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Originally posted by xyyman:
Here is where the rubber hits the road. Remember mtDNA H has a Paleolithic presence in Africa . Kefi et al.

The author is not putting his reputation on the line claiming mtDNA H has European origin. Now, answer me this. If 60% of the mtDNA in Europe is NOT European in origin what does that make 60% of modern Europeans. He! He! He! Twisted people!


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" Haplogroup H
The most common haplogroup seen in our ancient Lebanese and Sardinian samples was the
superhaplogroup H, identified in 7 of 14 samples (50%). Two of the four ancient Lebanese
samples belong to haplogroup H (sub-groups H and H34) and a third belongs to the sister

No H3 lineages were found in our ancient or modern Lebanese samples. Its presence in Sardinia in ancient samples (both pre-Phoenician
and Phoenician), combined with the diversity seen in the modern Sardinian population is consistent with at least a Neolithic introduction to the island if not pre-Neolithic [15]. Haplogroup
HV is also an ancient European lineage, likely originating in the Mediterranean region during the LGM and has been identified in early Neolithic remains from Spain [44]. However, to date,
most studies on haplogroup H and its subgroups reveal a very complex tree structure and more mitogenome data is needed before any conclusion can be made with certainty about the
origin and date of the H subgroups"
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So what can we conclude? Another lie told be Europeans exposed. There never was a Phoenician civilization. They did not want to admit these were Africans building cities in Africa, Islands off Africa and Southern Europe. Everywhere else but Africa even distant Lebanon. But NOT Africa SMH.


BTW for clarity. The genetic data shows the ancient population of Lebanon/Phoenicia are NOT related to ancient Sardinia population who they claim are Phoenicians.


It looks like they essentially destroyed all the ancient Lebanese samples except what they can use ie spin their BS. And that was not good enough. Man such unconscionable people.....some of them

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In addition to Hg H.

”Northwards from Egypt and Libya, E-M78 migrated into the Middle East, but additionally Trombetta et al. (2011) proposed that the earlier E-V68 carrying population may have migrated by sea directly from Africa to southwestern Europe, because they observed cases of E-V68* (without the M78 mutation) only in Sardinia, and not in the Middle Eastern samples. Concerning E-M78, like other forms of E-V68 there is evidence of multiple routes of expansion out of an African homeland”


So, now we have a better understanding about those Sardinian samples, E1b1. E1b1b1a

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Within E-M35, there are striking parallels between two haplogroups, E-V68 and E-V257. Both contain a lineage which has been frequently observed in Africa (E-M78 and E-M81, respectively) [6], [8], [10], [13]–[16] and a group of undifferentiated chromosomes that are mostly found in southern Europe (Table S2). An expansion of E-M35 carriers, possibly from the Middle East as proposed by other Authors [14], and split into two branches separated by the geographic barrier of the Mediterranean Sea, would explain this geographic pattern. However, the absence of E-V68* and E-V257* in the Middle East (Table S2) makes a maritime spread between northern Africa and southern Europe a more plausible hypothesis. A detailed analysis of the Y chromosomal microsatellite variation associated with E-V68 and E-V257 could help in gaining a better understanding of the likely timing and place of origin of these two haplogroups.

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