Tukuler
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I invited you, never deleted you like the others, despite the fact that you was a no-show. Let you walk in and out whenever you wanted to, without asking you to lift a finger. Yet you spit in my face and apparently don't even have the decency to at least speak the truth. Have it your way, then. You're no longer welcome on the FB group as far as I'm concerned. I'm doing you a favour by not confronting you in the open or slandering your name by banning you and announcing why openly. I'll leave that to you and the rest of you ladies at the gossip table during your next get together. The moment I see you rear your head in the FB group, you're banned.
I was raised to not go where not wanted.
I hope you get a wife, some children, and standing in a real life community. That's where it's really at. Face to face with real people who can reach out and touch you when needed.
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...so you decided to post an excerpt from a private conversation just because he kicked you out of the FB group? Someone is a vindictive prick here (and it's not whom you're bitching about).
As to whether ancient Egyptians or Nubians would have identified as Black people had their culture and phenotype persisted to the modern post-colonial era, that we can only speculate.
. Book of Gates Gate of Teka Hra vignette(scene) 30 says you lie.
This translation supercedes my previous postings, is tentative, not literal, rather designed for 21st century understandings.
Col1: ĺ-n HRW n nn.[n-n] Says(interogative) Heru to these: - Col2: [HHQ3].`a-w-t.plural RA "Herds (of) Ra - Col3: ĺ-m.w:plural DWA.t:pr Dwellers (in) netherworld. - Col4: KM[m].t:nwt d-sh-r.t:nwt AKH Black community. Red community. - Col5: [kh]:scroll n th-n:plural HQA.w:plural RA Beatification to ye subjects (of) Ra!
The "four types" -- or better, the "subjects of Ra" -- scene depicts the sun in the 5th night hour with Heru addressing the dead. He verbally divides them into the blacks (Nile Valley folk, i.e., Egyptians and Nehesis) under his protection, and the reds (folk dwelling east or west of the Nile) under Sekhet's protection.
Heru is addressing all four types, first with a general intro to the entire party of the afterlife dead (who died that day) still in their shrouds. He "beatifies" them, reanimates them with "spirit" (breath/wind), and releases them from their shrouds. Then after all that he addresses each group in turn speaking of the origins of their creation and assigning their "patron" deity. First the RT RMTW and then in from sunrise to sunset order the AAMW, NHHSW, and TMHHW .
The NWT ideogram means neither people nor land.
The glyph depicts a crossroads indicating a village or city, i.e. a settlement or habitation. thus the use of it to mean community in its broad application for the corpus of the dead. It [mostly] appears as the determinative following the name of a city.
Now if one wants to take black as meaning literal black skin, then go ahead. I recognize a range of skin tones among blacks and also recognize the difference as used in Africa between blacks and reds, both of whom may be African, and blacks and reds where reds means coloureds and whites. As an example, in medieval Arab writings they class themselves as reds in distinction to black Africans of Biled es Sudan but as blacks in distinction to red/white Eurasians like Persians, Slavs, etc.
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In scene 30 Horus establishes the blacks and the reds as two communities not races, a concept not introduced until the birth of anthropology in the 18th century in expansionist Europe.
In scene 30 Heru states that the blacks are the creations of his or Re's tears/semen and under his patronage whereas the reds have Sekhmet as their patron.
The blacks are the RT RMT yw and the NHHSW Nile dwellers. The reds are the A3MW and TMHHW of the adjoining deserts.
However Truth C. is right, it's inappropriate to post private messages
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What is going with the FB group. Are they stroking each others dick? Really Swenet? Always figured you were gay tyrant. You need to grow up....brotha and understand life.
@ Lioness, private? No one knows who is at the keyboard. You are a black woman! Wink! Wink!
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Maybe you need an impartial admin like Anansi at the helm of the FB group
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Gay Tyrant? What are you talking about? There are no acting admins. No one is actively moderating the place because we don't need to. The reference to deleted individuals refers to people who refused to comply with the conditions under which they were let in, i.e. contributing every once in a while. This basic demand was clarified in the thread where the FB group was announced, so no one has an excuse. No one was ever deleted for any other reason than what I just mentioned or trolling. And the others had nothing to do with it; I acted on my own. If you don't know what's going on, please just stay out of it.
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Tukuler
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Anybody proclaiming themselves as truth bearers are in fact the epitome of ego centricism. There are facts but truth varies from person to person.
I find this guy whom I have defended in the past can't get off his knees and off of his friends nutsack. I guess it tastes as good as a nigra gals kitty to him.
Guy says AEs and ASs are dubiously black but proposed this image as the average / predominant phenotype for AE as the FB logo
which they (so awed to have a white boy in their midst) chastised me for challenging it.
Some negroes just love a one way whiteman on blackwoman (even portraying royalty as beckoningly adulterous to palace slaves) who never once presents a blackman on whitewoman casual sex "relationship" as just what they need to sell him their daughter wife sister mother.
This ain't life. This is an ailing chat board. And unlike the FB circle jerk it's all the way beyond censorship by its anal retentive cabal leader.
Moral of the story: I'll post what I damn well please. I struck first. If one comes to kill you QUICK SLAY HIM FIRST! Especially when he's so ball less as to make up some 'oh how you have wronged me' hand wringing bullshit to justify what he feels quilty about doing (no rules broken on my part). My advice to him is join the military and learn to kill without remorse or even a second thought.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: ^^^ Truthcentric also as known as Swenet's lap dog.
theres a back story he's mad because in the horner thread, p 6, Tukular changed his name from truthcentric to centric and said he lied
As to whether ancient Egyptians or Nubians would have identified as Black people had their culture and phenotype persisted to the modern post-colonial era, that we can only speculate.
. Book of Gates Gate of Teka Hra vignette(scene) 30 says you lie.
This translation supercedes my previous postings, is tentative, not literal, rather designed for 21st century understandings.
Col1: ĺ-n HRW n nn.[n-n] Says(interogative) Heru to these: - Col2: [HHQ3].`a-w-t.plural RA "Herds (of) Ra - Col3: ĺ-m.w:plural DWA.t:pr Dwellers (in) netherworld. - Col4: KM[m].t:nwt d-sh-r.t:nwt AKH Black community. Red community. - Col5: [kh]:scroll n th-n:plural HQA.w:plural RA Beatification to ye subjects (of) Ra!
The "four types" -- or better, the "subjects of Ra" -- scene depicts the sun in the 5th night hour with Heru addressing the dead. He verbally divides them into the blacks (Nile Valley folk, i.e., Egyptians and Nehesis) under his protection, and the reds (folk dwelling east or west of the Nile) under Sekhet's protection.
Heru is addressing all four types, first with a general intro to the entire party of the afterlife dead (who died that day) still in their shrouds. He "beatifies" them, reanimates them with "spirit" (breath/wind), and releases them from their shrouds. Then after all that he addresses each group in turn speaking of the origins of their creation and assigning their "patron" deity. First the RT RMTW and then in from sunrise to sunset order the AAMW, NHHSW, and TMHHW .
The NWT ideogram means neither people nor land.
The glyph depicts a crossroads indicating a village or city, i.e. a settlement or habitation. thus the use of it to mean community in its broad application for the corpus of the dead. It [mostly] appears as the determinative following the name of a city.
Now if one wants to take black as meaning literal black skin, then go ahead. I recognize a range of skin tones among blacks and also recognize the difference as used in Africa between blacks and reds, both of whom may be African, and blacks and reds where reds means coloureds and whites. As an example, in medieval Arab writings they class themselves as reds in distinction to black Africans of Biled es Sudan but as blacks in distinction to red/white Eurasians like Persians, Slavs, etc.
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In scene 30 Horus establishes the blacks and the reds as two communities not races, a concept not introduced until the birth of anthropology in the 18th century in expansionist Europe.
In scene 30 Heru states that the blacks are the creations of his or Re's tears/semen and under his patronage whereas the reds have Sekhmet as their patron.
The blacks are the RT RMT yw and the NHHSW Nile dwellers. The reds are the A3MW and TMHHW of the adjoining deserts.
However Truth C. is right, it's inappropriate to post private messages
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Tukuler
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The gossip table is where he and his lackeys sit and stew over ES the place they cannabalized though calling it good for nothing yet continuously posting to it.
Curious as to their FB page? I suggest you join it and see firsthand without relying on rumor. You just might find you like it.
And no one is impartial. All mods are biased to a certain degree and will allow some to get away with what they won't let others do.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Btw. What is the "gossip table ". ?
Maybe you need an impartial admin like Anansi at the helm of the FB group
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: The gossip table is where he and his lackeys sit and stew over ES the place they cannabalized though calling it good for nothing yet continuously posting to it.
Curious as to their FB page? I suggest you join it and see firsthand without relying on rumor. You just might find you like it.
And no one is impartial. All mods are biased to a certain degree and will allow some to get away with what they won't let others do.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Btw. What is the "gossip table ". ?
Maybe you need an impartial admin like Anansi at the helm of the FB group
Interesting.....
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Tukuler
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Swenet just referenced this thread angered over its exposure of his hypocrisy.
Bring it here coward.
His current game plan is to goad me into full throttle attack now that I am moderator and cannot address him as if a non-moderator who doesn't have to set an example of the decorum the forum requires.
What he does here at ES and the way he writes here he would never allow on his private FB forum. He comes here to publicly show his nether regions then hides in his tower where no one can give it back to him the way he dishes it.
That is cowardly imo.
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I have no intention to post anything here. I intent to leave this thread exactly as-is, so others can see what an emotionally unstable mess you are. That you'll stop at nothing to lash back at trivial stuff, even publicising private PMs (which don't even have anything incriminating in them). Why, because you were banned? LMAO. This thread is a gift, more than anything. You exposed yourself and you keep on exposing yourself every time you equate legitimate criticisms regarding your posts and dirty tactics with personal attacks. After all, this thread proves that you're all about personal attacks and emotional tantrums. It proves that you're full of sh!t whenever you paint others as attacking you on a personal level whenever they criticise your manipulations and tricks.
And you have it all backwards. There is no such thing as my FB forum. I'm no active mod there. Why do you keep on lying? You've deleted more there than I have, self-righteous douchebag. Yeah, weren't you the one who started deleting pictures on your own account without consulting anyone, because you didn't like said pictures? LOL. You god complex having self-righteous prick. You show up once in a blue moon at the FB group and you think you can start redecorating the place, but have the nerve to make it out to look like I'm bossing people around and dictating how things are over there? Sicko. Go take your meds.
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In his best kitchen gossip hag drag: "Oh boo hoo hoo bad al~takruri bad"
Fuhhhhhhhhhhhhhnny
quote:Originally posted by Swenet:
I have no intention to post anything here.
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But you just did! gotcha
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Bring it here coward.
I have no intention to post anything here.
But you just did!
Where do you see a reply to the reason you bumped this thread? All I did was point out the elephant in the room. Let's keep it real here, Mr. Emo slash megalomania, if my emotions were as female natured as yours and I had no integrity (like you) I would be posting private materials that'd have you ashamed to show your face here. You're a lying fraud. Like I said, do yourself a favour and go take your meds before you embarrass yourself further than you already have.
This thread is not going anywhere. I'm going to savour it for whenever Mr Emo slash megalomania's 2nd personality comes out, you know, the one where he starts crying that everyone is out to get him and that they're committing personal attacks agains him, when all he ever tries to do is have on-topic debates. LMAO. How mentally deranged can you possibly be to literally take personal attacks to a whole nother, previously unheard of level, by creating threads like this, and to then masquerade elsewhere as some walking paragon of forum etiquette. Not only that, but to then voluntarily BUMP this thread and not feel conflicted in any way, shape or form about the discrepancy between said front and his manipulative victim role.
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Xyyman calling me a tyrant because you manipulated him into thinking that I'm moderating the FB group like a tyrant (when no moderating takes place there) does little to help your case. In fact, it further exposes you as the manipulative liar that you are. You know no moderating takes place there, let alone unfair moderation, so even you using his citation to make some perverted point, is a manipulation.
Keep bumping this thread "Modman Ardo". Show the world how ES' new moderator is the Dalai Lama of refraining from personal attacks and lies. Not to mention, spastic emotional outburst that put everyone at risk of having their PMs publicised when they rub you the wrong way. And what about ES' posts "Modman", are your revengeful split personalities also going to delete ES' posts when they rub your split personalities the wrong way, like how you had the audacity to delete things at the FB group without consulting the other members?
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Tukuler
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Is it anal-retentive to speak for others? It certainly is a mark of tyranny. Xyyman can speak for himself. He already told us why he calls you the Gay Tyrant.
But You? You sound like the guy kept saying Carthage must fall!
I deleted nothing from the FB group. Hell I didn't even know enough about FB to format a paragraph until Brandon showed me. I can do whatever I want to my own FB account. What images I choose to use for myself is beyond any control freak. The very gall that you or some group dictate what avatar I choose for my personal FB acct.
With each succeeding post more and more you reveal the mental workings of the chieftess of a high school girls clique.
Seriously, you're a big joke, lies et al.
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And the lies and manipulations continue. The sheer entertainment of seeing a known liar and manipulator getting caught up in his own web of lies. Now he's dangling from Xyyman's jock, presumably some underhanded ploy to get him to come in and take the spotlight away from his self-destructive behaviour, which he's put up for everyone to see in the first place by creating and repeatedly bumping this thread. What a compromising position to be in for a "mod" who likes to style himself as a paragon of decorum and forum etiquette.
This lying personality above me remembers that Brandon uploaded the image he posted above to the FB group, but he doesn't remember that he barged in from nowhere and took it upon himself to take it down in one of his sick moments of epic pretentiousness. Must have been more or less his third contribution around the time he did that, but he was apparently already feeling himself because not even the founding members with numerous contributions throw around their weight like that. But then again, none of those other members have a god complex.
Says he doesn't remember any of this. Must have been one of his other split personalities then, that barged in from out of nowhere, took the image down without prior discussion, and tried to defend said presumptuous act afterwards.
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Yeah if you call msging the group of my opinion the img was not correct for the avg or predominant type in AE.
After voicing my surprise at subbing a non-AE as the AE logo of the group, Brandon himself took it down.
Get a life Jr.
Swenet doesn't know Seagate portable drives come with a function that will save FB pages. I don't even need to call on a perjuring Swenet lackey. I got the firsthand docs.
Under INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY law I own the rights to anything I put on the 'net and can darn well do what I please with them.
After Brandon notified me he pulled the img I replied.
Yyt Al-Takruri 7:28pm Apr 18
True, but some is not the average. Nor are Massai Luo. We do not all look alike. AEs left us enough art to see what in general and particular they looked like. Why choose a minority type as representative? But you know what? Put it back up. Nobody else seemed to mind. Maybe I'm too critical.
Yyt Al-Takruri 9:03pm Apr 19
I've studied AE since elementary school when I was chastised for going to the front of the classroom pulling down the maps and demonstrating Egypt is located in Africa and demonstrating Egypt is not located in Asia nor Europe contrary to what teacher was teaching. When I first learned hieroglyphics not long ago I used a passage from the Book of Gates to show Egypts ranked themselves and Nehesu as blacks in distinction to Aamu and Tjemehu as reds. I do not cotton to the word negro or its derivatives. Many facial features were present in Egypt. The one Brandon chose was not representative of the average Egyptian female. Brandon's choice was a minority in Egypt but does have the general looks of Luo women of my acquaintance. Face front cartonages of dark skinned AE women do exist. Perhaps using one of them would be more accurate than even a Saidi or other modern day Upper Egyptian.
After that Brandon himself redid the banner following my suggestion of a cartonnage lady.
I hope you Swenet psychophants are following this and see just what kind of personality your group founder is. He lies about me, you think he won't do the same to you the moment you stand your ground in opposition to one of his stances?
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Are you really going to keep up this lie with this ardency and with more than three ES people as witnesses to the exchange? That you admit to having a saved history of the exchange undermines any hopes on your part of being able to chalk your earlier denial up to memory loss. There is no way back now: you had access to a saved report of the incident and still chose to report a fabricated account of what happened. What's interesting to that end, is that you cited a couple of red herring excerpts that are irrelevant to the matter at hand (re: your self-serving boastful mumbo jumbo about the book of gates and elementary school), but you made sure to omit any excerpts relevant to the matter at hand, that expose you for the lying manipulator that you are.
You do know a first-hand witness is going to jump in sooner or later and you won't be able to hide any more behind that it's currently your word against mine in the eye of the public, right?
Wow. You really are a sick pathological liar in real life, aren't you? You've lost all credibility at this point. And the good part is.. you did it all to yourself. You dug a hole for someone else to fall in and you "Bob Doled" in it yourself. You can't blame anyone. Your desperation is showing by your desperate emotional pleas, first to Xyyman and now to the very witnesses of the exchange, who, in fact, can vouch for the fact that you're going on record lying again and again, further encapsulating yourself in your web of lies with every post.
Not to mention, you're insulting the very people who might have acted as voices of moderation out of pity for you, by calling them "sycophants" and "perjuring Swenet lackeys"? Wow.
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BTW, upon closer inspection of the FB thread in question, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt in regards to whether he took the image down or whether it was someone else. Clues from that thread, such as the indignation towards his actions on the part of some of the members and what looks like a direct implication of him:
“Yyt Al-Takruri Removed it but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of some AEs looking like Lupita or other Kenyans.”
seem to conform to my interpretation that he did it, but the capitalization of the r in "removed" makes it open to another reading as well.
Whether or not he did it makes little difference. Point still stands in regards to his heavily entrenched megalomania. Mr I’m never posting, but I have no problems barging in leftfield and insisting decorative changes be made at once because, and I quote, “I don’t like that picture”. As if dedicated members there are supposed to cave in to his every whim, because 'Mr. I only come out to leech and dictate', doesn’t like a particular decoration.
I myself didn’t participate in that discussion until later, but it’s interesting to note, upon revisiting that thread, that my recollection of the incident was right on point. Comments in that thread mirror my distinct recollection of his god complex-driven pretentiousness that day; his megalomanic antics didn’t go unnoticed by several others who participated in that discussion.
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What is this? You just posted someones private FB msg here? Did you get their permission first? Do they know that you are misrepresenting them? Do they approve?
“Yyt Al-Takruri Removed it but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of some AEs looking like Lupita or other Kenyans.”
What you bolded was originally a blue link.
Now you want to act like you don't know that blue link is equivalent to an @ sign as in @YYT al~Takruri.
Why would he drag it out and call me YYT AL~TAKRURI instead of just al~Takruri or something shorter?
Even the capitalized R following my tag shows YYT ALTAKRURI is not part of the sentence.
And you did take part in the conversation. You brokered it. I cannot legally post your msgs here but anyone on your FB can access that 'thread' and see you called for a vote before enacting global changes in the future and that just jumping up altering things was not a good precedent and gave reason why. I could post your timestamp but that too may be illegal (unless you request it).
Bring your so-called witnesses on. I can snap shot everything they originally posted verbatim and if they jump in I will have the legal right to post what they wrote if they lie and vary from what really happened.
I also inquired twice about any requirements of posting frequency. I was never given any specific quantity or time, just a vague assurance I was in regulation. I even shared my thoughts on myself as a poor fit because of the usual subject matter.
When you sulked over the low sporadic level of posts I gave you my thought as to why and to not worry.
The last time I posted I did so after researching to find what possibly could've been the ref somebody gave one FB member about a supposed aDNA mention in a legacy genetics publication.
I posted what I came up with and was ignored. I later asked what the specific goal was and again was ignored and unanswered. Not being a doormat I never posted again. Why go where not wanted is how I was raised.
You have deliberately distorted events and maligned me all with no apparent reason than at gut level disliking me. I don't care about that, people hating for no reason is a fact of life, no biggie. But to get a wild arse hair and persecute???
Isn't it always better to "Come now, let us reason together"
bottomline this ish is boring and wasteful I'd just as soon put it behind and move on or really back to square one.
In any event I don't think anyone cares and I'm tired of this vapid volleying.
Go on, have the last word, YOU WIN
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SMH at this manipulator going at it again. Entire post one big lie, as usual.
Never said I didn't participate in that thread
The tag use makes no difference, whatsoever; it's used to finger-point people all the time
A FB tag is not informative of punctuation, and therefore doesn't delineate a sentence
I "dragged" your "name" out, right after you did so in the post before that when you couldn't resist the temptation of posting self-serving excerpts regarding your "dazzling accomplishments" since elementary school, and labelled said random, unsolicited info with your own initials. Your manipulations flood the scene, even as they are under scrutiny.
I posted the contents of that comment (without a reference as to who posted it), after the lady in you revealed herself several times and took vengeful personal attacks to a whole new level by creating this thread. In some bizarre manipulative twist, we're led to believe that others are now infringers of privacy--not the person who started this thread.
You speak about your "last post" on the FB group as if people are supposed to be aware/care about your future posting behaviour or lack thereof. The only reason why you still had an account left to sadden people (lol) with your leave is because I gave you a pass, as outlined in the PM you published. He thinks the world revolves around him, hence, when he gets no answer to a casual question, he thinks people are out to get him and it’s a direct insult to his person. He then leaves passive aggressively without saying anything like a three year old toddler. Now he’s mentioning his leave in some sort of perverted way, as if any of the dedicated members would notice it if his presence, which was a tolerated presence in the first place, was to stop logging in. No doubt, it's his narcissism and megalomania that are speaking here.
Of course I'm going to have the last word. You're going to publish someone's PMs and attack people personally at will and expect others to not defend themselves and not to puke out of disgust at the sight of seeing you cry wolf about perceived personal attacks and seeing you parade around as some sort of moral police/bringer of "decorum"? You're one deranged sicko.
Even now, you're sitting here, presenting yourself as some sort of moral/legal authority, re: "not being able to legally post others' msgs". But you had no legal and moral qualms with transforming the PM in the OP of this thread into a full- fledged vengeful personal attack, which, as I noted before, is a first in ES' history.
This thread is becoming a disaster for the fake “al-Takruri” persona, and he wants it out of plain sight ASAP, so he can continue to splurge in the self-serving megalomanic fantasies he fabricates about himself when he thinks people who aren’t fooled by his act, aren’t looking. He wishes he could hop in his "modman" account and make this self-inflicted nightmare go away. Its mere existence is a threat to his credibility as a mod and as a person who has professed to stand for certain values over the years. It pains him to know that his embarrassing display is on record, and that it's not going anywhere.
I'll make sure of that.
quote: I cannot legally post your msgs here but anyone on your FB can access that 'thread' and see you called for a vote before enacting global changes in the future and that just jumping up altering things was not a good precedent and gave reason why.
^I'm having a blast right now . Isn't it amazing how things come full circle? A couple of weeks ago this two-faced snake published my PM to plant the suggestion in peoples' mind that I'm a tyrant who bosses people around and abuses his power. He is also fond of manipulating people into thinking that we’re a nepotistic bunch, calling the members there “sycophants” for no reason other than manipulate how we’re viewed in the public and attack our person. Look at his lying ass, now. Although it wasn’t his intention to come out and admit it, he’s inadvertently saying that the FB group has an essentially democratic governing system, where everyone has a say in matters. I dare you to contradict that it's democratic or even substantiate your tacit insinuation that I or others have shown favouritism that impacted you or anyone else for that matter, negatively. SMH at this compulsive liar.
quote:Go on, have the last word, YOU WIN
No. YOU LOSE after your botched attempt to make others lose. I had nothing to do with the losses you’ve sustained in regards to your credibility and trustworthiness as a mod or a person. You have it all to blame on yourself, and any attempt to suggest otherwise, as you did above, is another lying ass manipulation on your part.
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I'm giving you the opportunity to wave the white flag, stfu and run away from this thread (not that I won’t bump it in the future if you go into one of your manipulative victim roles and cry foul about perceived personal attacks again). If you rear your ugly head in this thread once more, I'm going to really make things interesting in here. Go ahead, try me. Flap your gums. Say one more thing out of that manipulative mouth of yours and see if I won’t further expose you more than you yourself already have. Run, move those cowardly legs.
"I was raised to not go where not wanted." --al Takruri(‘s real persona)
My advice to him is join the military and learn to kill without remorse or even a second thought. --al Takruri(‘s real persona)
If one comes to kill you QUICK SLAY HIM FIRST! --al Takruri(‘s real persona)
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I am still struggling to fathom how an obvious man-child like Tukuler managed to become a mod here. Especially after stunts like this. His behavior as a poster is some of the worst I've seen on ES all year long. Who in their right mind would trust this paranoid, manipulative psycho with the responsibility of moderating a forum like this? Frankly, Swenet would be better qualified for the job even if he's chosen to dissociate himself from this community.
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^Indeed. He's been entrusted with everyone's IP address--not the type of information I'd want in the possession of someone who is known to have no qualms with abusing private information as fuel for his own revengeful ends. He's clearly not mentally stable/mature for him to make threats and go apesh!t over something so trivial. He's like a disgruntled Superhead broad, writing a tell-all book. Which is interesting considering the things I could publish about him if I'd choose to reply in kind. Some people have no integrity whatsoever.
Thanks for your faith in me but I doubt I would qualify for the job. My strengths are put to better use elsewhere and my flaws, among other things, my impatience with bs, would only be amplified here. Put me where the people are who understand and abide by the scientific method.
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The OP PM is simply a very unprofessional ban notice written in Dear John style by an angry girlfriend. And why ES PM FB business?
You guys are funny
Hate on children hate on. Play on children play on. Schoolyard taunts and all. Go ahead, do your worse.
You cannot defeat me. You cannot destroy ES.
Ausar had his Abaza I got you two
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@Swenet- What are you? History or literature major? Fascinating use of words.
But I am confused ..banning is who's responsibility on FB? --
Quote; Have it your way, then. You're no longer welcome on the FB group as far as I'm concerned. I'm doing you a favour by not confronting you in the open or slandering your name by BANNING you and announcing why openly
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-- Quote : He's like a disgruntled Superhead broad, writing a tell-all book.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet:
This thread is becoming a disaster for the fake “al-Takruri” persona, and he wants it out of plain sight ASAP, so he can continue to splurge in the self-serving megalomanic fantasies he fabricates about himself when he thinks people who aren’t fooled by his act, aren’t looking. He wishes he could hop in his "modman" account and make this self-inflicted nightmare go away. Its mere existence is a threat to his credibility as a mod and as a person who has professed to stand for certain values over the years. It pains him to know that his embarrassing display is on record, and that it's not going anywhere.
I'll make sure of that.
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Nag nag natter and nag.
You can't make sure of anything you are powerless.
Here let me help you by hopping in my modman acct and stickying it for a while for you to further expose your nether regions. Knock yourself out. And oh yeah, feel free to post in the Hang the Bastard thread too.
I could've blown this thread away or effectively silenced/banned you by simply deleting all your posts were I even 1/1000th as warped and immature as you.
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Mr Megalomania is at it again with his devious, manipulations, comparing himself to a former mod with 1000x more class and interpersonal skills than he will ever have. Ausar has untarnished track record where the handling of private information is concerned. I trust that the forum will see his likening of this situation to Ausar and Abaza for the megalomania-driven emo coping strategy that it is. Whatever makes Mr Megalomania sleep at night.
@Xyyman
If you must know, there is an unspoken understanding that FB members are responsible for the new members they bring in. If new members and us don't seem a mutual fit it's best to go separate ways. It doesn't mean they're bad or whatever, it just means that there are other venues where active participation is not one of the aims. We know what type of members we're looking for and it's usually apparent within days of inviting them, whether they fit that mould they said they agreed upon. But people who have reached a certain plateau aren't deleted for not posting, it's an issue of willingness and commitment, not necessarily output or out-doing the next person. I considered Mr Megalomania here as having reached that plateau, just on the strength of who I considered him to be. I said that in that PM. Live and you learn I guess.
I've come to realize that it's better avoid giving potential duds the benefit of the doubt and then delete them when it turns out participation is of low priority to them vis a vis taking. Better to prevent than to cure. If someone doesn't have a track record or certain talents, I will politely pass and suggest other venues. I'm looking more towards academia for dedicated membership.
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Here let me help you by hopping in my modman acct and stickying it for a while for you to further expose your nether regions.
I could've blown this thread away or effectively silenced/banned you by simply deleting all your posts were I even 1/1000th as warped and immature as you.
It's precisely these antics that put me off about this narcissistic character. He's abusing his mod status and private PM information for outward displays and to prove points that do not serve this forum, but only his own childish gains. Who does this guy think he is?
This is not why he was given the admin keys--to thump his chest, make idle threats and mock charge like some gorilla. Either do as you say/what you secretly want to do or stfu.
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I was a member of the FB group at the time and I remember the discussion. Just to let anyone not privy to the conversation know that it wasn't acrimonious, simply a disagreement over that particular image. From memory, I think I said I thought the image 'cheesey', as in contrived, so was glad when it was replaced with an image that I think Al-Takruri suggested.
@Truthcentric Could you confirm whether it was you or Al-Takruri who removed the image from the FB site?
From what I remember, you deleted it, something born out by the FB quotes in this thread. But could you clarify?
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If that is the case. I agree the picture is "cheesy". And who would seriously put a picture like that up as an AE logo/banner. It is laughable and no one would take the group seriously.
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To be honest, I was more interested in the content rather than aesthetics, but again, I was happy when the picture was replaced. I think truthcentric was/is the only person there with artistic inclination so people seemed generally OK that he took the lead on that front - it was recommended that there should be a change and after discussion, it happened.
And as was said earlier in this thread it was decided among us that there would be consultation and discussion before any other changes were made.
Did I use the word 'cheesy' and/or 'saccharine' when I commented on it on FB? Doesn't matter, but you know what I mean.
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quote:Originally posted by tropicals redacted: @Truthcentric Could you confirm whether it was you or Al-Takruri who removed the image from the FB site?
From what I remember, you deleted it, something born out by the FB quotes in this thread. But could you clarify?
I thought it was me who took it down.
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quote:Originally posted by tropicals redacted: I was a member of the FB group at the time and I...., I think I said I thought the image 'cheesey', as in contrived,
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@Xyyman why would no one take the group seriously because of it? You'd have to explain that one to me.
I would be conflicted with it being an image of a celeb more than anything. Unless the image would depict AE in general like that, the reasons stated for why it would be inappropriate are baseless. Ashait and certain other Nubian queens testify to the historicity of such a portrayal (i.e. a specifically Sudanese phenotype in royal gear). And it wasn't a logo, it was a FB cover photo. Big difference. The former is immutable, images uploaded to the latter aren't.
And let's also not forget that Egypt isn't the only Nile Valley kingdom with pharaonic royal regalia, shall we? From memory, at the time the issue was raised, I don't think there was a reason to assume it should specifically refer to AE to begin with.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: @Gotcha Truthcentric
@Xyyman why would no one take the group seriously because of it? You'd have to explain that one to me.
I would be conflicted with it being an image of a celeb more than anything. Unless the image would depict AE in general like that, the reasons stated for why it would be inappropriate are baseless. Ashait and certain other Nubian queens testify to the historicity of such a portrayal (i.e. a specifically Sudanese phenotype in royal gear). And it wasn't a logo, it was a FB cover photo. Big difference. The former is immutable, images uploaded to the latter aren't.
And let's also not forget that Egypt isn't the only Nile Valley kingdom with pharaonic royal regalia, shall we? From memory, at the time the issue was raised, I don't think there was a reason to assume it should specifically refer to AE to begin with.
Actually the thought process that went through my head when I created that photo-manipulation did go something along the lines of "what would an ancient Egyptian queen look like if portrayed by a modern actress in a movie?" Hence the choice of Lupita Nyong'o. Well, that and I think she's pretty.
Sure, using a Northeast African actress instead of a Kenyan Luo might have made for a more historically accurate picture. But then how many A-list actors of specifically Northeast African descent are out there? Most of the prominent black actors I can name off the top of my head are either West/Central African or Diasporan offshoots thereof. If anything, Lupita is closer to the modal AE mark because she's East African for a change.
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And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there? Why are veterans at each others throats all of a sudden, if that is truly the case??
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To Tukuler, I find your complaints rather ironic. I remember years back when Ausar said he needed help moderating this forum someone suggested me. And even though I never wanted the job I noted how immediately after someone suggested me you went up in arms with a "HELL NO! I will leave for good" or that effect as if I were somehow your enemy and me being moderator somehow spells trouble for you!
Comes to show you can't please anyone let alone everyone. Again, I still don't want the job of moderator or any authoritative role yet I would imagine I would be the least impartial and follow a strict code of no obscene attacks and baseless trolling while allowing everything else let alone personal opinions.
For the life of me I don't know what you fear from me, but hey you get what you have available.
Frankly I myself have been rather busy with work and life to contribute as much as I want but I will try.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there?
I've never had a conflict with him over there, no one did. I've only had conflicts with him here, and I never let that spill over to other places. I wasn't on speaking terms with him during the incident with the cover photo and as you can see from his own underhanded admissions, I didn't rule against him or pick any sides.
Hence, why, despite his best efforts, his emotional tattle rant says more about his integrity and emotional instability than any of his intended targets. I'm still waiting on him to "expose" where I wronged him on the FB group, to justify his disgruntled Superhead tantrum.
Xyyman didn't surpise me when he allowed Tukuler to pull the wool over his eyes, but I'm surprised that you would buy into this manipulative victim role of his and his lying suggestions of unfair treatment and whatever he wants his gullible audience to believe. Thought you knew me better than that.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: And even though I never wanted the job I noted how immediately after someone suggested me you went up in arms with a "HELL NO! I will leave for good" or that effect
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Come on young man. That is a stretch. But you both make valuable contribution and I am not choosing sides. You boys should “kissy kissy” and make up…..until the next fight. Only white people carry grudges.
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Xyyman didn't surpise me when he allowed Tukuler to pull the wool over his eyes,
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there? Why are veterans at each others throats all of a sudden, if that is truly the case??
I dont understand why you and other members were so apprehensive about joining the group. It was specifically stated....repeatedly...... that it was not an alternative to ES or ESR.
Yall folks act is if once you joined you would be held hostage and stopped from leaving. Or lose access to the internet or something. I don't get it.
There is no conspiracy going on in the FB group. The only difference is that we are focused on research and commentary of papers rarely discussed on the web and are somewhat exclusive. Tracking down odd papers. Tracking down african ancient DNA studies. Posting images and text from purchased books. Stuff like that that is what we do...not relishing ad infinitum over DNA tribes data from years ago........or posting context-less collages with 15 year old data or walls of text that nobody will even read.
I dont know what people are doing here...but the data is out there, good stuff....you just have to actively search for it or have the need for new information. I don't see that here any longer.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there? Why are veterans at each others throats all of a sudden, if that is truly the case??
I dont understand why you and other members were so apprehensive about joining the group. It was specifically stated....repeatedly...... that it was not an alternative to ES or ESR.
Yall folks act is if once you joined you would be held hostage and stopped from leaving. Or lose access to the internet or something. I don't get it.
There is no conspiracy going on in the FB group. The only difference is that we are focused on research and commentary of papers rarely discussed on the web and are somewhat exclusive. Tracking down odd papers. Tracking down african ancient DNA studies. Posting images and text from purchased books. Stuff like that that is what we do...not relishing ad infinitum over DNA tribes data from years ago........or posting context-less collages with 15 year old data or walls of text that nobody will even read.
I dont know what people are doing here...but the data is out there, good stuff....you just have to actively search for it or have the need for new information. I don't see that here any longer.
As a member of the FB group I can co-sign this. There is no conspiracy. Theres hardly any off-topic stuff and no one even tries to act like an authority. We mostly discuss various studies posted. Thats it.
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^ I guess it really doesn't matter since I can leave the group at any time, but I'll just take your word and I check it out anyway.
quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Xyyman didn't surpise me when he allowed Tukuler to pull the wool over his eyes, but I'm surprised that you would buy into this manipulative victim role of his and his lying suggestions of unfair treatment and whatever he wants his gullible audience to believe. Thought you knew me better than that.
I never bought into the notion that Tukuler was somehow a 'victim' but it's obvious he has some issue with you. I'm just curious as to why.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: And even though I never wanted the job I noted how immediately after someone suggested me you went up in arms with a "HELL NO! I will leave for good" or that effect
Wow.
Yeah. I've always respected Tukuler as any other vet in this forum and while I personally never had a problem with him I do wonder what his issue was/is with me. But oh well.
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slow DJ. You missed his point or is it selective memory?
He does not like the idea of non-African/non-Black being in charge of Africana....which is hypocritical since this site is owned by white and/or a Turk.
ESR/TNV is fully run by Blacks and ESR well run and maintained.
BUt...you know the line. "If it is white it is right"
Not saying ES does not have it's benefits. White racist are less "fearful" of entering ES. They prefer to lurk on ESR.
And that is the difference between ESR and ES. Both have their plus(s) ESR is more civil and a great resource for spreading knowledge. ES is the battle ground.
ES works well. The only turn off was the large pictures posted by that nutty guy who had a beef with TP and the occasional annoying racist who spouts racist epiphets without being able to substantiate his claims. I am not talking about Cass. Cass can at least "bring it".
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: I never bought into the notion that Tukuler was somehow a 'victim' but it's obvious he has some issue with you. I'm just curious as to why.
Again, legitimizing his manipulations by presuming that he's had a reason to have an issue to begin with and by exclaiming "What the heck is going on there?"
As the PM in the OP states, he's had it good enough there to enjoy a privileged position (which wasn't based on any efforts on his part), and that said privilege was then revoked for a specific reason, while offering him a drama-free way out as far as the public eye is concerned.
He then CHOSE to manipulate it and turn it into a spectacular narrative where he was somehow victimized and you and Xyyman ate it right up like a bunch of gullible chickens without heads. How knee-deep can you be in his manipulations without realizing it? That's okay though. As with Xyyman, no love lost.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: slow DJ. You missed his point or is it selective memory?
He does not like the idea of non-African/non-Black being in charge of Africana....which is hypocritical since this site is owned by white and/or a Turk.
I've always suspected this to be the case, but since when does being a moderator all of a sudden mean 'being in charge of Africana'??! Last time I checked, being moderator does NOT mean deciding what topics are to be discussed and by whom. Even Ausar allows the discussion of African civilizations other than Egypt and such goes on all the time here. All of this besides the obvious racial/cultural bias on his part since on other forums non-Asians including blacks discuss Asian history and culture all the time.
But forget it. In the end it doesn't really matter.
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