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Lioness, why don't you give it a try yourself?
You can start by explaining how these "Tropically Adapted" Black people (Dravidian Albinos) are morphologically different from "ANY" European population.
I see heavy-set people, tall thin people, and people in-between, just as I would in ANY European population. But these are Black people, who just happen to be Albinos. So please explain to us how they are different morphologically, from Europeans.
The man in the middle, has a much shorter proportional calf length, than the other two men. By Allen's rule he is "Cold Adapted" (it's about proportionality remember). But Is he? And how does this jibe with his having the ultimate tropical aspect - Black skin.
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Mike, if it has been proven that animal limb proportion is affected by evolutionary adaptation to cold temperature climates, albinism is irrelevant to that. If you say that humans, which are a type of animal, did not experience limb adaptation to cold climates due to their use of clothing and fire that has no bearing on your explanation for light skin which has nothing to do with temperature.
You made a statement about clothing and fire use by humans, please stick to the topic and stop acting out. Let's see how people react to your statement before you get caught up in a picture spamming emotional maelstrom. Be patient
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Mike, if it has been proven that animal limb proportion is affected by evolutionary adaptation to cold temperature climates, albinism is irrelevant to that. If you say that humans, which are a type of animal, did not experience limb adaptation to cold climates due to their use of clothing and fire that has no bearing on your explanation for light skin which has nothing to do with temperature.
You made a statement about clothing and fire use by humans, please stick to the topic and stop acting out. Let's see how people react to your statement before you get caught up in a picture spamming emotional maelstrom. Be patient
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on cold adaptation in humans:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: What a total degenerate fool you are.
When you find animals with Fire, Tools, and Clothing, please get back to me. [/QB]
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Mike, if it has been proven that animal limb proportion is affected by evolutionary adaptation to cold temperature climates, albinism is irrelevant to that. If you say that humans, which are a type of animal, did not experience limb adaptation to cold climates due to their use of clothing and fire that has no bearing on your explanation for light skin which has nothing to do with temperature.
You made a statement about clothing and fire use by humans, please stick to the topic and stop acting out. Let's see how people react to your statement before you get caught up in a picture spamming emotional maelstrom. Be patient
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Fool, no one will attempt to debunk my position, simply because they can't. Material data, sound logic, and anecdotal data make it irrefutable. So to fill up the space, I will post nice pictures.
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You're like someone who says that clovers are four leafed because you found one in ten thousand that are three leafed.
Obviously the thin white man in the suit is not average.
Mike, what you are doing is called anecdotal evidence. In every population there are anomalies, people who are not of average build. If you look at the average build of people in Africa (not AA's I said Africans, average people not sports stars) their limbs are longer in proportion to the the rest of their body as well as thinner. If you look at people, particularly in the Northern half of Eurasia they average with significantly with limbs that are shorter and thicker.
What you should be doing is looking for the typical type to get a general picture. Instead you do the opposite weird = normal
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Lioness, You are a fool and a liar. There is no data, and there never was any data, to support anything that you said.
And being a truly stupid liar, It never occurred to you how ridiculous it is to continually regurgitate something some idiot like yourself, came up with in 1827 - that's really stupid, but being stupid, you don't realize it.
You and the others, were given material which clearly said that ALL modern Humans were tropically adapted humans, yet you persist with your stupidity.
Any person with a properly functioning mind knows that morphology is related to DIET! You fool.
Here is a discussion on that very same subject, and a telling quote:
This creates a conceptual problem for the evolution of the human diet: if modern humans, all of whom are morphologically and physiologically very similar, consume such a wide range of foods, then how is it possible to specify the particular diet of earlier humans?
Damn you Allen' rule people are stupid! Squish all your brains together, and it would still only make one idiot.
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Hey lioness, stuck aren't you? Told you nobody could refute me. See, it's just as I told you all along: you are NOT some specially evolved creature, bred for cold climates. You are an Albino, pure and simply. Accept it, and learn to deal with it.
In case you need more, here is more:
Homo erectus
There are specimens from a wide time span and a vast geographical area that have been attributed to erectus. The traits of these specimens are very similar, and show a trend toward the modern human condition. Some of the trends linking erectus with sapiens includes:
Shortening of armbones (especially the forearm) to come to a very humanlike limb proportions (postcranial proportions are very similar to tropically adapted modern humans).
Clearly, other Albinos in denial led you astray. Among them Holliday, Gallagher A, Gunther MM, Bruchhaus H. - are at the top of the list.
Not because they actually SAID that Whites were "Cold Adapted" humans (they didn't really say it). But they IMPLIED it in such a way as to make not-too-bright Albinos in denial, like yourself, BELIEVE that they had said it.
I believe that you need to e-mail my expose to them, and tell them that there is a Nigger at ES just waiting for a chance to stuff his foot up their lying pink asses - they should come and talk to him.
------------------------------- Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins.
Holliday TW.
Department of Anthropology, College of William and Mary, Williamsburg, Virginia 23187-8795, USA.
Population continuity, demic diffusion and Neolithic origins in central-southern Germany: the evidence from body proportions.
Gallagher A, Gunther MM, Bruchhaus H.
School of Anatomical Sciences, University of the Witwatersrand, 7 York Road, Parktown, Johannesburg 2193, Republic of South Africa. Andrew.Gallagher@wits.ac.za
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Mike, how come this Indian girl with naturally non-wavy straight hair looks like an Indian girl and we would not mistake her for African or African American "black" person with straightened hair? How is that possible?
Either:
a) her ancestors were African and her people's looks changed after those ancestors left Africa and settled in Asian areas.
or
b) Indian people did not have African ancestors, the are of independent origin
Temperature effects on femur length. Representative femora from mice housed at cold (7 degees C) and warm (27 degrees C) temperatures from weaning age to adulthood showing the effect of ambient temperature on extremity size.
The underlying cause of such effects is not immediately obvious because homeotherms maintain tightly regulated internal body temperatures independent of their external environment.
The same effect is seen when little mouse bones are grown in vivo:
Mike, limb proportion and skin pigmentation are two separate things stop mixing it up and being retarded
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She is not really an Indian in the "true sense". It would be more accurate to call her a Hindu. Even thought that is really a religious term, it does describe her hybrid nature (Arian and Dravidian).
True Indians are the Dravidians, they look like this.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] BTW - Lioness, I forgot to mention:
She is not really an Indian in the "true sense". It would be more accurate to call her a Hindu. Even thought that is really a religious term, it does describe her hybrid nature (Arian and Dravidian).
Mike, you say the Arian is the product of Dravidian people who had albino children so the distinction you are making is irrelevant. Also, why is it that the majority of Dravidian people have non-wavy straight, flat laying hair? Why is their hair different form the vast majority of Africans who have afro kinky hair. Why don't people look the same all over the world in an even mixture of types at any given location?
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Damn kitten, I thought by now you'd have grown tired of people calling you dumb and gotten your **** together. yet, when I look on the board, here you are seeking attention by asking stupid question based on false Albino propaganda theories hoping by some chance that they may contain some hope to stroke your knowledge damaged ego. Why don't you attempt something different for a change and work this question out for yourself using logic and established data. First, everything revolves around melanin. If you are attempting to base the conversation around limb development, then the conversation is still, melanin. When the conversation is based on bones structure, what you are really discussing is, Vitamin D intake, or diet. What we are also discussing is, Melanin conversion of Vitamin D for bone formation. Now, as related to Typical/Cold adaptation, the conversation is still related to Vitamin D intake due to UV index, vs temperature differentials in Warm/cold environments. Guess what? For blacks (Africans, there is no delta. For Albinos, there is a clear differentiation. Why? Because for Blacks and Albinos, Black women manufacture up to 40% more 1,25 than white women when they both consume the same diet. This 40% greater level of 1,25 for black women translates to up to 25-30% denser bone development in their children than white women's offspring. UV levels are sufficiently high enough in artic regions for those with melanin to obtain there daily allowance of Vitamin D from direct sunlight exposure leading to normal bone development of their offspring. Unfortunately, Arctic UV levels are also high enough to cause sun burn in Albino, causing them to requiring using heavy UV blocking clothing or find shelter in the arctic sun, not achieving their daily Vitamin D intake requirement. Any difference in direct sunlight Vitamin D intake must be made up through diet. In extreme instances as in Dr. Winters "Cave" theory, it may be impossible for albinos to obtain their daily Vitamin D allowance, thus leading to shorter, less dense, and weaker limbs in those living in colder regions and unable to convert natural Vitamin D.
Kitten, bottom line is; Cold/Warm temperature does not affect bone formation. Vitamion D intake/Diet does, so the Cold Adapted theory is BS!
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MK - Lack of melanination has made her brain useless.
She has been told many times that Albinos (Whites), like Mongols, are an "Inbred" population with limited variation. Even her own Albino people tell her the same thing. They also tell her that Africans have the greatest variety of all humans. But yet here she is, asking that same stupid question.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Damn kitten, I thought by now you'd have grown tired of people calling you dumb and gotten your **** together. yet, when I look on the board, here you are seeking attention by asking stupid question based on false Albino propaganda theories hoping by some chance that they may contain some hope to stroke your knowledge damaged ego. Why don't you attempt something different for a change and work this question out for yourself using logic and established data. First, everything revolves around melanin. If you are attempting to base the conversation around limb development, then the conversation is still, melanin. When the conversation is based on bones structure, what you are really discussing is, Vitamin D intake, or diet. What we are also discussing is, Melanin conversion of Vitamin D for bone formation. Now, as related to Typical/Cold adaptation still relates to Vitamin D intake in Warm/cold environments. Guess what? For blacks (Africans, there is no delta. For Albinos, there is a clear differentiation.
Melanin, what you are discussing is the vitamin D hypothesis. Yes I agree we as black folk can't absorb vitamin D as quickly as white people because we have more sun protection. But Melo, that layer of dark melanin is only the top layer of skin. The other six layers are white.
Yet that still has nothing to do with temperature. So please start a separate thread on melanin if you want to. I forget if you have ever discussed that before.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Damn kitten, I thought by now you'd have grown tired of people calling you dumb and gotten your **** together. yet, when I look on the board, here you are seeking attention by asking stupid question based on false Albino propaganda theories hoping by some chance that they may contain some hope to stroke your knowledge damaged ego. Why don't you attempt something different for a change and work this question out for yourself using logic and established data. First, everything revolves around melanin. If you are attempting to base the conversation around limb development, then the conversation is still, melanin. When the conversation is based on bones structure, what you are really discussing is, Vitamin D intake, or diet. What we are also discussing is, Melanin conversion of Vitamin D for bone formation. Now, as related to Typical/Cold adaptation still relates to Vitamin D intake in Warm/cold environments. Guess what? For blacks (Africans, there is no delta. For Albinos, there is a clear differentiation.
Melanin, what you are discussing is the vitamin D hypothesis. Yes I agree we as black folk can't absorb vitamin D as quickly as white people because we have more sun protection. But Melo, that layer of dark melanin is only the top layer of skin. The other six layers are white.
Yet that still has nothing to do with temperature. So please start a separate thread on melanin if you want to. I forget if you have ever discussed that before.
Kitten, you respond to my address with yet more stupidity and incorrect conclusion. Why Can you NOT learn? Are you on Anti-depressants or some other brain activity modifying drugs?
No Kitten. It is NOT true that Blacks are not able to absorb Vitamin D at the same rate as YOU whites. In fact, as you should realize, the exact opposite is true. The facts are;
+ Whites possess far less Vitamin D converting melanin and therefore naturally convert Vitamin D at far lower rates than blacks.
+ Because of lack of natural UV protection, whites are forced to deploy artificial sun BLOCK agents which do not absorb or allow UV to penetrate. Therefore, only a fraction of UV penetrates and minimal levels of Vitamin D is converted.
+ Blacks are able to absorb UV at all radiate electromagnetic levels while Whites are limited to only UV in the RED spectrum. Therefore, Blacks absorb UV from a multitude of sources over their entire bodies.
+ In Hot or Cold climates, whites possess clear limitations to the time allowed in direct sun exposure. For blacks, no such limit exists.
Clearly, UV exposure and it's resultant Vitamin D conversion is the most reasonable candidate for differences in bone formation between "normal" humans and albino derived derivatives. It appears to me that some of your white "experts" are using this bogus temperature adapted theory to obscure their true affliction, albinism. Truth is, temperature variation has absolutely no impact on Vitamin D intake or conversation. However, in NORMAL humans (non-albino) external temperature does equate in long term melanin density evolution.
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I think Mike raised an interesting point. He says though Allen's rule may apply to animals it doesn't apply to the human animal because we adapted to cold climates by using clothing and fire. That has some logic to it.
So this theory keeps leaves tact your precious melanin based racist theories so not to worry young pup.
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LMAO @ U!!!\Not because of the validity of Melanin theory, which is medical fact, but because of your grasping at every straw to deny it's truth. It doesn't matter to me. In my mind, it's merely just another reality. Maybe because it's not I who have to deal with it in any realistic way. You do, but don't worry. I'm here for you to help you understand your ailment, and it's many varied and warped effects.
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Sometimes a similar result is common to two different causes.
This is one of those times.
The wide nostrils of this child are not as well suited to colder climates because they take in cold air more quickly. Read about this and other differences in zarahan's post, book quote in the thread entitled "lioness"
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron. incredible picture there.
Sometimes a similar result is common to two different causes.
This is one of those times.
The wide nostrils of this child are not as well suited to colder climates because they take in cold air more quickly. Read about this and other differences in zarahan's post, book quote in the thread entitled "lioness"
Lioness, sometimes your lies are so stupid and outrageous that I simply cannot afford you the courtesy that normal people would expect.
You are one degenerate lying piece of sh1t. So blatant as to make one wonder if you are a functional Moron.
Note the nostrils of an Albino baby, derived from Albino parents. You stupid bitch, you were in such a hurry for a lying comeback, that you didn't even bother to really look at the babies nose.
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