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osirion
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African Archaeological Review, Vol. 22, No. 2, June 2005 (C 2005)
DOI: 10.1007/s10437-005-4189-4
Explanation of the Pattern of P49a,f TaqI RFLP
Y-Chromosome Variation in Egypt
S. O. Y. Keita1
The possible factors involved in the generation of the p49a,f TaqI Y-chromosome
spatial diversity in Egypt are explored. The object is to consider explanations
beyond those that emphasize gene flow mediated via military campaigns within
the Nile corridor during the dynastic period. Current patterns of the most common
variants (V, XI, IV) have been suggested to relate to Middle Kingdom and New
Kingdom political actions in Nubia, including sometimes settler colonization, and
the conquest of Egypt by Napata (in upper Nubia, northern Sudan) that initiated
Dynasty XXV. Other events or processes have not been presented. However, a
synthesis of evidence from archaeology, historical linguistics, texts, the distribution
of haplotypes outside of Egypt, and some demographic considerations, lends
greater support to the establishment, before the Middle Kingdom, of the observed
distributions of the most prevalent haplotypes: V, XI, and IV. It is suggested that the
pattern of diversity for these variants in the Egyptian Nile Valley, was largely the
product of population events that occurred in the late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene
through Dynasty I, and was sustained by continuous smaller scale bi-directional
migrations/interactions. The higher frequency of V in Ethiopia than in Nubia or
upper (southern) Egypt, has to be taken into account in any discussion of variation
in the Nile Valley, especially in the context of the findings of historical linguistics.

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Anyone have access to the full article?

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quote:
Originally posted by osirion:
Anyone have access to the full article?

You know it.

GENETICS, EGYPT, AND HISTORY: INTERPRETING GEOGRAPHICAL PATTERNS OF Y CHROMOSOME VARIATION

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History in the Interpretation of the Pattern of p49a,f TaqI RFLP Y-Chromosome Variation in Egypt: A Consideration of Multiple Lines of Evidence


Above are S.O.Y. Keita's dual analysis of the original study which is here:
Brief Communication: Y-Chromosome Haplotypes in Egypt

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quote:
The Nile: Sub-Saharan corridor to North Africa
Which is exactly the problem with those who say that Egyptians couldn't have been black because they lived in "North" Africa. If hippos and crocodiles could make it from sub-Saharan Africa to Egypt via the Nile Valley, why not people too?

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well centric, you are correct. black africans did move down the Nile and into Egypt but not during ancient times.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer:
well centric, you are correct. black africans did move down the Nile and into Egypt but not during ancient times.

Genetics disagrees with your opinion

QUOTE] More recent dispersal out of Africa, represented by the E3b-M35 chromosomes, expanded northward during the Mesolithic (Underhill et al. 2001b). The East African origin of this lineage is supported by the much larger variance of the E3b-M35 males in Egypt versus Oman [/QUOTE]


QUOTE] M35 chromosomes are seen in the Oman, North African, and East African populations, as well as in the South African Khoisans (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002; present study). There are three distinctive sublineages (E3b1-M78, E3b2-M123, and E3b3-M81) that display nonrandom distributions (fig. 1). E3b1-M78 predominates in Egypt and Ethiopia, E3b3-M123 in Oman, and E3b2-M81 in northwestern Africa. Importantly, these three sublineages are restricted to regions north of the equator. In contrast, the E3b*-M35 lineages appear to be confined almost exclusively to the sub-Saharan populations [/QUOTE]

QUOTE] The present-day Egyptian E3b-M35 distribution most likely results from a juxtaposition of various demic episodes. nce the E3b*-M35 lineages appear to be confined mostly to the sub-Saharan populations, it is conceivable that the initial migrations toward North Africa from the south primarily involved derivative E3b-M35 lineages. These include E3b1-M78, a haplogroup especially common in Ethiopia (23%), and, perhaps, E3b2-M123 (2%), which is present as well (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002; Semino et al. 2002). Si [/QUOTE]
The Levant versus the Horn of Africa: Evidence for Bidirectional Corridors of Human Migrations

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cut and paste proves nothing. Either do professional research or go back to the gas station and go to work.

The Mesolithioc? What about adam and eav idiot? You are all over the road and are making a complete fool of yourself.

You cut aand paste a single view without a scrap of context. You wonder why some people think blacks are not as bright as others....well, what can they say when they read this slop.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer:
cut and paste proves nothing. Either do professional research or go back to the gas station and go to work.

The Mesolithioc? What about adam and eav idiot? You are all over the road and are making a complete fool of yourself.

You cut aand paste a single view without a scrap of context. You wonder why some people think blacks are not as bright as others....well, what can they say when they read this slop.

Typical Biotch your response. I "googled" the study because i was familiar with the information, Quoted the Main text that proved you wrong, and bolded the key points. The information is in PERFECT context, you are just not smart enough to KNOW the subject matter. Now quit acting like a little PUSS and dispute the date. You cant because as much as you yap about I.Q.'s you dont know what the data means. Get real, the study is listed, print it out and give it to one of your black teachers, they will tell you what it means.
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^^ lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer:
cut and paste proves nothing. Either do professional research or go back to the gas station and go to work.

The Mesolithioc? What about adam and eav idiot? You are all over the road and are making a complete fool of yourself.

You cut aand paste a single view without a scrap of context. You wonder why some people think blacks are not as bright as others....well, what can they say when they read this slop.

This is idiotic. Sub-Saharan Africans would have moved up the Nile in constant waves especially considering that the Nile flows Northward and that climate change would have forced populations during cycles to move Northward with the rains.


The Nile was a corridor to North Africa for Black Africans.

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