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De meeste moslims zijn zwart. De media verzwijgt dat, mogelijk omdat dit te schokkend zou zijn voor de kijkers; moslim en ook nog zwart! De Profeet was zwart. Waarom ga je niet beter je huiswerk doen?
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: fugking Arabs!!
xyyman - I have tried to educate you, as has others. But it seems that the White mans programing is just too powerful.
When you equate a Turk or Turk-mix with Arab, you have fallen into the same trap they used to equate Blacks with pronasthism or inferiority.
REAL Arabs are Black people, therefore kahanyah is a lying Turk (they also claim to be Egyptian you know) or some other same type person, and is best ignored.
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Egmond - I take it they are desert Arabs? They are rarely seen - for obvious reasons. It would have been nice to have an English translation.
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Weather the Prophet considered himself black or not he had Black ancestors and decendants...again if you are a Muslem...like your butt buddy Big Ho the Lesbo..Islam really could do without you as a defender...Again you like Big HO hate Bilal ...and anyone that looks like him.which would be in direct opposition to the Prophet..who regarded Bilal as a fourth of the faith.
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Cheeky!! are you serious??...If you,... are Bilal was the Prophet's first convert..and first to call people to prayer using...the voice only thing ..instead of a drum or a horn.plus he was a good soldier,diplomat,missionary and all around good guy..he was to take over the leader-ship of the faith but declined for reason of old age.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: fugking Arabs!!
xyyman - I have tried to educate you, as has others. But it seems that the White mans programing is just too powerful.
When you equate a Turk or Turk-mix with Arab, you have fallen into the same trap they used to equate Blacks with pronasthism or inferiority.
REAL Arabs are Black people, therefore kahanyah is a lying Turk (they also claim to be Egyptian you know) or some other same type person, and is best ignored.
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I don't think Muhammad or Jesus were Black.
They most likely looked like modern tan to brown skinned Southwest Asians.
The Ancient Egyptians however were Black. This has been confirmed by a multiple of scientific research.
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quote:Originally posted by Morpheus: I don't think Muhammad or Jesus were Black.
They most likely looked like modern tan to brown skinned Southwest Asians.
The Ancient Egyptians however were Black. This has been confirmed by a multiple of scientific research.
Do you think there was any African admixture in the ancient Hebrew population? Israel is very close to Egypt, so I think it is likely that there was enough gene flow between the Egyptians and Hebrews to produce a notable number of Hebrews with darker skin and curlier hair than your stereotypical Southwest Asian.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Cheeky!! are you serious??...If you,... are Bilal was the Prophet's first convert..and first to call people to prayer using...the voice only thing ..instead of a drum or a horn.plus he was a good soldier,diplomat,missionary and all around good guy..he was to take over the leader-ship of the faith but declined for reason of old age.
He did not decline. Once Muhammad was dead Abu Bakr stole the leadership positin. In my opinion Bakr was jealous because Bilal was an Ethiopian.
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Don't understand why these brotha's get caught up in this Islam nonsense.
What makes you think it is any better than Christianity. Writing to a bitch like BigMo is very conciliatory. Trying to reach him through Islam shows weakness. . . Dr.
Appeasing is only OK . . . with a rational person.
Time we step into the 21st century.
What these fugking Rabs. . .eh Turks don't get is that European don't care the fugk about them. don't even consider them white.
They bomb the fugking daylights out them(rabs) killing the woman and children. Euros threat then less than us blacks. Always testing out their new weapons. Dicks don't even realize this but are always trying to emulate them.
Primitive thinking 7th century stupid fugks!!
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Morpheus and BrandonP - neat trick talking out of both sides of you mouths at the same time.
Since you both seem able to read the type written stuff, your seemingly obliviousness to the pictures that have been posted here, many times, over many years, must be purposeful.
No matter, I will remind you! Please note: I DO authenticate the pictures.
From the Black Obelisk of Assyrian King Shalmaneser III - 858 B.C.
Hebrews.
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Wall relief depicting Assyrian King Sennacherib’s Attack and conquest of the Judean City of Lachish. British museum, London.
Hebrews.
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Assyrian king Tiglath-pilesar III’s Assyrian warriors leading the inhabitants of a city near the Sea of Galilee, Astartu or Ashtaroth.
Hebrews.
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Phoenician.
Two things are apparent, all the above people are obviously Black people.
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^^Seeing that you two "allowed" that Egyptians MIGHT have been Black, I didn't bother to post Egyptians. But on second thought, and being mindful of what kind of people I was dealing with, I decided to post Egyptian. But one that would leave NO doubt. That is, one without the usual paraphernalia.
From Kom Abou Billou, the necropolis of the ancient city of Terenouthis
quote:Originally posted by BrandonP: [QUOTE]Do you think there was any African admixture in the ancient Hebrew population? Israel is very close to Egypt, so I think it is likely that there was enough gene flow between the Egyptians and Hebrews to produce a notable number of Hebrews with darker skin and curlier hair than your stereotypical Southwest Asian.
quote:To the Jews Muhammad was indebted for almost all the stories and many of the laws in the Quran. This, with strange misunderstandings, gives a large part of pre=Christian religious history. Moses, e. g., was a black man!
quote: During the first or Meccan period (610=622) of his prophetship Muhammad and his followers looked upon the Abyssinian Christians as their religious kinsmen. "Yonder," he said to some of his persecuted converts without protectors, and, as he spake, pointing westward: "Yonder lieth a land where none is wronged. Go thither, and remain till the Lord open a way". Dean Stanley noted this connection between the Abyssinian Christians and the first Muslims. He wrote: "Springing out of the same oriental soil and climate, if not from the bosom of the oriental church itself, in part under its influence, in part by reaction, Muhammadanism must be regarded as an eccentric, heretical form of eastern Christianity. This was the ancient mode of regarding Muhammad. He was considered not the founder of a new religion but, rather, one of the chief heresiarchs of the church".
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± Dr Preserved Smith's Bible and Islam and Arnold's Preaching of Islam (both of which appeared subsequently to the completion of this work) appear to justify its conclusions. Dr Smith finds that for the most part the doctrines of Muhammad originated in the younger rather than the elder theism, and seemingly regards Islam as in many respects a counterpart of medieval Christianity. Merensky's Muhammadantsmus und Christenthum im Kampfe uttt d1e Neyer- laender Afrikt?s, apparently corroborates the views in the concluding port1ons of this chapter. Professor Duncan Macdonald even calls "Islam simply Calvinism '*
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markellion - I have always thought of Islam more as the younger sister of Christianity, with the parent being Judaism.
When you look at Christianity when it was Islams age (1400-1500), you will see the parallels. Both intolerant and both expansionist.
People forget that the reason Europe became Christian was war. And the worlds largest Catholic Christian population (Latin America), is Christian because the Pope sanctioned their conquest - don't know if he meant for ninety million people to die though.
So in my mind, Islam is just going through a normal growth phase. In time, they will be just as looney as the Christians.
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What do you mean . . . in time(looney). LOL
I remember seeing a PBS(?) documentary about 10yo. On Islam. Think it was called "the sword of Islam."
There was a part about the Shia sect. In one "celebration" there were 1000's of guys marching and hitting their heads with a sword. These people were inflicting wounds to themselves, bleeding, singing and marching. Talk about Dogma!!!.
They are no different to some of my ancestors left on the continent.
In that same documentary - There was a part on Mohammed being chased to be killed and he ended up in Ethiopia where the king at the time protected him. Without the Ethiopians all the fughkers would of either been Christians or still screwing goats . . . or is it camels. Yet the dick talks about my fellow Africans. GTFOH!!
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xyyman - That is why it is so important to clearly identify people racially.
Those are NOT Arabs saying and doing all of those anti-Black things - THEY ARE FUCKING TURKS!! They USED to be White people - many still are.
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xyyman - The people beating themselves (self flagellation), was atonement for the bolded below.
The Orthodox Caliphate" is the name given to the four companions of Muhammad who in turn became his deputy, or Caliph, following his death. Abu Bakr, 632-634, Omar, 634-644, Othman, 644-656, and Ali, 656-661. Only Ali was a relative. Omar launched the early military attacks of the Arab tribes against the Romans and Persians. A regular Roman army was destroyed in the battle of Yarmuk, south of Damascus on the desert's edge in 636. Jerusalem fell to the attackers in 638. The Persian state eventually surrendered to them in 642. Egypt was conquered in 643. Their first campaign towards Carthage was in 647, a raid against the island of Sicily was reported in 652, and the island of Rhodes was plundered in 654. Major Roman fleets were defeated near the Nile delta, in 651, and along the coasts of Lycia (southwest Turkey), in 655, where the majority of the remaining Roman navy was destroyed. The first official edition of the Koran appeared in 653.
From the first pagans and idolaters (mostly Arab tribes at the beginning) were given the choice of conversion to Islam or death. This is the Islamic concept of jihad or holy war. However, beginning with the Jews at Yathrib and elsewhere in Arabia and traditionally with the Christians of Najran, Muhammad recognized their having been blessed by Allah in possessing earlier revelations in the form of their scriptures. So while they were invited to submit to the new revelation they were only to be taxed as subjects if they did not. Later defeated non-Arab peoples outside of Arabia who were Christians or Jews or Zoroastrians were required to pay both a head tax and an annual property tax, but were not required to abandon their faith or convert to Islam. However, when non-Arabs converted to Islam they were exempted from the head tax--a substantial incentive to convert.
All the while, an aspirant to the caliphate was Ali, Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law. Upon the murder of Uthman, Ali became caliph (656-661). The governor of Damascus, Muawiya (don't know if he was Greek), refused to recognize Ali in 656 and mounted his own claims to the Caliphate. When Ali agreed to negotiate with Muawiya his own followers were divided and began to fight among themselves. After a civil war, Ali moved his capital to Kufa Iraq, and was later assassinated at Al Kufah.
Ali's followers established the first of Islam's dissident sects, the Shia (from Shiat Ali "party of Ali"). Those before and after Ali's succession remained the orthodox of Islam; they are called Sunnis - from the word sunnia meaning orthodox.
The Ummayad Caliphs trace their lineage from Muawiya I, 656-681, who after Ali's death was recognized as Caliph by all Muslims except the Shiites. During the Ummayad period, 656-750, the Caliphs made Damascus their headquarters. This period in Islamic history is known as the Arab Kingdom and the Caliphs acted as an emperor over an empire that eventually by 750 extended from Pakistan, western India and the frontiers of China in central Asia to northwest Africa, Spain and southern France in the West. Muawiya made a peace treaty with Emperor Constans II that lasted from 659-661. After 661 Arab armies fought their way across what is now Turkey and took the city of Chalcedon, 30 miles east across the Bosporus from Constantinople. Every year from 673-677, the Muslim land and naval forces launched full-scale attacks on Constantinople without success. Meanwhile a second campaign against Carthage and northwest Africa was launched from 670-683.
Muawiya again made a peace treaty with the Romans in 678 that lead to increasing commercial exchange and the employment of Roman technical assistance for the Muslims. Particularly, Roman craftsmen were employed to supervise the building of the Dome of the Rock at Jerusalem, and both the Umayyad palace and great mosque at Damascus.
This is White history, so if there are inaccuracies don't blame me.
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If he had the sense god gave geese, he wouldn’t have been in this situation in the first place.
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That is awesome because this means Europeans were corrupted by these religions that go back to Moses, who was evidently a black man!
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markellion - According to Manetho, the Egyptian priest who wrote the history of Egypt (which we depend on to build our own history of Egypt) - in Greek, probably for Ptolemy I (305-282 B.C.). Moses was an Egyptian from Heliopolis whose name was Osarsiph.
The Hebrew myth of Moses, was built upon the autobiographical myth of the Amorite Sumerian King Sargon I (about 2,500 B.C.). Hebrews are also Amorites - we call them Semitic language speakers. (A better definition of Amorite or Semite would be all who originally came from Anatolia (modern Turkey).
I think that it would be more accurate to say that Europeans and Turks (Khazars/Jews and Islamists) "corrupted" these Black religions, rather than being corrupted by them.
These concepts of spreading the religion by force, forcing people to convert, and discriminating against people based on their religion, were unknown in the Pure Black World.
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markellion - The Turks-who-call-themselves-Arabs, often say that Muhammad was actually Mesopotamian rather than Arab. I have no way of knowing if that is true or not, but if it is true, then that would explain a lot.
By the time of Muhammad (600 A.D.), the Black Sassanian Persians had re-taken Mesopotamia (i.e. Sumer/Acade/Assyria). But prior to that (at the fall of the original Persian Empire built by Cyrus II), Mesopotamia had fallen into the hands of three White dynasties (Alexander, the Greek Seleucid's, and the Parthian's).
So if Muhammad was indeed Mesopotamian, then there is a chance that he was actually a White man. That would explain his forcing the Arab tribes to accept Islam or die. Because as I said before, that behavior was not known in the Black world.
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markellion - Another thing that a White Muhammad would explain, is his ARMY!
Arabia is one of the LEAST populated countries in the world! Yet Muhammad's Empire extended from China to the Atlantic Ocean, including eastern and southern Europe - that is HUGE, where did the huge ARMY that accomplished this come from?? No way they were Arabs!
Sure the Turks eventually took over, but where did the troops come from to start it all off?
If Muhammad was a White man, then he could have used all of those Greeks and Parthian's that were left-over and now out-of-work, when the Sassanian Persians re-gained control of the area.
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He was as beautiful as prophet Joesph ,each one of them were given half of the beauty God has created
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Arabs were never Blacks ,it is the huge slavery industry they had those old times and when islam came and made it nearly implicit order to end this trade ,blacks became from the Arabs.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Arabia is one of the LEAST populated countries in the world! Yet Muhammad's Empire extended from China to the Atlantic Ocean, including eastern and southern Europe - that is HUGE, where did the huge ARMY that accomplished this come from?? No way they were Arabs!
it is not armies that brought islam to china or pakistan or indonesia,it is the traders and merchants who ere there ,people of those places were fasicnated by the high morals and honesty of those Arab and muslims mershants.
HISTORICAL FACT
quote: Muhammad was a White man, then he could have used all of those Greeks and Parthian's that were left-over and now out-of-work, when the Sassanian Persians re-gained control of the area.
he was white but not eurpean not italian nor anglo sakson not EUROPEAN ,
as a matter of fact Arabs of Today (Arabia) has one grandfather who is prophet Islamel (son of prophet ibraham from Iraq) and their grandmother is hagr which was Egyptian
also All of these are historical facts
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quote:Originally posted by Morpheus: I don't think Jesus were Black.
If the white Romans who ruled at the time Jesus was alive says the Jews were like the ancient Ethiopians why do you doubt them?
BTW what was once known as Ethiopia extended all the way to West Africa, a 300 old map by the Dutch when they first set foot in West Africa confirms this to be the case.
In line with this fact, according to the old historians, the Jews in Jesus' day including Jesus himself were black and were usually mistaken for Africans.
The majority of people say the Judaeans were those Ethiopians whom fear and hatred obliged to change their habitations, in the reign of king Cepheus.
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One of the customs most zealously observed among the Aegyptians is this, that they rear every child that is born, and circumcise the males, and excise the females, as is also customary among the Judaeans, who also are Aegyptian in origin, as I have already stated in my account of them.
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quote:Originally posted by ** Ahmad**: of course the prophet was white!!
no douht about that!
He was as beautiful as prophet Joesph ,each one of them were given half of the beauty God has created
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Arabs were never Blacks ,it is the huge slavery industry they had those old times and when islam came and made it nearly implicit order to end this trade ,blacks became from the Arabs.
Historical FACTS
Arabs were never blacks? What and where are these so-called historical facts do you have to back up your nonsense? You are so full of sh!t.
Do you know who Arabs descended from? They descended from Abraham's son Ishmael and since the Bible makes it clear Abraham and his descendants were black so it would mean the very first Arabs were black as they were the result of Abraham having a son with his female African servant Hagar.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Hello Energy, didn't know that you were still keeping an eye on things.
Hi Mike111, good to see you too. How are things with you my brother?
Sorry I have not been around of late, I have been very busy. I just stopped by briefly but I hope to spend more time here in the coming months.
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quote:Originally posted by ** Ahmad**: it is the huge slavery industry they had those old times and when islam came and made it nearly implicit order to end this trade ,blacks became from the Arabs.
Historical FACTS
No! This is European colonial propaganda.
Most Africans coming to the "Middle East" were free immigrants and Mohamed relied greatly on Ethiopians. How can it be possible for Africans to help Mohamed if Africans were victims?
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quote:Originally posted by ** Ahmad**: what is this people!
can not you have any serious discussion!!
only insults and curse words!!
this is why this forum has deteriorated !!
Come, come ** Ahmad**, what are you trying to pull? Are you not the no. 1 RACIST on this site putting down and insulting black people at every given opportunity? Oh I forgot, its Ramadan so you are pretending to be nice huh? LOL! I am sure Allah is not fooled either.
If I was insulting in my reply to you, take it that I am simply speaking to you same way as you have portrayed yourself on this site. If you don't respect people no one would respect you either.
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this is Islamic history written b Egyptians,arabs,all Muslims I do not use European resources
quote:Originally posted by markellion: Most Africans coming to the "Middle East" were free immigrants
not true,in those old days in arabia ,they were slaves (no offence)
quote: Mohamed relied greatly on Ethiopians
not true,I challenge you if you can prove this,I know islamic histroy well,it was only one icident when the prophet Muhammad pbuh asked the ethiopians for help ,and he sent muslims their not ethopians were sent to arabia
quote: How can it be possible for Africans to help Mohamed if Africans were victims?
what africans are you talking about?! no african helped the prophet! only those in Arabia helped him
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Come, come ** Ahmad**, what are you trying to pull? Are you not the no. 1 RACIST on this site putting down and insulting black people at every given opportunity? Oh I forgot, its Ramadan so you are pretending to be nice huh? LOL! I am sure Allah is not fooled either.
If I was insulting in my reply to you, take it that I am simply speaking to you same way as you have portrayed yourself on this site. If you don't respect people no one would respect you either.
I have never insulted blacks in this forum ,on the contrary ,I am not white ,I am not so black ,I define my self as some guy with dark skin ,half of my dear friends are black
so tell your friend who is just firing insults everywhere ,words like,idiots,sh!t..will get you nowhere,so stop these absurd words ,and try to have serious discussion
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quote:The king of Zafun is stronger than the veiled people of the Maghreb and more versed in the art of kingship. The veiled people acknowledge his superiority over them, obey him and resort to him in all important matters of government. One year the king, on his way to the pilgrimage, came to the Maghreb to pay a visit to the commander of the Muslims, the veiled king of the Maghreb, of the tribe of Lamtuna. The Commander of the Muslims met him on foot, wheras the king of Zafun did not dismount for him. He was tall, of deep black complexion and veiled.
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From Ibn Sa'id 13th century
quote: (On Kanim) This sultan has authority there over kingdoms such as those of the Tajuwa, Kawar, and Fazzan. God has assisted him and he has many descendants and armies. His clothes are brought to him from the capital of Tunish. He has scholars around him
The region where Zaghawa wander is to the east of Manan. They are for the most part Muslims owing obedience to the sultan of Kanim
The bellow account is about mercenaries who were from Zaghawa (which was mentioned above) and came to Egypt through Nubia.
The sudden and conspicuous appearance of the Sudan amongst the armies of Ibn Tulun in Egypt calls for an explation. Some sources like us to believe that he bought as many as 40,000 Negro slaves and made soldiers out of them to build up an empire of his own. Buying such a number of slaves, let alone training them to be an effective fighting force in a completely unfamiliar territory, would certainly have required more time than the few years that preceded their appearance in Egypt and subsequently in Syria and on the Byzantine borders in the early years of Ibn Tulun’s rule 868-88 254-70. Other sources more accurately inform us that he “enlisted” these Sudan in his army. Curiusly enough Muhammade ‘Ali, the ruler of Egypt in the early nineteenth century, did the same thing and we know that when he unsuccessfully deployed such men in these very areas against the Ottomans, the failure of the experiment was attributed to the fact that these men had no motive to fight in a foreign land…..
I think that it would be more accurate to say that Europeans and Turks (Khazars/Jews and Islamists) "corrupted" these Black religions, rather than being corrupted by them.
Mike111, you are such a hypocrite. You can't blame "white" people for these religions.
(Actual genocides, however, are a different story)
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markellion - You seem to be suggesting that there is a large part of history that I am missing.
Here is what I've got, please let me know what I missed.
Round about 1,100 B.C. Amorites (Hyksos, Habiri, etc.) established the nation of Israel in Canaan - and a NEW religion called Judaism.
Round year (0) A Black Hebrew named Jesus established a NEW sect of Judaism called Christianity.
Round year 330 A.D. Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity and made it the official religion of the Rome Empire. The Roman Catholic Church was thus formed, and became the dominate Church of Christianity - and as such, controlled the writing of ALL Books of Christianity, and the functioning of Christianity.
Round about 700 A.D. the Khazars of Khazaria converted to the Hebrew religion, and made Judaism the State religion. They subsequently oversaw the writing of ALL books of Judean, and relating to the Judean religion, and oversaw the functioning of the religion.
From all of that, I make the logical conclusion that since White people wrote ALL of the Books of these religions, and control the functioning of these religions, then those religions MUST now be White religions. Please point out my error in logic or fact.
In case you need help in researching your answer, here are some useful links for you.
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Sorry markellion - Islam began to become White with the Tulunid dynasty: It was during the rule of Abbasid caliph Harun ar-Rashid (ruled 786-809), that the caliphs began assigning Egypt to Turks rather than to Arabs. The first Turkish dynasty was that of Ibn Tulun who entered Egypt in 868.
It became totally White with the beginning of the Ottoman Empire in 1516 A.D.
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For anyone who questions this look at **Ahmad**. These people accept colonial interpretations of their own religion!
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The Turks did not have a concept of scientific racism. As late as the 1870s whither or not Bilal was a slave seems unimportant in the Muslim world.
quote:A third very important influence which has retarded the development of the Christian Negro may be found in the social and literary pressure which he has undergone. It is not too much to say that the popular literature of the Christian world, since the discovery of America, or at least for the last two hundred years, has been anti-Negro. The Mohammedan Negro has felt nothing of the withering power of caste. There is nothing in his colour or race to debar him from the highest privileges, social or political, to which any other Muslim can attain. The slave who becomes a Mohammedan is free.'7 Mohammedan history abounds with examples of distinguished Negroes. The eloquent Adzan or Call to Prayer, which to this day summons at the same hours millions of the human race to their devotions, was first uttered by a Negro, Bilal by name, whom Mohammed, in obedience to a dream, appointed the first Muezzin or Crier. And it has been remarked that even Alexander the Great is in Asia an unknown personage by the side of this honoured Negro. Mr. Muir notices the inflexible constancy of Bilal to the faith of Islam under the severest trials.29 Ibn Khalli- kan mentions a celebrated Negro Khalif, who reigned at Bagdad in the ninth century.30 He describes him as a man of great merit, and a perfect scholar. None of the sons of Khalifs spoke with greater propriety and elegance, or composed verses with greater ability.....
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The Turks did not make it into a white religion. Just because they are fare skinned doesn't make them racist
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Qur'an 9:97 "The Arabs of the desert (the real Arabs i.e. the Black ones) are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger."
Ishaq:243 "I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"
Ishaq:144 "A rock was put on a slave's chest. When Abu Bakr complained, they said, 'You are the one who corrupted him, so save him from his plight.' I will do so,' said Bakr. 'I have a black slave, tougher and stronger than Bilal, who is a heathen. I will exchange him. The transaction was carried out."
Tabari II:11 "Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."
Tabari II:21 "Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."
Tabari IX:69 "Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah's Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us."
Bukhari: V9B89N256 "Allah's Apostle said, 'You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'"
Ishaq:450 "It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent."
Ishaq:374 "The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, 'Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.'"
Bukhari:V4B52N137 "The Prophet said, 'Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"
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