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see AE on deleted threads

thread title:

"can't post New Topic in Egyptology, threads deleted, WTF"

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Nothing unusual there.

Happens every so often.

Yrs ago Ausar warned to
backup any work you don't
want to disappear.

Admin could restore the
axed data but since admin
axed it why would admin
restore it?

ES members bitch about it
but refuse to post to TNV
or ESR so the unpaid piper
plays his own chosen tunes
even though a mass migration
would shut these forums down
overnight.

Ah, the Sleeping Giant knows
not his true influential power.


quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:
^Some threads also seem to have been shortened.
There are a bunch of threads at the top that appear
to have been bumped, but some of the more recent
posts seem to have disappeared.


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quote:
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EGYPTSEARCH FORUMS IS DEAD 8/6/2013


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No
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ES great w/o mods
Need cleaner
to cleanse oversize thread borders
on a cyclic schedule

I c Ausar cleansed 1 thread
A hearty thx 2 Ausar 4 that!!



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quote:
Uh no, actually Kemp clearly warns that said finding is because
samples were drawn from the far north, near Cairo and are
LATE PERIOD samples as shown below.
Samples from the north, Kemp also notes are also
not representative of ancient Egypt.


I have reservations around quoting Kemp as an authority. He's suggested that the paintings of yellow Egyptian women on tomb walls might indicate a preference for light-skinned women.
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quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
quote:
Uh no, actually Kemp clearly warns that said finding is because
samples were drawn from the far north, near Cairo and are
LATE PERIOD samples as shown below.
Samples from the north, Kemp also notes are also
not representative of ancient Egypt.


I have reservations around quoting Kemp as an authority. He's suggested that the paintings of yellow Egyptian women on tomb walls might indicate a preference for light-skinned women.
look at the thread
"Erotic artworks of ancient Rome"
in AE forum
note where these works are coming from in terms of motive.
They are not religious paintings. They're brothel advertisements, pure lust driven
Yet we see the same pattern

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^Are you saying that brown used in the depiction of the men in these Roman images is symbolic?
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quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
^Are you saying that brown used in the depiction of the men in these Roman images is symbolic?

I'm saying symbolism is not being used, these are not religious paintings.

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was somebody lightened or was somebody darkened?
I don't know but these paintings demonstrate preference for light skinned women

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@lioness
quote:
I don't know but these paintings demonstrate preference for light skinned women
Or a preference for dark-skinned men?

Do you think Kemp is incorrect to suggest that depictions of yellow women possibly indicate a preference for light-skinned women?

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quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
@lioness
quote:
I don't know but these paintings demonstrate preference for light skinned women
Or a preference for dark-skinned men?

It's highly unlikely these paintings were produced by women.
And the clients of these brothels were men so the paintings are an applea to their interests

quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
Do you think Kemp is incorrect to suggest that depictions of yellow women possibly indicate a preference for light-skinned women?

No it's not incorrect to suggest that that is a possibility.
Some argue that it's purely symbolic but they can't prove it in the texts. I think the answer is sometimes
Also if you look at real women in Egyptian art, real people with names, they are often beige sometimes watered down yellowish mixed in. It look slike a real skin tone
That's different from the goddesses who are portrayed in a bright pure yellow like a lemon too yellow to be real. That is symbolic of gold because whil they used gold the metal they didn't have gold paint, the goddesses believed to have gold skin

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Amenhotep III is known to have married several foreign women:

Gilukhepa, the daughter of Shuttarna II of Mitanni, in the tenth year of his reign.
Tadukhepa, the daughter of his ally Tushratta of Mitanni, Around Year 36 of his reign.
A daughter of Kurigalzu, king of Babylon.
A daughter of Kadashman-Enlil, king of Babylon.
A daughter of Tarhundaradu, ruler of Arzawa.
A daughter of the ruler of Ammia (in modern Syria)

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^Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Could you also help out with the depiction of Middle Kingdom women as white? And what are we to make of NK depictions of men and women in the same brown colour? The depiction of Kushites and Ptolemaic Pharoahs as reddish-brown is also interesting.

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quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
^Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Could you also help out with the depiction of Middle Kingdom women as white? And what are we to make of NK depictions of men and women in the same brown colour? The depiction of Kushites and Ptolemaic Pharoahs as reddish-brown is also interesting.

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Devoted Couple
fifth dynasty, 2494-2345 B.C.) shows a man and his wife. It was likely placed in their tomb at the cemetery of Tehna as a focal point for the family, friends, and neighbors who visited to perform rituals of devotion.
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Metropolitan museum

I wouldn't use the terms "black" and "white" or apply a general rule to a time period.

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Badmuntish/Carlos Coke sez:
I have reservations around quoting Kemp as an authority. He's suggested that the paintings of yellow Egyptian women on tomb walls might indicate a preference for light-skinned women.

^^Kemp is a solid scholar. He is a mainstream guy,
and to some extent follows a certain "establishment
Egyptology" line, but he is fairly honest - not
afraid to post contrary information to certain
standard Eurocentric narratives. He has pointed out how
sampling is often skewed by European academics and
biased Egyptian types- such as sampling the far north
and using said limited sampling as "representative"
of Egypt as a whole- excluding the historic south.
He has also pointed out limb proportion studies
of NORTHERN Egyptians group them with other Africans
debunking claims of a "whiter" north, or rigid attempts
to fold the north into some sort of "EUrasian" venue.
Kemp's claims have to be cross-checked like everyone
else, but he is a fairly decent guy in this area.
As a recognized Egyptologist, Kemp could have
pulled a Hawass and distorted the info or simply
have kept quiet.


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^Racist types can't stand the above- that a conservative
mainstream Egyptologist is actually agreeing with
the so-called "Afrocentrists" on several points they have made.
Hence you see said racists foaming out their rage on forum
after forum, impotent idiots, and purveyors of fantasy,
who still think that repeating the n-word substitutes
for argument and logic.

Below one pathetic "moderator" bans poster "Will" after Will
debunks the racist dogs of his "amen corner" using the hard data
on ES. With "Will" gone, the "HBD" "amen corner" is given a free
hand to post its nonsense- fools commending fools and patting
themselves on the back as if they have accomplished something.
But "Will" had already exposed them for the pathetic cowards they are.
Which is why they hide behind "mods" when the going gets tough.

http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/what-race-were-the-ancient-egyptians/#comment-150207


Kudos to you "Will"- that's ONE reason the ES database
is in place, to hammer the racist dogs at will..
WHen their only reply to solid logic and argument
is a "ban" then you know how bankrupt they are.
And their "ban" is meaningless. The hard data is
already on the floor- on websites around the world,
with good representation in Google. No "ban" or
Wiki "stealth edits" can hide or bury the facts. Idiots..
Keep on hammering them hard..

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As regards Kemp's suggestion that some paintings may
represent a preference for lighter skin, this is
questionable if any are going to use the claim as
a "racial" angle.
The yellowish skin may be a stylistic
convention- such as men being sometimes portrayed as red
or a reflection of status- higher status females
might be out less in the hot sun of the fields, thus acquiring
a lighter hue from extended indoor dwelling. Aint
saying this is so, but only a possibility that can
give some lighter hues, a not uncommon scenario in
the Mediterranean or "Middle East". See:
http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/color_of_life/

In any event, the NATIVE Africans of the Nile Valley
are so diverse in skin color- whether based on
native genetic diversity of ancient tribes, or
environmental factors such as sub-tropical regions
that any "preference for light skinned women" would
still be "preference" for indigenous, tropical Africans..


PS: here is another conservative Egyptologist who
agrees with some so-called "Afrocentrics" that based on American social
constructs of race, it is reasonable to call the
Ancient Egyptians "black."


“The race and origins of the Ancient Egyptians have been a source of
considerable debate. Scholars in the late and early 20th centuries rejected
any considerations of the Egyptians as black Africans by defining the Egyptians
either as non-African (i.e Near Easterners or Indo-Aryan), or as members of a
separate brown (as opposed to a black) race, or as a mixture of lighter-skinned
peoples with black Africans. In the later half of the 20th century, Afrocentric scholars
have countered this Eurocentric and often racist perspective by characterizing the
Egyptians as black and African…..”

“Physical anthropologists are increasingly concluding that racial definitions are the
culturally defined product of selective perception and should be replaced in biological
terms by the study of populations and clines. Consequently, any characterization of
race of the ancient Egyptians depend on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study.
Thus, by modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as
‘blacks’ [i.e in a social sense] while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical
diversity of Africans.”

--Source: Donald Redford (2001) The Oxford encyclopedia of
ancient Egypt, Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p. 27-28

^Credit to "Will" for pulling this quote..

Course, If a non-social construct is used then the scientific data
at hand shows clustering or similarity with other
indigenous tropically-adapted Africans on several
lines of evidence, with stronger similarities in
some eras.

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"Thus, the colorations used for skin tones in the art
must have been schematic [or symbolic] rather than realistic; the
clear gender distinction encoded in that scheme may have been based
on elite ideals relating to male and female roles,in which women's
responsibilities kept them indoors, so that they spent less time in
the sun than men. Nevertheless, the significance of the two colors may
be even deeper, making some as yet unknown but fundamental difference
between men and women in Egyptian worldview..

--- 'Color Symbolism' by Gay Robins, The Ancient Gods Speak: A Guide to Egyptian Religion. Edited by Donald Redford

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^^^^^ all speculation,no proof, first saying "must have been schematic [or symbolic]"

then going on to say

"may have been based
on elite ideals relating to male and female roles,in which women's
responsibilities kept them indoors, so that they spent less time in
the sun than men."

-therefore speculatng the women in
these artifacts were naturally light skinned
if they stayed indoors but if they caught
some sun and got a little darker
they still made them light in the art as if they
stayed indoors 24-7


Amenhotep III is known to have married several foreign women:

Gilukhepa, the daughter of Shuttarna II of Mitanni, in the tenth year of his reign.
Tadukhepa, the daughter of his ally Tushratta of Mitanni, Around Year 36 of his reign.
A daughter of Kurigalzu, king of Babylon.
A daughter of Kadashman-Enlil, king of Babylon.
A daughter of Tarhundaradu, ruler of Arzawa.
A daughter of the ruler of Ammia (in modern Syria)


^^^ there are other examples,

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
^Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Could you also help out with the depiction of Middle Kingdom women as white? And what are we to make of NK depictions of men and women in the same brown colour? The depiction of Kushites and Ptolemaic Pharoahs as reddish-brown is also interesting.

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Devoted Couple
fifth dynasty, 2494-2345 B.C.) shows a man and his wife. It was likely placed in their tomb at the cemetery of Tehna as a focal point for the family, friends, and neighbors who visited to perform rituals of devotion.
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Metropolitan museum

I wouldn't use the terms "black" and "white" or apply a general rule to a time period.

The portraits show similar physical traits between both sexes, which indicate the same ethnicity.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^^^ all speculation,no proof, first saying "must have been schematic [or symbolic]"

then going on to say

"may have been based
on elite ideals relating to male and female roles,in which women's
responsibilities kept them indoors, so that they spent less time in
the sun than men."

-therefore speculatng the women in
these artifacts were naturally light skinned
if they stayed indoors but if they caught
some sun and got a little darker
they still made them light in the art as if they
stayed indoors 24-7


Amenhotep III is known to have married several foreign women:

Gilukhepa, the daughter of Shuttarna II of Mitanni, in the tenth year of his reign.
Tadukhepa, the daughter of his ally Tushratta of Mitanni, Around Year 36 of his reign.
A daughter of Kurigalzu, king of Babylon.
A daughter of Kadashman-Enlil, king of Babylon.
A daughter of Tarhundaradu, ruler of Arzawa.
A daughter of the ruler of Ammia (in modern Syria)


^^^ there are other examples,

Where are the records for these claims?


quote:
At one time it was suggested that *Akhenaten's famous queen, *Nefertiti, was the re-named Tadukhepa; the famous head of *Nefertiti in Berlin, it was argued, represented a woman of non-Egyptian and possibly Indo-Aryan origin. Evidence that relates to other members of *Nefertiti's family would indicate that she was of Egyptian, although unknown, parentage.

BIBL. Mercer, S.A.B. The Tell el Amarna Tablets, (two vols) Toronto: 1939.
Biographical Dictionary of Ancient Egypt by Rosalie and Antony E. David


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--AmenhotepIII

Father: Thutmose IV
Son: Akhenaten

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quote:
Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
"Thus, the colorations used for skin tones in the art
must have been schematic [or symbolic] rather than realistic; the
clear gender distinction encoded in that scheme may have been based
on elite ideals relating to male and female roles,in which women's
responsibilities kept them indoors, so that they spent less time in
the sun than men. Nevertheless, the significance of the two colors may
be even deeper, making some as yet unknown but fundamental difference
between men and women in Egyptian worldview..

--- 'Color Symbolism' by Gay Robins, The Ancient Gods Speak: A Guide to Egyptian Religion. Edited by Donald Redford

Old thread revival,


How to stop whitewash of Ancient Egypt and other myths?

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quote:
Originally posted by claus3600:
^Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Could you also help out with the depiction of Middle Kingdom women as white? And what are we to make of NK depictions of men and women in the same brown colour? The depiction of Kushites and Ptolemaic Pharoahs as reddish-brown is also interesting.

Carlos, the most interesting thing of all is, that most African ethnic groups have a reddish undertone.
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Indeed, Africans have the highest color diversity.
Others areas may show more volume of a particular
color, but the highest skin color diversity is in Africa.

"Previous studies of genetic and craniometric traits have found higher levels of within-population diversity in sub-Saharan Africa compared to other geographic regions. This study examines regional differences in within-population diversity of human skin color. Published data on skin reflectance were collected for 98 male samples from eight geographic regions: sub-Saharan Africa, North Africa, Europe, West Asia, Southwest Asia, South Asia, Australasia, and the New World. Regional differences in local within-population diversity were examined using two measures of variability: the sample variance and the sample coefficient of variation. For both measures, the average level of within-population diversity is higher in sub-Saharan Africa than in other geographic regions. This difference persists even after adjusting for a correlation between within-population diversity and distance from the equator. Though affected by natural selection, skin color variation shows the same pattern of higher African diversity as found with other traits."
-- Relethford JH.(2000). Human skin color diversity is highest in sub-Saharan African populations. Hum Biol. 2000 Oct;72(5):773-80.)

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Indigenous Africans..

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liarness says:
all speculation,no proof, first saying "must have been schematic [or symbolic]"

So say you but the Egyptologists noted above are
much more credible than you and present plenty of
"proof" in their writeup. Sorry..

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^^^^ makes no sense, I had said that some of this Egyptian art, when not dealing with goddesses, it might be dealing with actual variance in skin tone. Now this idiot shows a variety skins tones which supports my point, yet calling me me a liar and wants to support that it was symbolic at the same time, what a fool.

Thutmose III had three Asiatic wives, all daughters of powerful Palestinian chieftains allied with Egypt, in addition to his Great Wife.

Of course because of this picture in the previous post that must never of happened, that's some sort of proof. Yes I'm a liar now because I had an opinion on a possibility, one bourne out in the historical record, now I must to submit to feelgoodist history

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What makes you think the "Palestinians" are not the R-V88 carriers? The so called indigenous Bedoiuns.

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I read that the Slavs were brought in as slaves during historical times. They never returned to Europe. There is a reason why the present Isreali Govt revere the Bedoiuns.

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
What makes you think the "Palestinians" are not the R-V88 carriers? The so called indigenous Bedoiuns.

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I read that the Slavs were brought in as slaves during historical times. They never returned to Europe. There is a reason why the present Isreali Govt revere the Bedoiuns.

match for lighter skin female

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
What makes you think the "Palestinians" are not the R-V88 carriers? The so called indigenous Bedoiuns.

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I read that the Slavs were brought in as slaves during historical times. They never returned to Europe. There is a reason why the present Isreali Govt revere the Bedoiuns.

That's an interesting theory, and it has been proposed by older genetic studies before. However,...





code:
 


SNP Location Haplogroup Mutations
M5 M C > T
M9 K, KR C > G
M11 L A > G
M45 P, PR G > A
M69 H T > C
M89 F, FR C > T
M96 E G > C
M122 O3 T > C
M168 CR C > T
M170 I A > C
M174 D T > C
M175 O T > A
M20 G G > T
M207 R A > G
M214 NO T > C
M304 J A > C
M343 R1b C > A
P36 Q G > T
SRY10831.1 BR A > G


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quote:
The deepest branching separates A1b from a monophyletic clade whose members (A1a, A2, A3, B, C, and R) all share seven mutually reinforcing derived mutations (five transitions and two transversions, all at non-CpG sites). To retain the information from the reference MSY tree13 as much as possible, we named this clade A1a-T (Figure 1). Within A1a-T, the transversion V221 separates A1a from a monophyletic clade (called A2-T) consisting of three branches: A2, A3, and BT, the latter being supported by ten mutations (Figure 1).
--Fulvio Cruciani et al (2011)
A Revised Root for the Human Y Chromosomal Phylogenetic Tree: The Origin of Patrilineal Diversity in Africa


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929711001649

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^^ makes no sense, I had said that some of this Egyptian art, when not dealing with goddesses, it might be dealing with actual variance in skin tone. Now this idiot shows a variety skins tones which supports my point, yet calling me me a liar and wants to support that it was symbolic at the same time, what a fool.

Thutmose III had three Asiatic wives, all daughters of powerful Palestinian chieftains allied with Egypt, in addition to his Great Wife.

Of course because of this picture in the previous post that must never of happened, that's some sort of proof. Yes I'm a liar now because I had an opinion on a possibility, one bourne out in the historical record, now I must to submit to feelgoodist history

Color symbolism is rooted in people who were actually alive, as they are today.


Females with lighter skin are seen as esthetic beautiful. This is what makes you a liar.


And it's rather funny, for someone like you, to call Zarahan a "fool" [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Females with lighter skin are seen as esthetic beautiful. This is what makes you a liar.



explain how that makes me a liiar

and use specific quotes from me to show exactly where I am lying to back it up otherwise shut up

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:


Females with lighter skin are seen as esthetic beautiful. This is what makes you a liar.



explain how that makes me a liiar

and use specific quotes from me to show exactly where I am lying to back it up otherwise shut up

I will explain it to you once again.


You will iterate on with utterance that Greece and the rest of Europe has more situ diversity in phynotope/ genotype/ hair texture/ color complexion than all of Africa/ Africans


This is delusional nonsense, and that's why you need to shut up, close your account. And leave the forum....and all the forums as a whole.

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quote:
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I will explain it to you once again.


You will iterate on with utterance that Greece and the rest of Europe has more situ diversity in phynotope/ genotype/ hair texture/ color complexion than all of Africa/ Africans



I don't say "more than" or anything like that comparing the amount of diversity between Eurasia and Africa.

And, diversity in genes is different from diversity in phenotype although there is some crossover.
Some pharoahs have some Asiatic wives is documented and before the late period. There is trade and colonization by the Egyptians with Asiatics and other foreigns all throught the dynasties. There is 150-200 years of Hyksos. There is depiction on the tomb walls of various subject etnicities paying tribute. Egypt has the little narrow strip of land connecting continents.
With all this going on it is not unreasonable that some of these portraits with lighter skinned women reprsented not only lighter skinned indigenous Africans but also Asiatics or part Asiatics
Unless you are suggetsing that the Egyptian were against "race mixing"

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Folks must understand that white supremacy will not and can not give up on ancient Egypt. It is the basis of everything they do to cover up and lie about Egypt's past. That is the reason they created the science of anthropology in the first place, so they could make up all sorts of pseudoscience to claim ancient Egyptians as white. You cannot trust people who put that much effort into lying in order to justify rape, slavery, oppression and murder. These institutions were built for one purpose: to lie and cover up the past. This is done all over the world not just Egypt, but Egypt is the most obvious example. But this same thing happens all over Africa from stealing all the artifacts in Benin, then after destroying the town and leaving it a ruin, they have the nerve to sit here and pretend that they didn't know it existed. British archaeologists have artifacts they have looted from all over the planet and in most cases, they are considered as war booty and not used for any real historical research. Their scholars are too busy making up lies trying to pretend that all civilization came from Europe to actually study artifacts from around the world that contradict them.

Therefore, you cannot expect these people to ever tell the truth. Their whole purpose in life is to lie or lie with a purpose in mind.

For example. Note the following RECENT video made about ancient Egypt and the birth of that civilization by the History channel. Note that this video is so full of absurd historical flaws that it can only be understood in the context of lying with a purpose. The agenda is clear and only people with knowledge of history will see it.

As a hint, they got some Charleton Heston look alike as part of the war for unification and you got a bunch of bearded rabbi types supposedly playing priests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAe4GHoX_zo

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quote:
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Folks must understand that white supremacy will not and can not give up on ancient Egypt. It is the basis of everything they do to cover up and lie about Egypt's past. That is the reason they created the science of anthropology in the first place, so they could make up all sorts of pseudoscience to claim ancient Egyptians as white. You cannot trust people who put that much effort into lying in order to justify rape, slavery, oppression and murder. These institutions were built for one purpose: to lie and cover up the past. This is done all over the world not just Egypt, but Egypt is the most obvious example. But this same thing happens all over Africa from stealing all the artifacts in Benin, then after destroying the town and leaving it a ruin, they have the nerve to sit here and pretend that they didn't know it existed. British archaeologists have artifacts they have looted from all over the planet and in most cases, they are considered as war booty and not used for any real historical research. Their scholars are too busy making up lies trying to pretend that all civilization came from Europe to actually study artifacts from around the world that contradict them.

Therefore, you cannot expect these people to ever tell the truth. Their whole purpose in life is to lie or lie with a purpose in mind.

For example. Note the following RECENT video made about ancient Egypt and the birth of that civilization by the History channel. Note that this video is so full of absurd historical flaws that it can only be understood in the context of lying with a purpose. The agenda is clear and only people with knowledge of history will see it.

As a hint, they got some Charleton Heston look alike as part of the war for unification and you got a bunch of bearded rabbi types supposedly playing priests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAe4GHoX_zo

stop whining, you do too much of it
It's up to black people to pressure the black millionaires and African billionaires to produce a movie on Egypt.
It's a failure to organize,

the money is there to produce and make multiple films on ancient Egypt- or Axum, Nubia etc.
Have you written a letter to Spike Lee or Lee Daniels?
It could start from someone on this forum starting an advocacy project or kick start

Guess what, Africa has 55 billionaires, no excuses

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^What 55 billionaires does Africa have? Excluding
leaders of countries what are some names? And are they
billionaires in local currency or US/EUro/Engleesh money?


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^^^ this is what white people looked like 35,000 years ago
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quote:
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^^^ this is what white people looked like 35,000 years ago

Really..? [Big Grin]

Muurish Latins:

quote:
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Lyonese my skunt, you have no shame... [Big Grin]

Muur ancient Latins [Razz] :

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The Senator...

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The Lion!

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Could powerful blacks similar to above have been responsible
for producing hybrids of Caucasians, via relations
with Asian/Eurasian women?

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E------- longated African at work...

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Gotta love clowns and their attempts to divert from the facts. Talk about white supremacy and you are whining. Yet how is it that for a people who have gone all over the world raping, murdering and stealing without ONCE paying a dime of reparations or giving AN INCH of land back they want to sit here and whine about people trying to kill them off. They lie, cheat and steal on a daily basis and then want to sit up and pretend to be the basis of all that is good and right on earth.

Please.

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quote:
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[QB] Gotta love clowns and their attempts to divert from the facts. Talk about white supremacy and you are whining.

I talk about white supremacy sometimes. There are posts I have made that can be quoted.
But you're obssessed with it. It's the only thing you talk about.
Don't you have any hobbies?

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quote:
Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
Could powerful blacks similar to above have been responsible
for producing hybrids of Caucasians, via relations
with Asian/Eurasian women?

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E------- longated African at work...

^^^^ another brother obsessed with the snow bunny. That's why our race dont get anywhere, sinful lusts for vanilla.
Also some small dick bros ride on black reputation, you can't assume

You've got the wrong picture up anyway. It's should be your Black and Asian piece

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here it is fam, the white baby, hybrid of primary races.
And look at the Asian guy's crotch, he appears to be gifted

lioness productions


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quote:
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But you're obssessed with it. It's the only thing you talk about.
Don't you have any hobbies? [/QB]

You have some fugging nerve to talk about obsession and hobbies when your only hobby is to obsess propagated lies and disinformation 24/7. Dusk to dawn. Who does this other than a degenerate loser who gets paid to work from home from some obscure corporation. The only time you're away from this raggedy site is to take a shiit. Then you return to ES to take another shiit on the entire goddamn forum. Typical cyber pussies.
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^^^^ ok, fine, we'll see you in 6 months for another comment
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:

But you're obssessed with it. It's the only thing you talk about.
Don't you have any hobbies?

You have some fugging nerve to talk about obsession and hobbies when your only hobby is to obsess propagated lies and disinformation 24/7. Dusk to dawn. Who does this other than a degenerate loser who gets paid to work from home from some obscure corporation. The only time you're away from this raggedy site is to take a shiit. Then you return to ES to take another shiit on the entire goddamn forum. Typical cyber pussies. [/QB]


Great points. And deep psychoanalysis.
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
Gotta love clowns and their attempts to divert from the facts. Talk about white supremacy and you are whining. Yet how is it that for a people who have gone all over the world raping, murdering and stealing without ONCE paying a dime of reparations or giving AN INCH of land back they want to sit here and whine about people trying to kill them off. They lie, cheat and steal on a daily basis and then want to sit up and pretend to be the basis of all that is good and right on earth.

Please.

These facts are very real, and as a matter of fact you've hit the nail on the right marker, you've exposed white supremacy.
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quote:
Originally posted by JMT2:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:

But you're obssessed with it. It's the only thing you talk about.
Don't you have any hobbies?

You have some fugging nerve to talk about obsession and hobbies when your only hobby is to obsess propagated lies and disinformation 24/7. Dusk to dawn. Who does this other than a degenerate loser who gets paid to work from home from some obscure corporation. The only time you're away from this raggedy site is to take a shiit. Then you return to ES to take another shiit on the entire goddamn forum. Typical cyber pussies. [/QB]
another whiner
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by JMT2:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:

But you're obssessed with it. It's the only thing you talk about.
Don't you have any hobbies?

You have some fugging nerve to talk about obsession and hobbies when your only hobby is to obsess propagated lies and disinformation 24/7. Dusk to dawn. Who does this other than a degenerate loser who gets paid to work from home from some obscure corporation. The only time you're away from this raggedy site is to take a shiit. Then you return to ES to take another shiit on the entire goddamn forum. Typical cyber pussies.

another whiner [/QB]
You've proven Doug M to be on point. You are here on EgyptSearch basically the embodiment of what he described. A prime example! [Embarrassed] [Big Grin]


Keep posting, keep exposing yourself.

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stop cheerleading and seeking my attention, this is between Doug and me
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You think someone as intelligent as Doug would waste his time arguing with your idiocy?? LOL [Big Grin]
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quote:
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You think someone as intelligent as Doug would waste his time arguing with your idiocy?? LOL [Big Grin]

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quote:
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stop cheerleading and seeking my attention, this is between Doug and me

You are not in the position to call out anyone.


You are the embodiment of cheerleading.

Keep posting, keep exposing yourself.

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Getting back more to the topic. I should add Zarahan that the danger comes not only from the Euronuts who edit wikipedia but also those Euronuts who create their own websites which appear informative on Egypt until it gets into their ethnic origins.

An example would be this website:

http://www.nemo.nu/ibisportal/0egyptintro/2aegypt/

^ Scroll down to the section ' Where did the Egyptians come from?'. I have seen one too many Euronuts cite the above website as a substantial or academic source. LOL [Big Grin]

Unfortunately there are various others of its similtude.

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YEs, which is why "the base" on ES and Reloaded is
so important, and why I am glad there are cats out
there using it across a wide variety of web forums,
debunking the bogus Euro-distorters. As in the poster
"Asante" below, putting "the hammer" down.


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http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/157210-black-african-origins-ancient-egyptians-10.html


THE BASE

http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/15/basic-database-nile-valley-studies
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The following data on Egyptian Religion was removed
by Wiki moles some time back, but do they seriously
believe such lame tactics can suppress the facts?
If they had left it alone it would have been buried
in obscurity on obscure pages, but now people have
developed alternative outlets for the hard data.
It is now all over the web with good representation
in Google, on multiple sites. They fail again.

"A large number of gods go back to prehistoric times. The images of a cow and star goddess (Hathor), the falcon (Horus), and the human-shaped figures of the fertility god (Min) can be traced back to that period. Some rites, such as the "running of the Apil-bull," the "hoeing of the ground," and other fertility and hunting rites (e.g., the hippopotamus hunt) presumably date from early times.. Connections with the religions in southwest Asia cannot be traced with certainty."

"It is doubtful whether Osiris can be regarded as equal to Tammuz or Adonis, or whether Hathor is related to the "Great Mother." There are closer relations with northeast African religions. The numerous animal cults (especially bovine cults and panther gods) and details of ritual dresses (animal tails, masks, grass aprons, etc) probably are of African origin. The kinship in particular shows some African elements, such as the king as the head ritualist (i.e., medicine man), the limitations and renewal of the reign (jubilees, regicide), and the position of the king's mother (a matriarchal element). Some of them can be found among the Ethiopians in Napata and Meroe, others among the Prenilotic tribes (Shilluk)."

(Encyclopedia Britannica 1984 ed. Macropedia Article, Vol 6: "Egyptian Religion" , pg 506-508)

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