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Let's start off by noting quickly where the word "Caucasoid" derives......
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The Caucasus mountains, mountains of which flow through Asia and Europe, scholars can't agree on where to place its geographical signature. (Note that Europe is really just a part of Asia anyway)
Johann Blumembach was the first to utilize these mountains as an imaginary homeland for a separately different species (from what we are today) of homo sapiens originating in these Caucasus mountains, and not in Africa.
Which indeed was/is a desperately sad attempt.
A task which has/is still being vehemently used mostly by the minority bigoted scholars to deny the human diversity within the homeland of anatomically modern humans, Africa. Despite all predominant findings on the African origin for anatomically modern humans, few still deny it.
The recent African origin for anatomically modern humans is the top academic theory backed significantly by the majority in the consenting scientific field. I.e, OOA (Out Of Africa)
What should be noted and of extreme importance and once it's realized then this "Caucasoid" nonsense would make even less sense then before, is that Europe was pretty much the last place populated by anatomically modern humans who were still tropically adapted coming from Africa.
So, one might be compelled to ask just how could/would the great grandson (in this case Europe) add to the great diversity of the grandfather (Africa)?
Well simply it didn't (except for pale skin)and it's not needed, but hey this is yet another delusion posited by the nay sayers who dissent against an African origin of anatomically modern humans.
Blumembach designated the Caucasoid race, of which was marked as originating in the Caucausus mountains and to be noted as being the first humans with a straight aqualine, thin, narrow or long nose with thinner lips, while exhibiting an orthognal profile instead of a prognathous.
This imaginary Caucasoid race of Blumembach, which was said to have arose separately in the Caucasus mountains (away from anatomically modern humans in Africa, whom we are all descended from today) was and still is magically said to have given all humans around the world their diversity in pertinence to thin phenotypical features, indeed even Africans.
Africans, even though Africa is the place where anatomically modern humans had been living and diversifying for at least 200,000 years, yet few will still deny the natural diversity that would be obviously present and instead attribute more diversity to a younger population of humans whom descend from these same Africans, I.e, Europeans. This is completely nonsensical.
The diversity that is present in Africa whether it be phenotypic or genetic is extremely immense, this makes perfect sense and in fact should be common sense since Africa is where humans had been living, diversifying and indeed evolving 120-140,000 years before any anatomically modern humans had been successfully living outside of Africa.
So in a nutshell features such as a thin nose and thin lips and being orthognal instead of prognathous did not magically arise in the Caucasus mountains and spread out from there, and hence the term "Caucasoid" for such features is fallacious.
If East Africans supposedly received thin noses and lips from outside admixture with Eurasians, how come these Eurasians didn't pass on the skin genes for lighter pigmentation as is obvious amongst more northern Africans where the SLC24A5 derived allele is significantly present in geographically proximate populations in north Africa, and how come the limb proportions of these Africans were not affected in any way instead are still considered to be extremely tropically adapted?
This makes no sense at all to have come from Eurasians, and once these questions are considered and answered the idea of "Caucasoid" becomes apparently delusional.
Instead what makes perfect sense is that since Africa, specifically in this case sub-Saharan east Africa being home to anatomically modern humans for 200,000 years would've evolved in situ, due to environmental pressures and adaptations and such traits as thin noses and lips were actually given to the people who descend from them, as in all non Africans alike who at one time all resembled their African ancestors.
The above man (Paul Kagame) and his people were in the past considered to be "Caucasoids", and thought to be migrants from East Africa carrying E1b1b (E3b) since East Africans and E1b1b were erroneously classified as "Caucasoid" as well, but come to find out these individuals (Tutsis) actually carry predominately E1b1a (E3a) and not E1b1b (E3b).
Destroying the "Caucasoid" race.
The following quote from Carelton Coon is talking about the man above I posted, and his people, the Tutsi, who have ~80% E3a according to published data, and no outside non African admixture nada, zilch. So where did the Tutsis receive their thin features from? So much for Africans needing non African admixture for said diversity.
The Story of Man Carleton Coon
p 196-197 Borzoi Books, 1965
Few skeletons have been found in the Sahara, and these are hard to date because of soil erosion. In Arabia prehistoric archaeology has barely been started. Yet we can be reasonably confident, until other evidence upsets the theory, that these deserts were the home of the slender variety of Caucasoid man. In East Africa this type has survived among the slender, narrow-faced Watusi and other cattle people.
Clear example of African diversity from E1b1a(E3a) carrying Africans who were once classified as "Caucasian"....Clear destruction of E1b1a(E3a) being assigned to a "Negroid" profile.
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In my observation, "caucasian" has reached a racialist cult-status amongst folks of European descent, because the sounding of the term makes them feel like they are a different species from every other member of humanity. You ask "white" people in the U.S. for example, what their "race" is, and they'll more than likely answer along the lines of "I'm caucasian".
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This imaginary Caucasoid race of Blumembach, which was said to have arose separately in the Caucasus mountains (away from anatomically modern humans in Africa, whom we are all descended from today) was and still is magically said to have given all humans around the world their diversity in pertinence to thin phenotypical features, indeed even Africans.
Note: "caucasoid" itself is ploy to include all that which is not really, or at the very least, pure "caucasian", and tacitly or overtly use that element as the phenotypic manifestation of evolutionary upgrade. Thus, "caucasoid" has not fully attained the evolutionary "status" of the full-blown "caucasian", but is on its way to being so. Henceforth, a "caucasoid" implies "caucasian-like" but not quite "caucasian".
quote:Originally posted by Marc Washington:
Indeed, why not include albinos into this "caucasoid" family; after all, they have a trait that is "caucasian-like" but not quite there -- deficiency in epidermal melanin. It is funny how this trait is not looked upon as being "caucasoid".
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: In my observation, "caucasian" has reached a racialist cult-status amongst folks of European descent, because the sounding of the term makes them feel like they are a different species from every other member of humanity. You ask "white" people in the U.S. for example, what their "race" is, and they'll more than likely answer along the lines of "I'm caucasian".
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This imaginary Caucasoid race of Blumembach, which was said to have arose separately in the Caucasus mountains (away from anatomically modern humans in Africa, whom we are all descended from today) was and still is magically said to have given all humans around the world their diversity in pertinence to thin phenotypical features, indeed even Africans.
Note: "caucasoid" itself is ploy to include all that which is not really, or at the very least, pure "caucasian", and tacitly or overtly use that element as the phenotypic manifestation of evolutionary upgrade. Thus, "caucasoid" has not fully attained the evolutionary "status" of the full-blown "caucasian", but is on its way to being so. Henceforth, a "caucasoid" implies "caucasian-like" but not quite "caucasian".
quote:Originally posted by Marc Washington:
Indeed, why not include albinos into this "caucasoid" family; after all, they have a trait that is "caucasian-like" but not quite there -- deficiency in epidermal melanin. It is funny how this trait is not looked upon as being "caucasoid".
If the data of the oft referenced conservative Cavalli-Sforza is used, then supposedly pace-setting Caucasains (white Europeans) are not a primary race but a mongrel mix- hybrids between Europeans and Africans.
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you mean Asians and Africans.
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As I become more knowledgeable in genetics, history and phenotype etc I am seeing humans through different lenses.
One thing I do notice is that East Asians (so called Chinese people) – mostly southerly ones are almost all prognathous. They have thick lips and darker skin.
They can be classified “Africans”. No wonder some of us mistakenly call them black or Africans.
They have a lot of the stereotypical “negroid” features. Prognathosim, thick lips, round face, large strong teeth. However they have extremely straight hair, folded eyes etc.
Point is.. . .
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If the data of the oft referenced conservative Cavalli-Sforza is used, then supposedly pace-setting Caucasains (white Europeans) are not a primary race but a mongrel mix- hybrids between Europeans and Africans.
Yeap, we've discussed said Sforza's ad infinitum here, but not all the average public of the so-called "caucasians" are aware of his work. I'm not even sure all these so-called "caucasians" know the actual origins of the term, i.e. its underlying geographic basis, and yet, call themselves "caucasians" because they were conditioned by society to do so.
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MindoverMatter718 you don't have anything else to do in life but say the same thing over and over and over and over.
I guess its the only thing you can do to make yourself feel successful.
Because I can tell from your postings that you are menially employed. You're not smart enough to be in upper management or run a business.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: As I become more knowledgeable in genetics, history and phenotype etc I am seeing humans through different lenses.
One thing I do notice is that East Asians (so called Chinese people) – mostly southerly ones are almost all prognathous. They have thick lips and darker skin.
They can be classified “Africans”. No wonder some of us mistakenly call them black or Africans.
They have a lot of the stereotypical “negroid” features. Prognathosim, thick lips, round face, large strong teeth. However they have extremely straight hair, folded eyes etc.
Point is.. . .
[Prognatism]
[Femke Halsema]
There are no races, just phenotypes and body shapes adapted to climatic conditions. Whites are albinos and albino mixes.
Whites should have been present from the beginning and will not die out as long as there are blacks. But they seem, even in nature, among plants and animal life, to be a minority.
I wonder why Europe became wholly white/albino. - They are perhaps better adapted to the cold and sunless milieu. - There numbers might have overwhelmed the black Europeans, when the whites arrived 6000 years ago. - But I suspect that the biggest transformation was brought about by racism, telling the poor people how ugly, stupid and ape like blacks are.
This forced blacks to marry whites to make white off spring. Even today whites who look dark are mercilessly teased and maligned at school.
Femke Halsema, political leader in the Dutch Parliament from patrician background, also mentioned this about her youth.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: As I become more knowledgeable in genetics, history and phenotype etc I am seeing humans through different lenses.
One thing I do notice is that East Asians (so called Chinese people) – mostly southerly ones are almost all prognathous. They have thick lips and darker skin.
They can be classified “Africans”. No wonder some of us mistakenly call them black or Africans.
They have a lot of the stereotypical “negroid” features. Prognathosim, thick lips, round face, large strong teeth. However they have extremely straight hair, folded eyes etc.
Point is.. . .
The southern mongoloids are not negroid. They are classical mongoloids and date back to the first mongoloids. The Chinese and Koreans are much recent mongoloids.
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Upped, any logical members out there willing to try and prove the existence of Caucasoids? Beyond the actual Caucasus mountains? I'm waiting...
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quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: Upped, any logical members out there willing to try and prove the existence of Caucasoids? Beyond the actual Caucasus mountains? I'm waiting...
I found this picture on the internet. It seems to prove the existence of Caucasoids. If the people above are not Caucasoids how would you classify them?
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The above is the Black Sub Species trying to Claim to be the main species !and as usual try to steal Gracile Heritage! When Hawass says that Ancient Egyptians were NOT Black or Arabs I believe him !He has the DNA ! and the credibility. The difference between the Prime Species who are GRACILE ( fine boned, whites & Asians) is they also carry a different frontal Lobe,as well as a different Bone structure & forman Magnum & skull Than the Robust Animal , Blacks See Huxley , he was way before Political correctness. We are different Animals, Graciles invented the Society that has educated Blacks or tried to.
Did you get a PHD from a Black University !Ha I find the less intelligent people are ,the less Humility They have ! Robusts Never had an Industrial Revolution and in their Own enviroment Never Invented a Thing Everything of consequence was invented by Graciles ! EVERYTHING. Blacks were in the stone age 50 years ago in their natural enviroment ! Didn't bury their dead , and had no written language ! are Social failures due to average 80 IQ 30% passed senior school in USA in 2010 and that includes Hybrids who are neither black or White 70% graciles passed . The 30% includes Affirmative action !Blacks were in the lowest 15% in Lawschools ! Before you throw a hybrid at me, half white half black , a Donkey breeds with a horse The Result is NOT a Donkey OR a Horse it is a Mule Obama is a Hybrid ! and is President because of being perceived as Black. sic The Blacks will try and steal anyones culture they can, as they have very little to show for the last 10,000 years ! I suppose blacks have even found a written Language ! They will say they had developed at some time, Bullshit ! Face it , you are a Sub species ! Biology , Facts on intellect and History Says I am right ! My Arguement is FACT you have to manufacture one to argue ! We are now finding evidence of very old Graciles See the first Australians Mungo Man first dated at 60,000 years but changed by political correctness to 40,000 still 20,000 years older than the Robust aboriginies, Mungo man cremated & buried his dead ! aboriginies never did !and the X lady in Europe at 40,000.I am sure we will find much older ! At some point Graciles became at least 30% smarter, my guess Neanderthals interbreeding. The timeline for out of Africa stinks , we would have left as Australapithacines 2 million years ago if in fact we didn't leave as a rat!and why were Dinosaures all over the Planet 100+ million years ago, so our Mammel ancestors hung around in Africa, Thats funny when there were mammel ancestors found in Germany 90,000 years old! OOA is to make Robusts feel they are the same as Graciles ! And why are blacks in whites Societies! I see no Graciles flocking to anywhere in Africa! Blacks are protected with lies from the left Accept the facts and get on with life as a Sub Species Remember Rhodesia !
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MK quote: Albinos suffer from brain abnormalities because melanin deprivation causes miswiring of the brain.
48Scorpion doesn't waste any time, first post, and he gets right into it. Welcome aboard 48Scorpion, you're gonna be a lot of fun.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: If the people above are not Caucasoids how would you classify them?
They are Europeans, you dumb ****.
U call them Caucasoids? Where is the scientific data that says all ethnies encompassed under said notion originated in the Caucasus region.
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Caucasian race From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The term Caucasian race (also Caucasoid, Europid, or Europoid) has been used to denote the general physical type of some or all of the indigenous populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Central Asia, and South Asia. Historically, the term has been used to describe the entire population of these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone. In common use, specifically in American English, the term is sometimes restricted to Europeans and other lighter-skinned populations within these areas, and may be considered equivalent to the varying definitions of white people.
The concept of a Caucasian race or Varietas Caucasia was developed around 1800 by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, a German scientist and classical anthropologist. Blumenbach named it after the Caucasian peoples (from the Northern Caucasus region), whom he considered to be the archetype for the grouping. He based his classification of the Caucasian race primarily on craniology. Blumenbach wrote:
"Caucasian variety - I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (birth place) of mankind."
According to monogenist thought, God formed humans in their pure form. As they spread out over the globe, they degenerated in appearance. Blumenbach’s and other monogenists’ ideas led to the widely held conclusion that the purest and most beautiful whites were the Georgians one nation of the Caucasian region, a mountainous area on the Caspian and Black seas close to Iran, then the Persian Empire, Russia, and Turkey, then the Ottoman Empire .
As is plain to even the stupidest, the above is far removed from fact, as a matter of fact, it is pure fantasy, just like the White mans history in general.
So exactly what is it? It represents the White mans understanding of his true nature, and true place among humans, and unwillingness to accept this truth. His response to the truth, was to create counter myth, and physiological erotica, which is an essential ingredient for White people, especially people like Mr. Blumenbach (Why are they always Germans?), doing this!
OOH YA BABY, we be special, fuch that Albino bullsh1t, and fuch them Niggas!
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