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there were great “Race Wars” now termed “Religious” Wars, in the late medieval period in Europe. These Race wars resulted in the Genocide of Blacks in Europe, and the expulsion of the survivors to the Americas. They came about because ascending European Albinos, whose numbers were constantly increased by new migrants from Central Asia, and finally, the Mongols expulsion of the Turks from Asia, wanted to begin a new era, one completely free of their Black Lords.

Early on, the Albinos apparently realized that one great impediment to their “New Order” was the Catholic Church, with its Black Popes and Black Saints. The saints especially were an integral part of the Catholic Church, their images were prayed to by believers, and they were almost exclusively Black. Obviously, what was needed was a religion without images of Saints.

The Protestant Reformation


The Protestant Reformation was the 16th-century schism within Western Christianity initiated by Martin Luther, John Calvin and other early Protestants. The efforts of the self-described "reformers", who objected to ("protested") the doctrines, rituals, and ecclesiastical structure of the Roman Catholic Church, led to the creation of new national Protestant churches. The Reformation was precipitated by earlier events within Europe, such as the Black Death and the Western Schism, which eroded people's faith in the Catholic Church and the Papacy that governed it.

In general, Northern Europe, with the exception of Ireland and pockets of Britain and the Netherlands, turned Protestant. Southern Europe remained Roman Catholic, while fierce battles which turned into warfare took place in central Europe. The largest of the new churches were the Lutherans (mostly in Germany, the Baltics and Scandinavia) and the Reformed churches (mostly in Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Scotland). There were many smaller bodies as well. The most common dating of the Protestant Reformation begins in 1517, when Luther published The Ninety-Five Theses, and concludes in 1648 with the Treaty of Westphalia that ended years of European religious wars.


England


The separation of the Church of England (or Anglican Church) from Rome under Henry VIII, beginning in 1529 and completed in 1537, brought England alongside this broad Reformation movement; however, religious changes in the English national church proceeded more conservatively than elsewhere in Europe. Reformers in the Church of England alternated, for centuries, between sympathies for ancient Catholic tradition and more Reformed principles, gradually developing into a tradition considered a middle way (via media) between the Roman Catholic and Protestant traditions.

The Albino victory in Europe did leave some loose ends for modern Albinos: all of those formerly Catholic churches with their statues and paintings of Black Saints and Madonna’s, which the lay people of the past would not allow to be destroyed. The solution was very simple: SAY THAT THE MADONNA'S ARE A NOVELITY, AND THE SAINTS ARE ALL SAINT MAURICE!

As with all silly lies, the falsity is immediately apparent. The mythical Saint Maurice was a Roman soldier, the (the Egyptian/Ethiopian) leader of the legendary Roman Theban Legion in the 3rd century, who would obviously wear a Roman uniform. See Saint Martin of Tours here, he was also a Roman soldier of the same period, note that he is depicted wearing a Roman uniform of his period: (Also note that he is Black - that will of course be changed later).


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Compare now with the Holy Roman Empire soldiers, falsely identified as St. Maurice, who are depicted wearing the uniform of medieval Knights of the Holy Roman Empire.


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Sometime after the Protestant Reformation, the Catholic Church also fell under the control of Europe's Albinos. For the western Catholic church, new statues and paintings of the Madonna and the Saints were created - they now depicted Albinos. The Albinos developed cottage industries devoted to creating new statues and paintings which looked like ancient artifacts.


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However for the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Black Madonna's and Saints were mostly kept, though now with mostly Albino features.


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the ancestors are angry

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Anyone know which culture this beautiful piece of art is From?


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Mike, remember that there is also the Anglican church.


http://www.greenspirit.org.uk/resources/BlackMadonna.shtml

READ!!!

"The Black Madonnas in England

England has her own history of Black Madonnas: two of the most famous were Our Lady of Walsingham, who was the object of pilgrimage throughout the Middle Ages and until 1538; and Our Lady of Willesdcn, whose cult got started a bit later in the second half of the 15th century. At Willesden, there was also a holy well, famous for its cures, especially of eye problems. The lady of the manor, Richeldis, founded the Walsingham shrine after a dream. In the 14th century, the slipper chapel was founded, dedicated to St. Catherine, where pilgrims could remove their boots and proceed barefoot or in slippers. Both these popular shrines were destroyed by Henry VIII's decree in 1538. Holinshed, writing in 1538, records the destruction of the shrine: 'By a special motion of the Lord Cromwell, all the notable images unto which were made any special pilgrimages and offerings were utterly taken away- as the images of Walsingham, Ipswich, Worcester, the Ladye of Wilsdon.' The statues were taken to the bank of the Thames at Chelsea and burnt. However, on dying, Henry VIII bequeathed his soul to OL of Walsingham. They were not forgotten, however, and both places now have separate Catholic and Anglican shrines. The Catholic chapel was recognized, with papal approval in 1934, as the national shrine of Our Lady. The statue there is white, but the replicas are dark, based on the seal of Walsingham. In the Anglican chapel, restored in 1921, there is a dark statue, also based on the seal.

But at Willesden, they are black and brown in the Anglican and the Catholic churches respectively and they have lively followings. The Catholic church's statue was carved from an oak tree that stood on 'the site' (of the original church) in 1892 and in 1954 it was crowned by a cardinal (Bernard Griffin) in Wembley Stadium and processed through the streets back to Willesden. (see www.ourladyofwillesden.co.uk) and the Anglican Black Madonna looks like she has been carved out of ebony and is about 3/4 life size. The sculptor was Catherini Stern; it was unveiled in 1972. When I last spoke to the vicar at St. Mary's the sacred spring had been unblocked and several cures had already been attributed to it. (see www. stmarywillesden. org. uk)

Another popular Marian shrine was Our Lady of Caversham (Reading). Also destroyed at the time of the Reformation, it was almost forgotten, but was revived and re-built on a stone bridge over the Thames. A dark Madonna, apparently from Northern Europe (allegedly found in a junk shop in London), was bought and installed in the chapel. It is now once again a thriving place of worship.

If you cannot get to Monserrat in Spain to see one of the most famous Black Madonnas in the world (known as La Moreneta) you can see a beautifully carved replica of her in the Catholic church in Farm Street, in the heart of London. It was made by a monk from the monastery at Monserrat and is hard to tell from the original. They also have a copy of OL of Guadalupe in the same side chapel. Then there is the church of Our Lady of Hal in Camden Town, where they have a copy of the Belgian ark wood statue that is venerated in Belgium.

Symbolism and Meaning - Conclusion

For all the differences in their perspectives, the theorists seem to agree that the darkness of the Black Madonna symbolizes power. Jung said she is Isis, whilst others consider her to be the iconic remains of prehistoric Mother Earth worship. As we have seen, she is linked with Cybele/Demeter, Diana/Artemis, Isis and Venus/Aphrodite. Cross-culturally she is associated with Kali, Inanna & Lilith. Historically she has ties to the Crusades and the Moorish occupation of Spain; and to the Conquistadors, who brought her to the New World. For modern psychologists she is said to express the archetype of the dark feminine.

Jungian psychologist Betty de Shong Meador (in Uncursing the Dark) explains the transformative power of darkness and why women in particular seem to resonate with a dark feminine figure. Because the archetypal feminine has been so deeply repressed as to become invisible in our culture, she says we have no framework on which to develop a sense of self. She explores darkness as a mythological framework and observes that women's natural way of transformation is to go down into the dark. Religion emphasizes light and reason, but darkness is where creativity and transformation actually occur.

My personal view is that there is a human need for a Great Mother out there in the universe watching over us. For women, a Father God just isn't accessible enough. What would he know of the pains and joys of pregnancy, of childbirth, of losing a child? Mothers go through these things all the time.

As paganism was replaced by Christianity in Europe, the worship of the Mother Goddess simply underwent a name change, but remained intact. In my experience of the sanctuaries of Montserrat, Notre Dame du Port, Santa Maria Maggiore, and many others, people there were not praying to an intermediary or to an abstract concept. They fervently believed that the Mother could grant their prayers, heal the sick, make their lives better. For them, She is real.

I waited in the queue in Montserrat for over an hour, surrounded by people speaking languages I do not know (mainly Polish and Russian). The one Spanish lady near enough to talk to was there on pilgrimage for perhaps the 100th time - she had lost count. She was bringing her niece and nephew, who were recently married and had never been to see La Moreneta. When I asked if she was important to her family, she said, 'Oh yes - very important'. So I asked if she could tell me why, and she answered simply, "She is the patroness of Catalonia. She is our Blessed Mother"

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Queen Mother Head, from Benin
16 c
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National Museum, Lagos, Nigeria

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quote:
Originally posted by malibudusul:

"The Black Madonnas in England

He,he,he:

Hillary Ratna offers every imaginable reason for Black Madonnas, except the simplest and the truthful:

SHE WAS A BLACK WOMAN!

Damn Albinos love to insult the intelligence of Normal people.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by malibudusul:

"The Black Madonnas in England

He,he,he:

Hillary Ratna offers every imaginable reason for Black Madonnas, except the simplest and the truthful:

SHE WAS A BLACK WOMAN!

Damn Albinos love to insult the intelligence of Normal people.

What caught my attention in the text.
Was that the text talks about the destruction of images of black madonna

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http://from-ocean-to-ocean.org/en/about

http://tamrin.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=religions&action=display&thread=2203

Of Bulgarian Vampires

http://bshistorian.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/of-bulgarian-vampires/

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Mike if you can scientificaly prove there was a race war between White Protestant Christian European and black Catholic European, If you can prove there was a white European genocide of black European you will become one of the greatest historian of the 21 st century.

If Egmond Codfried can prove scientificaly that the European elite and monarchy was black(He said he did by showing book writen at their time describe them as brown skin) he will also become one of the greatest historian of the 21st cent.

If white people dont rewrite their history book after those fact has been proven African and Asian will have to rewrite their world history book.

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quote:
Originally posted by mena7:
Mike if you can scientificaly prove there was a race war between White Protestant Christian European and black Catholic European, If you can prove there was a white European genocide of black European you will become one of the greatest historian of the 21 st century.

mena7 - What I am doing "IS" scientific proof!


Circumstantial Evidence

Circumstantial Evidence is also known as indirect evidence. It is distinguished from direct evidence, which, if believed, proves the existence of a particular fact without any inference or presumption required. Circumstantial evidence relates to a series of facts other than the particular fact sought to be proved. The party offering circumstantial evidence argues that this series of facts, by reason and experience, is so closely associated with the fact to be proved that the fact to be proved may be inferred simply from the existence of the circumstantial evidence.


Circumstantial evidence is most often employed in criminal trials. Many circumstances can create inferences about an accused's guilt in a criminal matter, including the accused's resistance to arrest; the presence of a motive or opportunity to commit the crime; the accused's presence at the time and place of the crime; any denials, evasions, or contradictions on the part of the accused; and the general conduct of the accused. In addition, much Scientific Evidence is circumstantial, because it requires a jury to make a connection between the circumstance and the fact in issue. For example, with fingerprint evidence, a jury must make a connection between this evidence that the accused handled some object tied to the crime and the commission of the crime itself.

Books, movies, and television often perpetuate the belief that circumstantial evidence may not be used to convict a criminal of a crime. But this view is incorrect. In many cases, circumstantial evidence is the only evidence linking an accused to a crime; direct evidence may simply not exist. As a result, the jury may have only circumstantial evidence to consider in determining whether to convict or acquit a person charged with a crime. In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that "circumstantial evidence is intrinsically no different from testimonial [direct] evidence"(Holland v. United States, 348 U.S. 121, 75 S. Ct. 127, 99 L. Ed. 150 [1954]). Thus, the distinction between direct and circumstantial evidence has little practical effect in the presentation or admissibility of evidence in trials.

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quote:
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In many cases, circumstantial evidence is the only evidence linking an accused to a crime; direct evidence may simply not exist.

mena7 - Using the rules of circumstantial evidence, the case against the Albinos has been made and won several times over. Now what?
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There is no circumstancial evidence suggesting large numbers of blacks were living in early A.D. Europe.
The numbers were small.

Mike promotes fairy tales to try to get our minds away from Africa

It comes about by a shamed view on Africa brought about by white supremacy

Thin about the amount of time spent on looking at European art compared to the amount of time spent on looking at African art
(I know, I know, what amount of time spent looking at African art?)

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The Black hall of shame:

These Negroes would sell their grandmothers.

The degenerate Lioness cited them; think how fuched-up they must be.

Note that they make their money treating Black Europeans as a novelty.


Allison Blakely - “The Image of Blacks in Western Culture: An Historical Perspective”


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Henry Louis Gates - The Image Of The Black In Western Art


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quote:
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[QB] The Black hall of shame:

These Negroes would sell their grandmothers.

The degenerate Lioness cited them; think how fuched-up they must be.

Note that they make their money treating Black Europeans as a novelty.



Then you should be able to answer this:

How many Blacks were living in any of the following Germany, France, England, Netherlands, etc. at any time from 1 AD to 1500 AD ___________________________

(exclude Southern Europe we know some were there from Moorish occupation)

present your circumstantial evidence for population size during any century of any of these places because for a genocide to occur you first have to establish there were large masses of people there to begin with

present your circumstantial evidence that medieval Catholics were primarily Black, that is your claim.

Posting 10 paintings that have a Black person in them proves there were 10 black people.
You will have to go beyond paintings to demonstrate evidence for large numbers of blacks in these regions.
And when I say black I don't mean white people with Mick Jagger lips or curly haired white people.

Also if two ethnic groups are fighting a war it's not necessarily because of ethnicity. They could be fighting over resources, land or religion and just happen to be different ethnically.

Your proposal is that the Catholics of Europe were Black and the Protestants were white. You talk about the Thirty years War in 1648.

But lets go back even further than that. Let's look at before 1517.
How about 1 AD up to 1500 AD
There were no protestants then.
You are telling us everybody was Black?

You propose Martin Luther was protesting Black rule and that was what the reformation was about? Buffoonery with zero evidence. The evidence for that is -94, negative 94


The reformation was about people were sick of church hierarchies and corrupt churches getting rich off the people.
After the advent of printing people wanted to go directly to the bible rather than be illiterates who were dependent on priests to interpret for them and then paying them for indulgences

The reformation is merely a historical event which occurred at a time period convenient for you to hook a silly theory onto.

Additionally you continue to have blinders on to the fact that slavery of your ancestors and the conquistadors were first authorized by Catholics

So here is the list then of the great Blacks of the Counter-Reformation:


Pius II (1503)
Paul III (1534–1549)
Julius III (1550–55)
Paul IV (1555–59)
Pius IV (1559–65)
St. Pius V (1566–72)
Gregory XIII (1572–85)
Sixtus V (1585–90)
St. Ignatius of Loyola
St. Teresa of Ávila
St. John of the Cross
St. Francis de Sales
St. Charles Borromeo
Philip II of Spain (1527–1598)
Mary I of England (1553–1558)
Sigismund the Old of Poland (1467–1548)
Sigismund II Augustus of Poland (1520–1572)
Péter Pázmány (1570–1637)
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^^^ have fun. I'm not charging for this

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^Lioness, why are you so stupid?

You quote Albino history as if it's something that we believe in.

No fool, each and every Albino claim must be supported by evidence.
Do you have any evidence to support this Albino version of things?

P.S. Circumstantial evidence is okay too, ya got any of that?

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Okay, now lets begin:

Prove Albinos are native to Europe.

If they're not, then was Europe empty before Albinos got there?

If albinos are NOT native to Europe, and Europe was NOT empty before Albinos got there, then what humans are native to Europe?

If Blacks are native to Europe, what happened to them?

They could not possible have been absorbed because we have examples of populations were there was racial absorption all over the world, none of them resemble Europe in the slightest - the people ALL clearly show admixture. Whereas Europeans show the least diversity and are clearly almost pure Albinos.

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quote:
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^Lioness, why are you so stupid?

You quote Albino history as if it's something that we believe in.

No fool, each and every Albino claim must be supported by evidence.
Do you have any evidence to support this Albino version of things?

P.S. Circumstantial evidence is okay too, ya got any of that?

But Mike all your sources on Europe are "albino".
Even if you go to J.A. Rogers the primary sources are "albino".
Can't you just eliminate all "albino" sources. I mean look at all the books and paintings you use. They are all owned and controlled by albinos. It's what they want you to see, what is controlled for you to see.

Will you take a pledge with me now to stop using albino sources?
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EXPLOSIVE!! AND SHOCKING! NEWS

also malibud has gotten some nice pics out of Gates book

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Pope Benedict XVI resigns due to age and declining health

Pontiff, 85, who has arthritis, says he will step down on 28 February after nearly eight years as head of Catholic church


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/11/pope-benedict-xvi-resigns-age

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quote:
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Anyone know which culture this beautiful piece of art is From?


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Yoruba!
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^Thanks.
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quote:
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Queen Mother Head, from Benin
16 c
bronze
National Museum, Lagos, Nigeria

where's my thanks?
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Queen Mother Head, from Benin
16 c
bronze
National Museum, Lagos, Nigeria

where's my thanks?
I don't think that they look the same.

Benin Bronzes:


(Plus one is wood and the other is metal).


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That Benin bust bronze look like Roman busts bronze in realhistoryww.com Etruria section.It also look like Tunisian bronze busts posted by just call me Jari.

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The knight Malta, one of the most peculiar organisations in the world marked its 900th birthday Saturday Feb 9, 2013 with a colourful procession through St Peters Square,a mass in the basilica and an audience with Pope Benedict XVI, himself a member of the onetime chivalrous order drawn from Europe s nobility.

The order traces its history to an 11th cent CE infirmary in Jerusalem set up by a monk to care for pilgrim visiting the Holy Land.During the Crusades it took on a military role to protect pilgrims and Christendom as a whole from muslim attacks.In February 1113 Pope Paschal II recognized the order with a papal bull establishing its sovereign status by saying it was independent of both lay and other religious authoroties.

The orders international legal status is entirely unique, a sovereign a sovereign entity that prints its own stamps, coins, license plates and passports,yet has no territory over wich it rules.Its forces once occupied Cyprus, Rhodes and Malta, but Napoleon expelled the order from Malta in 1798,depriving it of the final patch of land ove it ruled.Neverthless the order still enjoys many of the trapping of a small country:UN observer status and diplomatic relation with 104 countries.

The Knight of Malta is an aid group that runs soup kitchen, hospitals and ambulance service around the globe,and a sovereign entity that prints its own passports and enjoys diplomatic relation with 104 countries yet has no country to call its own.

The knight of Malta Grand Master is Catholic British name Matthew Festing.

National Post AP story.

When you google image Knight of Malta you see its Elite members that includes Dame Malta Queen Elisabeth II of UK and Queen Beatrix of the Netherland.A Rothschild international banker, USA CIA chief and secretary of defense Leon Paneta,.South African Presidents Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki,Jacob Zuma etc.

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quote:
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] Queen Mother Head, from Benin
16 c
bronze

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National Museum, Lagos, Nigeria

where's my thanks?

I don't think that they look the same.

Benin Bronzes:


(Plus one is wood and the other is metal).



It's not wood, sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference of the bronze is oxidised

there are several links to this sculpture, sometimes the finish looks differnt in differnt photos, it's actually the nature of the photo.
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benin bronze "queen mother" Nigeria
in google

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.randafricanart.com/i

I think it had been in Berlin but later got back to Nigeria
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Head of an Oba,bronze, 16th century (ca. 1550)
Nigeria; Edo peoples, court of Benin
>magnificent !


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^^^ all bronze

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Lioness beautiful pictures of Yoruba bronze.If I travel to Nigeria in the future I will buy many bronze busts and reliefs.

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