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Slavery continued until 1945 when Nazi Germany was defeated and 10 million white slaves were liberated by the U.S. soldiers, many of whom were African Americans.

Do you still remember?

Do you still recall that until 1945 white people were captured, traded and sold by the Nazis, held in plantations and concentration camps, and exploited as slave labour.

Do you still recall?

There were white slaves in chain gangs all over Europe. Beaten, branded, whipped and often worked to death.

They were French men and women, Jews, and Slavs.

The Nazis never had one black slave, but they had 10 million white slaves doing everything from plantation work, to factory white; from domestics to field hands. Remember.

Muur to come!

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Lionese

What is your thought? I gather one of you is a descendant of a jewish slave of the Nazis?

I await your weighty ponderings on this matter.

As usual,

Lion, your best friend.

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No, I have relatives in Morocco that still have slaves. Not like chattel slavery or anything like that but its still unnerving. Its not a very comfortable place to visit considering this difference. There are also a lot of slaves in Arab countries. Basically indentured servants from the Phillipines,etc. They are treated poorly.

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quote:
Originally posted by osirion:
... Basically indentured servants from the Phillipines,etc. They are treated poorly.

Like that fool Djehuti, the filipeenos house boy in the state of Georgia, USA. [Big Grin]

Back to topic: Osirion, I don't believe plantation and/or factory slaves still exist in this world of today.

The white slaves of the Nazis were the last of that breed.

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have imagens?
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Iron, what your point we black folk are better than jews becuase the Nazi's like us better?


The Nazi racial agenda considered blacks inferior to the Aryan race, but in reality they were often overlooked due to their low numbers when it came to actual implementation of government action and policies towards them. As result, blacks were generally far better treated than Jews or Gypsies, and could live mostly somehow normal lives, including attending school and working.

Blacks became a target of Nazi eugenics by 1937, with many facing compulsory sterilization.
Others became the victims of human experimentation, assassination, or false imprisonment (including American citizens Valaida Snow and Josef Nassy), and some simply vanished. Black prisoners of war were sometimes killed outright or through the poor treatment they received in Nazi concentration or prisoner-of-war camps, while others were worked to death.

The treatment of blacks in Nazi Germany was generally indifferent. The black race was deemed inferior to the Aryan race, but there was no official government policy implemented towards blacks, unlike against, for example, Jews. The same was true for encounters with or against blacks by the Wehrmacht. When engaging blacks in a larger number for the first time, the German soldiers perceived them as extremely foreign. German propaganda depicted black soldiers as animal savages, leading to extreme prejudices against them by German soldiers. German commanders in higher ranks did not implement or ordered any special treatment for them, but spoiled by the concepts of the "race war", several massacres occurred against black POW's, especially in the 1940 campaign in France. European and American blacks were also interned in the Nazi concentration camp system. Lionel Romney, a sailor in the U.S. Merchant Marine, was imprisoned in the Mauthausen concentration camp. Jean Marcel Nicolas, a Haitian national, was incarcerated in the Buchenwald and Dora-Mittelbau concentration camps in Germany. Jean Voste, an African Belgian, was incarcerated in the Dachau concentration camp. Bayume Mohamed Hussein from Tanganyika (today Tanzania) died in the Sachsenhausen camp, near Berlin.
Black prisoners of war faced illegal incarceration and mistreatment at the hands of the Nazis, who did not uphold the regulations imposed by the Geneva Convention (international agreement on the conduct of war and the treatment of wounded and captured soldiers). Lieutenant Darwin Nichols, an African American pilot, was incarcerated in a Gestapo prison in Butzbach. Black soldiers of the American, French, and British armies were worked to death on construction projects or died as a result of mistreatment in concentration or prisoner-of-war camps. Others were never even incarcerated, but were instead immediately killed by the SS or Gestapo.
Some African American members of the U.S. Armed forces were liberators and witnesses to Nazi atrocities. The 761st Tank Battalion (an all-African American tank unit), attached to the 71st Infantry Division, U.S. Third Army, under the command of General George Patton, participated in the liberation of Gunskirchen, a subcamp of the Mauthausen concentration camp, in May 1945.




The Herero and Namaqua Genocide is considered to have been the first genocide of the 20th century. It took place between 1904 and 1907 in German South-West Africa (modern day Namibia), during the scramble for Africa. In fact, the Herero-Namaqua genocide was the first large-scale act of genocide in German South-West Africa,


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The Herero genocide has commanded the attention of historians who study complex issues of continuity between this event and the Nazi Holocaust,[88].
Some argue that the Herero genocide set a precedent in Imperial Germany to be later followed by Nazi Germany's establishment of death camps, such as the one at Auschwitz.[89][90]
Mahmood Mamdani argues that the links between the Holocaust and the Herero Genocide are beyond the execution of an annihilation policy and the establishment of concentration camps. Focusing on a written statement by General Trotha translated as:
“ I destroy the African tribes with streams of blood... Only following this cleansing can something new emerge, which will remain. ”
Mamdani takes note of the similarity between the aims and desires of the General and the Nazis. According to Mamdani in both cases there was a Social Darwinist notion of "cleansing" after which "something new" would "emerge".[78]
According to Benjamin Madley, the German experience in Namibia was a crucial precursor to Nazi colonialism and genocide. He argues that personal connections, literature, and public debates served as conduits for communicating colonialist and genocidal ideas and methods from the colony to Germany.
Tony Barta, honorary research associate at La Trobe University Melbourne, argues that Herero Genocide was an inspiration for Hitler for his war against Jews.
Ben Kiernan, a professor and director of the Genocide Studies Program at Yale University notes that besides Eugen Fischer also Franz Ritter von Epp, who was later responsible for liquidation of all Bavarian Jews and Roma as governor of Bavaria, took part in the genocide.
A census performed in 1905 revealed that 25,000 Herero remained in German South-West Africa.
According to the 1985 United Nations' Whitaker Report, the population of 80,000 Herero was reduced to 15,000 "starving refugees" between 1904 and 1907

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Duncey

You miss the point. We are discussing slavery here, not war prisoners.

We are discussing an official policy of delibrate enslavement of nations of white people by the Nazis. 10 million white slaves.

Nazi had no official policy of enslaving black people. Why? But they had an official policy of enslaving nations and nations of white people. Why?

We are trying to discover which nation of people was the last slaves and which nation of people was the last slavers.

Do you believe white jews like you and many slavs and french people were actually enslaved longer than black people?

Do you believe it was white on white slavery?

Your views Lionese, don't dodge the questions.

Lion

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quote:
Originally posted by malibudusul:
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http://www.poloniatoday.com/images/KIELCESLAVES.jpg

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Duncey

You miss the point. We are discussing slavery here. We are trying to discover which nation of people was the last slaves and which nation of people was the last slavers.

Do you believe white jews like you and many slavs and french people were actually enslaved longer than black people?

Do you believe it was white on white slavery?

Your views Lionese, don't dodge the questions.

Lion

Iron, you are the dunce. slavery has not ended. it quitly goes on
The number of slaves today remains as high as 12 million to 27 million.
Most are debt slaves, largely in South Asia, who are under debt bondage incurred by lenders, sometimes even for generations.Human trafficking is primarily for prostituting women and children into sex industries. It is the fastest growing criminal industry and is predicted to eventually outgrow drug trafficking.
Total annual revenues of traffickers were estimated in 2004 to range from US $5 billion to US $9 billion.Four women, who arrived in London from Nigeria as children, later reported conditions of enslavement to the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) as adults. In 2010, the MPS was ordered to pay damages to each of the women for failing to undertake an effective investigation. The MPS said in a statement that the way in which such crimes are investigated had changed significantly since the introduction of a unit dedicated to human trafficking and immigration offences.

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Nigerian woman facing jail after smuggling in baby boy to get a council house
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Peace Sandberg is facing jail for smuggling a baby boy into the UK from Nigeria
A Nigerian woman has been found guilty of illegally bringing a baby into Britain in what police believe is part of a growing phenomenon of people "child trafficking" for benefit fraud.
Peace Sandberg, 40, a housing official in London, brought the baby boy back from Nigeria in December 2006, apparently in a bid to qualify for priority housing.
Police believe she took the baby, then only a few months old, from a hospital and smuggled it into Britain although she claimed she "adopted" him after his mother died, according to the Guardian.
They fear the case is one of thousands where children are being smuggled into Britain by people hoping to exploit the benefits system, the paper claimed.
Senior detectives have apparently voiced concerns about the Crown Prosecution Service not being "bold enough" in pursuit of child trafficking cases.
Instead of using new, harsher laws, cases like Sandberg's are being treated as "facilitation" of illegal entry into Britain which is regarded as a less serious offence.
She claimed her cousin died soon after giving birth to the boy and that she had adopted him and brought him to the U.K. to give him a better life.
Up to £200 sent in advance was only to look after the child, she said.
A jury at Isleworth Crown Court in London was never told the housing officer, who denied facilitation, was a suspected child trafficker.
But under cross-examination, she told the court: "They [police] just came and arrested me and abducted the child and told me I had done it for benefit fraud. I asked them: 'What's your definition of trafficking?'"
The court heard a "distraught" Sandbery had arrived at the British consular office in Abuja with the baby and demanded a visa.
It is believed she went to Nigeria after losing her right to priority housing when her own child went to live with her ex-husband.
On the very day she returned to Britain with the baby, she went to Ealing borough council's homeless unit with him and declared he was her own son.
A local authority official told the Guardian: "After her other [child] left, she lost her priority need for housing. The only way she could retain her [status] was to obtain a child.
"When she appeared, we all thought 'How can someone acquire a baby just like that?'"
After she was found guilty, Sandberg was told by the judge that she should expect to be sent to prison.
The baby boy is currently in care.
Detective Inspector Gordon Valentine said: "I would think that child is never going to be back with its natural family - it is never going to know its real identity."
The conviction is the ninth for the Metropolitan Police's child trafficking unit since it was set-up three years ago but all have so far been for immigration offences rather than child trafficking.
Police are reportedly blaming poorly-worded legislation and a lack of interest by the CPS for the lack of trafficking prosecutions.
There has not been a single conviction under the legislation since it was introduced in 2004 other than for those where people were smuggled in for "sexual exploitation".
Christine Beddoe, who trains police in trafficking cases, told the Guardian: "The legislation is inadequate. The criminals are one step ahead."

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slavery has not ended
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www.freetheslaves.net

INTERNATIONAL ADVISOR:
Desmond M. Tutu

SLAVERY TODAY
Yes, we mean real slavery. People held against their will, forced to work and paid nothing.

Sometimes the slave holder ‘pays’ a few grains of rice to keep the slaves alive, or uses a bogus payment that the slave holder reclaims at the end of the month. But the end result is what slavery is today and has always been—one person controlling another and then forcing them to work.

Through Free the Slaves’ research, first published in Kevin Bales’ Disposable People, our conservative estimate is that there are 27 million people in slavery today. This means that there are more people in slavery today than at any other time in human history. Slavery has existed for thousands of years, but changes in the world’s economy and societies over the past 50 years have enabled a resurgence of slavery.

Three trends have contributed most to the rise of modern-slavery.

The first, a recent population explosion has tripled the number of people in the world, with most growth taking place in the developing world.
The second, rapid social and economic change, have displaced many to urban centers and their outskirts, where people have no ‘safety net’ and no job security.
The third, government corruption around the world, allows slavery to go unpunished, even though it is illegal everywhere.
In this way millions have become vulnerable to slave holders and human traffickers looking to profit through the theft of people’s lives. This new slavery has two prime characteristics: slaves today are cheap and they are disposable.



Cheap, Disposable People

An average slave in the American South in 1850 cost the equivalent of $40,000 in today’s money; today a slave costs an average of $90.
In 1850 it was difficult to capture a slave and then transport them to the US. Today, millions of economically and socially vulnerable people around the world are potential slaves.
This “supply” makes slaves today cheaper than they have ever been. Since they are so cheap, slaves are today are not considered a major investment worth maintaining. If slaves get sick, are injured, outlive their usefulness, or become troublesome to the slaveholder, they are dumped or killed. For most slave holders, actually legally ‘owning’ the slave is an inconvenience since they already exert total control over the individuals labor and profits. Who needs a legal document that could at some point be used against the slave holder? Today the slave holder cares more about these high profits than whether the holder and slave are of different ethnic backgrounds; in New Slavery, profit trumps skin color. Finally, new slavery is directly connected to the global economy. As in the past, most slaves are forced to work in agriculture, mining, and prostitution. From these sectors, their exploited labor flows into the global economy, and into our lives.



How does slavery affect us?

Since slavery feeds directly into the global economy, it makes sense that we would be concerned by the ways in which slavery flows into our homes through the products we buy and the investments we make. Slaves harvest cocoa in the Ivory Coast, make charcoal used to produce steel in Brazil, weave carpets in India—the list goes on. These products reach our stores and our homes. Click here to learn about what businesses and consumers can do to fight slavery in our products and investments.

In addition, there may be people held in slavery in your community. Slavery happens in nearly every country in the world, and the US and Europe are not immune. Research that Free the Slaves conducted with the University of California, Berkeley found documented cases of slavery and human trafficking in more than 90 cities across the United States. To learn about the warning signs of slavery and what you can do to combat slavery in your community, click here.

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Hehehe.. Duncey, this is all red herring.

Your response is not about slavery. It is about exploitation of labour. It could be child labour. It could be underpayment, but it ain't slavery.

The Holocaust

Listen, "we" white jews were hunted and caught like animals by the Nazis.

Then they took "us" to processing camps, where they sorted us out, some for medical experimentation, some for prostitution and some others for man power and labour.

Some were melted to dust in gaz camps, you forgot? Some were used to breed the Ashke-nazis, while others were hunted for sports.

10 million white people enslaved. 6 million of "us" white jewish slaves slain.

All of this happened in the year of our Lord 1945! 1945 and 10 million white slaves in so called white Europe? Waaaahooo!

When last did you find 10 million black slaves in Africa? Never!

Did the Nazis own 10 million black slaves? No, just 10 million jewish and slavic slaves.

Lionese, tell me something.

Why did the Nazis hate the jews so much that they wanted to enslave every last one of them.

Do you care answering my question?

Your friend

Lion!


Jewish slaves of the Nazi nation:

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White women slave chain-gang at work:

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Many were worked literally to death:

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Muur to come!

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Fritz Sauckel

The slave master of Europe:

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This man owned 10 million white slaves. This man could have answered the question on the whereabouts of 6 million missing jewish and slavic slaves.

Muur info coming on Frizt Sauckel....

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Iron what's your basic question?

not "what do you think of"

a real question

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You can read my questions over again or just keep playing dumb.

This is your chance to tell about the suffering of "us" white jews, and white slavics.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
You can read my questions over again or just keep playing dumb.

This is your chance to tell about the suffering of "us" white jews, and white slavics.

it's better to play dumb than to actually be dumb

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:

Do you still remember?

Do you still recall?

these kinds of dumb questions are not worth lioness' time
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The white slaves of Nazi Germany by Nehesy

Fritz Sauckel aka “Le Négrier De L’Europe” aka ” European Slave Trader” aka “El Negrero de Europea” enslaved millions of Europeans in German war industries, still they don’t write it in their history books .

According to a biography done on Fritz Sauckel … “In response to increased demands, he met the requirement for manpower with people from the occupied territories. Voluntary numbers were insufficient and forced recruitment (slave labour) was introduced within a few months. Of the 5 million workers brought to Germany, … the majority … originated from the Eastern territories, where the methods used to (gain workers) hunt and catch the slaves were reportedly very harsh.”

These slaves were freed only when Germany was invaded and freed by the allies (many delivered by Black American soldiers).

Used and abused by the Germans, some of those white slaves were whipped and beaten to death, many were branded especially if they tried to flee, some mutilated themselves (to stop the work = sabotage).

There were badly fed (lost 15-20 kgs), poorly housed, full of lice and diseases due to poor conditions, some were worked to death (literally hundreds of thousands), some were killed by the German overseers, and some deported to the concentration camps for human medical experimentation.

It reminds one of the slave system which oppressed our ancestors in the new world. Perhaps worse.

Fritz Sauckel and Nazis got these slaves by war :

- Some were prisoners of wars : Russians
- Some were hunted and caught by German soldiers:
- Some were sold as tributes by their countries. For example, French authorities delivered their own population (by official laws or decrees) to the Germans

The Nazis were the biggest slave owners of history ( 5 to 8 millions) , but their slaves were whites/Europeans (Russians, Polish, French, Italians, Ukrainians etc). It was a white on white slavery in the middle of 20th century almost 100 years after the abolition of enslavement of Africans. Yet those Europeans today dare to call us the savages who enslaved each other by internal war tribes LOL.

Fritz Sauckel was executed at Nuremberg because he supplied millions of white slaves to the German War Industry (also Farming Industry). When European slaves were producing the bombs, guns, ammo, planes, or food and cash crops in Germany, the German master could focuse on his war…

At Nuremberg they called this act “Crime against Humanity” , and the survivors were paid by the German government until their death. So Europe (England, Holland, France, Spain, Portugal etc) should do the same with our people who have been deported all over the New world.

But nonetheless, it is worth remembering that the last slaves of the 20th were also the so-called whites. With many French, Jewish survivors, telling that they were indeed true slaves in every sense and would have remained so for the rest of their lives if not for the African American soldiers of the US army that liberated them.

A little biography :

- José Antonio Saco
- Moses Finley
- William D Philips
- Charles Verlinden
- Pierre Dockès
- Marc Bloch
- George Duby
- Evariste Levi Provencal

See also

1. Ulrich Herbert : “Hitler’s Foreign Workers: Enforced Foreign Labor in Germany under the Third Reich ”

2. “A Mutual Responsibility and a Moral Obligation”: The Final Report on Germany’s Compensation Programs for Forced Labor and Other Personal ” by Gunter Saathoff, Michael Jansen ==> Compensation program for European slaves who worked in Germany during WWII

3. Video : STO (2010) by Jérôme Lambert and Philippe Picard (French)

4.Fritz Sauckel

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-white-slaves-of-nazi-germany-by-nehesy/

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Great text!
stupid white people
hate affirmative action.
you have
evidence of white,
not Jews, getting money?
I will seek.

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lioness, truthandrights and ironlion are the same person.
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
lioness, truthandrights and ironlion are the same person.

Not hardly...and I find that statement to be offensive... [Roll Eyes]
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@ Lioness-

I am aware of what the Germans did to the Herero people; although is only one book I presently own on the topic: Herero Heroes by Jan-Bart Gewald...and you will get no argument from me as to the existence of modern day slavery across the globe...particularly that of women and children....

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I have cousins that have slaves. It still exists in the West Sahara.

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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
lioness, truthandrights and ironlion are the same person.

Ms Molly the Swine

Pinkish cowardly cagot swine

How about your good friend, Horace "I know that guy" Campbell, you lousy fake-ass name dropper?
[Razz]

Caveat:

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and attack you..
Matthew 7:6
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quote:
Originally posted by TruthAndRights:
@ Lioness-

I am aware of what the Germans did to the Herero people; although is only one book I presently own on the topic: Herero Heroes by Jan-Bart Gewald...and you will get no argument from me as to the existence of modern day slavery across the globe...particularly that of women and children....

And did you know about how the wyte Germans enslaved the wyte French and wyte Slavics up to 1945, as part of an official state policy?

Did you know how the Russians re-enslaved almost 1 million Germans in Siberian slave camps until 1970?

Have you studied the ramifications, and the import of these events in the history of the enslavement of nations by nations?

If you have please give us your thoughts.

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quote:
Originally posted by osirion:
I have cousins that have slaves. It still exists in the West Sahara.

Osirion

Where did your Uncles catch their slaves?

Are they disadvantaged domestic servants or are they slaves in the sense of American south or the Nazi Germany?

We await your response

Thanks

Lion!

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Great text!
stupid white people
hate affirmative action.
you have
evidence of white,
not Jews, getting money?
I will seek.

Reparations for enslavement of wyte slaves:

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The total number of forced labourers under the Third Reich who were still alive as of August 1999 was 2.3 million.[2] The German Forced Labour Compensation Programme was established in 2000; a forced labour fund paid out more than 4.37 billion euros to close to 1.7 million of then-living victims around the world (one-off payments of between 2,500 to 7,500 euros).[26] Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel stated in 2007 that "Many former forced labourers have finally received the promised humanitarian aid"; she also conceded that before the fund was established nothing had gone directly to the forced labourers.[26] German president Horst Koehler stated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II
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quote:
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Fritz Sauckel

The slave master of Europe:

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This man owned 10 million white slaves. This man could have answered the question on the whereabouts of 6 million missing jewish and slavic slaves.

Muur info coming on Frizt Sauckel....

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Hitler's policy of Lebensraum strongly emphasized the conquest of new lands in the East, known as Generalplan Ost, and the exploitation of these lands to provide cheap goods and labour to Germany. Even before the war, Nazi Germany maintained a supply of slave labour. This practice started from the early days of labour camps of "undesirables
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The use of forced labour in Nazi Germany and throughout German-occupied Europe during World War II took place on an unprecedented scale.[1] It was a vital part of the German economic exploitation of conquered territories. It also contributed to the mass extermination of populations in German-occupied Europe. The Nazi Germans abducted approximately 12 million people from almost twenty European countries; about two thirds of whom came from the Eastern Europe.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II

Muurz to come [Cool]

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[Polish Slaves in The Netherlands, today]


http://www.plataan.nl/result_titel.asp?Id=3299

SLAVEN IN DE POLDER

The Dutch apparently never seesed to be slave traders and slave holders. Their newest slaves are blond, muscled Poles and dark Roemenians.
I spoke to them in Paris and also in The Hague. Very strange for me, a Surinamese, a descendent from Dutch slaves, to see them bowing and scraping everywhere. Just normal, educated, friendly young people but paied euro 1,50 where a Dutch worker would start with euro 10. And have listen how this is explained away to the public, they do not know how many there are. But they linked the work with living quarters, filthy trailors, back rooms, overcrowded. So no work, no bed, no back talk go back to Polen. They pay the employer for lodgings and food.

Go and see The Wistleblower how the young white, European women are traded and raped with metal pipes to break them down. This is just going on right now in every European town.

From the thousands of slave holders ONE female was brought to court: and this the government shows as how they prevent human traffic and slave labour. Because Holland is the first when it comes to Human rights and equality of women, we hear everyday.

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quote:
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I have cousins that have slaves. It still exists in the West Sahara.

Osirion

Where did your Uncles catch their slaves?

Are they disadvantaged domestic servants or are they slaves in the sense of American south or the Nazi Germany?

We await your response

Thanks

Lion!

I already said they aren't chattel slaves. They are bound by tradition. They are part of the family even though they are not related to us. They are darker with more tropical features than that part of my family (remember I am also part Niger/Fulbe). They are not treated badly, they are treated like they are part of the family. But still they are not truly free. Don't like the attitude of my cousins. Always feel like they think they are better than me because they are so called pure Berber Amazigh which is fine but they are also Haratin Black Moors but they don't admit it. They take offense at the idea.

Freaking class society with tribalism would be disappointing to most of you.

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Thanks Osirion, you just described caste system or class oppression.

This is not the type of enslavement practiced by the America slave owners or the Nazi slave owners just like you admitted.

I am trying to find out why a supposedly wyte nation, would make it an official policy to enslave another wyte nation on the basis that they are inferior people.

Nazis described the wyte jews as inferior and polluted. Nazis described the Slavics as sub-humans good only for exploitation through a slave system. Same for the Russians. Same for some French and Germans too.

This is the same Nazi who had official relations with India, and the Palestinians.

This is the same Nazis that considered African American sprinter Jesse Owens a hero.

Why was the Nazi guilty of wyte on wyte enslavement. Perhaps more than 20 million on my last count. 10 million they say is an underestimate of the figures.

Millions died. According to Lionese and his handlers, 6 million jews alone died. (That is if Lionese is believeable).

The Soviets claimed that 21 million Russians died in slave camps.

Thus, if we are going to talk about chattel slavery as a deliberate economic and political nation practice, then we must certainly be looking at the wyte jews, and the wyte christians as the last to have been freed. Not so?

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Because many Jews were the 1% and German Nazis were the 99%. You are seeing the ugly face of socialism starting in America as well.

The Tea Party is starting to look like a nice bunch of picnic going yuppies compared to the occupy this hood rats.

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It was not the Jews alone that were enslaved by the Nazis.

The Polish nation, the Serb nation, the Slavics of Russsia, and many French Christians were also enslaved.

Their status had been reduced to slavery for life. If not for the American troops many of whom were Afro-Americans:

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More than 60 years ago, Cecylia Ziobro Thibault moved to the United States after being freed from a Nazi labor camp by an American soldier -- "her angel," as she puts it.

It wasn't until the past few years that she decided it was time to tell her story about growing up with Nazi rule and put it in a book. She will be in Gwinnett over the weekend signing, discussing and reading from her novel, "Trapped in a Nightmare: The Story of an American Girl Growing Up in the Nazi Slave Labor Camps."

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"I decided to tell my story because people are saying that the Holocaust and World War II were myths, but I was there as a child," Thibault said. "I was very quiet for so many years. I didn't want to go into the details of my past."

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2011/nov/10/nazi-labor-camp-survivor-signing-books-in-gwinnett/


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Documents from Buchenwald concentration camp show that thousands of Hungarian-Jewish children were sent as slave labourers to the Nazi's "superweapons" complex at Mittelbau-Dora in the last months of the war; the children were valued for their ability to work in confined spaces.



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BMW and the White Slave Series:

The family that owns BMW has pledged nearly $7 million to memorialize forced laborers in Nazi Germany.

The Quandt family admitted in September to using slave labor during World War II.

An estimated 50,000 forced laborers, including Jews from Nazi concentration camps, worked in the factories of industrialist Guenther Quandt producing arms for the Nazis, according to a study commissioned by the family.

In August, Stefan Quandt reportedly visited a former Nazi forced labor camp in Berlin that had supplied workers to a factory owned by his grandfather, Guenther Quandt, and was impressed with its memorial center, according to the German language Bild-am-Sonntag newspaper.

The donation to the Berlin-Schoenefeld memorial center is Germany's largest from a private individual for historical purposes, the newspaper wrote.....

http://www.jta.org/news/article-print/2011/11/07/3090161/quandt-family-pledges-millions-to-memorialize-nazi-forced-laborers?TB_iframe=true&width=750&height=500

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quote:
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Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
lioness, truthandrights and ironlion are the same person.

Ms Molly the Swine

Pinkish cowardly cagot swine

How about your good friend, Horace "I know that guy" Campbell, you lousy fake-ass name dropper?
[Razz]

Caveat:

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and attack you..
Matthew 7:6
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you calling others fake. lol
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This is the same Nazi who had official relations with India, and the Palestinians.

and what were their relations with the jews, particularly the zionists? come on you fake ass "rastafarian" jew-in-hiding, lets hear it.
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^Bloody pink swine...

What about your drinking buddy, Horace "I know that guy" Campbell?

Are you still Jamaican, or something else today?

Fake ass liard!

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Slave Train:

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Dachau slave factory

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Khonstein slave electronics factory

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Polish Slave of the Nazis:

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
^Bloody pink swine...

What about your drinking buddy, Horace "I know that guy" Campbell?

Are you still Jamaican, or something else today?

Fake ass liard!

LOL! You Jews can't hide for long, there's always a litmus test to smoke you fools out.
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Nazis described the wyte jews as inferior and polluted... This is the same Nazi who had official relations with India, and the Palestinians.
Come on, tell us "iron lion", what were their relations with the Zionists? Why cant you answer? Or better, the Jewish industrialists who bank rolled their government. The Jewish soldiers in their army. Were they regarded as 'polluted' and inferior too? And how does all this sit well with your mainstream 'the-nazi-had-an-irrational-hatred-of-all-jews' narrative?

You 'rastafarian' Jew in disguise. lol

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^Swine!

Go look for another man to fuch you.

I ain't gay... Loser! Lol

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Lionese my dearest Duncey

Have you fled off? Come tell us what you know about the enslavement of your people. You always wax poetic about African slavery. Come tell us about Nazi enslavement of Eastern Europeans and Jews, right up to 1945.

Still waiting...

Lion!


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In general terms, the basic elements of the Nazi foreign labor policy consisted of mass deportation and mass enslavement. It was a policy of underfeeding and overworking foreign laborers, of subjecting them to every form of degradation and brutality. It was a policy which compelled foreign workers and prisoners of war to manufacture armaments and to engage in other operations of war directed against their own countries.

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It was, in short, a policy which constituted a flagrant violation of the laws of war and the laws of humanity. Fritz Sauckel and Albert Speer are principally responsible for the formulation of this policy and for its execution. Sauckel, the Nazi's Plenipotentiary General for Manpower, directed the recruitment, deportation, and allocation of foreign civilian labor. Sanctioning and directing the use of force as a means of recruitment, he was responsible for the mistreatment of the enslaved millions.
Sauckel  -

Speer  -

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Speer -- as Reichsminister for Armaments and Munitions, Director of the Organization Todt, and member of the Central Planning Board -- bears responsibility for the determination of the numbers of foreign slaves required by the German war machine, for the decision to recruit by force, and for the use and brutal treatment of foreign civilians and prisoners of war in the manufacture of armaments and munitions, in the construction of fortifications, and in active military operations.
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http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DOCSLA1.htm
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^Swine!

Go look for another man to fuch you.

I ain't gay... Loser! Lol

lol ^jew for life.

What about their relations with the Zionist federation of Germany?

What about their relations with the Jewish settlers they sent to Palestine with money and building materials?

What about their relations with the industrialist Jews that bank rolled their government?

What about their relations with their Jewish soldiers?

Answer and don't run like your sock-puppet lioness. lol

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
[QB] Lionese my dearest Duncey

Have you fled off? Come tell us what you know about the enslavement of your people. You always wax poetic about African slavery. Come tell us about Nazi enslavement of Eastern Europeans and Jews, right up to 1945.


I don't wax poetic about nothing. We went through hundreds of year of slavery. The first to give approve of it was the Holy Roman Empire.
The jews went through about 3-6 years of slave labor in WW2 but worse than that there were millions of them murdered but they also had pogroms against them and other abuses of them through the centuries, along with Muslims, example, the Spanish inquisition.
Our people were murdered also. happy now?
Slavery still exists in Sudan and Mauretania and all over the world

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Architects of white slave labour of the Nazis:

White on white slavery

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Speer:

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Speer knew when he made his demands on Sauckel that they would be supplied by foreign labourers serving under compulsion. He participated in conferences involving the extension of the slave labour programme for the purpose of satisfying his demands.
European slave of the Nazis:

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Speer also attended a conference in Hitler's headquarters on 4th January, 1944, at which the decision was made that Sauckel should obtain " at least 4 million new workers from occupied territories " in order to satisfy the demands for labour made by Speer, although Sauckel indicated that he could do this only with help from Himmler.
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Russian slaves of the Nazis:

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Thus, at the conference 10th-12th August, 1942, Sauckel was instructed to supply Speer with "a further million Russian labourers for the German armament industry up to and including October, 1942."
See:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/559185/Albert-Speer

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/JudgeSpeer.html

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
[QB] Lionese my dearest Duncey

Have you fled off? Come tell us what you know about the enslavement of your people. You always wax poetic about African slavery. Come tell us about Nazi enslavement of Eastern Europeans and Jews, right up to 1945.


I don't wax poetic about nothing. We went through hundreds of year of slavery. The first to give approve of it was the Holy Roman Empire.
The jews went through about 3-6 years of slave labor in WW2 but worse than that there were millions of them murdered but they also had pogroms against them and other abuses of them through the centuries, along with Muslims, example, the Spanish inquisition.
Our people were murdered also. happy now?
Slavery still exists in Sudan and Mauretania and all over the world

Duncey, you are talking about caste systems in Sudan and Mauritania not chattel or plantation slavery.

You are wrong again Duncey.

We, "Jews" are the original slaves and perpetual victims of wyte Europe. We have been enslaved and abused in Europe for hundreds of years. Where have you been all these while? We "Jews" have suffered several holocaust beginning from medieval France, to Italia, to Espagnola... pogroms! Each pogrom was followed by enslavement. We 'jews' have suffered more than any other European people.

Then there is your Slavic side. The original slaves of this earth hence they call us "Slavs". Are you forgetting our history? We have been in slavery since the beginning of time until we were set free in 1848 from the plantations and mines of Europe. We were re-enslaved shortly by the German and the Russian elites and only got our freedom finally in 1945.

Even the Africa Muurs traded freely in our flesh and blood on the Mediterranean sea, until 1790 when the Americans intervened and stopped that Mediterranean slave trade system.

There may have been slavery of Africans but us white people, we take the number one spot. We were the first slaves, and we were the last.

And they made shoes, handbags and lampshades from our milky white albus skin. Until 1945...

And today, they still slave us even in our homeland Europe. Just google white slavery and see.

How come you are sounding so hurt and resentful because I am telling our story? Why the passive aggression? Are you embarrassed or what?

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We whyte jews and slavs also rose from slave ancestry. The African Americans should know that story too...

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Lionese

Did Hitler slave us Jews, because we were the original slave traders in the flesh of white Europeans? Even today we Jews still make them Goyims receive their pay backs.

Here a twist to our narrative. The wyte European slaves of Jewish slavers:

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"The Jewish 'Slave trains moved across Europe from Germany to Verdun and finally to Moslem Spain" with enslaved humans that originated in "Bohemia, Moravia and remoter Slavic lands."
http://www.blacksandjews.com/CharsheeMcIntyreJews%26Slavery.html


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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:


We whyte jews and slavs also rose from slave ancestry. The African Americans should know that story too...

thanks for telling us about your story
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Hehehe...

Come on Dunce, let's talk about us "jews" and serbs and slavs, and Hungarians and Romanians and Polish...

Let's tell the world our story.

Are you shy or tongue-tied?

You are usually wonderful at narrating African American history even though you constantly get it all wrong.

Let's talk about us.. for us by us.. FUBU you know... LMBAO

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quote:
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lioness, truthandrights and ironlion are the same person.


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Move it up!

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