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What does one deem appropriate or inappropriate when discussing about race? What should be the limit and exceptions? Please provide your comments and insight.
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I think the limit should be placed on derogatory words when referring to race. For instance, using the "N*gger" or "K*akker" word when referring to race should be banned. Other than that, everything else should be fair game.
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An example of what should be permitted: A critical outlook of and approach to culture of groups of people, i.e., race. The use of supportive data, news articles, or personal experience to buttress this outlook should be allowed.
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And so we come to what constitutes "derogatory words when referring to race". Some might see your use of "negro culture" (especially in reference to rape) as derogatory and offensive. Ausar I smell another thread in the making. [Roll Eyes]
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^Do you take offense to UNCF (United Negro College Fund)?
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These two recent examples stand out (which is why one of the antagonists are scrambling in this thread)..

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=004181

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=004172

^Like I've expressed, the only aim of posts like these are to upset people. Not to 'have fun', not to entertain any sort of discussion, but to flame. To specifically target ethnic groups by advancing nazi doctrine.

I find it disgusting that this is a view people share but why does it need a platform here? No form of mainstream media in American democracy gives platform to these ideas, which speaks to the direction of this forum. Do we want to be a racialist backwater of fringe scholarship or a scholarly community that accepts freedom of expression and opinion, but not to anyone's detriment? Keep in mind, these are MY opinions. My only problem are with threads whose only intent is to degrade. Stupid threads are stupid threads, covert or overtly racist threads are another category entirely.

Mau also is a flamer, but as long as it isn't spam, after spam, after spam, after spam (literally destroying the forum's productivity), those type of posts I find tolerable. Mike111 is tolerable except when he resorts to name-calling by referring to people with specific ethnic designations as "albinos", 'crackers', or something other than what they are. His bogus research aside, an 'attack' on any ethnic group in any post (in my own opinion) should not be tolerated.

I will also add that any word used with bad intent should be seen as inappropriate. If using "Negro" in the context of a derogatory post (like "Negro rapists"), then obviously the term was meant to offend and no amount of disingenuous denial will counter that fact. Or to imply that behavior is genetically pre-determined and that such behavior is inferior to behaviors of others, speaks again to the purely racist, derogatory nature of the post. I think moderators should adapt WITH the racists and not be so gentile when they try to disguise their malice with pathetic appeals to free speech. He would not have 'retracted' his post if nothing were wrong with it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Afrocentric Liars Exposed:
^Do you take offense to UNCF (United Negro College Fund)?

Yes I do.
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^So, if someone posted a reference and credited UNCF, would you protest to have the thread yanked?
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Don't complain about race bait threads if yall were serious yall would post more over at E.S.R but stirring the pot about race makes for good drama and who doesn't like being entertained.
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quote:
Originally posted by Afrocentric Liars Exposed:
^So, if someone posted a reference and credited UNCF, would you protest to have the thread yanked?

No I wouldn't.
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^And are you protesting along with Sundjata to have my posts censored?
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Sorry, I'm not the hyper-sensitive Obama loving liberal Sundjata is, you sore loser.
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^Okay, then you kewl just for that, troll.
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quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
Don't complain about race bait threads if yall were serious yall would post more over at E.S.R but stirring the pot about race makes for good drama and who doesn't like being entertained.

I'm not talking about just "stirring the pot" about 'race', I think I made at least that much clear. How is ignorant nonsense good for anybody? There's a difference between threads based on controversy and threads based on contempt.
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quote:
Originally posted by Afrocentric Liars Exposed:
^Okay, then you kewl just for that, troll.

fuk you illiterate.
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^And are you protesting along with Sundjata to have my posts censored?
If there was nothing wrong with the post, or no 'bad intentions', then why'd you "retract" it? You censored yourself because you were exposed.

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^No clown, I self-censored out of respect for and because of the long time rapport I have had with ausar.
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^Why would ausar object to 'free speech' that wasn't reprehensible?

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Okay, let's be civil and disagree. I made this thread to understand what exactly is defamatory racial hate speech. I also opened this thread on whether racial topics should be allowed. Please everybody tell me what racial topics should be limited. Clearly, we should refrain from slurs and notions of racial inferiority.

For instance, should posts like Qahdafi says Europe will be overrun by blacks be deleted? Should such topics be forbidden.

To anguish, it goes both way and some of your posts can be considered racially insensitive to. Personally, I can weather most of the abuse most posters have towards me because I don't care what others think of me. Egyptsearch is not my entire existence. I simply post here because ancient and modern Egypt is my personal hobby. I guess all the talk about the origins of the ancient Egyptians brings about all the racial talk. Anyway, I would appreciate everybody's views.

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The Qadhafi thread is a legitimate one. I think Qadhafi's statement is relevant, especially considering his sentiment reflects the view of much of North Africa.
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Of course it goes both ways, "offensive" is subjective. I couldn't care less what the fool posts. The only ones who take the idiot seriously are Sundjata and those that respond to his posts. The guy is clearly damaged by the constant defeats he suffers from Afrocentrics, hence his forum name, so why are people playing into his hands? His constructed historical world has collapsed. He is just going through the motions. Dont take the fool seriously.
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^I take nothing here seriously (especially you), I'm concerned with the perception and productivity of the forum.
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The Qadhafi thread is a legitimate one. I think Qadhafi's statement is relevant, especially considering his sentiment reflects the view of much of North Africa.

Agreed. That thread is not like the one Eurocentric liar exposed just made.
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Ok, I see, you dont take it seriously so you bitch and whine for censorship in a thread you created directed at the person who offended you. LOL!
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^LOL!! Dude I am "Afrocentric Liars Exposed." How do you feel now?

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^How am I supposed to feel?
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Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Ok, I see, you dont take it seriously so you bitch and whine for censorship in a thread you created directed at the person who offended you. LOL!

The only thing that "offends" me is your intelligence.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sundjata:
The only thing that "offends" me is your intelligence.

Really? So why hell are you bitching and whining about Gigantic's racism? You're just upset cause you allowed your dumb highbrow hyper-sensitive ass to get sucked into his game. Your denials are as pathetic as his. LOL
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^You simply can't read as it should be clear in my original post that my main concern was the direction of Egyptsearch. If I'm not a "negro rapist", why would I care about what he thinks personally, it's that he uses ES as a platform to express his purely racist views. I'm just wondering why that's okay with people.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sundjata:
^You simply can't read as it should be clear in my original post that my main concern was the direction of Egyptsearch. If I'm not a "negro rapist", why would I care about what he thinks personally, it's that he uses ES as a platform to express his racist views. I'm just wondering why that's okay with people.

Bitch STFU please. You wanted it censored because you found the post offensive. Then whined about all racist (in your view) rants (like Mikes) against ethnic groups should not be tolerated. Again, your denials are as pathetic as his, you two deserve each other. lol
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^Obviously you found it "offensive" since your're the only one using that word and wasn't your ass banned for being a troll and doing the same sh1t "Akoben", the jew-destroying Jamaican Nazi. You are just as racist as he is, no wonder you're "offended" by my post.
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I hope y'all two using contraception. The world dreads the thought of anguishofbeing pushing out your baby, Sundjata, MWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Sundjata:
^Obviously you found it "offensive" since your're the only one using that word and wasn't your ass banned for being a troll and doing the same sh1t "Akoben", the jew-destroying Jamaican Nazi. You are just as racist as he is, no wonder you're "offended" by my post.

Stop saving face coward, you found them insensitive or inappropriate. Ausar asked you to point out the insensitive or inappropriate posts and you gleefully did.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=004182

So stop playing dumb like the other dumbo. Then again, you two cowardly backtrackers are good for each other. How do you feel Captain America? You allowed the racist nut to get the better of you? And you're suppose to be the "educated" one? LOL

Yeh, I got banned by a hyper-sensitive liberal such as yourself. Excuse me if I'm a little peeved about liberal hypocrites and censorship. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
I hope y'all two using contraception. The world dreads the thought of anguishofbeing pushing out your baby, Sundjata, MWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

^^^^^
LOL....

On the real Gigantic you know damn well you make threads for the purpose of making folks mad.(Calling your thread the "Genetic" Inate behavior or something like that) Some of the stuff you post I doubt you really even mean it. I mean you do think blacks are less intelligent etc, but some ish you go overboard..LOL.

But I find that people are NOW protesting when others like Mike have a history of Anti-White racist posts.

I think the problem with Mau is that he has a history of coming to the forum under a different moniker and eventually spamming 5 or 6 threads a day of the same images of subjugated Nubians or critiques of Afrocentric books, or the dead burnt dog with Djhuti

Don't know why people are defending him.

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The parameters are obvious. This is innate common sense.
Do you see mainstream media allowing the type of spewed
hatred condoned on this forum? Let that be your guide to
appropriateness, limits, and exceptions.

In the end it's your responsibility not ours except to alert
you of offenses -- because no one expects you to read
each and every post -- which you as moderator must
weigh and judge in final irrevocable decision pro or con.

As I've shared with you years ago moderator is the
most thankless job on the planet but when taken up
it makes a moderator the same as an edtor of a paper,
magazine, journal, or book. The norms of accredited
publication for you to administer already exist. For
applying them some will laud you and some will scorn
you. As a man you must answer to your own conscience.

quote:
Originally posted by ausar:
What does one deem appropriate or inappropriate when discussing about race? What should be the limit and exceptions? Please provide your comments and insight.


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Agreed, ultimately.

The deriding of a "race" or other socially identified group of people is the deriding of a race or other socially identifiable group of people.

It may be difficult to eliminate room for discussion topics which - whether problem oriented, general lore, recreational, or whatever - are implicitly suggestive.

There is definitely WAY too much talk about albinos (manly by like two people) and too much talk of black Americans and white Westerners.

In summation i'd just like to say -- i mean it's ok to talk about **** that happens but a race based or cultural diss should be off limits.

Things like generalizations don't need to be off limits but when it appears your sole purpose here seems to be to whine and moan and all around nut-hug about a particular race it isn't inappropriate that you get moderation attention.

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quote:
Originally posted by Whatbox:


Things like generalizations don't need to be off limits but when it appears your sole purpose here seems to be to whine and moan and all around nut-hug about a particular race it isn't inappropriate that you get moderation attention.

Speedball....you're a genius for this part. [Wink]

I can agree with 5150, deal? [Big Grin]

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Spamming the forum with ku klux klanic vitriol, that totally lack FACT, and universalizing it towards a supposed single group of people should be grounds for censorship for such material. Most of confirming truth/gigantic's posts fall into this description -- Just a bunch of lie-whinin just to get "even" with "people who supposedly turned his worthless world upside down". It is no different from the atrocious acts of serial rapists or murderers who justify their abnormal behavior by blaming their victims, be it the type that generally hates females or kids, for the social misery.
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