was one of four senators to be executed from orders from the Roman Senate because he was involved in a plot to overthrow Hadrian. Nigrinus was dismissed at Faventia. He was probably involved in the plot because of his differing position on Hadrian’s imperial policy and due to his long friendship, high standing with Trajan, Hadrian could have viewed Nigrinus as a potential threat as a heir as ruling emperor.
Nigrinus in his life married an unattested Roman noble woman called Ignota Plautia. He had at least one known child a daughter called Avidia Plautia. Plautia would marry Hadrian’s first adopted heir Lucius Aelius Verus Caesar. Nigrinus would become the maternal grandfather of the Roman Emperor Lucius Verus, prince Gaius Avidius Ceionius Commodus, princesses Ceionia Fabia and Ceionia Plautia
Sources A dictionary of the Roman Empire By Matthew Bunson – 1995 Plutarch's Sertorius: A Historical Commentary. C. Konrad Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1994 The Cambridge ancient history, Volume 11 By Alan K. Bowman, Peter Garnsey, Dominic Rathbone Limited preview - Edition: 2 - Item notes: v. 11 – 2000 Marcus Aurelius, by Anthony Richard Birley, Routledge, 2000 The Roman Government of Britain, Anthony Richard Birley 2005
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Nigrita (-ae, masc.)[1] homo est cuius cutis color aquilus est. Sensu strictissimo, nigrita nigrois est, itaque huius phyles homines originaliter ex Africa sunt sed propter servitudinem et emigrationem per alias continentes, praesertim per Americam, se propagavere.
Correctae igitur definitioni quoque aliae physicae qualitates includendae essent velut capilli genus. Alii cutis aquillimae homines velut Melanesii et Dravĭdae etiam "nigritae" denominarentur.
In Civitatibus Foederatis Nigritae Aframericani nuncupari solent.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Nigrita (-ae, masc.)[1] homo est cuius cutis color aquilus est. Sensu strictissimo, nigrita nigrois est, itaque huius phyles homines originaliter ex Africa sunt sed propter servitudinem et emigrationem per alias continentes, praesertim per Americam, se propagavere.
Correctae igitur definitioni quoque aliae physicae qualitates includendae essent velut capilli genus. Alii cutis aquillimae homines velut Melanesii et Dravĭdae etiam "nigritae" denominarentur.
In Civitatibus Foederatis Nigritae Aframericani nuncupari solent.
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Emperor Macrinus the Black African Roman Emperor from North Africa
Born in Caesarea (modern Cherchell, Algeria) in the Roman province of Mauretania to an equestrian family, Macrinus received an education which allowed him to ascend to the Roman political class. Over the years he earned a reputation as a skilled lawyer. ...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Karakala The Black Emperor of Rome!
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Nigrita (-ae, masc.)[1] homo est cuius cutis color aquilus est. Sensu strictissimo, nigrita nigrois est, itaque huius phyles homines originaliter ex Africa sunt sed propter servitudinem et emigrationem per alias continentes, praesertim per Americam, se propagavere.
Correctae igitur definitioni quoque aliae physicae qualitates includendae essent velut capilli genus. Alii cutis aquillimae homines velut Melanesii et Dravĭdae etiam "nigritae" denominarentur.
In Civitatibus Foederatis Nigritae Aframericani nuncupari solent.