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Mike111
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Complete extracts from "The Dictionary of National Biography" (DNB) by Stephen Leslie 1832-1904:

http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Crests_2.htm

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Great job.
I'm reading.

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Super website

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It is incredible
Many have a nickname
"black"
White People is very
dishonest.
They are evil.
they
changed the history of the world.
usurpers

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Mike111
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^Defective Albinos trying to manufacture a bogus place in history for themselves, with lies.

That they were able to get away with it for so long, doesn't say much for us.

There is much more to come.

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What! [Eek!]
There's more?
What?
I'm curious!

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Mike111
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^They didn't just disappear you know. Don't you want to know what happened to them?
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Yes.
Genocide?

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Some might find this interesting, and it does serve as a benchmark for the descriptive terms.

(Scanning errors not corrected)

Volume 10

CHARLOTTE SOPHIA (1744-1818),
queen of George III, king of England, was
Wie youngest daughter of Charles Lewis,
brother of Frederic, third duke of Mecklen-
burg-Strelitz. When a young girl she was
so distressed ac the ravages of tne IVussian
troops on a relative's territory, that she wrote
a letter to their king bege^ing him to restrain
them. This letter found its way to England,
and is said to have done something to direct
the attention of the English court to her as
a suitable consort for George (Mahon, His-
tory of EngUiJid, iv. 331, 1846). The in-
quiries made resulted in a formal proposal,
which was accepted, and the princess set off
for England. The voyage from Cuxhaven to
Harwich took ten days, for the ship was de-
layed by contrary winds. Charlotte beguiled
the time by practising English tunes on the
harpsichord. On 7 Sept. 1761 she landed in
England. The next day she saw George for
the first time at St. James's. From that mo-
ment till the king's illness she said that she
never knew real sorrow. They were married
late that same evening. Their coronation
took place on 22 Sept. of that year Ta mi-
nute description is given in Richard Thom-
son's Faithful Account y &c., 1820). Iler ap-
pearance at this time is briefly described by
Horace Walpole: *She is not tall nor a
beauty. Pale and very thin; but looks sen-
sible and ffenteel. Her hair is darkish and
fine ; her forehead low, her nose very well,
except the nofitrik spreading too wide.

The mouth has the same fault, but her teeth are
good. She talks a great deal, and French
tolerably' {Letters, iii. 434). The records
of Charlotte's life are entirely of a domestic
nature. She was merely a la^ figure in the
numerous state pageants in which her position
obliged her to take part, and she had no in-
terest in nor influence over Ene^lish politics,
which she probably scarcely understood. The
king, though a devoted husband, never dis-
cussed affairs of stat« with her. She was a
woman of little ability, but she certainly
acted up to her own standard of duty. Court
life during this long reig^ was perfectly
decorous, and it must be added very dull
and colourless. Scandal could only say of
her that she was somewhat mean in money
matters ; but this was probably from early
training (the story of an intrigue with the Che-
valier d'Eon hardly requires serious mention.


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Impressive site and many contemporary comments and observations of their physical appearance as dark or black.

I'd bet that in a fair number of cases that contemporary coins would show royalty either black or blacker than many paintings shown above.

You guys better all save this page in your files. No telling when things will disappear forever from the net.

Thanks for this great research, Mike.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marc Washington:
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Impressive site and many contemporary comments and observations of their physical appearance as dark or black.

I'd bet that in a fair number of cases that contemporary coins would show royalty either black or blacker than many paintings shown above.

You guys better all save this page in your files. No telling when things will disappear forever from the net.

Thanks for this great research, Mike.

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Mike has done great research on Blacks in Europe I wish he would combine it all in an e-book. This would keep the information in an organized fashion for posterity.

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Mike, thanks for this remarkable research. My question is who wasn't black in ancient Britain? (If any)
My only problem is the title of this realhistory article. I wouldn't call this period "ancient" . It's Middle Ages and Renaissance. Somebody who did a search for ancient Britian would probably expecting to see something prior to the 5th century at least.

Also see:

Hogarth's blacks: images of blacks in eighteenth century English art
http://books.google.com/books?id=yV_GAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA134&lpg=PA134&dq=%22+Black

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http://www.amazon.com/Complexion-Race-Categories-Difference-Eighteenth-Century/dp/081223541X

The Complexion of Race: Categories of Difference in Eighteenth-Century British Culture (New Cultural Studies) [Hardcover]
Roxann Wheeler (Author)

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Clyde, good idea.
Mike
should
do a pdf version
to we download
all.
would be easier

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Queen Charlotte

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Mother of Queen Charlotte, Princess Elizabeth Albertine of Saxe-Hildburghausen
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"Father" of Chralotte, Duke Charles Louis Frederick of Mecklenburg
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(some brotherman qualities)



or was it Abram Gannibal, the Ethiopian "prince" her real father?
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The Real Charlotte ???
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I've read of Guy De Beauchamp before. Nobody really disputes his descriptions, its just that most people have no idea who he was. I take it the 'cur' in 'the black cur of Arden' means "dog." He was known as the "black dog of Arden."
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Wonderful research, you could die one day without knowing these amazing facts.

Thank you

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quote:
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or was it Abram Gannibal, the Ethiopian "prince" her real father?
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That's not Gannibal. As of today there's no authenticate portrait of Pushkin's famous patriarch.
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^^^who is it then?
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That's a very good question, in order to know that it's NOT Gannibal, he must know who it really is.
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I read its authenticity is disputed. I'm as curious as you. Who else could it be is a good question.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

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Mike, this is a white woman. Are you colour-blind?

Her geneaology has also been checked. Despite the alleged 'mulatto' face, she had no known black ancestors. Her face more looks like she had down syndrome.

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^Thanks Cass, gee, I don't know how I didn't notice that.
Never mind then, I take it all back.

Can I come over and play with your long flowing hair?

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