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Tukuler
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  • I invited you, never deleted you like the others,
    despite the fact that you was a no-show. Let you
    walk in and out whenever you wanted to, without
    asking you to lift a finger. Yet you spit in my
    face and apparently don't even have the decency
    to at least speak the truth. Have it your way,
    then. You're no longer welcome on the FB group as
    far as I'm concerned. I'm doing you a favour by
    not confronting you in the open or slandering
    your name by banning you and announcing why
    openly. I'll leave that to you and the rest of
    you ladies at the gossip table during your next
    get together. The moment I see you rear your head
    in the FB group, you're banned.

I was raised to not go where not wanted.

I hope you get a wife, some children,
and standing in a real life community.
That's where it's really at. Face to
face with real people who can reach
out and touch you when needed.

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...so you decided to post an excerpt from a private conversation just because he kicked you out of the FB group? Someone is a vindictive prick here (and it's not whom you're bitching about).

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^^^ Truthcentric also as known as Swenet's lap dog. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate:
^^^ Truthcentric also as known as Swenet's lap dog. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

theres a back story
he's mad because in the horner thread, p 6, Tukular changed his name from truthcentric to centric and said he lied

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009022;p=6#000292


quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
quote:
Originally posted by Centric:

As to whether ancient Egyptians or Nubians would have identified as Black people had their culture and phenotype persisted to the modern post-colonial era, that we can only speculate.

.

Book of Gates Gate of Teka Hra vignette(scene) 30 says you lie.


  •  -
     -

    This translation supercedes my previous
    postings
    , is tentative, not literal, rather
    designed for 21st century understandings.

December 2004 was when I first began presenting it here. See
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/001098.html or
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=001098

  • Excerpts originally posted by alTakruri on October 04, 2006:

    Transliteration and translation of the 1st 5 columns
    of the Book of Gates the Gate of Teka Hra vignette 30


    code:
    CAPS = multi-literal phonogram; 
    : = determinative;
    [] = unvoiced phonetic compliment;
    . = suffix

    code:
    Col1: ĺ-n                HRW   n    nn.[n-n]
    Says(interogative) Heru to these:
    -
    Col2: [HHQ3].`a-w-t.plural RA
    "Herds (of) Ra
    -
    Col3: ĺ-m.w:plural DWA.t:pr
    Dwellers (in) netherworld.
    -
    Col4: KM[m].t:nwt d-sh-r.t:nwt AKH
    Black community. Red community.
    -
    Col5: [kh]:scroll n th-n:plural HQA.w:plural RA
    Beatification to ye subjects (of) Ra!

     -


    The "four types" -- or better, the "subjects of Ra" -- scene depicts the sun in
    the 5th night hour with Heru addressing the dead. He verbally divides them
    into the blacks (Nile Valley folk, i.e., Egyptians and Nehesis) under his protection,
    and the reds (folk dwelling east or west of the Nile) under Sekhet's protection.


    Heru is addressing all four types, first with a general intro
    to the entire party of the afterlife dead (who died that day) still
    in their shrouds. He "beatifies" them, reanimates them with
    "spirit" (breath/wind), and releases them from their shrouds.
    Then after all that he addresses each group in turn speaking
    of the origins of their creation and assigning their "patron" deity.
    First the RT RMTW and then in from sunrise to sunset order the
    AAMW, NHHSW, and TMHHW .

    The NWT ideogram means neither people nor land.

    The
    glyph depicts a crossroads indicating a village or city, i.e. a
    settlement or habitation. thus the use of it to mean community
    in its broad application for the corpus of the dead. It [mostly]
    appears as the determinative following the name of a city.


    Now if one wants to take black as meaning literal black skin, then
    go ahead. I recognize a range of skin tones among blacks and
    also recognize the difference as used in Africa between blacks
    and reds, both of whom may be African, and blacks and reds
    where reds means coloureds and whites. As an example, in
    medieval Arab writings they class themselves as reds in
    distinction to black Africans of Biled es Sudan but as blacks
    in distinction to red/white Eurasians like Persians, Slavs, etc.

    ____________________________________


    In scene 30 Horus establishes the blacks and the
    reds as two communities not races, a concept not
    introduced until the birth of anthropology in the
    18th century in expansionist Europe.

    In scene 30 Heru states that the blacks are the
    creations of his or Re's tears/semen and under
    his patronage whereas the reds have Sekhmet as
    their patron.

    The blacks are the RT RMT yw and the NHHSW Nile dwellers.
    The reds are the A3MW and TMHHW of the adjoining deserts.

However Truth C. is right, it's inappropriate to post private messages
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What is going with the FB group. Are they stroking each others dick? Really Swenet? Always figured you were gay tyrant. You need to grow up....brotha and understand life.


@ Lioness, private? No one knows who is at the keyboard. You are a black woman! Wink! Wink!

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Btw. What is the "gossip table ". ?

Maybe you need an impartial admin like Anansi at the helm of the FB group

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Gay Tyrant? What are you talking about? There are
no acting admins. No one is actively moderating
the place because we don't need to. The reference
to deleted individuals refers to people who refused
to comply with the conditions under which they were
let in, i.e. contributing every once in a while.
This basic demand was clarified in the thread where
the FB group was announced, so no one has an excuse.
No one was ever deleted for any other reason than
what I just mentioned or trolling. And the others
had nothing to do with it; I acted on my own. If
you don't know what's going on, please just stay
out of it.

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Tukuler
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Anybody proclaiming themselves as truth
bearers are in fact the epitome of ego
centricism. There are facts but truth
varies from person to person.

I find this guy whom I have defended in
the past can't get off his knees and off
of his friends nutsack. I guess it tastes
as good as a nigra gals kitty to him.

Guy says AEs and ASs are dubiously black
but proposed this image as the average /
predominant phenotype for AE as the FB logo
 -
which they (so awed to have a white boy
in their midst) chastised me for challenging
it.

Some negroes just love a one way whiteman
on blackwoman (even portraying royalty as
beckoningly adulterous to palace slaves)
who never once presents a blackman on
whitewoman casual sex "relationship"
as just what they need to sell him
their daughter wife sister mother.


This ain't life. This is an ailing chat board.
And unlike the FB circle jerk it's all the way
beyond censorship by its anal retentive cabal
leader.

Moral of the story: I'll post what I damn well
please. I struck first. If one comes to kill you
QUICK SLAY HIM FIRST! Especially when he's so
ball less as to make up some 'oh how you have
wronged me' hand wringing bullshit to justify
what he feels quilty about doing (no rules
broken on my part). My advice to him is join
the military and learn to kill without remorse
or even a second thought.

quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate:
^^^ Truthcentric also as known as Swenet's lap dog. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

theres a back story
he's mad because in the horner thread, p 6, Tukular changed his name from truthcentric to centric and said he lied

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009022;p=6#000292


quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
quote:
Originally posted by Centric:

As to whether ancient Egyptians or Nubians would have identified as Black people had their culture and phenotype persisted to the modern post-colonial era, that we can only speculate.

.

Book of Gates Gate of Teka Hra vignette(scene) 30 says you lie.


  •  -
     -

    This translation supercedes my previous
    postings
    , is tentative, not literal, rather
    designed for 21st century understandings.

December 2004 was when I first began presenting it here. See
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/001098.html or
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=001098

  • Excerpts originally posted by alTakruri on October 04, 2006:

    Transliteration and translation of the 1st 5 columns
    of the Book of Gates the Gate of Teka Hra vignette 30


    code:
    CAPS = multi-literal phonogram; 
    : = determinative;
    [] = unvoiced phonetic compliment;
    . = suffix

    code:
    Col1: ĺ-n                HRW   n    nn.[n-n]
    Says(interogative) Heru to these:
    -
    Col2: [HHQ3].`a-w-t.plural RA
    "Herds (of) Ra
    -
    Col3: ĺ-m.w:plural DWA.t:pr
    Dwellers (in) netherworld.
    -
    Col4: KM[m].t:nwt d-sh-r.t:nwt AKH
    Black community. Red community.
    -
    Col5: [kh]:scroll n th-n:plural HQA.w:plural RA
    Beatification to ye subjects (of) Ra!

     -


    The "four types" -- or better, the "subjects of Ra" -- scene depicts the sun in
    the 5th night hour with Heru addressing the dead. He verbally divides them
    into the blacks (Nile Valley folk, i.e., Egyptians and Nehesis) under his protection,
    and the reds (folk dwelling east or west of the Nile) under Sekhet's protection.


    Heru is addressing all four types, first with a general intro
    to the entire party of the afterlife dead (who died that day) still
    in their shrouds. He "beatifies" them, reanimates them with
    "spirit" (breath/wind), and releases them from their shrouds.
    Then after all that he addresses each group in turn speaking
    of the origins of their creation and assigning their "patron" deity.
    First the RT RMTW and then in from sunrise to sunset order the
    AAMW, NHHSW, and TMHHW .

    The NWT ideogram means neither people nor land.

    The
    glyph depicts a crossroads indicating a village or city, i.e. a
    settlement or habitation. thus the use of it to mean community
    in its broad application for the corpus of the dead. It [mostly]
    appears as the determinative following the name of a city.


    Now if one wants to take black as meaning literal black skin, then
    go ahead. I recognize a range of skin tones among blacks and
    also recognize the difference as used in Africa between blacks
    and reds, both of whom may be African, and blacks and reds
    where reds means coloureds and whites. As an example, in
    medieval Arab writings they class themselves as reds in
    distinction to black Africans of Biled es Sudan but as blacks
    in distinction to red/white Eurasians like Persians, Slavs, etc.

    ____________________________________


    In scene 30 Horus establishes the blacks and the
    reds as two communities not races, a concept not
    introduced until the birth of anthropology in the
    18th century in expansionist Europe.

    In scene 30 Heru states that the blacks are the
    creations of his or Re's tears/semen and under
    his patronage whereas the reds have Sekhmet as
    their patron.

    The blacks are the RT RMT yw and the NHHSW Nile dwellers.
    The reds are the A3MW and TMHHW of the adjoining deserts.

However Truth C. is right, it's inappropriate to post private messages


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Tukuler
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The gossip table is where he and his
lackeys sit and stew over ES the place
they cannabalized though calling it
good for nothing yet continuously
posting to it.

Curious as to their FB page?
I suggest you join it and see
firsthand without relying on
rumor. You just might find
you like it.


And no one is impartial. All mods
are biased to a certain degree and
will allow some to get away with
what they won't let others do.

quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Btw. What is the "gossip table ". ?

Maybe you need an impartial admin like Anansi at the helm of the FB group


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quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
The gossip table is where he and his
lackeys sit and stew over ES the place
they cannabalized though calling it
good for nothing yet continuously
posting to it.

Curious as to their FB page?
I suggest you join it and see
firsthand without relying on
rumor. You just might find
you like it.


And no one is impartial. All mods
are biased to a certain degree and
will allow some to get away with
what they won't let others do.

quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Btw. What is the "gossip table ". ?

Maybe you need an impartial admin like Anansi at the helm of the FB group


Interesting.....
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Tukuler
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Swenet just referenced this thread
angered over its exposure of his
hypocrisy.

Bring it here coward.

His current game plan is to goad
me into full throttle attack now
that I am moderator and cannot
address him as if a non-moderator
who doesn't have to set an example
of the decorum the forum requires.

What he does here at ES and the way
he writes here he would never allow
on his private FB forum. He comes
here to publicly show his nether
regions then hides in his tower
where no one can give it back
to him the way he dishes it.

That is cowardly imo.

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I have no intention to post anything here. I intent
to leave this thread exactly as-is, so others
can see what an emotionally unstable mess you are.
That you'll stop at nothing to lash back at trivial
stuff, even publicising private PMs (which don't
even have anything incriminating in them). Why,
because you were banned? LMAO. This thread is a
gift, more than anything. You exposed yourself
and you keep on exposing yourself every time you
equate legitimate criticisms regarding your posts
and dirty tactics with personal attacks. After
all, this thread proves that you're all about
personal attacks and emotional tantrums. It proves
that you're full of sh!t whenever you paint others
as attacking you on a personal level whenever
they criticise your manipulations and tricks.

And you have it all backwards. There is no such
thing as my FB forum. I'm no active mod
there. Why do you keep on lying? You've deleted
more there than I have, self-righteous douchebag.
Yeah, weren't you the one who started deleting
pictures on your own account without consulting
anyone, because you didn't like said pictures?
LOL. You god complex having self-righteous prick.
You show up once in a blue moon at the FB group
and you think you can start redecorating the place,
but have the nerve to make it out to look like
I'm bossing people around and dictating how
things are over there? Sicko. Go take your meds.

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Tukuler
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In his best kitchen gossip hag drag:
"Oh boo hoo hoo bad al~takruri bad"



Fuhhhhhhhhhhhhhnny

quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:

I have no intention to post anything here.

.

But you just did! [Big Grin] gotcha

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quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:

quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
Bring it here coward.

I have no intention to post anything here.
But you just did!

Where do you see a reply to the reason you bumped
this thread? All I did was point out the elephant
in the room. Let's keep it real here, Mr. Emo slash
megalomania, if my emotions were as female natured
as yours and I had no integrity (like you) I would
be posting private materials that'd have you ashamed
to show your face here. You're a lying fraud. Like
I said, do yourself a favour and go take your meds
before you embarrass yourself further than you
already have.

This thread is not going anywhere. I'm going to
savour it for whenever Mr Emo slash megalomania's
2nd personality comes out, you know, the one where
he starts crying that everyone is out to get him
and that they're committing personal attacks agains
him, when all he ever tries to do is have on-topic
debates. LMAO. How mentally deranged can you
possibly be to literally take personal attacks to
a whole nother, previously unheard of level, by
creating threads like this, and to then masquerade
elsewhere as some walking paragon of forum etiquette.
Not only that, but to then voluntarily BUMP this
thread and not feel conflicted in any way, shape
or form about the discrepancy between said front
and his manipulative victim role.

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Tukuler
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Interesting self-portrait of Swenet above.

Dr. Jeckyl on FB
Mr. Hyde on ES

but everywhere as
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

Swenet? Always figured you were gay tyrant. You need to grow up....brotha and understand life.

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
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Xyyman calling me a tyrant because you manipulated him
into thinking that I'm moderating the FB group like a tyrant
(when no moderating takes place there) does little to help
your case. In fact, it further exposes you as the manipulative
liar that you are. You know no moderating takes place there,
let alone unfair moderation, so even you using his citation to
make some perverted point, is a manipulation.

Keep bumping this thread "Modman Ardo". Show the world
how ES' new moderator is the Dalai Lama of refraining from
personal attacks and lies. Not to mention, spastic emotional
outburst that put everyone at risk of having their PMs publicised
when they rub you the wrong way. And what about ES' posts
"Modman", are your revengeful split personalities also going to
delete ES' posts when they rub your split personalities the
wrong way, like how you had the audacity to delete things at
the FB group without consulting the other members?

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Is it anal-retentive to speak for others?
It certainly is a mark of tyranny.
Xyyman can speak for himself.
He already told us why he
calls you the Gay Tyrant.

But You? You sound like the guy
kept saying Carthage must fall!

I deleted nothing from the FB group.
Hell I didn't even know enough about
FB to format a paragraph until Brandon
showed me. I can do whatever I want to
my own FB account. What images I choose
to use for myself is beyond any control
freak. The very gall that you or some
group dictate what avatar I choose for
my personal FB acct.

With each succeeding post more and more
you reveal the mental workings of the
chieftess of a high school girls clique.

Seriously, you're a big joke, lies et al.

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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And the lies and manipulations continue. The
sheer entertainment of seeing a known liar and
manipulator getting caught up in his own web of
lies. Now he's dangling from Xyyman's jock,
presumably some underhanded ploy to get him to
come in and take the spotlight away from his
self-destructive behaviour, which he's put up
for everyone to see in the first place by creating
and repeatedly bumping this thread. What a
compromising position to be in for a "mod" who
likes to style himself as a paragon of decorum
and forum etiquette.

This lying personality above me remembers that
Brandon uploaded the image he posted above to
the FB group, but he doesn't remember that he
barged in from nowhere and took it upon himself
to take it down in one of his sick moments of
epic pretentiousness. Must have been more or
less his third contribution around the time he
did that, but he was apparently already feeling
himself because not even the founding members
with numerous contributions throw around their
weight like that. But then again, none of those
other members have a god complex.

Says he doesn't remember any of this. Must have
been one of his other split personalities then,
that barged in from out of nowhere, took the image
down without prior discussion, and tried to defend
said presumptuous act afterwards.

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Yeah if you call msging the
group of my opinion the img
was not correct for the avg
or predominant type in AE.

After voicing my surprise at
subbing a non-AE as the AE
logo of the group, Brandon
himself took it down.

Get a life Jr. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


Swenet doesn't know Seagate
portable drives come with a
function that will save FB
pages. I don't even need
to call on a perjuring
Swenet lackey. I got
the firsthand docs.

[Cool]


Under INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY law I own
the rights to anything I put on the 'net and
can darn well do what I please with them.


After Brandon notified me he pulled the img I replied.
  • Yyt Al-Takruri 7:28pm Apr 18

    True, but some is not the average. Nor are Massai Luo. We do not all look alike. AEs left us enough art to see what in general and particular they looked like. Why choose a minority type as representative? But you know what? Put it back up. Nobody else seemed to mind. Maybe I'm too critical.
  • Yyt Al-Takruri 9:03pm Apr 19

    I've studied AE since elementary school when I was chastised for going to the front of the classroom pulling down the maps and demonstrating Egypt is located in Africa and demonstrating Egypt is not located in Asia nor Europe contrary to what teacher was teaching. When I first learned hieroglyphics not long ago I used a passage from the Book of Gates to show Egypts ranked themselves and Nehesu as blacks in distinction to Aamu and Tjemehu as reds. I do not cotton to the word negro or its derivatives. Many facial features were present in Egypt. The one Brandon chose was not representative of the average Egyptian female. Brandon's choice was a minority in Egypt but does have the general looks of Luo women of my acquaintance. Face front cartonages of dark skinned AE women do exist. Perhaps using one of them would be more accurate than even a Saidi or other modern day Upper Egyptian.


After that Brandon himself redid the banner
following my suggestion of a cartonnage lady.


I hope you Swenet psychophants are following
this and see just what kind of personality
your group founder is. He lies about me,
you think he won't do the same to you
the moment you stand your ground in
opposition to one of his stances?

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Are you really going to keep up this lie with this
ardency and with more than three ES people as witnesses
to the exchange? That you admit to having a saved
history of the exchange undermines any hopes on
your part of being able to chalk your earlier denial
up to memory loss. There is no way back now: you
had access to a saved report of the incident and
still chose to report a fabricated account of what
happened. What's interesting to that end, is that
you cited a couple of red herring excerpts that
are irrelevant to the matter at hand (re: your
self-serving boastful mumbo jumbo about the book
of gates and elementary school), but you made sure
to omit any excerpts relevant to the matter at hand,
that expose you for the lying manipulator that you
are.

You do know a first-hand witness is going to jump
in sooner or later and you won't be able to hide
any more behind that it's currently your word against
mine in the eye of the public, right?

Wow. [Eek!] You really are a sick pathological liar in
real life, aren't you? You've lost all credibility
at this point. And the good part is.. you did it
all to yourself. You dug a hole for someone else
to fall in and you "Bob Doled" in it yourself. You
can't blame anyone. Your desperation is showing
by your desperate emotional pleas, first to Xyyman
and now to the very witnesses of the exchange, who,
in fact, can vouch for the fact that you're going
on record lying again and again, further encapsulating
yourself in your web of lies with every post.

 -

Not to mention, you're insulting the very people
who might have acted as voices of moderation out
of pity for you, by calling them "sycophants" and
"perjuring Swenet lackeys"? Wow.

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BTW, upon closer inspection of the FB thread in
question, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt
in regards to whether he took the image down or
whether it was someone else. Clues from that
thread, such as the indignation towards his
actions on the part of some of the members and
what looks like a direct implication of him:

Yyt Al-Takruri Removed it but I wouldn't
rule out the possibility of some AEs looking like
Lupita or other Kenyans.”

seem to conform to my interpretation that he did
it, but the capitalization of the r in "removed" makes
it open to another reading as well.

Whether or not he did it makes little difference.
Point still stands in regards to his heavily
entrenched megalomania. Mr I’m never posting, but
I have no problems barging in leftfield and insisting
decorative changes be made at once because, and I
quote, “I don’t like that picture”. As if dedicated
members there are supposed to cave in to his every
whim, because 'Mr. I only come out to leech and
dictate', doesn’t like a particular decoration.

I myself didn’t participate in that discussion
until later, but it’s interesting to note, upon
revisiting that thread, that my recollection of the
incident was right on point. Comments in that
thread mirror my distinct recollection of his god
complex-driven pretentiousness that day; his
megalomanic antics didn’t go unnoticed by several
others who participated in that discussion.

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What is this? You just posted
someones private FB msg here?
Did you get their permission
first? Do they know that you
are misrepresenting them? Do
they approve?


  • Yyt Al-Takruri Removed it but I wouldn't
    rule out the possibility of some AEs looking like
    Lupita or other Kenyans.”

What you bolded was originally a blue link.

Now you want to act like you don't
know that blue link is equivalent
to an @ sign as in @YYT al~Takruri.

Why would he drag it out and call
me YYT AL~TAKRURI instead of just
al~Takruri or something shorter?

Even the capitalized R following
my tag shows YYT ALTAKRURI
is not part of the sentence.

And you did take part in the
conversation. You brokered it.
I cannot legally post your msgs
here but anyone on your FB can
access that 'thread' and see
you called for a vote before
enacting global changes in the
future and that just jumping up
altering things was not a good
precedent and gave reason why.
I could post your timestamp but
that too may be illegal (unless
you request it).

Bring your so-called witnesses
on. I can snap shot everything
they originally posted verbatim
and if they jump in I will have
the legal right to post what they
wrote if they lie and vary from what
really happened.


I also inquired twice about any
requirements of posting frequency.
I was never given any specific
quantity or time, just a vague
assurance I was in regulation.
I even shared my thoughts on
myself as a poor fit because
of the usual subject matter.

When you sulked over the low
sporadic level of posts I
gave you my thought as to
why and to not worry.

The last time I posted I did so
after researching to find what
possibly could've been the ref
somebody gave one FB member
about a supposed aDNA mention
in a legacy genetics publication.

I posted what I came up with
and was ignored. I later asked
what the specific goal was and
again was ignored and unanswered.
Not being a doormat I never
posted again. Why go where
not wanted is how I was raised.


You have deliberately distorted
events and maligned me all with
no apparent reason than at gut
level disliking me. I don't care
about that, people hating for no
reason is a fact of life, no biggie.
But to get a wild arse hair and
persecute???

Isn't it always better to
"Come now, let us reason together"


[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


bottomline
this ish is boring and wasteful
I'd just as soon put it behind
and move on or really back to
square one.

In any event I don't think
anyone cares and I'm tired
of this vapid volleying.

Go on, have the last word,
YOU WIN

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SMH at this manipulator going at it again. Entire
post one big lie, as usual.

  • Never said I didn't participate in that thread

  • The tag use makes no difference, whatsoever; it's
    used to finger-point people all the time

  • A FB tag is not informative of punctuation,
    and therefore doesn't delineate a sentence

  • I "dragged" your "name" out, right after you
    did so in the post before that when you couldn't resist
    the temptation of posting self-serving excerpts
    regarding your "dazzling accomplishments" since
    elementary school, and labelled said random,
    unsolicited info with your own initials. Your
    manipulations flood the scene, even as they are
    under scrutiny.

  • I posted the contents of that comment (without a
    reference as to who posted it), after the lady in you
    revealed herself several times and took vengeful
    personal attacks to a whole new level by creating
    this thread. In some bizarre manipulative twist,
    we're led to believe that others are now infringers
    of privacy--not the person who started this thread.

  • You speak about your "last post" on the FB group
    as if people are supposed to be aware/care
    about your future posting behaviour or lack thereof.
    The only reason why you still had an account left
    to sadden people (lol) with your leave is because
    I gave you a pass, as outlined in the PM you published.
    He thinks the world revolves around him, hence, when
    he gets no answer to a casual question, he thinks
    people are out to get him and it’s a direct insult
    to his person. He then leaves passive aggressively
    without saying anything like a three year old
    toddler. Now he’s mentioning his leave in some
    sort of perverted way, as if any of the dedicated
    members would notice it if his presence, which
    was a tolerated presence in the first place,
    was to stop logging in. No doubt, it's his
    narcissism and megalomania that are speaking here.

Of course I'm going to have the last word. You're
going to publish someone's PMs and attack people
personally at will and expect others to not defend
themselves and not to puke out of disgust at the
sight of seeing you cry wolf about perceived
personal attacks and seeing you parade around as
some sort of moral police/bringer of "decorum"?
You're one deranged sicko.

Even now, you're sitting here, presenting yourself
as some sort of moral/legal authority, re: "not
being able to legally post others' msgs". But you
had no legal and moral qualms with transforming
the PM in the OP of this thread into a full-
fledged vengeful personal attack, which, as I
noted before, is a first in ES' history.

This thread is becoming a disaster for the fake
“al-Takruri” persona, and he wants it out of plain
sight ASAP, so he can continue to splurge in the
self-serving megalomanic fantasies he fabricates
about himself when he thinks people who aren’t
fooled by his act, aren’t looking. He wishes he
could hop in his "modman" account and make this
self-inflicted nightmare go away. Its mere existence
is a threat to his credibility as a mod and as a
person who has professed to stand for certain
values over the years. It pains him to know that
his embarrassing display is on record, and that
it's not going anywhere.

I'll make sure of that.


quote:

I cannot legally post your msgs
here but anyone on your FB can
access that 'thread' and see
you called for a vote before
enacting global changes in the
future and that just jumping up
altering things was not a good
precedent and gave reason why.

^I'm having a blast right now  - . Isn't it amazing
how things come full circle? A couple of weeks
ago this two-faced snake published my PM to plant
the suggestion in peoples' mind that I'm a tyrant
who bosses people around and abuses his power. He
is also fond of manipulating people into thinking
that we’re a nepotistic bunch, calling the members
there “sycophants” for no reason other than
manipulate how we’re viewed in the public and
attack our person. Look at his lying ass, now.
Although it wasn’t his intention to come out and
admit it, he’s inadvertently saying that the FB
group has an essentially democratic governing system,
where everyone has a say in matters. I dare you
to contradict that it's democratic or even substantiate
your tacit insinuation that I or others have
shown favouritism that impacted you or anyone
else for that matter, negatively. SMH at this
compulsive liar.

quote:
Go on, have the last word, YOU WIN
No. YOU LOSE after your botched attempt to make
others lose. I had nothing to do with the losses
you’ve sustained in regards to your credibility
and trustworthiness as a mod or a person. You have
it all to blame on yourself, and any attempt to
suggest otherwise, as you did above, is another
lying ass manipulation on your part.

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I'm giving you the opportunity to wave the white
flag, stfu and run away from this thread (not
that I won’t bump it in the future if you go into
one of your manipulative victim roles and cry foul
about perceived personal attacks again). If you
rear your ugly head in this thread once more, I'm
going to really make things interesting in here.
Go ahead, try me. Flap your gums. Say one more
thing out of that manipulative mouth of yours and
see if I won’t further expose you more than you
yourself already have. Run, move those cowardly
legs.

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"I was raised to not go where not wanted."
--al Takruri(‘s real persona)

My advice to him is join the military and
learn to kill without remorse or even a second
thought.

--al Takruri(‘s real persona)

If one comes to kill you QUICK SLAY HIM FIRST!
--al Takruri(‘s real persona)

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I am still struggling to fathom how an obvious man-child like Tukuler managed to become a mod here. Especially after stunts like this. His behavior as a poster is some of the worst I've seen on ES all year long. Who in their right mind would trust this paranoid, manipulative psycho with the responsibility of moderating a forum like this? Frankly, Swenet would be better qualified for the job even if he's chosen to dissociate himself from this community.

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^Indeed. He's been entrusted with everyone's IP
address--not the type of information I'd want
in the possession of someone who is known to have
no qualms with abusing private information as fuel
for his own revengeful ends. He's clearly not
mentally stable/mature for him to make threats
and go apesh!t over something so trivial. He's
like a disgruntled Superhead broad, writing a
tell-all book. Which is interesting considering
the things I could publish about him if I'd choose
to reply in kind. Some people have no integrity
whatsoever.

Thanks for your faith in me but I doubt I would
qualify for the job. My strengths are put to better
use elsewhere and my flaws, among other things, my
impatience with bs, would only be amplified here.
Put me where the people are who understand and
abide by the scientific method.

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The OP PM is simply a very
unprofessional ban notice
written in Dear John style
by an angry girlfriend. And
why ES PM FB business?

You guys are funny

Hate on children hate on.
Play on children play on.
Schoolyard taunts and all.
Go ahead, do your worse.

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


You cannot defeat me.
You cannot destroy ES.


Ausar had his Abaza
I got you two [Cool]

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@Swenet-
What are you? History or literature major? Fascinating use of words. [Razz]


But I am confused ..banning is who's responsibility on FB?
--

Quote;
Have it your way,
then. You're no longer welcome on the FB group as
far as I'm concerned. I'm doing you a favour by
not confronting you in the open or slandering
your name by BANNING you
and announcing why
openly

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This is funny. Ahhhh! the good ole days


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quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:

This thread is becoming a disaster for the fake
“al-Takruri” persona, and he wants it out of plain
sight ASAP
, so he can continue to splurge in the
self-serving megalomanic fantasies he fabricates
about himself when he thinks people who aren’t
fooled by his act, aren’t looking. He wishes he
could hop in his "modman" account and make this
self-inflicted nightmare go away
. Its mere existence
is a threat to his credibility as a mod and as a
person who has professed to stand for certain
values over the years. It pains him to know that
his embarrassing display is on record, and that
it's not going anywhere.

I'll make sure of that.

.

Nag nag natter and nag.

You can't make sure of anything you are powerless.

Here let me help you by hopping in my modman acct
and stickying it for a while for you to further expose
your nether regions. Knock yourself out. And oh yeah,
feel free to post in the Hang the Bastard thread too.

I could've blown this thread away or effectively
silenced/banned you by simply deleting all your posts
were I even 1/1000th as warped and immature as you.

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Mr Megalomania is at it again with his devious,
manipulations, comparing himself to a former mod
with 1000x more class and interpersonal skills
than he will ever have. Ausar has untarnished
track record where the handling of private
information is concerned. I trust that the forum
will see his likening of this situation to Ausar
and Abaza for the megalomania-driven emo coping
strategy that it is. Whatever makes Mr Megalomania
sleep at night.

@Xyyman

If you must know, there is an unspoken understanding
that FB members are responsible for the new members
they bring in. If new members and us don't seem
a mutual fit it's best to go separate ways. It
doesn't mean they're bad or whatever, it just
means that there are other venues where active
participation is not one of the aims. We know
what type of members we're looking for and it's
usually apparent within days of inviting them,
whether they fit that mould they said they agreed
upon. But people who have reached a certain plateau
aren't deleted for not posting, it's an issue of
willingness and commitment, not necessarily output
or out-doing the next person. I considered Mr
Megalomania here as having reached that plateau,
just on the strength of who I considered him to
be. I said that in that PM. Live and you learn I
guess.

I've come to realize that it's better avoid giving
potential duds the benefit of the doubt and then
delete them when it turns out participation is of
low priority to them vis a vis taking. Better to
prevent than to cure. If someone doesn't have a
track record or certain talents, I will politely
pass and suggest other venues. I'm looking more
towards academia for dedicated membership.

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Here let me help you by hopping in my modman acct
and stickying it for a while
for you to further
expose your nether regions.


I could've blown this thread away or effectively
silenced/banned you by simply deleting all your
posts
were I even 1/1000th as warped and immature
as you.


It's precisely these antics that put me off about
this narcissistic character. He's abusing his mod
status and private PM information for outward
displays and to prove points that do not serve
this forum, but only his own childish gains. Who
does this guy think he is?

[Confused]

This is not why he was given the admin keys--to
thump his chest, make idle threats and mock charge
like some gorilla. Either do as you say/what you
secretly want to do or stfu.

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I was a member of the FB group at the time and I remember the discussion. Just to let anyone not privy to the conversation know that it wasn't acrimonious, simply a disagreement over that particular image. From memory, I think I said I thought the image 'cheesey', as in contrived, so was glad when it was replaced with an image that I think Al-Takruri suggested.

@Truthcentric
Could you confirm whether it was you or Al-Takruri who removed the image from the FB site?

From what I remember, you deleted it, something born out by the FB quotes in this thread. But could you clarify?

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If that is the case. I agree the picture is "cheesy". And who would seriously put a picture like that up as an AE logo/banner. It is laughable and no one would take the group seriously.

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To be honest, I was more interested in the content rather than aesthetics, but again, I was happy when the picture was replaced. I think truthcentric was/is the only person there with artistic inclination so people seemed generally OK that he took the lead on that front - it was recommended that there should be a change and after discussion, it happened.

And as was said earlier in this thread it was decided among us that there would be consultation and discussion before any other changes were made.

Did I use the word 'cheesy' and/or 'saccharine' when I commented on it on FB? Doesn't matter, but you know what I mean.

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quote:
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@Truthcentric
Could you confirm whether it was you or Al-Takruri who removed the image from the FB site?

From what I remember, you deleted it, something born out by the FB quotes in this thread. But could you clarify?

I thought it was me who took it down.
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quote:
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I was a member of the FB group at the time and I...., I think I said I thought the image 'cheesey', as in contrived,


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@truthcentric


quote:
I thought it was me who took it down.
OK, thanks for clarifying.
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@Gotcha Truthcentric

@Xyyman why would no one take the group seriously
because of it? You'd have to explain that one to me.

I would be conflicted with it being an image of a
celeb more than anything. Unless the image would
depict AE in general like that, the reasons stated
for why it would be inappropriate are baseless. Ashait
and certain other Nubian queens testify to the
historicity of such a portrayal (i.e. a specifically
Sudanese phenotype in royal gear). And it wasn't
a logo, it was a FB cover photo. Big difference.
The former is immutable, images uploaded to the
latter aren't.

And let's also not forget that Egypt isn't the
only Nile Valley kingdom with pharaonic royal
regalia, shall we? From memory, at the time the
issue was raised, I don't think there was a
reason to assume it should specifically refer to
AE to begin with.

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quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:
@Gotcha Truthcentric

@Xyyman why would no one take the group seriously
because of it? You'd have to explain that one to me.

I would be conflicted with it being an image of a
celeb more than anything. Unless the image would
depict AE in general like that, the reasons stated
for why it would be inappropriate are baseless. Ashait
and certain other Nubian queens testify to the
historicity of such a portrayal (i.e. a specifically
Sudanese phenotype in royal gear). And it wasn't
a logo, it was a FB cover photo. Big difference.
The former is immutable, images uploaded to the
latter aren't.

And let's also not forget that Egypt isn't the
only Nile Valley kingdom with pharaonic royal
regalia, shall we? From memory, at the time the
issue was raised, I don't think there was a
reason to assume it should specifically refer to
AE to begin with.

Actually the thought process that went through my head when I created that photo-manipulation did go something along the lines of "what would an ancient Egyptian queen look like if portrayed by a modern actress in a movie?" Hence the choice of Lupita Nyong'o. Well, that and I think she's pretty.

Sure, using a Northeast African actress instead of a Kenyan Luo might have made for a more historically accurate picture. But then how many A-list actors of specifically Northeast African descent are out there? Most of the prominent black actors I can name off the top of my head are either West/Central African or Diasporan offshoots thereof. If anything, Lupita is closer to the modal AE mark because she's East African for a change.

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And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there? Why are veterans at each others throats all of a sudden, if that is truly the case??
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To Tukuler, I find your complaints rather ironic. I remember years back when Ausar said he needed help moderating this forum someone suggested me. And even though I never wanted the job I noted how immediately after someone suggested me you went up in arms with a "HELL NO! I will leave for good" or that effect as if I were somehow your enemy and me being moderator somehow spells trouble for you! [Roll Eyes]

Comes to show you can't please anyone let alone everyone. Again, I still don't want the job of moderator or any authoritative role yet I would imagine I would be the least impartial and follow a strict code of no obscene attacks and baseless trolling while allowing everything else let alone personal opinions.

For the life of me I don't know what you fear from me, but hey you get what you have available.

Frankly I myself have been rather busy with work and life to contribute as much as I want but I will try.

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive
about joining the Facebook Group. What the
heck is going on there?

I've never had a conflict with him over there,
no one did. I've only had conflicts with him
here, and I never let that spill over to other
places. I wasn't on speaking terms with him
during the incident with the cover photo and
as you can see from his own underhanded
admissions, I didn't rule against him or pick
any sides.

Hence, why, despite his best efforts, his emotional
tattle rant says more about his integrity and
emotional instability than any of his intended
targets. I'm still waiting on him to "expose"
where I wronged him on the FB group, to justify
his disgruntled Superhead tantrum.

Xyyman didn't surpise me when he allowed Tukuler
to pull the wool over his eyes, but I'm surprised
that you would buy into this manipulative victim
role of his and his lying suggestions of unfair
treatment and whatever he wants his gullible
audience to believe. Thought you knew me better
than that.

quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
And even though I never wanted the
job I noted how immediately after someone
suggested me you went up in arms with a
"HELL NO! I will leave for good" or that effect

Wow.
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Come on young man. That is a stretch. But you both make valuable contribution and I am not choosing sides. You boys should “kissy kissy” and make up…..until the next fight. Only white people carry grudges.

QUOTE:

Xyyman didn't surpise me when he allowed Tukuler to pull the wool over his eyes,

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there? Why are veterans at each others throats all of a sudden, if that is truly the case??

I dont understand why you and other members were so apprehensive about joining the group. It was specifically stated....repeatedly...... that it was not an alternative to ES or ESR.

Yall folks act is if once you joined you would be held hostage and stopped from leaving. [Confused] Or lose access to the internet or something. I don't get it.

There is no conspiracy going on in the FB group. [Roll Eyes] The only difference is that we are focused on research and commentary of papers rarely discussed on the web and are somewhat exclusive. Tracking down odd papers. Tracking down african ancient DNA studies. Posting images and text from purchased books. Stuff like that that is what we do...not relishing ad infinitum over DNA tribes data from years ago........or posting context-less collages with 15 year old data or walls of text that nobody will even read.

I dont know what people are doing here...but the data is out there, good stuff....you just have to actively search for it or have the need for new information. I don't see that here any longer.

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quote:
Originally posted by beyoku:
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
And this is why I am somewhat apprehensive about joining the Facebook Group. What the heck is going on there? Why are veterans at each others throats all of a sudden, if that is truly the case??

I dont understand why you and other members were so apprehensive about joining the group. It was specifically stated....repeatedly...... that it was not an alternative to ES or ESR.

Yall folks act is if once you joined you would be held hostage and stopped from leaving. [Confused] Or lose access to the internet or something. I don't get it.

There is no conspiracy going on in the FB group. [Roll Eyes] The only difference is that we are focused on research and commentary of papers rarely discussed on the web and are somewhat exclusive. Tracking down odd papers. Tracking down african ancient DNA studies. Posting images and text from purchased books. Stuff like that that is what we do...not relishing ad infinitum over DNA tribes data from years ago........or posting context-less collages with 15 year old data or walls of text that nobody will even read.

I dont know what people are doing here...but the data is out there, good stuff....you just have to actively search for it or have the need for new information. I don't see that here any longer.

As a member of the FB group I can co-sign this. There is no conspiracy. Theres hardly any off-topic stuff and no one even tries to act like an authority. We mostly discuss various studies posted. Thats it.
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^ I guess it really doesn't matter since I can leave the group at any time, but I'll just take your word and I check it out anyway.
quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:

Xyyman didn't surpise me when he allowed Tukuler
to pull the wool over his eyes, but I'm surprised
that you would buy into this manipulative victim
role of his and his lying suggestions of unfair
treatment and whatever he wants his gullible
audience to believe. Thought you knew me better
than that.

I never bought into the notion that Tukuler was somehow a 'victim' but it's obvious he has some issue with you. I'm just curious as to why.

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
And even though I never wanted the
job I noted how immediately after someone
suggested me you went up in arms with a
"HELL NO! I will leave for good" or that effect

Wow.
Yeah. I've always respected Tukuler as any other vet in this forum and while I personally never had a problem with him I do wonder what his issue was/is with me. But oh well.
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slow DJ. You missed his point or is it selective memory?

He does not like the idea of non-African/non-Black being in charge of Africana....which is hypocritical since this site is owned by white and/or a Turk.

ESR/TNV is fully run by Blacks and ESR well run and maintained.

BUt...you know the line. "If it is white it is right"

Not saying ES does not have it's benefits. White racist are less "fearful" of entering ES. They prefer to lurk on ESR.

And that is the difference between ESR and ES. Both have their plus(s) ESR is more civil and a great resource for spreading knowledge. ES is the battle ground.

ES works well. The only turn off was the large pictures posted by that nutty guy who had a beef with TP and the occasional annoying racist who spouts racist epiphets without being able to substantiate his claims. I am not talking about Cass. Cass can at least "bring it".

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
I never bought into the notion that Tukuler was
somehow a 'victim' but it's obvious he has some
issue with you. I'm just curious as to why.

Again, legitimizing his manipulations by presuming
that he's had a reason to have an issue to begin
with and by exclaiming "What the heck is going on
there?"

As the PM in the OP states, he's had it good enough
there to enjoy a privileged position (which wasn't
based on any efforts on his part), and that said
privilege was then revoked for a specific reason,
while offering him a drama-free way out as far as
the public eye is concerned.

He then CHOSE to manipulate it and turn it into
a spectacular narrative where he was somehow
victimized and you and Xyyman ate it right up
like a bunch of gullible chickens without heads.
How knee-deep can you be in his manipulations
without realizing it? That's okay though. As with
Xyyman, no love lost.

[Wink]

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^ Well whatever.
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

slow DJ. You missed his point or is it selective memory?

He does not like the idea of non-African/non-Black being in charge of Africana....which is hypocritical since this site is owned by white and/or a Turk.

I've always suspected this to be the case, but since when does being a moderator all of a sudden mean 'being in charge of Africana'??! Last time I checked, being moderator does NOT mean deciding what topics are to be discussed and by whom. Even Ausar allows the discussion of African civilizations other than Egypt and such goes on all the time here. All of this besides the obvious racial/cultural bias on his part since on other forums non-Asians including blacks discuss Asian history and culture all the time.

But forget it. In the end it doesn't really matter.

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