Iraqi activists sounded the bell over the killing of dozens of teenagers by religious police for having “emo” haircuts.
Activists told the Cairo-based al-Akhbar daily that at least 90 Iraqi teenagers with “emo” appearances have been stoned to death by the Moral Police in the country in the past month. The violent crackdown against “emo” Iraqi teenagers came after the Iraqi interior ministry declared them as “devil worshippers.”
“The ‘Emo phenomenon’ or devil worshiping is being probed by the Moral Police who have the approval to eliminate it as soon as possible since it’s detrimentally affecting the society and becoming a danger,” a statement by the Interior Ministry said.
“They wear strange, tight clothes that have pictures on them such as skulls and use stationery that are shaped as skulls. They also wear rings on their noses and tongues, and do other strange activities,” the statement added.
The statement said that Iraq’s Moral Police was granted approval by the Ministry of Education to enter Baghdad schools and pinpoint students with Western appearances.
The activists told the newspaper that a group of armed men dressed in civilian clothing led the teenagers to secluded areas a few days ago, stoned them to death, and then disposed their bodies in garbage dumpsters across the capital, Baghdad.
“First they throw concrete blocks at the boy’s arms, then at his legs, then the final blow is to his head, and if he is not dead by then, they start all over again,” one person who managed to escape told the daily. The exact death toll remains unclear, but Hana al-Bayaty of Brussels Tribunal, an NGO dealing with Iraqi issues, said the current figure ranges “between 90 and 100.”
Activists said that leaflets were distributed in Baghdad warning teenagers from donning the “emo” style, and in some regions, teenage homosexuals were killed by battering their heads also by concrete blocks. [
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Oh Fer FUKS SAKES when will this Sh!T end!! sometimes I think we humans deserve to go extinct Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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^Knock it off, this is nothing new or unusual. Theist Ass-holes all over the world, do this, or would do this, if they thought that they could get away with it. What, you think American "Tea Baggers" wouldn't if they could? Ignorant hate filled people need an outlet, turns out religion is perfect for their purpose. They get to do the most heinous of crimes against other people, and legitimize it by saying that it is Gods command, wish, desire, or whatever. But in any case, they are only doing Gods work.
Sounds pretty stupid when I say it, doesn't it? But how often have you heard a priest, preacher, or other "Holy" person, of great importance, voice the same thing, only framed differently? Once you start believing that people can talk to imaginary spirits, then you have set yourself up to believe whatever other imaginary nonsense these "Leaders" might want to tell you - like killing people who don't believe as they do, or people who won't accept their leadership.
Those who won't accept their leadership are of course the prime targets. Intelligent people understand that the true issue has always been - POWER.
You use and abuse those that believe/follow you. You kill those that don't.
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I know Mike but enough of these fukin bronze aged murder cults already,time to grow-up!!
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Iraqi activists sounded the bell over the killing of dozens of teenagers by religious police for having “emo” haircuts.
Activists told the Cairo-based al-Akhbar daily that at least 90 Iraqi teenagers with “emo” appearances have been stoned to death by the Moral Police in the country in the past month. The violent crackdown against “emo” Iraqi teenagers came after the Iraqi interior ministry declared them as “devil worshippers.”
“The ‘Emo phenomenon’ or devil worshiping is being probed by the Moral Police who have the approval to eliminate it as soon as possible since it’s detrimentally affecting the society and becoming a danger,” a statement by the Interior Ministry said.
“They wear strange, tight clothes that have pictures on them such as skulls and use stationery that are shaped as skulls. They also wear rings on their noses and tongues, and do other strange activities,” the statement added.
The statement said that Iraq’s Moral Police was granted approval by the Ministry of Education to enter Baghdad schools and pinpoint students with Western appearances.
The activists told the newspaper that a group of armed men dressed in civilian clothing led the teenagers to secluded areas a few days ago, stoned them to death, and then disposed their bodies in garbage dumpsters across the capital, Baghdad.
“First they throw concrete blocks at the boy’s arms, then at his legs, then the final blow is to his head, and if he is not dead by then, they start all over again,” one person who managed to escape told the daily. The exact death toll remains unclear, but Hana al-Bayaty of Brussels Tribunal, an NGO dealing with Iraqi issues, said the current figure ranges “between 90 and 100.”
Activists said that leaflets were distributed in Baghdad warning teenagers from donning the “emo” style, and in some regions, teenage homosexuals were killed by battering their heads also by concrete blocks. [
God help these children. God please protect these children and all of our children all over the world. God bless god bless god bless.
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I am sure the killers blasphemed with the usual "Allahu Akbar" as they slaughtered their victims. This is what happens when the imperialist U.S. invades secular--Iraq was secular under Saddam-nations destroys the government then encourages the religion crazies to crawl out from the woodwork. Same in Afghanistan and Libya.
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According to The New York Times, "he [Saddam] murdered as many as a million of his people, many with poison gas. He tortured, maimed and imprisoned countless more. His unprovoked invasion of Iran is estimated to have left another million people dead. His seizure of Kuwait threw the Middle East into crisis. More insidious, arguably, was the psychological damage he inflicted on his own land. Hussein created a nation of informants — friends on friends, circles within circles — making an entire population complicit in his rule".[8] Others have estimated 800,000 deaths caused by Saddam not counting the Iran-Iraq war.[9] Estimates as to the number of Iraqis executed by Saddam's regime vary from 300-500,000[10] to over 600,000,[11] estimates as to the number of Kurds he massacred vary from 70,000 to 300,000,[12] and estimates as to the number killed in the put-down of the 1991 rebellion vary from 60,000[13] to 200,000.[11] Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.[
Al-Anfal Campaign: In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. The campaign was mostly directed at Shiite kurds (Faili Kurds) who sided with Iranians during the Iraq-Iran War. The attacks resulted in the death of at least 50,000 (some reports estimate as many as 100,000 people), many of them women and children. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants, widespread use of chemical weapons including Sarin, mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands, the arbitrary imprisoning of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months in conditions of extreme deprivation, forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers after the demolition of their homes, and the wholesale destruction of nearly two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms and power stations. n June 1994, the Hussein regime in Iraq established severe penalties, including amputation, branding and the death penalty for criminal offenses such as theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion, while government members and Saddam's family members were immune from punishments ranging around these crimes.n June 1994, the Hussein regime in Iraq established severe penalties, including amputation, branding and the death penalty for criminal offenses such as theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion, while government members and Saddam's family members were immune from punishments ranging around these crimes.
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"According to the New York Times"? LOL squared. The usual Zion propaganda from Zion headquarters. Only fools and fanatics of the wrong stripe believe what the NY Times posts on sensitive matters.
The West used Saddam in the war against Iran and provided all the weapons the Iraqi regime needed. Maybe that's where the phony million comes from. There was a war with the secessionist Kurds during the war and the claim is made that Saddam gassed and killed them. Others claim that it was the Iranians. The U.S. has such a big reputation for mendacity and phony propaganda stories that any perceptive person would reject that shill NY Times piece out of hand.
But the incontrovertible fact is the U.S. has slaughtered more than 2 million Iraqis in its imperialist attacks on Iraq starting with Bush 1, through Clinton, to Bush 2, and now on to Obama.
But you evaded my point being that during Saddam's time Iraq was a secular society. Those "morals police" murderers would have been hung up and dried by Saddam and his cohorts.
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"According to the New York Times"? LOL squared. The usual Zion propaganda from Zion headquarters. Only fools and fanatics of the wrong stripe believe what the NY Times posts on sensitive matters.
The West used Saddam in the war against Iran and provided all the weapons the Iraqi regime needed. Maybe that's where the phony million comes from. There was a war with the secessionist Kurds during the war and the claim is made that Saddam gassed and killed them. Others claim that it was the Iranians. The U.S. has such a big reputation for mendacity and phony propaganda stories that any perceptive person would reject that shill NY Times piece out of hand.
But the incontrovertible fact is the U.S. has slaughtered more than 2 million Iraqis in its imperialist attacks on Iraq starting with Bush 1, through Clinton, to Bush 2, and now on to Obama.
But you evaded my point being that during Saddam's time Iraq was a secular society. Those "morals police" murderers would have been hung up and dried by Saddam and his cohorts.
look at the human rights record of Sadam Hussein prior to the U.S. invasion in order to compare human rights issues in somewhat secular Sadam Hussein's Iraq compared to what you say is a more religious Iraq of today. Forget the NYTimes if you want. Use your prefered sources on the human rights record of Sadam Hussein prior to U.S. invasions.
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Saddam's HR record during his time was much better than that of the U.S. which had slaughtered close to 4 million Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians, Panamanians,etc. during that time.
Point is that for Saddam to have a bad HR record during his tenure there would have been a virtual civil war in Iraq with the Shia and the Kurds openly fighting the regime. The Kurds didn't really press Saddam, so too the Shia. Only when the U.S. invaded and killed hundreds of thousands did the Shia-Kurd fault lines really come to the open.
Don't think Saddam's HR record was any worse than that of Turkey--a major U.S. ally and errand boy, and much, much better than that of Israel. Better too than that stone age head-chopping and woman-enslaving feudal despotism, Saudi Arabia--another major ally of the U.S.
LOL, the last place I would want to look for anything on Saddam is Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International--both stooge institutions and water carriers for U.S. imperialism.
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Seriously now. You are very naive--and maybe purposefully do.
Look, and compare the the Imperialist Rights Duo treatment of both sides in the Syrian imbroglio. All for the paid rebels on the U.S. and Western side and nothing for those defending the armed attacks and being killed in the process. The same in Pakistan and Afghanistan where those dealdly drones are routinely dropped--incinerating all in range: children, adults, goats, sheep, camels, etc. Same in Libya: nothing from these phony rights purveyors about the ongoing lynchings, rapes, beheadings, amputations of indigenous African Libyans. And Human Rights recently shelved a world poll on the "most inspiring human rights figure for 2011" after Gaddafi was winning by a landslide. They didn't even wait until the deadline. Finally, both institutions are headed by fanatical Zionists. Check it out.
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Seriously now. You are very naive--and maybe purposefully do.
Look, and compare the the Imperialist Rights Duo treatment of both sides in the Syrian imbroglio. All for the paid rebels on the U.S. and Western side and nothing for those defending the armed attacks and being killed in the process. The same in Pakistan and Afghanistan where those dealdly drones are routinely dropped--incinerating all in range: children, adults, goats, sheep, camels, etc. Same in Libya: nothing from these phony rights purveyors about the ongoing lynchings, rapes, beheadings, amputations of indigenous African Libyans. And Human Rights recently shelved a world poll on the "most inspiring human rights figure for 2011" after Gaddafi was winning by a landslide. They didn't even wait until the deadline. Finally, both institutions are headed by fanatical Zionists. Check it out.
I understand what your theorem is. You think that there is no point in looking into any human rights abuses anywhere in the world because the U.S. is the biggest human rights abuser. I did a post on abuses of blacks in Libya
Topic: Displaced black Libyans tell of beatings, expulsion at gunpoint
Update on article. Other sources say 14 killed rather than 90 but :
Reuters/msnbc
Iraqi teens stoned to death for wearing 'emo' clothes By msnbc.com staff and news services BAGHDAD -- At least 14 youths have been stoned to death in Baghdad in the past three weeks in what appears to be a campaign by Shiite militants against youths wearing Western-style "emo" clothes and haircuts, security and hospital sources say. Militants in Shiite neighborhoods where the stonings have taken place circulated lists on Saturday naming more youths targeted to be killed if they do not change the way they dress. The killings have taken place since Iraq's interior ministry drew attention to the "emo" subculture last month, labeling it "Satanism" and ordering a community police force to stamp it out. "Emo" is a genre of punk rock music that originated in the United States in the 1980s. Fans are known for their distinctive dress, often including tight jeans, T-shirts with logos and distinctive long or spiky haircuts. At least 14 bodies of youths have been brought to three hospitals in eastern Baghdad bearing signs of having been beaten to death with rocks or bricks, security and hospital sources told Reuters under condition they not be identified because they were not authorized to speak to the media. Nine bodies were brought to hospitals in Sadr City, a vast, poor Shiite neighborhood, three were brought to East Baghdad's main al-Kindi hospital and two were brought to the central morgue, medical sources said. Six other young people, including two girls, were wounded in beatings intended as warnings, the security sources said. "Last week I signed the death certificates of three of those young people, and the reason for death I wrote in my own hand was severe skull fractures," a doctor at al-Kindi hospital told Reuters. "A very powerful blow to the head caused these fractures which totally smashed the skull of the victim." Other sources put the"emo" death toll much higher. Hana al-Bayaty of Brussels Tribunal, a nongovernmental organization dealing with Iraqi issues, said the current figure ranges “between 90 and 100,” Arabic-language newspaper Al Arabiya reported on its website. A leaflet distributed in the Shiite Bayaa district of east Baghdad seen by Reuters on Saturday had 24 names of youths targeted for killing. "We strongly warn you, to all the obscene males and females, if you will not leave this filthy work within four days the punishment of God will descend upon you at the hand of the Mujahideen," the leaflet said. Another leaflet in Sadr City bore 20 names. "We are the Brigades of Anger. We warn you, if you do not get back to sanity and the right path, you will be killed," it said. In a statement last month the interior ministry said it was monitoring "the 'emo' phenomenon, or Satanism" which it said was spreading through schools, particularly among teenage girls. "They wear tight clothes that bear paintings of skulls, they use school implements with skulls and wear rings in their noses and tongues as well as other weird appearances," it said. After reports of the stonings circulated on Iraqi media, the interior ministry said this week that no murders on its files could be blamed on the reaction to "emo". "Many media have reported fabricated news reports about the so-called 'emo' phenomenon -- stories about tens of young people killed in various ways, including stoning," the ministry said in a statement on Thursday. "No murder case has been recorded with the interior ministry on so-called 'emo' grounds. All cases of murder recorded were for revenge, social and common criminal reasons." Clerics denounce killings Iraq's leading Shiite clerics have condemned the stonings. Abdul-Raheem al-Rikabi, Baghdad representative for Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric, Ali al-Sistani, called the killings "terrorist attacks." "Such a phenonomenon which has spread among young people should be tackled through dialogue and peaceful means and not through physical liquidation," Rikabi told Reuters. In a response to questions on his website on Saturday, Muqtada al-Sadr, a Shiite cleric whose followers dominate Sadr City, described "emo" youths as "crazy and fools," but said they should be dealt with only through the law. "They are a plague on Muslim society, and those responsible should eliminate them through legal means," he said. Abu Ali al-Rubaie, a leading Sadr aide in Sadr City, said the cleric's followers had nothing to do with the killings. "In this issue and in all such problems we always use peaceful and educational methods to correct any wrongdoings. We are not connected in any way to those groups allegedly responsibility for killing those young people." Another revered Iraqi cleric, Ayatollah Mohammed al-Yakoubi, said in a statement on Friday that the killings of “emo” teens in the country was exaggerated and aimed at tarnishing the image of those who are religious and have problems with the current government. “Media outlets have published some news on the killing of 'Emo' teenagers in Baghdad and other provinces but did not confirm the authenticity or the correctness of neither the news nor the numbers mentioned,” he said, according to Al Arabiya. In the years after the fall of Saddam Hussein, most of Baghdad's neighborhoods were under the firm grip of Sunni and Shiite religious militias which enforced strict dress code Today, the militias have largely disappeared, Baghdad is far more peaceful and many youths experiment with Western styles, although much of Iraqi society remains conservative. On the streets of Baghdad, people said they had heard of the killings through the media. Many expressed disapproval of the "emo" style, but said murder was no way to respond. "I saw them a couple weeks ago ... a bunch of girls, high-school aged, walking together, dressed in black. They had long black eye makeup and bracelets with skulls and chains on their handbags with skulls," said Abdullah, 31. "If they are close friends who have something in common, that's all right. If other things we hear about them are true, like sucking each other's blood or worshipping the devil, that is not accepted in our society. But I think this is just a trend to imitate the West." Reuters and msnbc.com staff contributed to this story.
quote:I understand what your theorem is. You think that there is no point in looking into any human rights abuses anywhere in the world because the U.S. is the biggest human rights abuser.
My theorem has been proven so many times before by others. QED.
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