The Gothas, the Bothas, the Alans, the slavs, your ancestors are all immigrated into Europe from central Asia between 6th and 16 century AD. It is called the great European Migrations.
Here Ironlion with Mike's approval asserts "whites" only entered Europe during the "great European migrations" from the 6th century AD.
Yet Mike contradicts this by claiming "whites" had already arrived by the 1st century when Tacitus was writing:
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Albinos
The Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus (56-118 A.D.) said this about the Germanic tribes of Europe (Not the same as Germans): All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion.
Suddenly "whites" are pushed back another 500 years.
End point: Mike and Ironlion just make up their history as they go along. I do not believe a word either of them write - they actually believe.
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^Cass - I know that this is difficult for you to understand - same goes for Negroes like lamin - so I will go really, really, slow and try to be as simple as possible.
Okay: Do you know how Nigerians and Somalians are both Africans, but they are different? Well Albinos can be from different tribes too.
The first Albinos from Central Asia showed-up in Europe circa 1,200 B.C. They became part of the Greek and Roman civilizations.
The Black, Albino, and Mulatto nature of these civilizations is attested to by thousands of Art artifacts:
Modern Albinos like yourself and Lioness are NOT part of this group, you belong to the "NEW" Albinos who invaded later, such as the Germanics, Slav's and Turks.
Mike, you kill yourself with your own map. Look at the starting and end point of the arrows above. The Goths indicated in red start from Northern Europe and move South and East toward the Eastern European Black Sea region. -so according to you they magically transformed into Central Asians? Idiot, why do you think they call them Germanics, look at the starting point of the arrows. After the Goths came down South and east to the Black sea region, as the wiki entry you also posted says they were later were pushed back by the Huns in 376 AD coming from the East who pushed them BACK West from where they came from (and North) . Note the green arrow for Huns, the only group coming from an Eastern direction.
Also indicated on the map the titlie "Invasions of the Roman Empire 100 - 500 CE" <starting invasion date 100 CE, 276 years before the Huns came around. And they didn't just pop up out of nowhere, before the Goths even got close to the Black Sea it was hundreds of year, befre the time of Christ BC, they came down from Scandinavia, into Germany and only then Eastern Europe eventually to invade Roman territory. Later after they came East they were pushed back West by the Huns. So to fool decieve and hustle people you say " they were pushed West by the Huns" to imply they came from the East which is a lie.
Furthermore one of the Germanic groups were the Franks of whom the Holy Romans derive, so it kills your Holy Romans were Black theory as well, right there on the map. Add the Saxons another Germanic group. Most of European histroy is derived form the Franks and Anglo Saxons. Of course now you will hypocritically disown your own post realizing it makes you look stupid
^^^ a blond haired mulatto? Might be possible but not too common.
I suppose this is what you mean by "mulatto"
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Go away lioness, I'm not really in the mood for your stupidness right now. Yes, in typical Albino fashion, there is much lie and bullsh1t in the material that Albinos draw up, so why are you bothering me about it?
Cass, lamin, have I helped you?
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The Gothas, the Bothas, the Alans, the slavs, your ancestors are all immigrated into Europe from central Asia between 6th and 16 century AD. It is called the great European Migrations.
blah blah blah...
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I mean there is undisputable evidence even by your own standards that whites in Europe predate that figure.
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The earliest ethnic group later considered among the Sea Peoples is believed to be attested in Egyptian hieroglyphics on the Byblos obelisk found in the Obelisk Temple at Byblos in modern day Lebanon. The inscription mentions kwkwn son of rwqq-( or kukun son of luqq), transliterated as Kukunnis, son of Lukka, "the Lycian".The date is given variously as 2000 or 1700 BC.
This is just first written record. and notice, nothing to do with Central asia. Mike view is that white people don't exist unless a historian wrote about them was living at the time
Now jumping back far into prehistoric times, before written record a map of human migration out of Africa
Follow the progression as per out of Africa onto Europe
M168 Africans, out of Africa into the Mid East 50,000 years ago (Negroid ancestors of Faheemdunkerologist)
M89 Middle East 45,000 years ago
M9 Northern Afghanistan/Pakistan region 40,000 years ago (probably significant skin lighteing as M89 went up to Iraq, branched along M9 )
M45 Kazakhstan/North East China region, 35,000 years ago
M173 first entry to Europe, having come across Southern Russia, 30,000 years ago
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other branch of M89
M89 Middle East 45,000 years ago
M172 across Turkey first entry into Eastern Europe 10.000 years ago
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^^^ give or take 5-10,000 years, each period
Europe depopulated by Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) cold climate between 26,500 and 19,000–20,000 years ago.
Europe repopulates, Neolithic, by 7000 years ago Middle Neolithic
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Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT as attested to recent genetic studies on ancient skeleton from the Neolithic period and prior to that.
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Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT as attested to recent genetic studies on ancient skeleton from the Neolithic period and prior to that.
xyyman - What nonsense is this you speak of?
Quote: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT
You too are required to produce proof you know, what proof do you have of this?
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT as attested to recent genetic studies on ancient skeleton from the Neolithic period and prior to that.
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Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe.
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The European Neolithic is believed to have arrived from the Near East, via Asia Minor(Anatolia) , the Mediterranean waterway and also through the Caucasus. There has been a long discussion between migrationists (who claim that the Near Eastern farmers almost totally displaced the European native hunter-gatherers) and diffusionists (who claim that the process was slow enough to have occurred mostly through cultural transmission). A relationship has been suggested between the spread of agriculture and the diffusion of Indo-European languages, with several models of migrations trying to establish a relationship, like the Anatolian hypothesis, which sets the origin of Indo-European agricultural terminology in Anatolia. Posts: 42923 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
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^All of that nonsense above, simply because I asked a simple question: "What proof do you have that Albinos are indigenous to Europe".
Cass said it, xyyman said it, and Lioness intimated it: but the position is so bankrupt that all they could supply as proof, is the above nonsense.
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Cranial studies of Cro-Magnon cluster them with Caucasoids, specifically modern ('white') Europeans before any other race. Secondly Upper Palaeolithic wall art and busts depict the Caucasoid physiognomy - thin prominent noses, wavy-straight hair.
Skin colour? Probably brown.
Your stupid classification however rests entirely on skin colour. Hence you will cluster a Indian Caucasoid with brown skin with a Negro, despite the fact they look nothing a like in craniofacial features or hair texture.
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quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: Cranial studies of Cro-Magnon cluster them with Caucasoids, specifically modern ('white') Europeans before any other race. Secondly Upper Palaeolithic wall art and busts depict the Caucasoid physiognomy - thin prominent noses, wavy-straight hair.
Skin colour? Probably brown.
Your stupid classification however rests entirely on skin colour. Hence you will cluster a Indian Caucasoid with brown skin with a Negro, despite the fact they look nothing a like in craniofacial features or hair texture.
Cass - that's a silly lie - there is NO "Palaeolithic wall art and busts depict the Caucasoid physiognomy - thin prominent noses". wavy-straight hair.
Cass - this picture of a White Caveman is "NOT REAL"!!!!
THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO PAINTED THOSE PICTURES LOOKED LIKE!!!!
BTW - I have NO problem classifying Black Indians as CAUCASIANS!
As a matter of fact isn't that what I ALWAYS say: i.e. That Europeans are simply Indian Albinos!
He,he,he: Do you need me to post those pictures again?
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Mike, you kill yourself with your own map. Look at the starting and end point of the arrows above. The Goths indicated in red start from Northern Europe and move South and East toward the Eastern European Black Sea region. -so according to you they magically transformed into Central Asians? Idiot, why do you think they call them Germanics, look at the starting point of the arrows. After the Goths came down South and east to the Black sea region, as the wiki entry you also posted says they were later were pushed back by the Huns in 376 AD coming from the East who pushed them BACK West from where they came from (and North) . Note the green arrow for Huns, the only group coming from an Eastern direction.
Also indicated on the map the titlie "Invasions of the Roman Empire 100 - 500 CE" <starting invasion date 100 CE, 276 years before the Huns came around. And they didn't just pop up out of nowhere, before the Goths even got close to the Black Sea it was hundreds of year, befre the time of Christ BC, they came down from Scandinavia, into Germany and only then Eastern Europe eventually to invade Roman territory. Later after they came East they were pushed back West by the Huns. So to fool decieve and hustle people you say " they were pushed West by the Huns" to imply they came from the East which is a lie.
Furthermore one of the Germanic groups were the Franks of whom the Holy Romans derive, so it kills your Holy Romans were Black theory as well, right there on the map. Add the Saxons another Germanic group. Most of European histroy is derived form the Franks and Anglo Saxons. Of course now you will hypocritically disown your own post realizing it makes you look stupid
^^^ a blond haired mulatto? Might be possible but not too common.
I suppose this is what you mean by "mulatto"
Modern Turks entered the region of Turkey only recently. They have told me this themselves.
Gell burya. Why don't you know your history, that well?
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT as attested to recent genetic studies on ancient skeleton from the Neolithic period and prior to that.
xyyman - What nonsense is this you speak of?
Quote: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT
You too are required to produce proof you know, what proof do you have of this?
Mike, I understand that the Romans took Celts to Egypt and other parts of North Africa, as slaves. Do you have any info on this, and perhaps a map?
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT as attested to recent genetic studies on ancient skeleton from the Neolithic period and prior to that.
xyyman - What nonsense is this you speak of?
Quote: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT
You too are required to produce proof you know, what proof do you have of this?
Mike, I understand that the Romans took Celts to Egypt and other parts of North Africa, as slaves. Do you have any info on this, and perhaps a map?
What is your definition of a Celt?
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quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Mike, I understand that the Romans took Celts to Egypt and other parts of North Africa, as slaves. Do you have any info on this, and perhaps a map?
quote:What is your definition of a Celt?
Troll Patrol - Here are some images that you might consider while formulating your answer.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT as attested to recent genetic studies on ancient skeleton from the Neolithic period and prior to that.
xyyman - What nonsense is this you speak of?
Quote: Yes, Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe but MODERN Europeans are NOT
You too are required to produce proof you know, what proof do you have of this?
Mike, I understand that the Romans took Celts to Egypt and other parts of North Africa, as slaves. Do you have any info on this, and perhaps a map?
What is your definition of a Celt?
They way it is used in mainstream history books.
I understand the are Hg I carries, and were taken to North Africa, i.e. Egypt around 500 A.D.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ as if the Romans weren't white, ha ha
You're right, I recall Cas and Swenet had a little conversation, on these Meds with negroid tendencies.
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Romans inherited the institution of slavery from the Greeks and the Phoenicians. As the Roman Republic expanded outward, entire populations were enslaved, thus creating an ample supply to work in Rome's farms and households. The people subjected to Roman slavery came from all over Europe and the Mediterranean. Such oppression by an elite minority eventually led to slave revolts (see Roman Servile Wars); the Third Servile War led by Spartacus was the most famous and severe. Greeks, Berbers, Germans, Britons, Thracians, Gauls (or Celts), Jews, Arabs, and many more were slaves used not only for labor, but also for amusement (e.g. gladiators and sex slaves). If a slave ran away, he was liable to be crucified. By the late Republican era, slavery had become a vital economic pillar in the wealth of Rome.
^^^ Mike says this Gaul is a straight haired black man, I assume because his nostril looks wide
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: So whats your theory?
Caucasoids are indigenous to Europe. [/QB]
And who are those cacasoids? According to your master Coon, they are: The Somalis;
The Berbers;
The Fulanis;
The Tutsis;
The Nubians;
The Hausas;
My dear, these are all negroes from Africa. Your boy Coon was acting like a real coon when he named them as cacasoids.
Those nations above, are not your tribes. they are Muurs. You come from the wild men.
You are a Botha, Gotha, Slava, Alana, Suebi, Descendant from central Asian. What part of Central Asia don't you understand? Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: I had not seen this fake before, seems to me that it could just be a drawing rather than an actual coin.
When we finally get the Albinos back into Central Asia it's going to be quite a job to find and destroy all of their fakes.
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Ironfaggot what part of WHITES DO NOT COME FROM CENTRAL ASIA don't you understand you stupid brainless Black moronic troll. BTW stupid ass there was no Germanic tribe called the Botha, the Germanic tribes were, GOTHS, VANDALS, FRANKS, SUEVI, ALANS, ANGLO-SAXONS, VIKINGS, DANES amongst many. Also what part of the Goths & Suevi NO LONGER EXIST don't you understand.
Mike ohhh wicked, evil,Black racist son of satan, don't make me post the skull of a CELTIC woman again LOL. You just hate it when someone such as myself, Cass, or Lioness posts something that proves you wrong, you also hate to admit when you are wrong & never do don't you stupid history stealing Black racist, Kill Whitey,White people genocidist, retard. Whitey hater, we Whites will not be going anywhere if we live in Europe, it is OUR ancestral homeland we have a right to it & you can't have it, if anything it'll be your black racist backside getting shipped back to Africa along with your Black racist kill Whitey brethern (Ironfag, Narmer, Mena7, Mali, Xyyman, Egghead,Kikuyu,Troll Patrol,TypeZeiss, etc). BTW oh Cracka killer when have you ever posted proof of your statements LOL. You shown no proof that we Whites are from Central Asia heck you even claim that it was Blacks who were indigenous to there too LOL. According to you we Whites have no history of any kind, no heritage of any kind, no identity of any kind, no homeland to call our own, nothing to be proud of as a people & no place on this earth & therefore must be exterminated.
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^I never said that you Albinos should be exterminated. Even murderous Dravidian Albinos should be allowed to live, just not among normal people, that's why you need to go back to Central Asia.
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: the Germanic tribes were, GOTHS, VANDALS, FRANKS, SUEVI, ALANS, ANGLO-SAXONS, VIKINGS, DANES amongst many. Also what part of the Goths & Suevi NO LONGER EXIST don't you understand.
Raph dear
The gothas and the suebis, and the alanas, and the bothas and slavas still exist. They are you, you, and your pink ass! LOL!
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Mike what part of WHITES ARE NOT FROM CENTRAL ASIA NOR ARE WE ALBINOS, NOR ARE WE EAST INDIANS do you not comprehend oh White people hating, Black racist lying, stealer of White history? Just let me know & I'll be sure BTW I posted my proof in the form of those skulls now post your proof of what you claim. Let's see all the White mummies (no the ones you have posted before won't do as they are not White but are mixed), lets see all the White artifacts in Central Asia, lets hear accounts from ancient historians using the words White & people & Asia in the same sentence. Show me linguistics data showing similarities in Indo-European languages & Altaic languages. Show me an account of Whites leaving India by one person living in India at the time of the supposed migration. I'll be waiting & don't make me wait forever cause I hate waiting LOL.
Ironfaggot,
I know my roots very well thank you. I KNOW my particular genealogy. I have NO Alan blood in me. I do have Goth, Vandal, Anglo-Saxon, CELT, & Viking, Norman & Frankish blood though. Anyhow I"m not the topic here, if you wanna talk about me then start a dang thread and we'll discuss me. Also my name is NOT Ralph or Raph, it is Trish (Patricia to my enemies like you & Mike and the rest of your ilk, I am NOT a man but am a woman. Ohh and YOU & your ilk are the ones who don't know your roots, only because your too dang ignorant to research them & prefer to steal others.
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Ironfaggot, every last one of those peoples are INDIGENOUS to EUROPE you stupid fool. BTW I must thank you for reminding me that I intended to do a video showing my genealogy chart LOL.
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: BTW oh Cracka killer when have you ever posted proof of your statements LOL. You shown no proof that we Whites are from Central Asia heck you even claim that it was Blacks who were indigenous to there too LOL. According to you we Whites have no history of any kind, no heritage of any kind, no identity of any kind, no homeland to call our own, nothing to be proud of as a people & no place on this earth & therefore must be exterminated.
The point wasn't to detail who did what - that is way beyond Wiki.
The point was to demonstrate to darling Doxie that even her fellow Albinos admit that Dravidian Albinos like yourselves are NOT native to Europe.
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I know most here are slow .....but Mike I expect better.
This table tells the story. White women entered North Africa WITHOUT their white men. Things haven't change much since back in the day. Black men and white women and their love for.......wink! wink!
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I will go slowly....the above shows that indigenous North Africans are NOT of the same lineage as Europeans even if they have Caucasoids features. There is only one conclusion. These features are indigenous to Africa....or white women came to Africa without their men. Wait!! This is really popular in parts of Arica today.
Stop getting played my man.
That is what happens when we use eye ball anthropology. There is a whole new world of science out there...called genetics. Get in the game.
BTW - @ Swenet. 1. Neanderthals did NOT admix with AMH. They have been going back and forth on this over the last 3-4years. Keep up. Posts: 12143 | From: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable | Registered: Jun 2007
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Cass argument is that Europeans entered and dominated North Africa...which is outdate anthropology. He prefers the word Caucasoid ...as such he can steal African history. If he uses the word European(his true meaning) his argument will come across as crazy and foucked up. Hence his insistence of Caucasoid. To pool people he has no relation to with his sorry, demented, delusional ass.
It does matter what you call North Africans they were NOT decended from modern Europeans.. . .which is his argument.
I will stop here,.... back to the entertainment.
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No they aren't. Are you saying Africa gets a lack of sunlight? Straight and wavy hair is a northern latitude adaptation. Straight fibers better facilitate the passage of UV light into the body (Iyengar, 1998). There are plenty of other traits that are not indigenous to Africa.
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Look bro. I am not really addressing you. I rarely have a serious discussion with high school drop outs. I am not sure what your education level is but...you cannot keep up.
To get you started. Re-read what you posted. And read it again.
Pull out a geography book. Look at the latitude of Africa. Look at the climate of Africa. Look at the UV levels through-out Africa. If you understand evolution you will understand that indigenous Africans are anticipated to be light skin, dark skin, wavvy haired, curly haired, broad nosed, thin nosed etc. In addition to being the original AMH, carrying the entire genome of modern humans worldwide. You should check out my Bantus with blue eyes thread on ESR. You will get a kick out of it Peace out!!! YAWN!!!!!
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quote:These features are indigenous to Africa.
No they aren't. Are you saying Africa gets a lack of sunlight? Straight and wavy hair is a northern latitude adaptation. Straight fibers better facilitate the passage of UV light into the body (Iyengar, 1998). There are plenty of other traits that are not indigenous to Africa.
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OH!! And they are y-DNA hg-E....again I ask.... are you a PN2 clade carrier. I will make it simple. The daddy, of the Causcasoid North Africans which you wish to be, are the same as mine. We are brothers. . .before they are brothers with you.
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Straight-wavy hair did not appear in Africa. It's a northern latitude adaptation that only Caucasoids, Australoids and Mongoloids posess.
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Quote:'Straight-wavy hair did not appear in Africa. It's a northern latitude adaptation that only Caucasoids, Australoids and Mongoloids posess."
Are you for real? Do you really talk like that. . . have you attended college? I am stumped by that response. eg "it is a northern latitude adaptation." Simple geography lesson. Anything north of the equator ....is North. In case you don't get it...parts of Nigeria is north.(sic) and Australia is south, He! He! He!
Mike and company....carry on.
oh and new Title to the thread:
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Mike you put up the above wiki page. You say it shows that white people are not native to Europe
It says right up there:
Origins of Germanic tribes Germanic peoples moved out of southern Scandinavia, Denmark and adjacent lands between the Elbe and Oder rivers after 1000 BC. The first wave moved westward and southward (pushing the resident Celts west to the Rhine River by about 200 BC) and moving into southern Germany up to the Roman province of Gaul by 100 BC, where they were stopped by Gaius Marius and Julius Caesar.
so how is this saying whites were not indgenous to Europe? It seems like you are stupid, it confirms the reverse of what you are saying please help me out here
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Look at the map, anything red/purple gets excessive sunlight. The only yellow shade in Africa are the rainforests which are covered in trees, hence they get a lower annual UV intake, but they are still much higher than the green and cream shades.
Africa's climate has changed in humidity, but not its UV intake. The only thing that would change that is if the axis of the earth shifted.
Straight hair is a non-Negroid feature.
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The "Blacks" are straight haired claim is sheer fantasy. Where are these Negroids with straight hair exactly? Can you show a single photo?
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