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http://www.isabs.hr/PDF/ISABS_2011_abstract_book_web.pdf

MITOCHONDRIAL N1A HAPLOGROUP IN SOUTH – EASTERN EUROPE – A
MATERNAL LEGACY FROM NEOLITHIC AND BEYOND
Havaš Auguštin D1, Jeran N1, Šarac J1, Šari�� T1, Kapovi�� M2, Grahovac B2,
Musta�� M3, Metspalu E4, Villems R4, Rudan P1
1Institute for Anthropological Research, Zagreb, Croatia; 2School of Medicine,
Rijeka; Croatia; 3Occupational Health Service, Zadar, Croatia; 4Institute of
Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Tartu and Estonian Biocentre, Tartu,
Estonia
dhavas@inantro.hr
It has been established, based on ancient DNA analysis of early Neolithic skeletons
from various Central - European sites, that the frequency of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup was 150 times more prevalent among first Neolithic farmers than in
contemporary European populations (only 0.2 %), suggesting that first Neolithic
farmers did not have strong impact on maternal genetic heritage of modern
Europeans. This Neolithic type of N1a haplogroup belong to European sub - branch
defined by control region 16147A variant. Here we present the influence of first
Neolithic farmers in Southern – Eastern Europe due to finding of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup in populations of Croatia and Adriatic Islands as well as Herzegovina,
and complete lack of this haplogroup among populations of Serbia, Macedonia,
Bosnia, Kosovo and Montenegro. We also present very interesting finding of even
more ancestral lineage of N1a haplogroup in Croatian mainland and on two
different Islands (Pag and Cres) belonging to African/South Asian branch
characterized by control region motif 16147G. This branch is more prevalent in
Arabian Peninsula and northern Africa and limitedly present also around Israel,
Iran, Turkey and Greece and it is very rare in any European populations. On the
Croatian island of Cres, this very unusual N1a lineage of the unknown origin has
been recorded. Due to the influence of genetic drift the prevalence of this lineage is
around 9.24% in total Island population. To the best of our knowledge this is the
most prevalent finding of this haplogroup in any investigated population so far.
Keywords: neolithic farmers, N1a haplogroup, mtDNA, South - Eastern Europe,
Croatian population

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http://www.isabs.hr/PDF/ISABS_2011_abstract_book_web.pdf

NOT SUBMITTED:

Richard Villems

"An attempt to place the Balkans on the canvas of genetic variation of West Eurasia and North Africa"

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Quote: suggesting that first Neolithic
farmers did not have strong impact on maternal genetic heritage of modern
Europeans.

How could they?
Modern Europeans are a completely new people from a different place - Central Asia!
When are they going to stop playing these games?

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Yes!!!! The only question that now remains is "what happened"?.

As you can see. Genetic testing is going on all over the world. We no longer have to rely on National Geographic and the like who control what is published.

Give Tut's skeleton to the Croatians they will tell you he is either E1b1b1, E1b1b or E1b1a.

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They may be lucky to hold on to Europe when this is all over.

Currently they are focusing on Neoltithic remains. They should also test Upper Paleolithic remains. If they really know where they came from.

Mike may have a point. Although I believe it is a combination of invasion and admixture.

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^We already know to an extent what happened, don't you pay attention?

As I wrote about years ago: the bigger question for Whites is - What WILL happen.

Western White institutions and researchers have been playing a dangerous game. In their efforts to misinform Blacks, they have also misinformed Whites. Today, almost every Western White person believes that they are native to Europe, and are related to the Greeks and Romans.

They think this, because that is what they have been taught! And they are incredibly committed to this concept of themselves. It is part of their fabric of being.

But the handwriting is on the wall - even the idiots at Stormfront have accepted that it is a lie, and as more Easterners continue to publish studies, the house of cards will continue to fall.

What happens to the psyche of the average White person, when the fraud is finally exposed and acknowledged?

My guess is that there will be an explosion of mental health issues and violence.

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quote:
Originally posted by Evergreen:
http://www.isabs.hr/PDF/ISABS_2011_abstract_book_web.pdf

MITOCHONDRIAL N1A HAPLOGROUP IN SOUTH – EASTERN EUROPE – A
MATERNAL LEGACY FROM NEOLITHIC AND BEYOND
Havaš Auguštin D1, Jeran N1, Šarac J1, Šari�� T1, Kapovi�� M2, Grahovac B2,
Musta�� M3, Metspalu E4, Villems R4, Rudan P1
1Institute for Anthropological Research, Zagreb, Croatia; 2School of Medicine,
Rijeka; Croatia; 3Occupational Health Service, Zadar, Croatia; 4Institute of
Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Tartu and Estonian Biocentre, Tartu,
Estonia
dhavas@inantro.hr
It has been established, based on ancient DNA analysis of early Neolithic skeletons
from various Central - European sites, that the frequency of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup was 150 times more prevalent among first Neolithic farmers than in
contemporary European populations (only 0.2 %), suggesting that first Neolithic
farmers did not have strong impact on maternal genetic heritage of modern
Europeans. This Neolithic type of N1a haplogroup belong to European sub - branch
defined by control region 16147A variant. Here we present the influence of first
Neolithic farmers in Southern – Eastern Europe due to finding of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup in populations of Croatia and Adriatic Islands as well as Herzegovina,
and complete lack of this haplogroup among populations of Serbia, Macedonia,
Bosnia, Kosovo and Montenegro. We also present very interesting finding of even
more ancestral lineage of N1a haplogroup in Croatian mainland and on two
different Islands (Pag and Cres) belonging to African/South Asian branch
characterized by control region motif 16147G. This branch is more prevalent in
Arabian Peninsula and northern Africa and limitedly present also around Israel,
Iran, Turkey and Greece and it is very rare in any European populations. On the
Croatian island of Cres, this very unusual N1a lineage of the unknown origin has
been recorded. Due to the influence of genetic drift the prevalence of this lineage is
around 9.24% in total Island population. To the best of our knowledge this is the
most prevalent finding of this haplogroup in any investigated population so far.
Keywords: neolithic farmers, N1a haplogroup, mtDNA, South - Eastern Europe,
Croatian population

Good work harvesting this data.
This tracks with Brace 2005 who found that the incoming
Neolithic had minor resemblance to modern EUropeans.
Notice how they treat "Eurasia" in some other
studies as a unified entity, but when it comes to
Africa continually split, slice and dice in an
attempt to maintain a stereotypical "sub-Saharan"
group. "North Africa" in many physical geography
textbooks also includes large parts of Chad, the Sudan,
Mali and Niger but these areas conveniently
disappear from "North Africa" in many studies, so
as to incorporate "North Africa" into an
"Eurasian" block. The "Human Geonome Project"
continues running the same game.

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Ha! Ha! Ha! Niiiice!! Speaking of. . . .

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


My guess is that there will be an explosion of mental health issues and violence.


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quote:
Originally posted by Evergreen:
http://www.isabs.hr/PDF/ISABS_2011_abstract_book_web.pdf

MITOCHONDRIAL N1A HAPLOGROUP IN SOUTH – EASTERN EUROPE – A
MATERNAL LEGACY FROM NEOLITHIC AND BEYOND
Havaš Auguštin D1, Jeran N1, Šarac J1, Šari�� T1, Kapovi�� M2, Grahovac B2,
Musta�� M3, Metspalu E4, Villems R4, Rudan P1
1Institute for Anthropological Research, Zagreb, Croatia; 2School of Medicine,
Rijeka; Croatia; 3Occupational Health Service, Zadar, Croatia; 4Institute of
Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Tartu and Estonian Biocentre, Tartu,
Estonia
dhavas@inantro.hr
It has been established, based on ancient DNA analysis of early Neolithic skeletons
from various Central - European sites, that the frequency of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup was 150 times more prevalent among first Neolithic farmers than in
contemporary European populations (only 0.2 %), suggesting that first Neolithic
farmers did not have strong impact on maternal genetic heritage of modern
Europeans. This Neolithic type of N1a haplogroup belong to European sub - branch
defined by control region 16147A variant. Here we present the influence of first
Neolithic farmers in Southern – Eastern Europe due to finding of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup in populations of Croatia and Adriatic Islands as well as Herzegovina,
and complete lack of this haplogroup among populations of Serbia, Macedonia,
Bosnia, Kosovo and Montenegro. We also present very interesting finding of even
more ancestral lineage of N1a haplogroup in Croatian mainland and on two
different Islands (Pag and Cres) belonging to African/South Asian branch
characterized by control region motif 16147G. This branch is more prevalent in
Arabian Peninsula and northern Africa and limitedly present also around Israel,
Iran, Turkey and Greece and it is very rare in any European populations. On the
Croatian island of Cres, this very unusual N1a lineage of the unknown origin has
been recorded. Due to the influence of genetic drift the prevalence of this lineage is
around 9.24% in total Island population. To the best of our knowledge this is the
most prevalent finding of this haplogroup in any investigated population so far.
Keywords: neolithic farmers, N1a haplogroup, mtDNA, South - Eastern Europe,
Croatian population

Finding that the neolithic carriers of N1 were Africans in not new. Last year I discussed this fact in my article on the spread hg N in europe:

http://olmec98.net/haplogroupN.pdf

Although I confirmed this fact a year ago. When I said it no one paid attention. But when a European says it , its a big deal.

Some of you guys are a trip. You only believe something when Massa says its so.

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^Actually Djehuti and others have long argued against
any "Eurasian" origin on N1.

quote:

Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on 23 March, 2011 10:07 PM:

One problem I have the article is that it claims the N clades present in Africa and Yemen are of Eurasian origins. Yet the type present in Africa--N1-- is only found in Africa, and N1a which is common in East Africa and nearby Yemen is found in very low frequencies anywhere else in Eurasia.

This is why I agree with Kivisild et al. that N1 like M1 should not be attributed to Eurasian origins.



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Clyde Winters

If you said this an year ago, then you deserve all the props and respect that was not given to you.

All I can say is that the Story is coming out, lies are breakingdown and TRUTH is standing the Test of Time. All we can do is hope these progressive Euros continue to discover and speak the truth to the people and they don't fall into the trap of covering up Truth to serve Euro is superior nonsense.

As an Truthseeker, this is an great day and I am Happy for this forum and Dr. Winters.

I also gree with Xyyman that Tut was E1b1b1, E1b1a etc. Truthseekers come in all shapes and sizes and Clyde Winters, and These European progressives are leading the charge, gotta love it.

Peace

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quote:
Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
^Actually Djehuti and others have long argued against
any "Eurasian" origin on N1.

quote:

Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on 23 March, 2011 10:07 PM:

One problem I have the article is that it claims the N clades present in Africa and Yemen are of Eurasian origins. Yet the type present in Africa--N1-- is only found in Africa, and N1a which is common in East Africa and nearby Yemen is found in very low frequencies anywhere else in Eurasia.

This is why I agree with Kivisild et al. that N1 like M1 should not be attributed to Eurasian origins.


This is untrue. I made the claim that N1 was of African origin 9 January 2008.

quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
We can assign a haplogroup to this population because of the examination of genetic material from this population. This genetic material makes it clear that most Cro-Magnons carried the N haplogroup.
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Science 11 November 2005:
Vol. 310. no. 5750, pp. 1016 - 1018
DOI: 10.1126/science.1118725 Prev | Table of Contents | Next

REPORTS
Ancient DNA from the First European Farmers in 7500-Year-Old Neolithic Sites
Wolfgang Haak,1* Peter Forster,2 Barbara Bramanti,1 Shuichi Matsumura,2 Guido Brandt,1 Marc Tänzer,1 Richard Villems,3 Colin Renfrew,2 Detlef Gronenborn,4 Kurt Werner Alt,1 Joachim Burger1
The ancestry of modern Europeans is a subject of debate among geneticists, archaeologists, and anthropologists. A crucial question is the extent to which Europeans are descended from the first European farmers in the Neolithic Age 7500 years ago or from Paleolithic hunter-gatherers who were present in Europe since 40,000 years ago. Here we present an analysis of ancient DNA from early European farmers. We successfully extracted and sequenced intact stretches of maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) from 24 out of 57 Neolithic skeletons from various locations in Germany, Austria, and Hungary. We found that 25% of the Neolithic farmers had one characteristic mtDNA type and that this type formerly was widespread among Neolithic farmers in Central Europe. Europeans today have a 150-times lower frequency (0.2%) of this mtDNA type, revealing that these first Neolithic farmers did not have a strong genetic influence on modern European female lineages. Our finding lends weight to a proposed Paleolithic ancestry for modern Europeans.
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This DNA found in the ancient Europeans was N1(a).

It appears to me that the Old Europeans may have been Africans. This is based on the reality that the haplogroup N1(a) is common to Senegambians, modern Ethiopians and the Dravidian speaking people of India (Richards et al, 2005; Toomas et al, 2004). Thus, the Old Europeans may be related to African cattle raising farming groups, originally from Africa and the Middle East who may have planted the seeds of agriculture in ancient Europe, especially descendants of the Natufians.

Cro-Magnon is another name for the Grimaldi people. The Cro-magnon people were tropically adapted or simply Negroes.

They belonged to the haplogroup N which is a branch of L3 branch. The N haplogroup spread from Africa to Europe.

Haplogroup N was found within Cro Magnon skeletons. This gives us physical evidence of this haplogroup in Europe. Lets look at Caramelli's statement:
quote:
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Specific mtDNA sites outside HVRI were also analyzed (by amplification, cloning, and sequencing of the surrounding region) to classify more precisely the ancient sequences within the phylogenetic network of present-time mtDNAs (35, 36). Paglicci-25 has the following motifs: +7,025 AluI, 00073A, 11719G, and 12308A. Therefore, this sequence belongs to either haplogroups HV or pre-HV, two haplogroups rare in general but with a comparatively high frequencies among today's Near-Easterners (35). Paglicci-12 shows the motifs 00073G, 10873C, 10238T, and AACC between nucleotide positions 10397 and 10400, which allows the classification of this sequence into the macrohaplogroupN,containing haplogroups W, X, I, N1a, N1b, N1c, and N*. Following the definition given in ref. 36, the presence of a single mutation in 16,223 within HRVI suggests a classification of Paglicci-12 into the haplogroup N*, which is observed today in several samples from the Near East and, at lower frequencies, in the Caucasus (35). It is difficult to say whether the apparent evolutionary relationship between Paglicci-25 and Paglicci-12 and those populations is more than a coincidence. Indeed, the haplogroups to which the Cro-Magnon type sequences appear to belong are rare among modern samples, and therefore their frequencies are poorly estimated. However, genetic affinities between the first anatomically modern Europeans and current populations of the Near East make sense in the light of the likely routes of Upper Paleolithic human expansions in Europe, as documented in the archaeological record (37).


http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/100/11/6593


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Carmelli specifically says: some of the Cro Magnon people belonged to the N group .




It is interesting to note that the DNA for the European farmers 7500 ybp was also haplogroup N1(a), which as noted by the researchers who conducted this research that contemporary Europeans do not have this gene.

The continuity of the N haplogroup from 24000-7500 BC makes it clear that Negroes were the dominant group in Europe up to this time.

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See:

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000045;p=1


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It is entirely possible that in the next hundred years, Whites will devolve into a race of babbling schizophrenics. Not because of anything Blacks did, but because of what they did to themselves.


Those seeking to abandon the lies.



MITOCHONDRIAL N1A HAPLOGROUP IN SOUTH – EASTERN EUROPE – A
MATERNAL LEGACY FROM NEOLITHIC AND BEYOND

Havaš Auguštin D1, Jeran N1, Šarac J1, Šari�� T1, Kapovi�� M2, Grahovac B2,
Musta�� M3, Metspalu E4, Villems R4, Rudan P1
1Institute for Anthropological Research, Zagreb, Croatia; 2School of Medicine,
Rijeka; Croatia; 3Occupational Health Service, Zadar, Croatia; 4Institute of
Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Tartu and Estonian Biocentre, Tartu,
Estonia
dhavas@inantro.hr

It has been established, based on ancient DNA analysis of early Neolithic skeletons
from various Central - European sites, that the frequency of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup was 150 times more prevalent among first Neolithic farmers than in
contemporary European populations (only 0.2 %), suggesting that first Neolithic
farmers did not have strong impact on maternal genetic heritage of modern
Europeans.
This Neolithic type of N1a haplogroup belong to European sub - branch
defined by control region 16147A variant. Here we present the influence of first
Neolithic farmers in Southern – Eastern Europe due to finding of N1a mtDNA
haplogroup in populations of Croatia and Adriatic Islands as well as Herzegovina,
and complete lack of this haplogroup among populations of Serbia, Macedonia,
Bosnia, Kosovo and Montenegro. We also present very interesting finding of even
more ancestral lineage of N1a haplogroup in Croatian mainland and on two
different Islands (Pag and Cres) belonging to African/South Asian branch
characterized by control region motif 16147G. This branch is more prevalent in
Arabian Peninsula and northern Africa and limitedly present also around Israel,
Iran, Turkey and Greece and it is very rare in any European populations. On the
Croatian island of Cres, this very unusual N1a lineage of the unknown origin has
been recorded. Due to the influence of genetic drift the prevalence of this lineage is
around 9.24% in total Island population. To the best of our knowledge this is the
most prevalent finding of this haplogroup in any investigated population so far.
Keywords: neolithic farmers, N1a haplogroup, mtDNA, South - Eastern Europe,
Croatian population.


Those seeking to perpetuate the lies.


GeneticArchaeology.com

Gene study sheds new light on origins of British men (8/27/2011)


New genetic evidence reveals that most British men are not descended from immigrant farmers who migrated east 5,000-10,000 years ago - contrary to previous research.

Instead, scientists from the Universities of Oxford and Edinburgh say that most European men can trace their lineage to people - most likely hunter-gatherers - who had settled in Europe long before that time.

The latest study, based on the most common genetic lineage in European males, aims to correct an analysis of genetic data, published last year. It had reported that most British men came from people who migrated west, with the spread of agriculture, from the Near East.

More than 100 million European men have a set of genes called R-M269, including about three-quarters of British men. A key question in understanding the peopling of Europe is when this group spread out across Europe.

Researchers say their work shows that the set of genes chosen to estimate the age of this group of men vary the outcome enormously. They add that the previously reported east-west pattern is not found in their larger and more comprehensive dataset. This, the Oxford - Edinburgh team says, leaves little evidence for a farmer-led dispersal of this major group.

According to Dr Cristian Capelli, the Oxford geneticist who led the research, the study "resets" the debate on the peopling of Europe. He says, "Our works overturns the recent claims of European Y chromosomes being brought into the continent by farmers."

Co-author, Dr Jim Wilson of the University of Edinburgh's Centre for Population Health Sciences, adds that the paper shows for the first time that certain properties of the genes studied strongly influence the accuracy of the date estimate.

"Estimating a date at which an ancestral lineage originated is an interesting application of genetics, but unfortunately it is beset with difficulties and it is very difficult to provide good dates. Many people assume that the more genes the more accurate the dates, but this is not the case: some genetic markers are more suited to dating than others."

The study also reports multiple subgroups of the R-M269 group that are very common in different parts of Europe, consistent with expansion of these different groups in each place.


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What is at once funny, and at the same time pathetic here: Is that long ago, is was firmly established the modern Britain's were an invading species of modern times (after the Romans left).

The human mind, especially the weak Albino mind, can only take so much of these completely opposed signals - before it breaks down.

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