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Ledama Kenya
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1)GARAMANTES=Ankole,Tutsi and Hima of Uganda and Rwanda.
THE ANKOLE-WATUSI CATTLE
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2)ADYRMACHIDAE=Zulu,Swazi and Ndembele
THE UMHLANGA CEREMONY aka THE REED DANCE
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Every year the King would all the virgins in the land to stand infront of him and he would pick the most beautiful to become his wife.

3)TROGLODYTES=The Nuba of Sudan
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The Troglodytes hide in holes,caves which they have dugged for themselves from approaching enemy and attack from behind.In the book and documentary 'The last of the Nuba'.The nuba are shown entering and coming out of holes in the ground,where they hide their grain.

4)MACROCEPHALI=Mangbetu tribe of Congo.
THE ELONGATED HEADS OF MANGBETU
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Many african tribes have elongated heads like kalenjin egyptians,but the mangbetu practice skull elongation.
5)GORGADES=Mbalantu tribe
THE MBALANTU WOMEN LONG HAIR
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The Mbalantu tribe of Namibia wear their hair long in Eembuvi plaits.

6)AEGIPANES=Vadoma tribe of Zimbabwe.
THE VADOMA TWO-TOED TRIBE
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The Aegipanes were described by greeks as GOAT-LEGGED Tribe,goat legged as in hoofed,two toes tribe

7)THE MAXYANS AND AUSEANS=The Himba and Herero tribes
THE HIMBA SIDE LOCK
The maxyans cover themselves in red paint,they have side locks.

8)NULI(NULOI)=Most bantus
There certain bantu tribes whose members suffer from high POLYDACTYLY.

9)MACAE=Igbo Tribe of Nigeria
IGBO WOMEN MOHAWK HAIRSTYLE
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The greeks explained that the Macae lived near the CARTHEGIANS(Mande/Mandinka people)therefore i ruled out the turkana of kenya who also put mohawk hairstyles.

10)MACHLEYS=The Fulani,Fulbe and Woodabe tribes
THE FULANI ASSYMETRICAL FACIAL ARTS
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The Machleys decorated their faces to look two faced,one side male one side female,This tribal art is done by the fulani-woodabe people especially males,no wonder the greeks saw how they looked like women and thought they were a tribe of aphrodites.

11)SYRBOTAE=Dinka tribe of sudan.
THE DINKA aka SABTAH ARE THE TALLEST MEN IN AFRICA
The Hebrews,Kalenjin egyptians and proto-bantus called the Dinka/Nuer nation SABTAH,the maasai/samburu nation SEBA,the Luo/anuak nation SABTECHA,the kalenjin egyptian nation RAAMAH,but the kalenjin egyptians called themselves RAAMETCH/RAAMET/RAAMEKH written in heiroglyphs as 'rmT'.

12)OTHERS(because i feel tired).
THE HYPERBOREANS(HYPERBOREOI)=The BORANA and BARENTU aka THE ORMA/OROMO.
The jews called them SHEBA,they and somalis are descendants of kalenjin soldiers who mated with women of Sumeria,when egypt colonised sumeria.

MACROBIANS=Sabaean Maasai/ samburu.
The eastern nilotic maasai,samburu,lotuka and mahra(remnants of maasai sabaeans in yemen)are the only people whose chief diet is milk(usually mixed with cow blood)and meat.the maasai and kalenjin also practise longevity,over 120 years.

SEBENITUS=SEBEI and SABAOT of kenya and uganda
The sabaot aka elgon maasai are descendants of maasai mercineries hired to defend egypt against persian invasion,but today they speak kalenjin,due to intermarriages with kalenjin egyptians.
THE NASAMONES=TUAREG BERBERS..
This is due to their love for dates.The word BERBER is kalenjin meaning uncivilised/uncultured.
CONCLUSION
If the people called today southern bantus(niger-congo B)are what greeks called LIBYANS,the people called WESTERN NILOTES are what greeks called AETHIOPIANS,the people called SOUTHERN NILOTES are EGYPTIANS.

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What are your sources for this history? How did you make these identifications of people?

You should explain your method in reaching these conclusion. If people cite this site for future research, they will make a fool of themselves because the statements above lack any foundation.

What you have written does not agree with Classical sources relating to African populations. Below is my discussion of the Garamantes and Pelasgians Black Greeks

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GARAMANTES

Some of the first African colonists to arrive in Greece came from Crete. These Cretans were called Garamantes. After the goddess Ker or Car, these people also came to be also known as the Carians. The Carians spoke a Mande languages.

These people usually sailed to the Islands in Aegean and the surrounding coast were they established prosperous trading communities.

There is frequent mention of the Garamantes of the Fezzan, in Classical literature of Greece and Rome. The Garamantes were recognized as a Black tribe. They were known to the Greeks and Romans as dark skinned. In Ptolemy (I.8.5.,p.31) a Garamante slave was described as having a body the color of pitch or wholly black.

Graves (1980) and Leo Frobenius linked the Garamante to the ancient empire of Ghana (c.300 BC to A.D. 1100). Graves (1980) claims that the term Garamante is the Greek plural for Garama or Garamas. He said that the present Jarama or Jarma are the descendants of the Garamante; and that the Jarama live near the Niger river.

The Olympian creation myth, as recorded by Pindar in Fragment , and Apollonius Rhodius, makes it clear that the Garamantes early colonized Greece. Their descendants were called Carians. The Carians practiced apiculture. As in Africa the Carians practiced matrilineal descent. According to Herodotus , even up until his time the Carians took the name of their mother.

Many of the Greek myths are historical text which discuss the transition of Greece from an matriarchal society to a patriarchal Aryan society. The term Amazon was often used by the Aryans to denote matriarchal societies living on the Black Sea. The battle between Thesus and the Amazons, led by Queen Melanippe, records the conflicts between the ancient Aryan-Greeks and the Libyco-Nubians settled around the Black Sea.

The classical Carians and Egyptians were very close. Having originated in the Fertile African Crescent they had similar gods and cultural traditions dating back to the Proto-Saharan period.

The Garamantes founded Attica, where they worked the mines at Laureium. Demeter, the goddess of agriculture and fruitfulness, came from the Fezzan (Libya) by way of Crete. It was Demeter who took poppy seeds and figs to Europe.

Apollonius Rhodius (.iv.1310) tells us that the goddess Athene was born beside Lake Triton in Libya. The goddess Athene, was called Neith by the Egyptians and Nia by the Cretans in Linear A writing. This shows that the Garamantes took this god to Europe in addition to Demeter and Amon (=Ammon ,Amma).

By 3000 BC, the Garamantes has spread their influence to Thrace and early Hellenic Greece. Hesiod, who was a Kadmean (i.e., of Egyptian descent), in Works and Days , said that before the Hellenic invasion the Grecian people lived in peace and tranquility and had matriarchal societies. The name Europe comes from Aerope, the daughter of King Catreus, a Cretan. Thucydides observed that:

"The first person known to us by tradition as having established a navy is Minos. He made himself master of what is now called the Hellenic sea, and ruled over the Cyclades into most of which he sent the first colonies, expelling the Carians and appointing his own sons as governors; and thus did his best to put down piracy in these waters, a necessary step to secure the revenues
for his own use".

Thus we find that many Cretans also settled much of mainland southern Europe.

THE PELASGIANS

The Greeks often called the first inhabitants of Greece Pelasgians. The Greek writers claimed that Pelasgus, the great ancestor of the Pelasgians was the first man. The Pelasgians were a combination of diverse Black tribes which included the Achaeans , Kadmeans, and Leleges. The Garamantes were also often called Pelasgians by some classical writers. Strabo said "that the Pelasgi, as indeed the most ancient nation, were diffused through all Greece, and especially among the Aeolians".

The city of Argo was founded by Phoroneus, the father of Pelasgus, Iasus and Agenor. It was these folks who divided the Peloponnese between them.

Herodotus referred to the Pelasgians as "venerable ancestors". He said that the first Athenians "they were Pelasgi, the later possessing the country now designed Hellas". The Pelasgian founding of Athens is also noted by Plutarch in Theseus 12, and Ovid in Metamorphosis vii.402ff. According to Herodotus vii.91, the Pelasgians also founded Thebes in Europe. Pausanias, noted that "The Arcadians make mention of Pelasgus as the first person who existed in their country. From this king the whole region took the name Pilasgia". Hopper noted that the Pelasgians founded Attica.

The Black immigrants from Canaan were also settled in the Aegean at Argolis. They called themselves the "Sons of Abas". Many of the Melampodes later took part of Argolis away from the Canaanites.

The earliest Greek alphabet was made by the Pelasgians, it was lost and later reintroduced by Kadmus to Boeotia. Another Pelasgian, Evander of Arcadia introduced writing to the Italians. This script was used to make the first fifteen characters of the Latin script according to Pliny and Plutarch.


Pliny says that one of the Aegean scripts was created by an Egyptian named Menos. An Egyptian creation of one of the early Greek alphabets is not out of the question because the early Predynastic Egyptians used the Proto-Saharan script as did the founders of the 12th Dynasty. Moreover, the Tiles of Rameses II, published by F. Hitching, in The Mysterious World, are analogous to the early Greek characters.



If you look at what I did I compared the Greek knowledge to modern African groups supporting my interpretation on reliable sources. All you did is just post some pictures which don't even relate to the information provided by the Classical writers.
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