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-Just Call Me Jari-
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This idea came to me from another Forum. I found it interesting as a topic. Most depict Europeans but you don't have to post just Europeans.


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The Chinese impression of the Daqin (Roman) people, from the Ming Dynasty encyclopedia Sancai Tuhui (The caption reads: The Country of Da Qin, is where western businessmen are gathering. The king wraps his head by cloth in pyramid shape. This land produces coral, gold, brocade with pattern, silk cloth (without pattern), pearls, etc. )

More on the Chinese Impression of the Roman Empire..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daqin

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The Nanban Foreigners..


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A group of Portuguese Nanban foreigners, 17th century, Japan.

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A Portuguese carrack in Nagasaki, 17th century.

Nanban (南蛮 lit. "Southern Barbarian") is a sino-Japanese word which originally designated people from South Asia and South-East Asia. It followed a Chinese usage in which surrounding "barbarian" people in the four directions had each their own designation, the southern barbarians being called Nanman. In Japan, the word took on a new meaning when it came to designate Europeans, the first of whom were Portuguese, arriving in 1543. The word later came to encompass the Spanish, the Dutch (though these were more commonly known as "Kōmō", 紅毛, meaning "Red Hair") and the English. The word Nanban was thought naturally appropriate for the new visitors, since they came in by ship from the South, and their manners were considered quite unsophisticated by the Japanese.

Note: Although they were considered uncivilized Europeans had quite an impact on Japan which led to its eventual Industrialization.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanban_trade

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More on the Nan-ban Period in Japan

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16th Century Japanese Nanban screen
showing the arrival of Jesuits in Japan Circa 1549

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Six-panel Byobu screen showing Portuguese missonaries and Japanese women playing musical instruments. Nanban trade period, Japan; 18th century CE.

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Black lacquer lunch box showing European foreigners. Japan, Nanban period, 18th century CE.

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The Codex Azcatitlan is a pictorial Aztec codex, detailing the history of the Mexica from their migration from Aztlan to the Spanish conquest of Mexico and Christianization

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Codex Telleriano-Remensis Folio 44R
Nuño Beltrán de Guzmán on his conquest through the province of Xalisco (Jalisco) in 1529

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Three ethnic catagories as depicted by Ethiopian artist. Asiatic, Abasha and Nilotic people.



Sorry for the small size....

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Malik Ambar India,Slave turned general, merchant,turned regent,turned king.
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African Merchants in China

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Portuguese Merchants In Benin

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Battle of Adwa

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Fon cloth appliqué inter African foreign depiction.
According to most sources I've read about this subject a large part of the avo (appliqués) of the Fon people of pre-colonial kingdom of Dahomey (Danxome) was depicting Fon warriors were depicted as red(cf.Suzanne Preston Blier 1995, 2001) as opposed as their neighbouring opponents, both being nevertheless dark-skinned Africans being indistinguishable from a foreign eye.
http://thenile.phpbb-host.com/sutra6872.php
By poster Arara Sabalu.

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Son of Taharqa Prince Ushankhuru in bondage, Assyrian

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Meeting of Chinese, Japanese and Dutch

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Chinese depictions of Europeans..(and Americans)

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African depiction of Europeans

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Africa
18th century Pendant (brass) of a Portuguese Horseman, Benin

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Portuguese captain and his black retainer (brass)


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Ivory salt cellar, Bini-Portuguese style, Nigeria

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This is an Indian carving, commissioned by Tipu Sultan of a tiger mauling an Englishman... something I know no-one hereabouts would wish to see replicated...

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No one in their right mind wants to see anyone mauled by a Tiger, but people who disrupt the forum on covert disinformation missions get no respect.

But lets keep this thread free of Bickering and fighting, Thank you for the image please post more as this is an interesting topic.

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African carvings of Queen Victoria:

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quote:
Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-:
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No one in their right mind wants to see anyone mauled by a Tiger, but people who disrupt the forum on covert disinformation missions get no respect.

But lets keep this thread free of Bickering and fighting, Thank you for the image please post more as this is an interesting topic.

You're welcome. That tiger carving is quite interesting. It contains a mechanism so that it makes a growling noise if you wind it up.
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This is another Indian one, of an Englishman who has come to a better understanding with the native wildlife...

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Suminokura red seal ship with foreigners. Kiyomizu-dera Ema painting

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Here is more from India..

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on the Left is Lord Dalhousie(James Andrew Broun Ramsay) according to Indian Traditional Art..

The man responsible for "Modernizing" India...More on Lord Dalhousie..

http://www.indhistory.com/dalhousie.html

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please contribute to my thread:

Topic: for veteran posters: post photos of AE artifacts you've never seen posted before

in Egyptology

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Nice, this thread is an eye-opener for me.
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Ya know what that makes of imperial Rome where that sort
of thing was just the first act morning games show warm-up?

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quote:
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No one in their right mind wants to see anyone mauled by a Tiger, but people who disrupt the forum on covert disinformation missions get no respect.

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This is an Indian carving, commissioned by Tipu Sultan of a tiger mauling an Englishman... something I know no-one hereabouts would wish to see replicated...

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Great thread!

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Portuguese Merchants In Benin

Wow, thanks Brada! I've been searching for examples of these after I heard them talked about in BBC's "Story of Africa" programme. Nice. [Smile] Are you aware of any others?
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Will try Sundjata I am sure there is,
Lioness I wanna broach your thread but it's a very difficult task E/S is how old? and tons of pics to wade through if you want be true to the spirit of the thread it will be a toughie .

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Edo culture, Benin Kingdom, Nigeria. Hip Pendant Depicting Portuguese Face, 1500s-1800s. Brass. The Metropolitan Museum of Art,  -

Nyau Chewa culture, Malawi. Mask of Elvis Presley, 1960s. Wood, paint, fiber, cotton fabric.

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Kongo culture, Democratic Republic of Congo. Figure of a European Missionary Reading to an African

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Thomas Ona Odulate (active 1900-1950, Yoruba culture, Nigerian). European Couple Walking the Dog, 1935-1955. Wood, paint.

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