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Rare mitochondrial lineages with relict distributions can sometimes be disproportionately informative about deep events in human prehistory. We have studied one such lineage, haplogroup R0a, which uniquely is most frequent in Arabia and the Horn of Africa, but is distributed much more widely, from Europe to India. We conclude that: (1) the lineage ancestral to R0a is more ancient than previously thought, with a relict distribution across the Mediterranean/Southwest Asia; (2) R0a has a much deeper presence in Arabia than previously thought, highlighting the role of at least one Pleistocene glacial refugium, perhaps on the Red Sea plains; (3) the main episode of dispersal into Eastern Africa, at least concerning maternal lineages, was at the end of the Late Glacial, due to major expansions from one or more refugia in Arabia; (4) there was likely a minor Late Glacial/early postglacial dispersal from Arabia through the Levant and into Europe, possibly alongside other lineages from a Levantine refugium;
and (5) the presence of R0a in Southwest Arabia in the Holocene at the nexus of a trading network that developed after ~3 ka between Africa and the Indian Ocean led to some gene ow even further a eld, into Iran, Pakistan and India.

Low-frequency mitochondrial (and Y-chromosome) lineages with a relict distribution can be disproportionately informative about deep events in human prehistory. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroups N1a1a and X, which have both been recovered from prehistoric remains as well as from living people, are good examples1–3. Another such lineage, with a very di erent distribution, is mtDNA haplogroup R0a, although to date it has never been recovered from prehistoric remains so we are entirely reliant on the modern diversity to draw conclusions about its history.


R0a is unique in reaching very high frequencies in the Arabian Peninsula, and is also common on the far side of the Bab el-Mandeb strait (or “Gate of Tears”), in the Horn of Africa, along with several other haplogroups of Eurasian origin.


More generally, the Horn of Africa is exceptional in harbouring very high mtDNA haplogroup diversity4, and populations in the Horn have signi cant non-autochthonous African ancestry across the genome5–10.


Recent studies of complete human genomes have concluded that this 30–50% of non-African legacy in Cushitic- and Semitic-speaking populations is the result of admixture from Arabia beginning ~3,000 years ago (3 ka)11,12, at a time when common cultural features developed across the Horn and southern Arabia13, suggesting a link with the origin of the Ethiosemitic languages14. However, others have argued that such autosomal dating needs to be treated with considerable caution10,15. Moreover, some have also proposed that the source for the Horn lineages was in the Levant rather than Arabia10,11, whilst others have provided further evidence in favour of Arabia15.



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This was discussed already but as a reminder...

Using FREQUENCY to infer origin is out dated. Aside from autosomal TreeMix analysis haplogroup haplotypic diversity is a good indicator. This was not done so this paper is not about serious analysis but attention grabbing whorism by the authors.


Eg From the canary Island paper...
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phylogenetic analysis of H lineages bearing the 16 260 mutation (Fregel et al., 2009a), it was observed that, ****outside the Canary
Islands***, H1-16260 lineage was ****only**** present in a sample from ****Algeria***, reinforcing the idea of the North African origin of the
aboriginal people of the Canary Islands.
To correctly interpret the Punta Azul Cave mtDNA, it is important to know if the fixation of

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^In the above the researchers are doing in-depth analysis of the haplotypes to draw their conlusions. Instead of using frequency to make a point.

That is like saying since China has the most people on the earth then all humans came from China...lol!

That game is not played any more! lol!

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Originally posted by xyyman:
This was discussed already but as a reminder...


Okay, it skipped me.

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep25472.pdf

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xyyman: "That is like saying since China has the most people on the earth then all humans came from China...lol!

That game is not played any more! lol! "
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Africa has highest diversity. That indicates a past large population, right? China has present large population. What's the difference? Lotta people today vs lotta people yesterday...neither says where they came from long before (eg. Homo erectus...) when populations were tiny.

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No! large diversity indicates longer existence. Get that through your head. Larger population means exactly that more fugking and more babies. It is that simple.

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xyyman: "That is like saying since China has the most people on the earth then all humans came from China...lol!

That game is not played any more! lol! "
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Africa has highest diversity. That indicates a past large population, right? China has present large population. What's the difference? Lotta people today vs lotta people yesterday...neither says where they came from long before (eg. Homo erectus...) when populations were tiny.


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This is interesting paper. They are trying to remove e1b1b1-M35 out of Africa.......again! Lol!

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quote:
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
xyyman: "That is like saying since China has the most people on the earth then all humans came from China...lol!

That game is not played any more! lol! "
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Africa has highest diversity. That indicates a past large population, right? China has present large population. What's the difference? Lotta people today vs lotta people yesterday...neither says where they came from long before (eg. Homo erectus...) when populations were tiny.

Small pockets of people migrated.


Brenna Henn on panmixia.

CARTA: Ancient DNA and Human Evolution – Brenna Henn: The Origins of Modern Humans in Africa

Brenna Henn (Stony Brook Univ) explores patterns of genetic diversity across Africa and models for modern human origins in this talk. She discusses whether genetic data is concordant with archaeological data and suggests directions for future research. Series: "CARTA - Center for Academic Research and Training in Anthropogeny" [Science] [Show ID: 30979]


https://youtu.be/mWwmVXZOFbU

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Yet still they are not calling the first human lineages in Arabia, Europe or Asia African Lineages......


According the number of papers talking about "reverse" migration into Africa you get the idea that human diversity in Africa is somehow due to Eurasian migrations.......

Yet hardly any papers on the multiple African migrations into Europe and Asia since 60,000 years ago.

Note also these folks still have the model of monkeys evolving directly to white Europeans even though that is a completely false concept.

Not to mention they are still pushing this rehashed multi regional hypothesis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_Avl9nAYU

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^ Agreed.
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^^ Cosign. The problem as usual is they fail to explain how these ancestral clades are non-African in the first place. We know Arabia was the launch pad or source for OOA, but again how different were these early or first Arabians from their African brethren right next door?

And just to give a clearer picture here is a clade tree showing the mitochondrial clades with hg R emboldened

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There is a general consensus among experts that the OOA macroclade L3 is African in origin whereas its two daughter clades M & N are 'Eurasian' that is they arose in Eurasia. But if they arose in Arabia right next to Africa, just how "Eurasian" could they be??

What's worse is that Swenet cited a recent study on Saudi Arabian genomes here where they find L3's presence in Arabia to be older than they previously thought but now they're questioning if L3 is African!

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Originally posted by Ish Gebor:

Rare mitochondrial lineages with relict distributions can sometimes be disproportionately informative about deep events in human prehistory. We have studied one such lineage, haplogroup R0a, which uniquely is most frequent in Arabia and the Horn of Africa, but is distributed much more widely, from Europe to India. We conclude that: (1) the lineage ancestral to R0a is more ancient than previously thought, with a relict distribution across the Mediterranean/Southwest Asia; (2) R0a has a much deeper presence in Arabia than previously thought, highlighting the role of at least one Pleistocene glacial refugium, perhaps on the Red Sea plains; (3) the main episode of dispersal into Eastern Africa, at least concerning maternal lineages, was at the end of the Late Glacial, due to major expansions from one or more refugia in Arabia; (4) there was likely a minor Late Glacial/early postglacial dispersal from Arabia through the Levant and into Europe, possibly alongside other lineages from a Levantine refugium;...

According to a Rose & Petraglia et ales. study there were three refugia in Arabia during the LGM as shown below.

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No doubt genetic bottlenecks formed in these three refugia with limited if any geneflow until humid conditions led to population expansions from these three centers. However, note the coastlines during the LGM that are now submerged in a better picture below.

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Note the Bab-el-Mandeb straits during the LGM were much narrower than they are today with one section being as narrow as a river! Note also according to the study that Ish Gebor cited, there was also a refugium in the African side parallel to that on the Arabian side, and with only essentially a river separating them there was bound to be geneflow between the two.

This is why I am always skeptical about what these experts consider African vs. 'Eurasian' with these early OOA clades and why I refer back to Keita et al. (2008) from In Hot Pursuit of Language in Prehistory:
The issue of how much Paleolithic migration from the Near East there may have been is intriguing, and the mitochondrial DNA variation may need to be reassessed as to what can be considered to be only of "Eurasian origin" because if hunters and gatherers roamed between the Saharan and supra-Saharan regions and Eurasia it might be difficult to determine exactly "where" a mutation arose


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and (5) the presence of R0a in Southwest Arabia in the Holocene at the nexus of a trading network that developed after ~3 ka between Africa and the Indian Ocean led to some gene ow even further a eld, into Iran, Pakistan and India.
It's funny they should mention this considering skeletal evidence such as the Chanhu-Daro Cranium. I don't know if you guys discussed this topic while I was absent.

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Low-frequency mitochondrial (and Y-chromosome) lineages with a relict distribution can be disproportionately informative about deep events in human prehistory. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroups N1a1a and X, which have both been recovered from prehistoric remains as well as from living people, are good examples1–3. Another such lineage, with a very divergent distribution, is mtDNA haplogroup R0a, although to date it has never been recovered from prehistoric remains so we are entirely reliant on the modern diversity to draw conclusions about its history.

R0a is unique in reaching very high frequencies in the Arabian Peninsula, and is also common on the far side of the Bab el-Mandeb strait (or “Gate of Tears”), in the Horn of Africa, along with several other haplogroups of Eurasian origin.

More generally, the Horn of Africa is exceptional in harbouring very high mtDNA haplogroup diversity4, and populations in the Horn have signi cant non-autochthonous African ancestry across the genome5–10.

Yes, it's not only hg R0 but even ancestral hg R* that's found in both sides of the Red Sea though the highest frequency is among natives of Soqotra Island. Even hg N, specifically N1 also occurs in east Africa as well as Arabia, though hg M1 has its highest frequency in the African Horn region. By the way, recall this 2005 study 'Early farmers of Europe not related to modern Euros' showing the common maternal clade among them was hg N1a.

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Recent studies of complete human genomes have concluded that this 30–50% of non-African legacy in Cushitic- and Semitic-speaking populations is the result of admixture from Arabia beginning ~3,000 years ago (3 ka)11,12, at a time when common cultural features developed across the Horn and southern Arabia13, suggesting a link with the origin of the Ethiosemitic languages14. However, others have argued that such autosomal dating needs to be treated with considerable caution10,15. Moreover, some have also proposed that the source for the Horn lineages was in the Levant rather than Arabia10,11, whilst others have provided further evidence in favour of Arabia15.
Again, nobody is denying Eurasian geneflow into Africa 3,000 years ago but funny how they never talk about African geneflow into Eurasia during the same time or earlier!
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