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Pigafetta mentions the presence of a negroid people in the southern part of the Americas before the arrival of the Spanish or Portuguese

"they are olive coloured, well made, their hair short and woolly" A Chronological History of the Discoveries in the South Sea Or Pacific Ocean ...
By James Burney pg 21

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Selk’nam tribe, photo Martín Gusinde,1919

The Selk'nam, also known as the Onawo or Ona people, are an indigenous people in the Patagonian region of southern Argentina and Chile, including the Tierra del Fuego islands. They were one of the last native groups in South America to be encountered by migrant ethnic Europeans or Westerners in the late 19th century.

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Yaghan people, 1883

The Yaghan, also called Yagán, Yahgan, Yámana, Yamana, or Tequenica, are one of the indigenous peoples of the Southern Cone, who are regarded as the southernmost peoples in the world. Their traditional territory includes the islands south of Isla Grande de Tierra del Fuego, extending their presence into Cape Horn. They have been there for more than 10,000 years.

Books such as Ebenezer Sibly's Universal System of Natural History in 1794 may include some illustrations depicting indigenous people based on first hand observation and artists making the art on location
but may also contain many illustrations that are based on hearsay , second or third hand accounts or as imagined by artists who were never at the location

Looking at the photo here the people look more Asian than African , DNA solves the problem

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https://www.jstor.org/stable/41465527

Mitochondrial DNA Haplogroups in Four Tribes from Tierra del Fuego—Patagonia: Inferences about the Peopling of the Americas


Abstract

The four major founder haplogroups in native Americans were analyzed, including new data from four extinct tribes from Tierra del Fuego—Patagonia, to look into the relationship between genes and geography. A multiple regression analysis was performed using the haplogroups as independent variables and latitude as the dependent variable. The results show that haplogroups A, C, and D are significantly distributed along a north-south geographic cline. The distribution of haplogroup B, which is absent in northern North America and in extreme southern South America, could be related to other nongeographic variables, such as independent mutations in region V or an intermediate migration. The absence of haplogroup B in Tierra del Fuego-Patagonia also supports the existence of at least two different migration waves in the Amerind group, the first lacking haplogroup B. The Central American Amerind and North American Amerind samples are the populations that least fit the theoretical model. This difference can be related to the geographic characteristics of Central America and the existence of a sharp genetic boundary between the northern Na-Dene and the northern Amerind, respectively. In addition, a neighbor-joining tree was generated from the haplogroup data using the FST distance. The genetic tree shows that the populations are roughly distributed according to their geographic location. Therefore the genetic pattern observed is compatible with different successive migrations along the continent. The north to south direction of the migratory movements can be inferred from the mtDNA diversity data.

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Haplogroup A is believed to have arisen in Asia some 30,000–50,000 years before present. Its ancestral haplogroup was Haplogroup N.

Its highest frequencies are among Indigenous peoples of the Americas, its largest overall population is in East Asia, and its greatest variety (which suggests its origin point) is in East Asia. Thus, it might have originated in and spread from the Far East.

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1883 -1919?

we are talking about original fuegians

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