quote:Originally posted by element: [QB] This comment deserves a separate thread.
Do you accept that there is an indigenous population to Britain?
The fact is, there is. Genetics, history and so forth has proven that there is a native population here.
If you are black, asian, eastern european etc you cannot be British - you are an immigrant.
If an Irish or Chinese person moves and lives in Australia - do they become an Australian Aborigine?
Of course not.
Its exactly the same for Britain. There is a native population here - the British. Immigrants cannot be British, they merely aquire a passport with 'Britain' on it. This does not make them British, they have no ancestral connection to Britain and do not descend from the indigenous Britons.
I hear this narrative all the time & i empathise with many .But i also know my history & your present day comments apply to everyone.
your comments only have psychological weight or value because ( i presume ) your part of or identify with the ruling hegemony. But the manifesto disintegrates when scrutinised.
Accept a yes for now to all the above.
so by your definition i'm an immigrant & not British.But i have more to offer than many who use their Englishness as a pyschological crutch
your move.
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Two weeks before the election this year, Sandy Walkington, a Liberal Democrat candidate for St Albans said, "We're all mongrels. I mean, this country is the most mongrel country in the world. In 200 years we'll all be coffee-coloured — and I've got no problem with that.”
It is outrageous and deeply offensive that politicians, the media and left-wing celebrities have promoted the lie that we are somehow all basically from mixed breeding stock in order to legitimise the invasion by hordes of foreigners.
Eddie Izzard said in his TV series Mongrel Britain, “our country has been massively diverse for most of its history — a blend of Angles, Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Celts.”
But the history of the British people shows that we have been here for thousands of years and that past invasions have contributed no more than five percent to our population.
Izzard speaks with excitement about “rich diversity” and “a dynamic and vibrant mix of foreign genes.”
Yet there is nothing vibrant or dynamic about losing your job to cheap Eastern European workers or finding that you can’t spot a white face in your high street.
The diversity he speaks of isn’t rich. The UK is poorer as a result of free handouts for immigrants and gifts to third world countries.
Our cultural heritage has been savaged as we are forced to accept barbaric religions and the criminal scamming culture that we always knew was present in poor countries.
How dare they smile condescendingly while they attempt to change history and teach us that we owe everything, as Izzard claims, to “waves of invasion, centuries of immigration and floods of foreign ideas.”
The numbers of invaders were in fact few — mostly only in the tens of thousands and, crucially, all of the invaders' origins were limited to northern Europe.
This is supported fully by up-to-date genetic evidence in the book Four Flags: The Indigenous People of Great Britain by Arthur Kemp
Kemp presents genetic evidence proving that the vast majority of British people have ancestors going back 12,000 years when haplogroups R1b, I and R1a spread northwards. British people with the R1b1 DNA haplotypes have on average a 74 percent homogeneity, with the remainder coming from countries just across the sea.
Historical records offer proof as well:
The Romans invaded in AD 43 with an army of 40–45,000 men but only 16,000 legionaries were stationed here afterwards.
Estimates for the population at that time are around 1.5 million; therefore, the effect of this invasion was one to two percent (Eagles Over Britannia: The Roman Army in Britain by Guy de la Bedoyere).
“In the sixth century the Anglo-Saxon element in the population of Britain amounted to no more than fifty to a hundred thousand” (Arthur's Britain: History and Archaeology AD 367–634 by Leslie Alcock).
Therefore, the Anglo-Saxon contribution would be somewhere between three and six percent.
DNA evidence shows that the R1a Haplogroup for Anglo-Saxons in England is 4.5 percent, a remarkable correlation (Kemp, ibid).
Between 789–1104 AD, the Vikings were known for their ferocious attacks on villages but only small numbers actually settled. War bands were tiny: “from seven to thirty-five a band and above three dozen an army” (Anglo-Saxon England by Lloyd and Jennifer Laing).
After the Norman Conquest, William, Duke of Normandy, dismissed his mercenaries and nearly all returned to France.
“The probability is that the Continental settlement did not involve more than 10,000 people — and perhaps as few as 5,000” (Offshore Islanders: From Roman Occupation to European Entry by Paul Johnson). “England simply acquired a new ruling class,” writes Johnson.
The Flemish and Walloons came from what is now Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxemburg and parts of northern France and Germany. About 16,000 were recorded in 1440, which was less than one percent.
The population at the time was estimated between two and 2.5 million, and had diminished as a result of the Black Death (Roots of the Future: An Education Pack for Exploring Ethnic Diversity in Britain by Peter White).
The Jews also settled at various periods in history but did not approve of marriage to Gentiles. In 1290, the community of around 5,000 was expelled by Edward I.
They returned slowly and by 1815, there were around 20–30,000. Around 55,000 Jews arrived between 1933 and 1939. Britain’s population was at 40 million in 1940, and therefore the Jewish contribution was at best 0.3 percent.
Throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, there was a small trickle of people from all over Europe. In England and Wales, the 1871 census recorded 32,823 Germans, an Italian population of 5,063, again not significant amounts compared to the population of 20 million.
The Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) estimates 50,000 Huguenot and 80,000 French Protestants arrived between 1680 and 1720. About 40,000 of these left for America.
However, around 1685, the population of Britain was four to 4.5 million, meaning that the contribution was still only about two percent (White, ibid; and Alien Immigrants to England by W Cunningham).
Between 1600 and 1800, people didn’t welcome foreigners with open arms and intermarriage of any sort was infrequent. Even when William of Orange came to England to unseat the unpopular James II, he was accompanied only by approximately 11,000 foot and 4,000 horse soldiers. The effect of his invasion was once again small.
The marriages between kings and queens of Europe and their relative squabbles did not have much of a bearing on the poor, often starving, ordinary people who mostly stayed where they were for thousands of years.
Possibly one of the best examples is Cheddar Gorge Man who is an example of how people have stayed where they were for thousands of years.
The remains of Cheddar Man were excavated in 1903 and have been dated at around 7,150 BC.
In 1996, his DNA was profiled and a sample from 20 residents of a nearby village was taken. It produced two exact matches and one match with a single mutation. The close match was a history teacher named Adrian Targett.
What this means is incredible — these people are direct descendants of Cheddar Man and still live in the same area, nearly 10,000 years later.
The historical and genetic evidence support the fact that there is indeed a native people of Britain who have a right to this land. We have as much right as the American Indians, Aborigines or Maoris.
There were invasions and a small amount of migration but, as has been already stated, these were from people just across the channel.
So why do they wish to convince us that we are all mixed race?
The agenda of previous Labour and Conservative governments have only ever been concerned about re-election at any cost.
They know that importing cheap workers will provide short-term prosperity and thus they will secure re-election.
By offering free handouts to immigrants they know that when the time comes they can count on the ethnic vote.
The proof is here. They have betrayed their own people.
The erasure of the native British people today has already begun and it is legitimised by whitewashing over our truthful British history with lies. Don’t stand for it.
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In My opinion people of European Ancestry esp. of the British Isles are in no position to complain about Immigration. European Immigrated enmasse and effectivly destroyed native cultures where they went.
quote:The historical and genetic evidence support the fact that there is indeed a native people of Britain who have a right to this land. We have as much right as the American Indians, Aborigines or Maoris.
The Native Americans, Aborigines, and Maoris have become second class citizens in their own lands, so to envoke them is the epitomy of a Hypocrite. When one thinks of an Austarlaian they envision a White, when One thinks of an American they envision a White, when one thinks of a New Zealander they envision whites.
There are no Aztec Indians or Tanio or Incas still running their empires. Further damaging are the Christian Churches erected on their temples.
White Europeans have no room to complain about Immigration..
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I'm uk black british born. My grandparents were Jamaican immigrants.
They did not emerge from some obscure english field in the darkest of nights . They were invited by the commonwealth to help rebuild britain.. My grandmother was 15 when she arrived here. Now why would a parent send a child away?
conditions were appaling in the caribeaan thats why. It could have been engineered to happen for all i know.
Im a smooth dark brother with environmently friendly skin & hair.. young no children.
In future try not to cut n paste so much. Its evident you have a history of falsifying stuff.
Gimme some time to read & evalulate that pc nonsense.
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quote: They were invited by the commonwealth to help rebuild britain..
That was done illegally. The corrupt British goverment at the time never asked the British public to open our borders to Black and Asian immigrants. Multiracialism was something forced onto the British people, we never asked for it.
The fact of the matter is though, multiracialism and multiculturalism are failed experiments. White indigenous Britons are now a minority in most places of Britain and treated as second class citizens in their own country. There are 'no-go' areas across UK where white British cannot enter, and there has been nothing but racial conflict for ages. Look up all the riots. The recent London riots were started by blacks.
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OK .. That lengthy post was copied from the Bnp website.
I have no problem with the bnp but i dislike their dishonesty. Which is counterproductive to your cause.. you see
Arthur kemp authored March of the titans & tried to promote the Nordic egyptian.. He also has a criminal background / ties. so you have a south african advising the british national party.
This is not youtube. . Kemp is not a geneticist.
you need to raise your standards & articulate yourselves better. cant blame the jew for your sloppiness.. Note the title of this thread..
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ^ You have claimed you are not white, and furthermore (i believe) that you have mixed race children.
You are not British.
The British for starters are racially white.
Let's not deny the obvious.
who they "British" are is irrelevant to the rights that people are granted as citizens. English, Dutch and Germans are not native Americans yet is is irrelevant to the fact that if they were born in America they are considered Americans. If you want more white British you need to have more kids or let more Russians in.
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well i know that the Queen was the head of the commonwealth & many Caribeaan & African counties were still colonies under british rule.
The school curriculum & examination boards was British & all the bulk of resources & wealth were redirected into the empires.. Theirs a good book by walter rodney which documents this.
I agree that their are certain no go areas for whites.
It used to be the other way round when i was a chlld Theirs also a class issue your overlooking.
Race issues are slavery based in the usa because their class system is fairly young & geographical area is vast.
Race issues are immigration or class based in europe with reduced resources & geographicical are.
Please define Multiracialism and multiculturalism?
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quote: They were invited by the commonwealth to help rebuild britain..
That was done illegally. The corrupt British goverment at the time never asked the British public to open our borders to Black and Asian immigrants. Multiracialism was something forced onto the British people, we never asked for it.
The fact of the matter is though, multiracialism and multiculturalism are failed experiments. White indigenous Britons are now a minority in most places of Britain and treated as second class citizens in their own country. There are 'no-go' areas across UK where white British cannot enter, and there has been nothing but racial conflict for ages. Look up all the riots. The recent London riots were started by blacks.
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Arthur kemp authored March of the titans & tried to promote the Nordic egyptian.. He also has a criminal background / ties.
I haven't read March of the Titans in a while, i reviewed it a while back for Amazon. The work has numerous flaws, but it is still a worthy read. Kemp has no criminal background as far as i am aware.
quote:so you have a south african advising the british national party.
He's a rhodesian of British ancestry.
quote: you need to raise your standards & articulate yourselves better. cant blame the jew for your sloppiness.. Note the title of this thread..
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quote:Originally posted by element: Please define Multiracialism and multiculturalism?
Societies which have mixed racial and ethnic populations. Recently the goverment admitted they did this only for an 'experiment'. It actually has no benefits.
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You are ducking and dodging my point. You have no room to complain because as of today Native Americans, MAuri, and Aboriginees of Australia are 2nd class citizens in their own nations.
What is going on in London, your Forefathers, Forebrothers etc did in the 18th-late 20th century.
What is the saying..."You reap what you Sow"...
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-:
White Europeans have no room to complain about Immigration..
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BTW, whats your complaint?? Majority of Immigrants are Indians, Turks, Arabs Pakistanis etc. They are your Caucasian Bretheren, why do you suddenly have a Problem with your Arab and Pakistani Bretheren..??
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The point im trying to make was that even if you have a legitimate & peaceful cause. Its relativly easy to infiltrate your institution & undermine it from within if you have no clear & cohesive agenda.
Their was a bnp councilor her name was Sharon Ebanks. she was bi racial & kept it secret..
Arthur kemp is no longer with the bnp as he's tainted.
The Edl is open to everyone & united against the islamist extremists . But the leader was undermined on Newsnight because he couldnt articulate himself when the heavweights examined the detail.
Theirs a wn woman on youtube called originalsavagechick who debated me & everyone called me a jew ,liberal or antiwhite as an inbuilt reaction rather than look at the evidence.
Ive visited Australia & i have many black friends who migrated their. I'll deal with multiculture tomorrow..
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quote:Originally posted by element:
Arthur kemp authored March of the titans & tried to promote the Nordic egyptian.. He also has a criminal background / ties.
I haven't read March of the Titans in a while, i reviewed it a while back for Amazon. The work has numerous flaws, but it is still a worthy read. Kemp has no criminal background as far as i am aware.
quote:so you have a south african advising the british national party.
He's a rhodesian of British ancestry.
quote: you need to raise your standards & articulate yourselves better. cant blame the jew for your sloppiness.. Note the title of this thread..
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(Arthur Kemp, writer of March of the Titans)
White Supremacist Arthur Kemp Reprinting Forgotten Racist Texts Posted in Neo-Nazi, White Nationalism by Leah Nelson on July 12, 2011
Print This Post Notorious South African white supremacist Arthur Kemp has added a new project to his portfolio of transnational activism. In addition to writing for white supremacist publications and running a prominent website for British racists, he has opened an online bookstore featuring reprints of previously impossible-to-find racist tracts from times gone by.
According to its website, Ostara Publications (which Kemp founded in 1999 as a means of distributing his own white supremacist screeds) was “developed in response to anti-white discrimination the world over” and “intends to be the world’s primary Eurocentric resource.”
The collection so far is small – but what Kemp’s bookstore lacks in breadth, it makes up for in nastiness. One of the most striking resurrected titles is Arthur Compte de Gobineau’s 1853 tract The Inequality of the Human Races, the first book to promulgate the concept of a superior “Aryan race.” Tremendously popular among late 19th- and early 20th-century “Pan-Germans,” the book inspired generations of white supremacists and anti-Semites – including a young aspiring artist named Adolf Hitler.
Kemp is also hawking several civil rights-era tracts that were used to fight school desegregation in the South. Among them is Race and Reason: A Yankee View by Carleton Putnam, whose pseudo-scientific “proof” that blacks were biologically inferior to whites was used by the White Citizen’s Councils (predecessors to today’s Council of Conservative Citizens) in their battle to keep black children out of white schools. Also for sale is the equally influential The Biology of the Race Problem, commissioned in 1962 by Klan-endorsed Alabama Governor John Patterson and authored by Wesley Critz George, once a department head at the University of North Carolina Medical School.
Ostara offers some new titles as well. It is the U.K. and European distributor for White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century, by racist ideologue Jared Taylor, editor of the white nationalist magazine American Renaissance. Of course, the complete works of Arthur Kemp are also available, including a new 90-page text in which he states as fact that the I.Q. range in predominantly Muslim countries is between 70 and 79 (100 is an “average” I.Q. on most tests).
Looking at Kemp’s career, it’s no surprise that he would open a bookstore stocked primarily with hateful racist texts. Starting with his attempt in the early 1980s to revive a pro-apartheid student club at South Africa’s University of Cape Town, Kemp has spent the bulk of his years trying to breathe new life into fading pro-white causes. He was a pro-apartheid journalist in the 1980s and early 1990s, ultimately going to work in the South African security forces, which were implicated in assassinations and other violence directed at the African National Conference and other militant opponents of apartheid.
Kemp moved to England in 1996 and fell in with the National Alliance, which was at the time America’s leading neo-Nazi group. Always a fan of a losing white supremacist cause, Kemp threw himself into saving the collapsing group after founder William Pierce’s unexpected death in 2002. He wrote for and helped edit the Alliance’s National Vanguard magazine, and he drafted speeches and radio essays for its leader. He eventually got fed up, and in 2009 denounced Pierce’s recommendation that his followers abstain from participation in the democratic process and plan instead to seize power after the system’s collapse as “possibly the single most damaging influence in pro-white politics in American history.”
Between 2004 and 2011, Kemp worked in a variety of capacities for the whites-only British National Party. He resigned in March to become editor-in-chief of a British nationalist website owned by European Parliament member Andrew Brons.
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A Radical in Uniform Born in 1963, Kemp was raised in white-run Southern Rhodesia by a Dutch mother and a British father. In the early 1980s, he went to school at South Africa's University of Cape Town, where he tried to revive a "conservative" (meaning pro-apartheid) student club, and he has been a diehard ideologue ever since.
During the late 1980s and early 1990s, Kemp was a pro-apartheid journalist, and in 1990 he wrote a glowing history of the white supremacist Afrikaner Resistance Movement (Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging, or AWB). Founded in 1970, the AWB was created to establish a new Boer nation that would preserve white rule. In the 1980s and 1990s, the group was implicated in terrorist violence against anti-apartheid activists and, later, supporters of the post-apartheid government. The AWB's leader, Eugène Terre' Blanche, was finally imprisoned for six years for attempted murder.
Kemp ultimately went to work as a sergeant in the South African security forces, which were implicated in assassinations and other violence directed at the African National Congress (ANC) and other militant opponents of apartheid. Then, in 1993, leading ANC activist Chris Hani was assassinated, shot three times in the head at short range as he stepped from his car in Johannesburg. The assassination produced serious rioting and President F.W. de Klerk warned the country was on the brink of a race war. ANC leader Nelson Mandela appealed for calm and, ultimately, the crisis was resolved with a historic agreement to hold free elections in 1994.
Kemp, described by British newspapers at the time as an official of the National Intelligence Service (which denied any link to the Hani assassination), was interrogated by police in the murder but never charged. He admitted to drawing up a roster of names, headed by Mandela and followed by Communist Party leader Joe Slovo and then Hani, which authorities described as a hit list. Kemp claimed he didn't know it was to be used as a murder guide and offered up shifting explanations of the list, including the claim that it was "to be used merely for research purposes."
Later in 1993, murder charges in the Hani assassination were brought against the assassin (not Kemp) and a couple, Clive Derby-Lewis and his wife, Gaye. Kemp testified against the couple, saying they admitted to involvement during a lunch the three had together two days after Hani's death. (Kemp and Clive Derby-Lewis then both worked for a far-right newspaper, The Patriot.) Clive Derby-Lewis and the actual assassin, Janusz Walus, were found guilty and sentenced to death (both death sentences were later commuted to life), while Gaye Derby-Lewis was acquitted.
The fact that Kemp apparently avoided prosecution by cooperating with prosecutors and giving damning testimony against the Derby-Lewises may have made it difficult for him to remain on good terms with the South African radical right. Many activists in the racist movement believe Kemp moved on to Europe and the United States later because his former comrades came to detest him.
In any case, in 1996, two years after South Africa held free elections, Kemp relocated to Britain (he now resides near Oxford, England). That same year, the British anti-fascist magazine Searchlight reported that Kemp had addressed a neo-Nazi meeting in Germany and that one of his speeches was published in the German fascist publication Nation und Europa, founded by a former SS officer.
In the late 1990s, South Africa held Truth and Reconciliation Commission hearings that offered amnesty to many of those who carried out violence either for or against the apartheid regime if they publicly confessed to those crimes. During one of those hearings, Gaye Derby-Lewis accused Kemp of aiding the assassination by providing the hit list and knowing what it was for. Kemp denied it.
Back in the USA In the United States, Kemp is best known for a sarcastic racist essay, "An Apology to the Black Man from the White Race," that has been widely circulated by white supremacists. In his mocking response to the 1995 decision of the Southern Baptist Convention to apologize for slavery, Kemp "apologizes" to blacks for "teaching you how to read and write" and "for building you thousands of schools which we have repaired after you vandalized them and burned them down."
Kemp also is the author of March of the Titans: The History of the White Race. His massive 2006 book tracks the "white race" from 35,000 B.C. through the 20th century, ascribing nearly all cultural and scientific advances to white people. Kemp warns that multiculturalism and race-mixing are destroying this font of all that is good since "all civilizations rise and fall according to their homogeneity and nothing else." The book is anti-Semitic, containing chapters on such matters as "The Suppressed Link: Jews and Communism." Kemp and his book are favorites on the white supremacist forum Stormfront, where he occasionally weighs in on various topics. Stormfront's moderator, Jamie Kelso, has read sections of the book on the air, and the site carries a copy of Kemp's glowing history of the AWB.
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] BTW, whats your complaint?? Majority of Immigrants are Indians, Turks, Arabs Pakistanis etc. They are your Caucasian Bretheren, why do you suddenly have a Problem with your Arab and Pakistani Bretheren..??
British are racially Caucasoid, but not all Caucasoids are British. British is an ethnicity which Indians, Turks, Arabs and so forth don't belong to. Its exactly the same with every other country. The Chinese for example are racially Mongoloid (Asian) but not all Mongoloids are Chinese. Many of the groups you mentioned also have non-Caucasoid admixture. Indians today for example are rarely pure Caucasoid. Most have Veddoid or Mongoloid admixture - which is clearly visible.
Race is strickly about phenotype and biology. Ethnicity (although there is a physical factor) includes a common language, culture, traditions, kinship and so on. To point out the obvious Turks and Indians are not ethnically British.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Ha,ha,ha - More delusional Albinos. No wonder the world is so fuched-up.
Says the guy who spends his life 'researching' the origins of white people even dedicating a website to white people.
Going to your website shows hundreds of photos of white people. Do you drool over these?
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cassiterides - Even for an Albino, you are stupid! Britain is a small country with few resources - like Japan. And like Japan, it must export to stay alive. In order to produce goods cheap enough to compete in global markets, it must have cheap labor. You ignorant piece of sh1t, please note who accepts British goods. One African and no Central/South Americans. You can't stay alive like that. That's why they're sucking up to the DARKIES! (South Africa is 25th. not on the chart).
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He,he,he - do you understand me now Lioness? We Blacks may be coming back to re-claim our lands sooner than expected.
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So in other words you use Caucasian to steal other peoples cultures..
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] BTW, whats your complaint?? Majority of Immigrants are Indians, Turks, Arabs Pakistanis etc. They are your Caucasian Bretheren, why do you suddenly have a Problem with your Arab and Pakistani Bretheren..??
British are racially Caucasoid, but not all Caucasoids are British. British is an ethnicity which Indians, Turks, Arabs and so forth don't belong to. Its exactly the same with every other country. The Chinese for example are racially Mongoloid (Asian) but not all Mongoloids are Chinese. Many of the groups you mentioned also have non-Caucasoid admixture. Indians today for example are rarely pure Caucasoid. Most have Veddoid or Mongoloid admixture - which is clearly visible.
Race is strickly about phenotype and biology. Ethnicity (although there is a physical factor) includes a common language, culture, traditions, kinship and so on. To point out the obvious Turks and Indians are not ethnically British.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Blacks have a right to be freeloaders. The British sucked them dry in their former lands for many, many, years: now it's payback time!
Can't wait to see Cass behind a plow, picking cotton even.
The Blacks have a right to what's theirs. Having rights and being able to exercise them are two different matters however.
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Theirs an economic model at play. It starts with a business or a demand for labour. The government is just the immigration gatekeeper. Their is no experiment.It's strictly business or an opportunity for a jobseeker.
Here's a common scenario.
An expanding company requires say 80 new employees. The employee is only required to be qualified to fulfil the positions. The business accomplishes it's goals & it's relatively immediate so their done.
But behind the scenes outside of employment...
These 80 employees & their potential families have to co-exist within the wider community & share resources , services,instituitions etc Their is no infrastructure in place to anticipate or gauge the immediate demand and theirs also a presumption that everyone will assimilate / integrate.
But assimilation into the wider society is not guaranteed & can take decades. you mentioned that the public had no say in events. well the public do not influence businesses. There's also a difference between integration & assimilation.
Its easier & faster for people to assimilate with others who share similar ideals & traits. This is called primary & secondary grouping.And thats why theirs segregated areas, mini communities, chinatowns, curry miles,expatriate groups etc etc
Integration is more complex & it can be restrictive or politically enforced. as you have no choice but to mix or else in the workplace or center of learning &Many of the indigenous people may also decide to move out of these communities
you can attach race or ethnicity to the immigrants in the business model but the components still remain.
so i'm not British.. what exactly are you proposing & what is your definition of culture?
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quote:Originally posted by element: Please define Multiracialism and multiculturalism?
Societies which have mixed racial and ethnic populations. Recently the goverment admitted they did this only for an 'experiment'. It actually has no benefits.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Blacks have a right to be freeloaders. The British sucked them dry in their former lands for many, many, years: now it's payback time!
Can't wait to see Cass behind a plow, picking cotton even.
question: do you have a job?
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Yes, I am the chief quality assurance inspector at a very well-known and respected Category,Attribute&Testing Establishment, or CAT house for short.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Yes, I am the chief quality assurance inspector at a very well-known and respected Category,Attribute&Testing Establishment, or CAT house for short.
very interesting, thank you
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Yes, I thought that you would be impressed, most people are. Though it is a very physically demanding job, I am very happy to do it, and I must say, it is extremely satisfying.
But unfortunately many people envy my position, and have tried all manner of nefarious means of replacing me - you have no idea what I have to go through, just to keep my job, one that I love so much.
It has become almost impossible to keep friends, especially male friends, but luckily my job keeps me from being lonely. Just between us, I suspect that Clyde and MK are scheming behind my back too, they want my job.
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So why are you living in Britain and not your own country?
quote:what exactly are you proposing & what is your definition of culture?
Proposing for what? Regarding immigration i think mass immigration should be halted and our borders completely closed. The only exception is if we would need a single invidivual e.g. say a scientist for a specialised job. I would then put money into a voluntary repatriation scheme and offer money for immigrants to return to their country of origin.
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My grandparents were invited here. Im a 3rd generation immibritish resident under review according to you ? .. Where do we go & what if i refuse.
what about biracial children are they of semi immigrant origin?
How would this work & how far back do you go? pre / post xx century & what about the european union? Many of us also have highly specialised occupations so your repatriation money proposal has flaws . I'm young so i could accept it & return shortly after. So thanks for helping many of us semi retire before we reach 25
which political party is proposing repatriation? Are you aware that the bnp were forced to include non whites.
quote:so you have a south african advising the british national party.
He's a rhodesian of British ancestry.
I understand your points but you seriously need to update . Can Arthur kemp a zimbabwean born man with british ancestry have priority over me? . . . . . . . .
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your comments only have psychological weight or value because ( i presume ) your part of or identify with the ruling hegemony. But the manifesto disintegrates when scrutinised.
quote: you need to raise your standards & articulate yourselves better. cant blame the jew for your sloppiness.. Note the title of this thread..
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quote:Originally posted by element:
so i'm not British..
So why are you living in Britain and not your own country?
quote:what exactly are you proposing & what is your definition of culture?
Proposing for what? Regarding immigration i think mass immigration should be halted and our borders completely closed. The only exception is if we would need a single invidivual e.g. say a scientist for a specialised job. I would then put money into a voluntary repatriation scheme and offer money for immigrants to return to their country of origin.
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quote:Originally posted by element: My grandparents were invited here. Im a 3rd generation immibritish resident under review according to you ?
What you are is an immigrant with a passport which says British citizen on it.
Civically and ethnically British must not be confused.
Do you understand the difference?
Any immigrant can come to Britain and aquire a passport and stay here. However that does not make them ethnically British, as they don't descend from the ancient Britons.
Its not hard to understand, but so many people don't grasp this basis fact.
quote:.. Where do we go & what if i refuse.
Voluntary repatriation is voluntary. No one is forcing anyone to leave. I would also point out voluntary repatriation already exists as a programme under the current goverment, however virtually no money is put into it which is why it is not working under Lib-Lab-Con. The BNP however would put lots of money into it and get it working to help immigrants return to their country of origin.
Many immigrants in UK don't want to be here and want to return home.
quote:what about biracial children are they of semi immigrant origin?
They are not indigenous British.
quote:How would this work & how far back do you go? pre / post xx century & what about the european union?
Would you ask the same question to the australian aborigines or maori?
Why is it people like yourself can except all races are indigenous, but when it comes down to white people you deny us a heritage?
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which political party is proposing repatriation?
All of them support Voluntary repatriation. As a policy it was in fact invented by Labour in the 1970's or 60's.
However only the BNP wish to put money into it to get it working. As it currently exists it is pointless as Lib-Lab-Con put no money into it.
quote:Are you aware that the bnp were forced to include non whites.
Yes. The BNP as an ethno-nationalist party however does not consider them to be ethnically British but they are more than welcome to support the party.
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^^ Did you read the opening comments? Do you not find it embarrasing that a black immigrant is more knowledgeable about your cause?
wake up man
Do you understand..
Movin on ... Are you inferring..that A child who's mother was indigenous british but father is an immigrant. That child is an immigrant?
so our royal family must technically be Immigrants of German background.
Britain is the place to be for many. Many people want to be here by any means.. Do you have any data on repatriation?
If repatriation is voluntary then it's an inducement & the inducement has failed & is flawed.
The inducement amount would have to be very high if their are few takers & would be open to abuse.
EG i'll accept £750.000 for loss of livelihood potential earnings, relocation blah blah blah . Then go to France & come back via Eu freedom of movement etc
Im trying to understand your position but get the impression that your incapable of original thought.Your attention is focused on passport & claims of birthright.what was covered days ago but you overlook everything else.
I dont care how others define me . you can address me as an haitian asylum seeker for all i care. Its not me whats undermining or trying to redefine britain & stifling dissent.
your using indigenous as an emotional psychological crutch & you cant see it.Thats why all your one dimensional political parties are disintegrating.
Maybe this will help.
Pick 2 random countries & fill in the blanks.
Do you understand? Now try expanding the narrative beyond origins.
your move.
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there are quite a few so called white people who live in Britain yet are not British.
If the BNP ever got in full power they would deport people by force starting with blacks and Arabs
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Movin on ... Are you inferring..that A child who's mother was indigenous british but father is an immigrant. That child is an immigrant?
Mixed race people are not ethnically British. To be an ethnic Briton you have to have the British phenotype, genotype and be apart of British culture. Mixed race people don't have the British phenotype and they have hybrid genetics.
quote:so our royal family must technically be Immigrants of German background.
Britain has royal blood links with Germany, Denmark and many other countries going back many centuries. This is because European dynasties for over a thousand years have used marriage as a political tool.
No they aren't immigrants because their Germanic ancestry shares our phenotype and genotype and they are molded into the British ethnicity.
quote:your using indigenous as an emotional psychological crutch & you cant see it.Thats why all your one dimensional political parties are disintegrating.
I'm using indigenous because i'm an indigenous Briton. My ancestry in these isles goes back thousands of years. In contrast you are a black immigrant who has admitted you only entered this country a few decades back when your Jamaican grandparents arrived here by boat. You do the math...
Indigenous Britons have been here thousands of years and we built this country. Anti-white racists like yourself however deny us our history and identity.
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you need to raise your standards & articulate yourselves better. cant blame the jew or label me antiwhite or liberal for your collective incompetance .. Note the title of this thread..
It wasnt too hard for sharon ebanks to enter an organisation obsessed with race & origin.using subjective or arbitrary means.
sharon ebanks was a former bnp councillor, spokesperson before they were forced to include non whites into the party.
Bnp members are not allowed in many high occupation professions..
I created this thread to hear your voice & you give me a bnp article & not much else. Ive submitted many posts & examined many points but you predictably focus on race & origin & ignore the rest. why is that?
Are you more comfortable engaging with self haters & euro-culture bandits. To boost your self esteem?
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:Originally posted by element:
Movin on ... Are you inferring..that A child who's mother was indigenous british but father is an immigrant. That child is an immigrant?
Mixed race people are not ethnically British. To be an ethnic Briton you have to have the British phenotype, genotype and be apart of British culture. Mixed race people don't have the British phenotype and they have hybrid genetics.
quote:so our royal family must technically be Immigrants of German background.
Britain has royal blood links with Germany, Denmark and many other countries going back many centuries. This is because European dynasties for over a thousand years have used marriage as a political tool.
No they aren't immigrants because their Germanic ancestry shares our phenotype and genotype and they are molded into the British ethnicity.
quote:your using indigenous as an emotional psychological crutch & you cant see it.Thats why all your one dimensional political parties are disintegrating.
I'm using indigenous because i'm an indigenous Briton. My ancestry in these isles goes back thousands of years. In contrast you are a black immigrant who has admitted you only entered this country a few decades back when your Jamaican grandparents arrived here by boat. You do the math...
Indigenous Britons have been here thousands of years and we built this country. Anti-white racists like yourself however deny us our history and identity.
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quote:Originally posted by element: [QB] you need to raise your standards & articulate yourselves better. cant blame the jew or label me antiwhite or liberal for your collective incompetance .. Note the title of this thread..
We have good arguments and have articulated ourselves, its just that people like you are too dumb to understand history. After all, you are a Jamiacan immigrant. You know nothing about Britain and can never be British. Its not your heritage.
I called you antiwhite for the simple reason you deny that the indigenous British exist.
quote: It wasnt too hard for sharon ebanks to enter an organisation obsessed with race & origin.using subjective or arbitrary means.
Sharon Ebanks denies that is her father. However this episode was years back. She was expelled out of the BNP not regarding the issue of her racial origin. Why are you digging up irrelevant stuff from 5 or 6 years ago?
Please come back when you actually bother to go over for what i have said. You have made it clear though that you are poorly educated hence you keep claiming you want to 'avoid' or 'move on' from the subject of race.
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I created this thread to hear your voice & you give me a bnp article & not much else.
There is no decent purpose to this thread. You only created it to attack White British people and to promote your multiracial agenda and you are not interested in what others have to say - you just ignore them or claim to 'move on' as soon as you hear something you don't like.
Heard it all before. I encounter people like you everday, pseudo-intellectuals who think they 'know better' than the BNP, when you are too dumb to even acknowledge there is a native population of these isles.
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forming states around ancestry is part of the old world. The modern world doesn't work like that. There is one foot in the door of the old world sometimes put less and less of it each time. For example a software company might hire an Indian or Nigerian person if that person was the best performing person out of a given pool of candidates. Ancestry is completly irrelevant to how an individual may or may not function in society.
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Ive travelled worldwide to Australia, Italy France, spain, North africa, west africa, Caribbean & never had any issues.
when i wake up & go about about my daily duties i never have to think about my origin or hue. The minute i log on i encounter people like you who are obsessed with my origins & activities . Theirs a website called chimpout where people just tweet & twitter about blacks all day.
Ive also examined your prolific internet christian creationist revisionist racist trail.
your infected & are a one dimensional relic of imperial times . you use your hue & faded imperial past as some badge of honour & a psychological crutch. And your incomplete education as a shield rather than a guide.
Your a monolithic giant amongst self hating chemically enhanced brothers ,sisters & wikihistorians with low self esteem.
But your intellectually insignificant if you step into my multidimensional universe. where standards are more rigorous
your didactic comments & falsified posts will never ever get by me.Ive dissected & dismantled you in many threads since ive arrived without slander or insults.
I will put my background,education,credentials up against you or your ilk anytime. .
Its evident im a far superior representation of a British subject / human than you will ever be.
I accept your resignation...
Quit messing with the universe & welcome to the 21st century.
Grandmaster element
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:Originally posted by element:
I created this thread to hear your voice & you give me a bnp article & not much else.
There is no decent purpose to this thread. You only created it to attack White British people and to promote your multiracial agenda and you are not interested in what others have to say - you just ignore them or claim to 'move on' as soon as you hear something you don't like.
Heard it all before. I encounter people like you everday, pseudo-intellectuals who think they 'know better' than the BNP, when you are too dumb to even acknowledge there is a native population of these isles.
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quote:Originally posted by element: when i wake up & go about about my daily duties i never have to think about my origin or hue. The minute i log on i encounter people like you who are obsessed with my origins & activities . Theirs a website called chimpout where people just tweet & twitter about blacks all day.
Don't lie. You are obsessed with race, hence why you admitted you waste your time on youtube debating white nationalists.
You are a multiracialist who spends his time obsessed with white people who want to preserve their race. Does it upset you not everyone wants to mix? Otherwise i don't see your obsession with debating/harassing white nationalists.
quote:Ive also examined your prolific internet christian creationist revisionist racist trail.
Many of those posts are not mine.
quote: your didactic comments & falsified posts will never ever get by me.Ive dissected & dismantled you in many threads since ive arrived without slander or insults.
You've done nothing but made an idiot of yourself in this thread. I also don't understand the purpose of this thread in the first place. Is there even a point to this debate?
All i merely said is that you are an immigrant after you admitted you are one and that your grandparents only arrived recently in UK from a foreign country.
You are not British. Deal with it.
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Cassis meet your great great great grandma and Pops Such scenes must have been repeated for centuries all the way back to Roman times and beyond he got a handful she has her hands full them damn kids looked like they are a handful.. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Such scenes must have been repeated for centuries all the way back to Roman times and beyond he got a handful she has her hands full them damn kids looked like they are a handful..
There were no Blacks in Roman Britain.
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Come on Cassis your granddaddy loved that Ho,and Euronutz they just deny,deny and deny..
And as un attractive as she was the brother was also cupping a feel,after all he did marry her..or maybe it was a shot gun wedding??
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