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cassertides is virulently racist, I hesitate to mention his name but he tried to use the below article to make the argument that ''True'' Black Africans are recent. If something is true why does the the author place the word true in the below article in quotes: "true" as in "True" Black African? Then if you read below he is talking about pygmies as if the are ancestors of bantu but not "true" Black Africans. Anthropologists should stop using this word "true" because it is meaningless in these cases.
Cassertides tried to use the below article to prove that black Africans are not even indigenous to Africa. Even if the bantu West African type were relatively more recent, their ancestors the Mbuti (pygmies) are far older than any population out of Africa, some of the earliest human beings, and I think Frost would agree. Unfortunately he perpetuates this antiquated "true" nonsense.
The article below seems to be an unpublished article by Peter Frost, National Geographic writer, photographer, archaeologist, and independent scholar who has explored the Andes and Amazon for 35 years, and lived in Peru since 1987.

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Low Sex Ratios in Sub-Saharan Africa: An Adaptive Response to Generalized
Polygyny?


Peter Frost


Sex ratios at birth are low throughout sub-Saharan Africa (Romaniuk
1968:278-281, 334; van de Walle 1968:38-43). They are also low in African
diaspora populations from the West Indies (Visaria 1967), Britain (James
1984), Latin America (Feitosa & Krieger 1993), and the U.S. (Ciocco 1938;
Erickson 1976; Strandskov 1945; Teitelbaum 1970; Teitelbaum 1972). Between
Black and White Americans, the sex ratio difference remains significant even
when birth order, socioeconomic status, paternal age, and paternal education
are taken into account (Erickson 1976; Teitelbaum 1972).


Recent attempts to explain this phenomenon have focused on polygyny. A
study of seven different Kenyan ethnic groups has found significantly lower
sex ratios in the children of polygynous parents than in those of monogamous
parents (Whiting 1995). Whiting (1995) and Martin (1994) have suggested
that women bear more daughters when they experience less frequent sexual
intercourse, as appears to be the case in polygynous relationships.1 Low
African sex ratios may thus reflect the "generalized" polygyny (>20% of all
sexual unions) that prevails in 85% of sub-Saharan societies (Goody
1973:177-178).


Why would lower sex ratios be adaptive in a polygynous population? It may
be that more daughters are born to offset the "wife shortage" created by
polygyny. No such compensatory effect, however, has been found in non-human
polygynous species. Although the subordinate females in such species usually
bear more daughters, the dominant females bear more sons, so the overall sex
ratio remains more or less equal (Clutton-Brock & Iason 1986). Apparently,
the wasted reproductive potential of unmated males is allowed to go
underutilized because it is confined mainly to subordinate individuals with
limited reproductive value. The benefit of bearing a daughter does not
outweigh that of bearing a son-who may become a dominant male with better
chances of reproductive success.


In sub-Saharan Africa, however, polygynous individuals differ from
non-polygynous ones primarily in age and not reproductive quality:


Inequality between old and young men was general in African lineage systems.
While a young man might often work harder than his father or other elders,
access to wives was determined not by current earnings but by access to
prestige goods. The young man knew, however, that some day he would inherit
his father's wealth, take more wives, and assume authority over his sons in
turn.
(Curtin et al. 1978:160-161).


Young men had to put off marriage until they could save up enough to pay the
bridewealth (van den Berghe 1979:66). Young warriors were often completely
barred from marriage (Gluckman 1940:26; Whiting 1995:440). It was thus age,
and not lifetime reproductive value, that distinguished single males from
their married counterparts. In fact, because single males were younger and
could expect to live longer, they may actually have been worth more to a
prospective mate


Because polygyny leads to fewer available women and celibate young males,
natural selection would tend to compensate by lowering the sex ratio (i.e.,
more daughters, fewer sons). The actual mechanism seems to be a maternal
effect mediated by the frequency of sexual relations experienced by the
mother.


African Americans


How do we account, then, for low sex ratios in the African diaspora, notably
in the U.S.? Young African American males are not barred from sexual
relations, at least not as they are in traditional African societies.
Moreover, the evidence does not point to a maternal effect. A study of
mixed-race couples found that when the mother was white and the father
black, the sex ratio at birth was the same as for children born to two black
parents (Khoury et al 1984). This would seem to indicate a paternal effect,
possibly mediated by the proportion of Y-bearing sperm in the father's
semen.


Conceivably, the same selection pressures that produced one mechanism could
have produced another. Hence, the sex ratio may have initially compensated
for the effects of polygyny through a flexible mechanism; in this case, a
maternal effect mediated by coital frequency. If the polygyny rate remained
consistently high, natural selection would, over time, have also favored
heritable traits that lower the sex ratio.


Although it is notoriously difficult to raise or lower the sex ratio by
selective breeding, small but significant heritable differences have been
achieved in bulls, pigs, and albino rats (Clutton-Brock & Iason
1986:345-346; Watson 1992). Sustained selection, in the order of 25
generations, appears to be required (Watson 1992).


Evidence for Antiquity of Generalized Polygyny


For such selection to have taken place, generalized polygyny must have
prevailed among sub-Saharan Africans for a long time. Several lines of
evidence seem to bear this out.


Genetics. Sub-Saharan Africans display much lower Y chromosome/X chromosome
variability than do other populations, apparently because proportionately
fewer men have contributed to the sub-Saharan gene pool (Torroni et al.
1990; Spurdle et al. 1994; Scozzari et al. 1997).


Linguistics. Reconstruction of proto-Bantu, spoken approximately 3,000
years ago, has uncovered a specific term for "taking a second wife" (Polome
1977).


Physical anthropology. Over time, too many men competing for too few women
should favor the evolution of physical robustness. Such male-male
competition may be reflected in the increased sexual dimorphism of African
Americans for weight, chest size, arm girth, and leg girth (Todd & Lindala
1928; Wolff & Steggerda 1943). In contrast, a small, gracile, and almost
childlike body form characterizes Khoisans and Pygmies, the only sub-Saharan

populations to have a low incidence of polygyny.


Origins of Generalized polygyny in Sub-Saharan Africa


According to mtDNA and Y-chromosome dendrograms, Khoisans are the oldest
living population in sub-Saharan Africa, followed by Pygmies (Holden 1999;
Penny et al. 1995; Spurdle et al 1994; Watson et al. 1996). Only 6% of
males in one Khoisan people, the !Kung, practice polygny (Howell
1979:234-235). The sex ratio at birth, 105 males per 100 females, is
comparable to that of non-African populations (Howell 1979:247). Thus,
Africa's high polygyny rates and low sex ratios are probably not an
ancestral condition.


"True" Black Africans appear as a recent adaptive radiation in the above
dendrograms, apparently branching off from an ancestral Pygmy population-a
line of ancestry also indicated by osteological data (Coon 1962:651-656;
Watson et al. 1996). This radiation seems to have occurred somewhere in
West Africa. Before the Bantu expansion about 3,000 years ago, true Black
Africans were absent from the continent's central, eastern, and southern
regions (Cavalli-Sforza 1986:361-362; Oliver 1966). They were also absent
from the middle Nile until about 4,000 years ago, at which time they begin
to appear in paintings from Pharaonic Egypt and in skeletal remains from
Nubia (Junker 1921).


Murdock (1959:44, 64-68) attributes this expansion out of West Africa to
development of the Sudanic food complex some 6,000-7,000 years ago, near the
Niger's headwaters. There, a wide range of cultivated plants (sorghum,
pearl millet, cow pea, etc.) were developed independently of the Southwest
Asian food complex. Other authors, like Shaw (1980), postulate a larger
area of origin in West Africa. Full development of this complex seems to
have followed a long period of "proto-agriculture" during which
hunter-gatherers protected fields of wild grains and created clearings for
wild yams and oil palms (Davies 1968; Shaw 1980:111-114). Tending of wild
edible species is suggested by unusually abundant Canarium (pili nut) leaf
impressions from a southern Ghanaian site dated to 8000-9000 B.P. (Posnansky
1984:149). Some form of agriculture is also apparent in reconstructed words
of proto-Niger-Congo, probably spoken ca. 10,000 B.P. (Ehret 1984).


At first glance, a West African origin seems inconsistent with genetic
evidence for Black Africans and Pygmies sharing a common ancestor, since the
latter now live only in central Africa. It is likely, however, that they
once inhabited the entire rain forest zone, including the Guinea coast of
West Africa, as indicated by finds of Sangoan artifacts-widely considered to
be produced by ancestral Pygmies (Murdock 1959:48-49). Since Sangoan sites
are confined to the rain forest zone and attest to a hunting and gathering
lifestyle much like that of present-day Pygmies, the lineage from the Guinea
coast Sangoans to present-day Black Africans must have involved a number of
major physical and cultural changes.


>From the outset, this ancestral Guinea coast population may have tended
towards some reproductive isolation, and hence genetic differentiation,
because of the Dahomey Gap-a mosaic of savanna and woodland separating the
rain forest on the Guinea coast from that of central Africa. The thinning
of Africa's rain forests during the dry conditions of the last ice age may
have increased this partial isolation and, more importantly, made it easier
to manage food production from wild yams and oil palms (Maley 1995:45-46;
Posnansky 1984:150). Indicative of a shift in subsistence is the appearance
of hoe-like implements at Guinea coast sites as early as 12,000 B.P. (Stahl
1995:262). With the end of the ice age, the return of a less open forest
environment by 9000 B.P. may have compelled these proto-agriculturalists to
move out into mosaic environments to the north and east (Maley 1995:46;
Posnansky 1984:150). Such a migration may correspond to the breakup of
proto-Niger-Congo, estimated at 10,000 B.P. (Ehret 1984). The first to
branch off was proto-Mande (Blench 1984:128-129); its descendent languages
occupy an area centered on the Niger's headwaters-the same area that Murdock
sees as the cradle of Sudanic food crops.


The Sudanic food complex developed primarily out of female gathering and
only secondarily out of male hunting.2 It thus greatly enhanced women's
contribution to food provisioning, the corollary being a reduction in the
costs of polygyny to men (van den Berghe 1979:65). As polygyny became more
frequent, male-male competition would have increased for the shrinking pool
of potential mates, the result being an intensification of sexual selection
for larger, stronger, and more muscular males, as is the case in non-human
polygynous species.3


Such a scenario leaves surprisingly little time for the morphogenesis of
true Black Africans. The beginnings of proto-agriculture cannot be pushed
back much further than 12,000 B.P. A tall, clearly Negroid skeleton
(Asselar Man) has been dated to 6500 B.P. (Camp 1974:241; Coon

1962:649-650). This leaves a window of not much more than six thousand
years for the changes that differentiate Black Africans from Pygmies, i.e.,
a shift from a gracile, almost childlike body to a much more robust one,
with attendant increases in stature, weight, and muscle mass.


As development of the Sudanic food complex allowed these agriculturalists to
expand out of the mosaic environments and into the savanna, the ratio of
female to male participation in food provisioning should have declined. The
savanna is more demanding on women's time, particularly for collection of
water and firewood, so successful penetration of this environment would have
required greater male involvement in agriculture (Goody 1973:185-186). In
the savanna regions of Ghana, "women planted grain and helped with the
harvest, but they were not concerned with yam cultivation, and did not carry
out the many hoeing activities that were connected with cereal agriculture"-
yet surprisingly polygyny rates were as high as in the mosaic and rain
forest environments further south, a fact leading Goody (1973:185) to
conclude: "While hoe agriculture, female farming and polygyny are clearly
associated in a general way, there seems little evidence directly to connect
variations in rates of polygyny with differences in the role of women in
farming or in trade."


High rates of polygyny in Africa may thus reflect not so much existing
conditions as pre-existing ones whose adaptations have been maintained
through culture lag, notably the retention of a large sex difference in the
age of first marriage (Goody 1973:184-185). In addition, natural selection
may have favored an increased predisposition to polygyny that persists even
when the adaptive landscape has changed.

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Phil Rushton responding to Peter Frost's post on the low sex ratio (more
females) in Africa.


The value (once again) of not making theories for Africans separate from
the East Asian-European-African gradient. East Asians have a sex ratio
opposite (once again) to Europeans with more males, and not duie to the
Chinese one child policy because it is true in Japan and of east Asians
in the USA. So whatever the cause, it is not something specif to Africa
vs the rest of the world but is fine grained going from East Asia to
Europe to Africa.
r-K selection again? But I'm not sure how. More sex hormones in Africa
(they show the three way gradient). Just better food and economic
circumstances? (In other animals leading to more male births).
An interesting puzzle and lots of interesting data reviewed.

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From a casual glance I noticed he referenced Carleton S. Coon. Coon was an adamant supporter of segregation in America. Frost,being a cultural anthropologist, should have known the history of Coon's racist scholarship. Frost should have also known better since he is the authority of race relations from antiquity to the modern era.

If we are going to use osteological findings then he should use remains found in the Sahara and even pre-dyanstic Egypt such as the Badarian crania. I guess he does not take in account Dr. Keita's work either.

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quote:
Originally posted by ausar:
From a casual glance I noticed he referenced Carleton S. Coon. Coon was an adamant supporter of segregation in America. Frost,being a cultural anthropologist, should have known the history of Coon's racist scholarship. Frost should have also known better since he is the authority of race relations from antiquity to the modern era.

If we are going to use osteological findings then he should use remains found in the Sahara and even pre-dyanstic Egypt such as the Badarian crania. I guess he does not take in account Dr. Keita's work either.

you can probably find a mention of Coon in Keita's works
A mention of another person does not disqualify what is being said. don't casual glace, this article is short, thanks

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The article is fact. Sorry you don't agree with the science.

The negroid is only around 10,000 years old and is recent.

Capoids (bushmen) are the indigenous sub-saharan africans and blacks have been killing them for hundreds of years.

Even before europeans colonised sub-sahara africa, the blacks had committed acts of genocide against both the capoids and pygmies. Black africans also cook and eat the pygmies as reported to the UN. What a joke though that the afrocentrics online this forum claim pygmies and bushmen are their 'brothers'. LOL.

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I am not using Coon's racist past to invalidate the data cited by Frost. The problem is Frost is attempting to give credence to osteological data that is pretty much antiquidated to support the existence of ''true negriods'' and that these true negriods decend from populations such as pgymies. Keita does site Coon but does not give credence to his racial theories.

I am aware of the logical fallacy of poisoning the well which I tried my best to avoid. Coon's anthropological works seems slightly tinted by the mainstream racial thought in the sixties. This does not completely invalidate the data but definitely makes one cautious of citing it as authoritative. I am aware of the logical fallacy of poisioning the well which I tried my best to avoid. Coon's anthropological works seems slightly tinted by the mainstream racial thought in the sixties. This does not completely invalidate the data but definately makes one cautious of citing it as authoratative.

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Capoids (commonly known as Khoisan) are one of the major human races. They are today limited to southwestern Africa, especially in the vicinity of the Kalahari desert.

Capoids/Khoisan are now universally-recognized as completely distinct racial-category from Negroids.

Capoids/Khoisan are a nearly-extinct racial-stock. They are threatened with being completely subsumed into surrounding Negroid populations. after centuries of Bantu colonialism of their traditional homelands in southern Africa

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I am not using Coon's racist past to invalidate the data cited by Frost. The problem is Frost is attempting to give credence to osteological data that is pretty much antiquidated to support the existence of ''true negriods'' and that these true negriods decend from populations such as pgymies. Keita does site Coon but does not give credence to his racial theories.
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Capoids are physically distinct to Negroids. The Capoids have ''peppercorn'' hair, not the wooly afro type of the negro, secondly their skin shade is a bronze-yellow colour, not dark brown. They also have slanted eyes.

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