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Stumbled across this today and didnt see it on Egyptsearch when I searched. Guess it got lost in the war against Afroloons.
quote: Chemical peeling in ethnic/dark skin.
Roberts WE1. Author information Abstract Chemical peeling for skin of color arose in ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, and other ancient cultures in and around Africa. Our current fund of medical knowledge regarding chemical peeling is a result of centuries of experience and research. The list of agents for chemical peeling is extensive. In ethnic skin, our efforts are focused on superficial and medium-depth peeling agents and techniques. Indications for chemical peeling in darker skin include acne vulgaris, postinflammatory hyperpigmentation, melasma, scarring, photodamage, and pseudofolliculitis barbae. Careful selection of patients for chemical peeling should involve not only identification of Fitzpatrick skin type, but also determining ethnicity. Different ethnicities may respond unpredictably to chemical peeling regardless of skin phenotype. Familiarity with the properties each peeling agent used is critical. New techniques discussed for chemical peeling include spot peeling for postinflammatory hyperpigmentation and combination peels for acne and photodamage. Single- or combination-agent chemical peels are shown to be efficacious and safe. In conclusion, chemical peeling is a treatment of choice for numerous pigmentary and scarring disorders arising in dark skin tones. Familiarity with new peeling agents and techniques will lead to successful outcomes.
So in Cass' deluded world the AE were light brown (skin type III) people, yet somehow these researchers found adverse skin reactions seen most commonly in people with skin types 5 and 6 among the AE. Guess they're also in on the afroloon conspiracy Posts: 574 | From: Guinee | Registered: Jul 2014
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To play devil's advocate, the paper abstract you quoted doesn't necessarily say AE had all those skin conditions (though they probably did). It simply says they along with various cultures in Africa and the Middle East had methods of chemical peeling for their skin. At least that's what I got from it.
quote:Originally posted by Punos_Rey: In rebuttal to your Cass' advocate, do tell me what you call these blemishes on Ramses V's mummified corpse?
Like I said, they probably did have skin conditions more typical of dark-skinned peoples. I'm simply not sure the abstract you quoted says anything about what conditions the AE had. All it really says is that they had chemical peeling techniques.
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In this article, where the researchers make the claim AE bleached their skin. The mummified head exhibited possible exogenous ochronosis, a reaction to compounds found in skin bleaching creams and another possible adverse reaction of dark skin to skin treatments Rebuttal?
I'll give you the abstract not conclusively stating the AE had these conditions.
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^ Obviously I don't think the AE would have wanted to bleach their skin. But I think any skin tone could develop exogenous ochronosis when exposed to certain skin treatments.
And no direct claim of the AE having these conditions was made, yet as far as the conditions..
This book mentions acne and acne scars as one of the most frequent dermatological issues in ethnic(i.e. dark) patients it also mentions some of the other issues such as melasma, hyperpigmentation
And it would seem several pharaohs suffered from acne and acne induced scars and attempted to treat it with variable results including the use of peels and essential oils
Pseudofolliculitis Barbae (i.e. razor bumps) are notorious in Afam men and still occur in Modern Egypt per this study on potential treatments (but of course this could easily be chalked up to Egyptian men having curly hair as do some Middle Eastern men)
As far as Melasma/hyperpigmentation, I haven't been able to find studies pointing a direct reference to Ancient Egyptian texts mentioning either one, yet the opposite, sun induced depigmentation (sometimes confused with vitiligo and occuring from the same mechanisms as melasma) is mentioned:
As far as exogenous ochronosis, while it does occur in all populations like you said, this study mentions it does occur most often in people with dark skin, thise who use these agents at a high frequency or those who have a long period of use.
So if nothing else I have been able to find mentions of most of these adverse skin conditions in AE, with the exception of pseudofolliculitis barbae (which if it occurs even in modern Egyptian men I'd bet my life it occured in AE men) and melasma/hyperpigmentation.
But you are right. The article doesn't make the explicit connection I claimed for it so I'll take an L there. And as far as Ramses V the bumps may also be smallpox according to some of the stuff I found as they also occur on his chest. So I'll drop him from the subject. Sooner or late I'm going to bury Cass, just need to be more careful with my arguments.
Edit: I found this mention of a "tumor in the hair" from this book Ancient Egyptian medicine. Frim the description of it as exuding a pus like substance and containing hair it sure sounds like an ingrown hair to me:
While I couldnt find a ae text mentioning melasma or hyperpigmentation, both are problem issues today in *modern* Egyptians(who are said to be mostly skin types IV and V in direct contradiction of Cass who stated Egyptians are the same skin color as Southern Europeans. If *modern* Egyptians are mostly medium to natural brown, what fool would believe the AE were light brown/skin type II) I'd bet my life this was even more the case in AE especally among the professions that would've spent the most time outside(laborers, soldiers, farmers, etc)
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