Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (1500 – 1558) was the first European king to officially authorize slaves to be imported from Africa. 4,000 chattel African slaves were imported annually into New Spain, a number that steadily increased so that by the end of the 19th century, more than 5 million slaves had been brought from Africa to Spanish and Portuguese New World colonies.
Below is Marc Washington's claim that person who first gave official authorization to the Trans Atlantic Slave trade was black. This idea is also supported by Mike111 and Egmond Codfried who say that Europe was ruled by black people at this time. Apparently white people are off the hook for starting chattel slavery to Europe and the Americas. Wecome to "real history":
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Lioness, what is your point? It has been proven many times that Blacks "INVENTED" Slavery, Human Sacrifice etc.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness, what is your point? It has been proven many times that Blacks "INVENTED" Slavery, Human Sacrifice etc.
However it is very rare to hear anyone other than in this forum claim that the Trans Atlantic slave trade in particular was founded by blacks.
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However it is very rare to hear anyone other than in this forum claim that the Trans Atlantic slave trade in particular was founded by blacks.
FErdinand the Catholic, King of Aragon in 1520 authorized black slaves to be sent to the New World. See (Hugh Thomas, The Slave trade: the story of the Atlantic slave trade, 1440-1870.) Ferdinand was in place BEFORE Charles V. So how could Charles be "founder" of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade dumbass?
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: However it is very rare to hear anyone other than in this forum claim that the Trans Atlantic slave trade in particular was founded by blacks.
FErdinand the Catholic, King of Aragon in 1520 authorized black slaves to be sent to the New World. See (Hugh Thomas, The Slave trade: the story of the Atlantic slave trade, 1440-1870.) Ferdinand was in place BEFORE Charles V. So how could Charles be "founder" of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade dumbass?
splitting hairs, Charles V was the first to issue offical licences. Are we to take it that you agree with Marc, Mike and Egmond that the Holy Roman Empire was black, and these black kings Ferdinand and black king Charles V authorized the beginnings of Trans Atlantic Slave trade? I don't expect you to give a straight answer to this question. This stuff does more damage to black history than cassertides because it confuses people, malibudsul, one of the young victims. Go ahead, let this stuff ride, destroying all credibility.
in 1510, black slaves were transported to Spanish colonies with the permission of Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand (Ferdinand the Catholic) of Spain. At first, all Africans had to come from Portugal or Spain or had to be baptized in Africa before embarkation. The "Casa dos Escravos" in Lisbon (the government slave trade agency) sold more than 1,200 Negros between 1511 - 1513. Emperor of Austria and King of Spain, Charles V, granted licenses to his trusted and favorite courtiers to transport African slaves to the new world. In 1529 such a license was handed for the first time to a Dutchman (at that time Holland was a Spanish territory). No doubt that also at the beginning of the sixteenth century, slaves had been illegally transported directly from Africa to the New World colonies.
Ferdinand II of Aragon, The Catholic
Charles V, a painting done in his lifetime
^^^^BLACK HOLY ROMAN EMPERORS
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That's a lie and you see they are trying hard to hide his blackness look at the lips and jutting jaw..
But in the case of John Vl all kidding aside may very well have been touched by the tar brush not the first time I have heard of him having African connection
His mother was Portugese his father (Pedro III) was possibly African or of mixed race himself. He was the king of Portugal from 1816-1826. Laure Junot, wife of Napoleon's Marshall Junot who fought the Duke of Wellington at the battle of Trafalgar, had met John VI in person. She described him as having "Negro hair, an African nose, thick lips, and swarthy skin.
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Funny, the description doesn't seem to match the picture - how can that be???
Oh my, please don't tell me that the Albinos lie, and even make fake artifacts.
He,he,he.
His mother was Portugese his father (Pedro III) was possibly African or of mixed race himself. He was the king of Portugal from 1816-1826. Laure Junot, wife of Napoleon's Marshall Junot who fought the Duke of Wellington at the battle of Trafalgar, had met John VI in person. She described him as having "Negro hair, an African nose, thick lips, and swarthy skin.
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Since we are on the subject of the Portuguese:
Pedro Álvares Cabral (c. 1467 or 1468 – c. 1520) was a Portuguese noble, military commander, navigator and explorer regarded as the discoverer of Brazil. Cabral conducted the first substantial exploration of the northeast coast of South America and claimed it for Portugal. While details of Cabral's early life are sketchy, it is known that he came from a minor noble family and received a good education. He was appointed to head an expedition to India in 1500, following Vasco da Gama's newly opened route around Africa. The object of the undertaking was to return with valuable spices and to establish trade relations in India—bypassing the monopoly on the spice trade then in the hands of Arab, Turkish and Italian merchants.
His fleet of 13 ships sailed far into the western Atlantic Ocean, perhaps intentionally, where he made landfall on what he initially assumed to be a large island. As the new land was within the Portuguese sphere according to the Treaty of Tordesillas, Cabral claimed it for the Portuguese Crown. He explored the coast, realizing that the large land mass was probably a continent, and dispatched a ship to notify King Manuel I of the new territory. The continent was South America, and the land he had claimed for Portugal later came to be known as Brazil. The fleet reprovisioned and then turned eastward to resume the journey to India.
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Oh my, it seems the Albinos have disappointed me again. Apparently they "DO" routinely lie and create fake artifacts.
But what's even "MORE" disturbing, is that even when they "TRY" to tell the truth - they still can't help but lie - no way Cabral had hair like that, they still Whitenized him.
That's truly degenerate and "PATHOLOGICAL" lying. (Pathology is the precise study and diagnosis of disease).
Sad, sad, creatures, those Albinos.
Lioness please help me make sense of your degenerate kind.
He,he,he.
Pedro Álvares Cabral(1468-1520)
Pedro Álvares Cabral (c. 1467 or 1468 – c. 1520) was a Portuguese noble, military commander, navigator and explorer regarded as the discoverer of Brazil. Cabral conducted the first substantial exploration of the northeast coast of South America and claimed it for Portugal. While details of Cabral's early life are sketchy, it is known that he came from a minor noble family and received a good education. He was appointed to head an expedition to India in 1500, following Vasco da Gama's newly opened route around Africa. The object of the undertaking was to return with valuable spices and to establish trade relations in India—bypassing the monopoly on the spice trade then in the hands of Arab, Turkish and Italian merchants.
His fleet of 13 ships sailed far into the western Atlantic Ocean, perhaps intentionally, where he made landfall on what he initially assumed to be a large island. As the new land was within the Portuguese sphere according to the Treaty of Tordesillas, Cabral claimed it for the Portuguese Crown. He explored the coast, realizing that the large land mass was probably a continent, and dispatched a ship to notify King Manuel I of the new territory. The continent was South America, and the land he had claimed for Portugal later came to be known as Brazil. The fleet reprovisioned and then turned eastward to resume the journey to India.
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Francisco Ge Acaiaba of Montezuma, [1] first and only Viscount Jequitinhonha, [2] ( Salvador , on March 23 of 1794 - Rio de Janeiro , February 15 of 1870 ) was a lawyer , jurist and politician Brazil .
Great Man.
"A new country, a new name
Proclaimed independence, leaving the baptismal name, going to be called Ge Francisco Acayaba of Montezuma - the name thus incorporating all the elements that form the Brazilian nation, and a tribute to the Aztec emperor Montezuma (Ge, currently written with " J " designates the Brazilian Indians non-trunk language Tupi-Guarani , Acayaba currently written with " I "word of African origin).
As a reward for their participation in the struggles, the Emperor D. Pedro I granted him the title of Baron de Cachoeira, refusing it, but accepting to be awarded a Commander of the Imperial Order of the Cross . "
"became the first deputy of the Brazilian history to fight against the slave trade , and therefore one of the pioneers of the movement abolitionist - an idea that defended with vigor, even if it was illegal then."
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Now that lioness has been run-off by the truth, perhaps now we can get back to the thread subject - Slavery.
There can be no doubt that Blacks invented the institution of slavery, because Blacks were the first to create "Walled Cities" which were essential for creating a need for slaves, and provide the only real means of keeping a Slave from running away.
But as with everything else, once the Albinos got involved as masters, instead of as Slaves, the institution of slavery took a very UN-human turn.
TRACING SLAVERY:
Sumer - circa 4000 B.C.
It was during this period that the abandonment of the open villages began. The continual threat of raids by other villages, nomads and others who were coming into the area, forced villagers to seek the protection afforded by building ever larger cities surrounded by defensive walls, as a result the size of the cities swelled.
The increased interaction among people brought about an increase in innovation affecting architecture, agriculture, and engineering. However, without a doubt the most important development of this period was writing. This was a slow process that began about 4000 B.C. The initial foray into writing was for accounting purposes, as merchants needed a system to detail transactions. Writing developed from the use of small three-dimensional tokens, which were pressed into clay. These pictographs were used to represent wheat, sheep, etc. It was not long, however, before the limitations of pictographs became apparent and phonetics began to develop. The result was cuneiform.
Within a few centuries the Sumerians had built up a society based in city-states like: Kish, Uruk (in the Bible, Erech), Ur, Sippar, Akshak, Larak, Nippur, Adab, Umma, Lagash, Bad-tibira, Larsa and others. Each of these City-states was comprised of a walled city and its surrounding villages and land. Each worshiped its own deity, whose temple was the central structure of the city. Political power originally belonged to the citizens. As rivalry and wars between the various city-states increased, each adopted the institution of kingship, so as to have ready and permanent leadership when crisis arose.
At this time, Bronze weapons of war began to be manufactured in increasing quantities. The first written records of slavery, and captives taken in battle begin to appear. The surplus of food allowed the creation of specialist occupations, such as soldier, architect, scribe, bronze casters, potters, stonemasons, weavers etc.
The constant state of war also gave rise to kingship becoming a permanent fixture. In year’s prior, an individual was chosen to be lugal (big man) in times of crisis and held the post only for the duration of the emergency. With the constant state of war however, the position became permanent. The early kings claimed divinity with the gods in an effort to legitimize and thus retain their kingship. They also assumed the duties of ensuring good relations with the gods, plentiful harvests, and economic stability. A large retinue of retainers helped the king to hold on to his position. These retainers were controlled by the king and were used as soldiers and builders of public works, such as canals, temple building, and etcetera.
WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF SLAVERY AS PRACTICED BY BLACKS?
Gudea - The building of Ning̃irsu's temple (cylinders A and B) Gudea - He is wise, and able too to realise things. The ruler gave instructions to his city as to one man. The land of Lagaš became of one accord for him, like children of one mother. He opened manacles, removed fetters; established ……, rejected legal complaints, and locked up (?) those guilty of capital offences (instead of executing them).
He undid the tongue of the goad and the whip, replacing them with wool from lamb-bearing sheep. No mother shouted at her child. No child answered its mother back. No slave who …… was hit on the head by his master, no misbehaving slave girl was slapped on the face by her mistress. Nobody could make the ruler building the E-ninnu, Gudea, let fall a chance utterance. The ruler cleansed the city, he let purifying fire loose over it. He expelled the persons ritually unclean, unpleasant to look at, and …… from the city.
Preamble to King HAMMURABI'S code of Laws.
The sublime prince, who makes the face of Ninni shine; who presents holy meals to the divinity of Nin-a-zu, who cared for its inhabitants in their need, provided a portion for them in Babylon in peace; the shepherd of the oppressed and of the slaves; whose deeds find favor before Anunit, who provided for Anunit in the temple of Dumash in the suburb of Agade; who recognizes the right, who rules by law; who gave back to the city of Ashur its protecting god; who let the name of Ishtar of Nineveh remain in E-mish-mish; the Sublime, who humbles himself before the great gods; successor of Sumula-il; the mighty son of Sin-muballit; the royal scion of Eternity; the mighty monarch, the sun of Babylon, whose rays shed light over the land of Sumer and Akkad; the king, obeyed by the four quarters of the world; Beloved of Ninni, am I. When Marduk sent me to rule over men, to give the protection of right to the land, I did right and righteousness in . . . , and brought about the well-being of the oppressed.
EGYPT
('Book of the Dead,' chapter 125)
8. I have not domineered over slaves.
12. I have not caused harm to be done to the slave by his master.
FROM THE BOOK OF THE DEAD: The declaration of innocense.
I have not daily made labor in excess of what is due to be done for me; my name has not reached the offices of those who control slaves; I have not slandered a servant to his master; I have not caused pain; I have not made hungry; I have not made to weep; I have not killed; I have not commanded to kill; I have not made suffering for anyone. I am pure, pure, pure.
The Great Edict of Horemheb
When the officers of the Pharaoh's house of offerings have gone about tax-collecting in the towns, to take [katha-plant], [they have seized the slaves of the people, and kept them at work] for 6 days or 7 days, without one's being able to depart from them afar, so that it was an excessive detention indeed. It shall be done likewise against them.
First Intermediate Period
He who possessed no property is now a man of wealth. The poor man is full of joy. Every town says: let us suppress the powerful among us. He who had no yoke of oxen is now the possessor of a herd. The possessors of robes are now in rags. Gold and lapis lazuli, silver and turquoise are fastened on the necks of female slaves. All female slaves are free with their tongues. When their mistress speaks it is irksome to the servants. The children of princes are dashed against the walls.
OBVIOUSLY, THE BLACK MANS CONCEPT OF SLAVERY WAS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THAT PRACTICED BY THE DISEASED ALBINOS.
Religiously, the pattern holds true. The Hebrew religion, as bastardized by the Albinos, contains 450 references to Servants (in this case, a euphemism for Slaves). Many references to Servants running away - Servants don't run away, why would they need to? Slaves run away.
However, the only PURE Black religion, still known about - Zoroastrianism: is quite clear in it's stance on Slavery.
Zoroastrianism is founded on three elements: good reflection, good words, and good deed.
Regarding truthfulness of ancient Persians, Herodotus writes in section 136 of the first book:
“The Persian boys are thought three things, between five to twenty years of age: horsemanship, shooting, and truthfulness.”
In section 138, Herodotus continues:
“Persians do not use harsh words and to them lying is considered the worst sin. Next to lying is borrowing money. Because, when a person is debtor, sometimes he is compelled to tell lie.”
A very interesting point in zoroastrianism is that “good thought” is the source of human behavior and at the same time it is subject to culture. Therefore, if any of the Zarathustra’s sayings is against the current knowledge of the people, they are allowed to ignore it.
According to the historical documents and the surveys of writers, any of the Zarathustra’s principles are confirmed by contemporary ethics, while the other religions have not dealt with them. As an example:
1. Equality between men and women are frequently mentioned in Gatha and we know that in the Persian history, women such as “Pourandokht,” has been reigning in Persia. It is interesting that in 1944, following a long discussion, the United Nations in its latest session at Ghahereh, finally came to the conclusion that the only solution of birth control is the equality of men and women.
2. Cleanliness of water, land, air, and fire is one of the chief characteristics of zoroastrianism and particularly, Herodotus has alluded to the cleanliness of running water in section 138 of his first book in the ancient Persia.
3. There is no mention of the inhumane theory and practice of slavery in zoroastrianism.
4. Another praiseworthy doctrine of Zoroastrians, which is frequently mentioned in Gatha, is denunciation of laziness. Laziness and taking advantage of the products of others toils is strongly reproached as the act of oppression. Everybody should take it upon himself/herself to relieve the oppressed people from exploitation by others. Everybody should subsist by the fruits of his/her own labor.
5. Idolatry, litholatry, and human made places of worship are reproached in zoroastrianism. “God’s house,” cannot be made by human beings with mud and stone, it is the soul and heart of them.
6. In Zoroastrianism not only oppression toward human beings is strongly condemned; Gatha frequently reproaches cruelty against animals. Sacrifice of animals by human beings is considered the criminality of mankind against animals.
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quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Black Brazilian abolitionist
Francisco Ge Acaiaba of Montezuma, [1] first and only Viscount Jequitinhonha, [2] ( Salvador , on March 23 of 1794 - Rio de Janeiro , February 15 of 1870 ) was a lawyer , jurist and politician Brazil .
Great Man.
"A new country, a new name
Proclaimed independence, leaving the baptismal name, going to be called Ge Francisco Acayaba of Montezuma - the name thus incorporating all the elements that form the Brazilian nation, and a tribute to the Aztec emperor Montezuma (Ge, currently written with " J " designates the Brazilian Indians non-trunk language Tupi-Guarani , Acayaba currently written with " I "word of African origin).
As a reward for their participation in the struggles, the Emperor D. Pedro I granted him the title of Baron de Cachoeira, refusing it, but accepting to be awarded a Commander of the Imperial Order of the Cross . "
"became the first deputy of the Brazilian history to fight against the slave trade , and therefore one of the pioneers of the movement abolitionist - an idea that defended with vigor, even if it was illegal then."
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A correction. He was an activist for independence of Bahia (a state in Brazil) He adopted the name Francisco Ge Acaiaba of Montezuma after independence of Brazil
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"Know the suspect from the reporters of VEJA (magazine), but I had never heard the melody is very similar to just be coincidence. We know that the priest Jose Mauricio was a very able composer, recognized outside the country, perhaps even more than here (Brazil). And Francisco Manuel da Silva, which is important that we have, besides the National Anthem? If it is him! Thank you, hugs!"
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notice how Mike Marc and Egmond avoid the big problem with these Holy Roman Emperors, 15th and 16th century European chattel slavery, perhaps 12 to 13 million imported into the Caribbean and South and Central America.
Portugal and Spain established the first American colonies, they first introduced Africans as a labor source in the New World. It was sugar that first made slavery important and Caribbean sugar islands became enormously important. The European countries which conquered native American civilizations in the 16th century enslaved millions in Brazil and South America to work in mines and the tremendously profitable sugar plantations. The conditions were so brutal and European disesases so virlulent that native American populations were descimated. The Spanish and Portuguese turned to Africans. Millions of Africans were transported across the Atlantic and sold into slavery in the Americas. Slavery in earlier epochs had no racial connotations. With the growth of the African slave trade, slavery in the Western mind became associated with race as with the collapse of Native American populations, it was Africans who were enslaved in huge numbers. European Christian who would not have tolerated the enslavement of other Europeans found little objection to enslaving black Africans.
Thus when Portugal and Spain established the first American colonies, they first introduced Africans as a labor source in the New World. Both encountered difficulties turning the native American people into a slave labor force. The Spanish were more successful as they encountered the settled agraian societies of the Andes and central Mexico. The Spanish engaged in a debate concerning the humanity of the Native Americans. The Native Americans were in the end turned into serfs with a status similar to slavery. Actual slavery, however, became the lot of the Africans imported from Africa. The democraphics of Latin America shows the dichotomy. Spanish colonies where the Native Americans were reduced to serfdom have small black populations. Countries where the Native Americans were killed off, such as Brazil and the Cariibean, have substantial black populations. Caribbean Sugar Islands
It was sugar that first made slavery important and Caribbean sugar islands became enormously important. The Spanish arrived first and decimated the Native Ameican population on first Hispsniola and then Puerto Rio and Cuba. They thus began inporting captive Africans. The Portuguese at first dominasted the slave trade. This changed as the Dutch, French, and English also began setting up West African African trading posts and entered the slave trade. They also began seizing the Spaniush colonies (Jamaica and western Hispsniola--Haiti). The countries view for control of the smaller islsands. As the sugar economies developed, a massive demnd for slaves was created. Haiti became enormously valuable to France. And even small islands were extrodinarily valuable. On islsands like Barbados virua;;y all the available land was conveted into sugar cane plantations. And ther vpopulstions of these island became primarily enslaved Africans. Slavery by any definition involves brutality. But the slave system on the sugar islsands was especially brutal. Brazil
Brazil had the largest slave population in the world, substantially larger than the United States. The Portuguese who settled Brazil needed labor to work the large estates and mines in their new Brazilian colony. They turned to slavery which became central to the colonial economy. It was particularly important in the mining and sugar cane sectors. Slavery was also the mainstay in the Caribbean islands with economies centered on sugar. Estimates suggest that about 35 percent of captured Africans involved in the Atlantic slave trade were transported to Brazil. Estimates suggest that more than 3 million Africans reached Brazil, although precise numbers do not exist. Brazil had begun to turn to slavery in the 15th century as explorers began moving along the coast of Africa. With the discovery of the Americas, the Portuguese attempted to enslave the Native American population as well. This did not prove successful. The Native Americans died in large numbers, both because of slave rading, mistreatment, and the lack of resistance to European diseases. The Portuguese found captured Africans to be a valuable trading commodity as Europeans began to settle the Caribbean islands. They also began transporting Africans to their Brazilian colony. Portuguese Prime Minister Marquês de Pombal abolished slavery in Portugal (February 12, 1761). The Portuguese action, however, did not address slavery in the colonies. Slavery was widely practiced. Brazilians of all classes owned slaves. Slaves were not only owned by upper and middle class Brazilians, but also by lower class Brazilians. There were even slaves who owned other slaves.
Spanish America
The Spanish were the first to implant colonies in the Ameica. First on Hispniols and then Puerto Rico amd Cuba. The slaves were at first Nsative Americans. But a comination of mistreatment and European diseases soon desimated the relatively small Native American populstions of the islands. While the Spanish colonists were decimating Native American populatuions, im Spsin Bartlomew de las Casas was leading a debate over the nature of Native Americans and how they should be treated. As the debsate raged, the colonists began importing captive Africans to enslave. The Native American populations on the mainland were much larger. They too were decimated, but not wiped out as on the islands. The Spanish colonists enslaved Native Americans, but over time through the creation of the encomienda, Native American people took on the rokles of serfs, although the difference between slsves and serfs was not great. Some Afrcans were imported as slaves, but primarily to work in the coastal lowlands of Venezuela, Colombia, Central America, Mexico, and northern Ecuador. Except for the Caribbean sugar islands, the role of slavery in Hispano-America was much less imporant than in Luso-America (Brazil). The new republics that achieved independence from Spain abolished slavery (1810s-20s). The Spanish retained possession of their Caribbean islands (Cuba and Puerto) and slavery continued there for decades. The Guianas
Most of South America was a part of the Spanish or Portuguese colonia empire. There were three other colonial powers (England, France, and the Netherlands) which established small colonies in the northeast corner of the continent--the Guianas. These colonies were English, French, and Dutch Guiana. Guyana and Suriname are now independent. French Guiana is now part of France. These colonies were culturaly linked with the Caribban possessions of these colonial powers. The population of all three colonies, including the number of slaves was relatively limited. The pattern was basically the same, efforts to enslave native Americans failed and captive Africans were imported. Some slaves escapes and establoshed Maroon populations with the Native Americans in the interior. Eventually indetured workers were also imported from the Dutch and English colonial empires. Emancipation occurred at various times. The British led the effortv to end cthe slave trade and were the first to emsncipate the slaves. The Dutch were the last. The Dutch were particularly important because they worked out the basics of plnbtation sugar production. Details on slavery in the three colonies is available: Dutch Guiana, British Guiana, and French Guiana. Unites States Slavery
One of the most significant institution in United States history was slavery. Slavery helped build America. It is a major reason why America developed differently than Europe. It is also a major cause of the disparities that now exist among Americas (much greater than in Europe), and the roots of major social problems are rooted in slvevery. Two historians write that the legacy os slavery, "... remains in the history and heritage of the South that it shaped, in the culture of the North, where its memory was long denied, in the national economy for which it provided much of the foundation, and in the political and social system it prfoundly influenced." [Horton and Horton] Despite the importance of slavery in the Americam epoch, slavery until recently has been a subjected avoided by American historians. To the extent that slavery was addressed, it tended to be discussed in terms that accepted the southern myth of idelic plantation life and benign white masters struggling to deal with lazy, workers ith a child-like mentality. This has changed in recent years as historians produce more realistic treement of slavery. One area in which progress has been disappointing is school textbooks. The egregiously racist treatment has been removed from textboks, but for the most part school rextbooks still give little attention to slavery and the discussion presented is usually not illuuminating. One problem here is the economics of school textbooks and the need to meet the editorial demands of large states. Here Texas is a particular problem. American schools have attempted to deal with the racial issue by designating February as Black History Month. Unfortunately rarely does Black History Month address slavery. Rather it generally amounts to an innoucous effort to point out Blacks who have contributed to America which do little to explain social inequities in America. The avoidance of slavery is not just a matter of white unwillingness to address slavery, but many Black educators also seem reluctant.
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lioness: splitting hairs, Charles V was the first to issue offical licences. Are we to take it that you agree with Marc, Mike and Egmond that the Holy Roman Empire was black, and these black kings Ferdinand and black king Charles V authorized the beginnings of Trans Atlantic Slave trade? _______________________________________________________
in 1510, black slaves were transported to Spanish colonies with the permission of Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand (Ferdinand the Catholic) of Spain.
^^Dumbass, you said Charles V "founded" the transatlantic Slave trade. Now you admit he never did. Make up your mind.
I don't expect you to give a straight answer to this question. This stuff does more damage to black history than cassertides because it confuses people, malibudsul, one of the young victims.
^Based on your bogus information no wonder he would be confused - "young victim" of your addled mind. [/b]
Unfortunately rarely does Black History Month address slavery
^^This is a loonier tune than even "Looney Tunes"
lioness: notice how Mike Marc and Egmond avoid the big problem with these Holy Roman Emperors, 15th and 16th century European chattel slavery, perhaps 12 to 13 million imported into the Caribbean and South and Central America.
^Dumbass, 12 to 13 million Europeans were not imported into the Caribbean and South and Central America as part of "European chattel slavery." Such never happened, so how could Mike and Codfish be "avoiding" a non-existent "problem"?
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
lioness: notice how Mike Marc and Egmond avoid the big problem with these Holy Roman Emperors, 15th and 16th century European chattel slavery, perhaps 12 to 13 million imported into the Caribbean and South and Central America.
^Dumbass, 12 to 13 million Europeans were not imported into the Caribbean and South and Central America as part of "European chattel slavery." Such never happened, so how could Mike and Codfish be "avoiding" a non-existent "problem"? [/QB]
jackass, stop playing games obviously when I siad "European chattel slavery" I meant chattel slavery carried out by Europeans on Africans as is clear from the information given. as Mike says damn you're stupid
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Dumbass, you are showing the pattern of your stupidity. The term "European Chattel Slavery" is defined in standard histories as the enslavement of white people. It is good you are now clarifying what you meant, but in any event, you still have an IQ lower than whaleshiit.
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quote:Unfortunately rarely does Black History Month address slavery. Rather it generally amounts to an innoucous effort to point out Blacks who have contributed to America which do little to explain social inequities in America. The avoidance of slavery is not just a matter of white unwillingness to address slavery, but many Black educators also seem reluctant.
you kidding right?? that some whites in states like the Texas school board want to avoid the issue has a lot to do with their currant politics and guilt,they are also against evolution,anything to do with labor rights they are against Upton Sinclair hate César Chávez amonst others deh crazy like dat!.
But blacks not dealing with slavery during history month?? so much was the blacks as slave theme that folks had to say hey!! blacks were much more than slaves or civil rights demonstrators,matter o fact so predictable is those two themes one could set your watch by it, that and the Peanut Butter man...(Carver did not invent that btw)but he did alot with peanut.
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^^lol.. the notion that Black History Month "rarely" addresses slavery is, well, see for yourself..
Like the BS "European chattel Slavery" claim above..
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Did we had a good look at these? I did not read the thread but I have always said that the Black European elite started Black slavery.
A serious researcher is careful not to make moral judgements or put people on pedestals: his business is to give a fair reconstruction, using s many sources as possible.
The money earned by slavery can be calculated to the pennies, and should be regarded as back pay. The money is still out there, not better who is benefitting today, it should be returned.
Malibudusul, these should go to your portugues blogspot, no?
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