Scythia - An area in Eurasia whose location and extent varied over time. Scythians at various times inhabited: the Caucasus area, including Azerbaijan, Georgia - The central Asian steppes: Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan.
In about 730 B.C, Colchis was overrun by the White Kurgan tribes called Cimmerians and Scythians. But they appear to have done little permanent damage.
The discovery of Scythian mummys (Caucasian) in the permafrost of the Mongolian highlands makes this a very real possibility. Additionally, there seems to be an unmistakable Caucasian influence in the facial features of some of the artifacts. Making the source of their pigmentation, {cross-breeding in Asia or the Americans}, problematic indeed. The great variation in pigmentation and other physical characteristics of Amerindians in the great expanse of the Western Hemisphere, makes it clear that many gene pools were at work.
Satenik was the name of the Alan (White Scythian tribe) princess who married Artashes I, the king of Armenia. Their love story, known as Artashes and Satenik, is presented by the fifth century Armenian historian Movses Khorenatsi in his History of Armenia. Movses noted that the story, which he directly quotes from, was a well-known epic during his time among the common people of Armenia, as told by traveling storytellers and minstrels. Satenik is a popular feminine name among Armenians today.
Were Whites a part of the ancient American population?
Earlier we had deplored certain "unseemly" behaviors by some White scientist, researchers and academic's. One reason - other than the obvious - is because those behaviors tend to obscure science. A perfect example is with Huayna Cápac, we had earlier established that Caucasians were probably one part of the "Clovis" migration across the Bering straits. This theory was further strengthened by the discovery of Scythian mummy's in Mongolia. What all this means, is that it is entirely possible that some members of the Inca nation, could have been Albinos. But because of those unseemly behaviors, we can't be sure if this 500 year-old description of Huayna Cápac is accurate, or just an embellishment by some poor misguided Albino person, with unhealthy racial issues.
The depictions of Caucasian looking Amerindians by early 19th century painters, only adds to the mystery. We know that Whites often demonstrate a kind of psychosis when dealing with historical fact. Their need and desire to be included in everything, everywhere, has often led to fabricated artifacts, which depict White people in places and at times that they did not exist. This psychotic need to show themselves as all of the worlds great people, has led them to depict themselves as everything from Jesus christ to Attila the Hun. But that aside, a good case can still be made for Whites in ancient America.
To the Greco-Romans Ethiopia and Scythia were not considered opposites of each other.
The entire premise of this article: Black vs White is not supported by the terms Ethiop and xanthos. Ethiop does=Black face, but xanthos does not mean ‘blond’, xanthos= ‘brown’.
Homer was Xanthos: a Black Man. The leading characters in his books were Negro/Black men and women.
Aeschylus describes Epaphos as "swarthy of hue" or dark skinned and that he originally lived in Africa.
There are many light skinned Africans who have never mixed with Europeans. Apollo is chrysaeros 'bearing a golden sword'
Artemis is eustephanos which has no relation to fair
Neptune is kyanochaites 'bluish or Blackish like dark deep waves of the ocean
Achilles is xanthos 'brown'
As a result, Homer is talking about different black or negro ethnicities, who were either light brown (xanthos) or dark brown (ethiop). Xanthos and Ethiop represent the idea of the two Kushites living in the south Ethiopia, and Asia, Scythia.
The Greco-Romans, as noted in the writings of Rawlinson, recognized Scythia as Asian Kush, and the ‘Scythians' were recognized as Kushites.
Chambers wrote:
“Ephorus ,too (405B.C.)seems to have had a great impression of the power of the Ethiopians, since he names in the east, the Indians—in the south the Ethiopians—in the west, the Celts—in the north, the Scythians, as the most mighty and numrous people of the known earth. Already in Strabo’s time, however, their ancient power had gone for an indefinite period, and the Negro states found themselves, after Meroe had ceased to be a religious capital …”
The Ephorus map, the Classical authors and writers familiar with the Classics like Rawlinson saw the people living in Scythia and Ethiopia (lands below Egypt) as nations founded by Kushites. This makes the premise of article under review as an example of extremes: Blacks in the South and Whites in the north unfounded. To the ancients this was just a fight between two Kushite (black) nations. The present author has been blinded by modern populations living in Europe today, as the representatives of the former xanthos (brown) population, instead of the Indo-european population which presently live in the modern countries the Greeks called: “Scythia” who consider themselves to be 'white'..
As a result, when Strabo wrote:”The north extends to the remote confines of Scythia and Celtica, and the south to the remote confines of Ethiopia, and the difference between these two extremes is very great ... indeed, they are, in a sense, the antipodes of each other." He was using antipodes as a geographical descriptor, not anthropological identifier of ethnic groups.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search For other uses, see Antipode (disambiguation).
This map shows the antipodes of each point on the Earth's surface—the points where the blue and yellow overlap are land antipodes—most land has its antipodes in the ocean. This map uses the Lambert azimuthal equal-area projection. The yellow areas can be considered to be opposite reflections of the blue areas but on the inner "surface" of the globe of the Earth The same map, from the perspective of the Western Hemisphere. Here the blue areas can be considered to be opposite reflections of the yellow areas but on the inner "surface" of the globe of the EarthIn geography, the antipodes (/ænˈtɪpədiːz/; from Greek: ἀντίποδες,[1] from anti- "opposed" and pous "foot") of any place on Earth is the point on the Earth's surface which is diametrically opposite to it. Two points that are antipodal /ænˈtɪpədəl/ to each other are connected by a straight line running through the centre of the Earth.
In the Northern Hemisphere, "the Antipodes" is often used to refer to Australia and New Zealand, and "Antipodeans" to their inhabitants.[2] Geographically the antipodes of Britain and Ireland are in the Pacific Ocean, south of New Zealand. This gave rise to the name of the Antipodes Islands of New Zealand, which are close to the antipodes of London at about 50° S 179° E. The antipodes of Australia are in the North Atlantic Ocean, while parts of Spain, Portugal, and Morocco are antipodal to New Zealand.
All together, between 4%[3] and 27%[4] of land is antipodal to land, depending on how tidal flows are measured.[5] The largest antipodal land masses are the Malay Archipelago, antipodal to the Amazon Basin and adjoining Andean ranges; east China and Mongolia, antipodal to Chile and Argentina; and Greenland and the Canadian Arctic Archipelago, antipodal to East Antarctica.
Strabo’s mention of Ephorus makes it clear he was talking about Kushites who belonged to the same ethnicity, not Black and White ethnic groups.
Strabo also wrote: "[Ephoros] says that if we divide the regions of the heavens and of the earth into four parts, the Indians will occupy that part from which Apeliotes blows, the Ethiopians the part from which Notos blows, the Celts the part on the west, and the Scythians the part from which the north wind blows.
Ephorus’s map of the Kushite nations and dicussion of the Kushites indicates that while there was a geographical antipodes, the people belonged to the “same nationality”.
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: Mike is not really wrong. The original Scythians were Kushites. Later, Europeans gave the name to the Sacae,a group of Central asian nomads.
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Mike says In about 730 B.C White Scythians overran the Colchis.
What is the time period when Scythians were Black? Your Greek writer references are hundreds of years later, more recent than 730 B.C.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: Mike is not really wrong. The original Scythians were Kushites. Later, Europeans gave the name to the Sacae,a group of Central asian nomads.
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Mike says In about 730 B.C White Scythians overran the Colchis.
What is the time period when Scythians were Black?
The Sycthians were always Black. The Sacae were 'white'.
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: Mike is not really wrong. The original Scythians were Kushites. Later, Europeans gave the name to the Sacae,a group of Central asian nomads.
Mike says In about 730 B.C White Scythians overran the Colchis.
What is the time period when Scythians were Black?
The Sycthians were always Black. The Sacae were 'white'.
What is the time period of the Scythians?
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