posted
The actual case is trivial: but the process of holding ignorant Negroes, in Africa and elsewhere, accountable for their own stupidity is absolutely necessary, if we are to retake our birthright.
Charles Barkley Slams ‘Unintelligent,’ ‘Brainwashed’ Black People for Holding Successful Ones Back.
posted
^Part of the problem with the Negro: aside from his abject stupidity - after all, this idiot believed everything that his proven enemy (the Albino man), told him about himself and the world.
But in addition to that, is his ignorance about the world around him. The people below are all the same people (Solomon Islanders), yet you know a Negro in Africa or the U.S. (an expat. African), would have something to say.
As you should realize from the 40 years of trend, Negro athletes and entertainers are an non-intellectual/apolitical group. In the case of Barkley, he got paid to run and jump, not think. What they do is not exactly rocket science, nor is it even comparable to being a chess master. so, like rappers, although albinos frequently give them an open forum, rarely does anything significant come out of their mouths.
The problem for blacks lies solely on disorganization and the success of the US CONINTEL program in identifying and eliminating any and all potential intellectual black leadership who could be effective in building viable black organizations. Look at Barkley. He speaks alone and has absolutely no following. This is the only kind of Negro albinos will allow to have a voice. Ask Barkley what his idea of black success is and his answer will definitely be some very shallow and financial focused response.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Part of the problem with the Negro: aside from his abject stupidity - after all, this idiot believed everything that his proven enemy (the Albino man), told him about himself and the world.
But in addition to that, is his ignorance about the world around him. The people below are all the same people (Solomon Islanders), yet you know a Negro in Africa or the U.S. (an expat. African), would have something to say.
Mike are these mulattos? What's with the hair??
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
To me, success is being synchronized with the universe and having the freedom and ability to master and utilize more than 50% of my mind. If I could achieve that, then anything in the universe is possible.
-------------------- Selenium gives real life and true reality Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
Throughout his career, Barkley had been arguing that athletes should not be considered role models.[6] He stated, "A million guys can dunk a basketball in jail; should they be role models?"[40] In 1993, his argument prompted national news when he wrote the text for his "I am not a role model" Nike commercial. Dan Quayle, the former Vice President of the United States, called it a "family-values message" for Barkley's oft-ignored call for parents and teachers to quit looking to him to "raise your kids" and instead be role models themselves.[39] Barkley's message sparked a great public debate about the nature of role models. He argued,
quote: I think the media demands that athletes be role models because there's some jealousy involved. It's as if they say, this is a young black kid playing a game for a living and making all this money, so we're going to make it tough on him. And what they're really doing is telling kids to look up to someone they can't become, because not many people can be like we are. Kids can't be like Michael Jordan.
Barkley is known for his compulsive gambling. In an interview with ESPN's Trey Wingo, Barkley revealed that he lost approximately $10 million through gambling.[67] In addition, he also admitted to losing $2.5 million, "in a six-hour period", while playing blackjack.[67] Although Barkley openly admits to his problem, he claims it is not serious since he can afford to support the habit.[67] When approached by fellow TNT broadcaster Ernie Johnson about the issue, Barkley replied, "It's not a problem. If you're a drug addict or an alcoholic, those are problems. I gamble for too much money. As long as I can continue to do it I don't think it's a problem. Do I think it's a bad habit? Yes, I think it's a bad habit. Am I going to continue to do it? Yes, I'm going to continue to do it."[68] Despite suffering big losses, Barkley also claims to have won on several occasions. During a trip to Las Vegas, he claims to have won $700,000 from playing blackjack and betting on the Indianapolis Colts to defeat the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XLI.[67] He went on to state, however, "No matter how much I win it ain't a lot. It's only a lot when I lose. And you always lose. I think it's fun, I think it's exciting. I'm gonna continue to do it but I have to get to a point where I don't try to break the casino 'cause you never can."[68] In May 2008, the Wynn Las Vegas casino filed a civil complaint against Barkley, alleging that he had failed to pay a $400,000 debt stemming from October 2007. Barkley responded by taking blame for letting time lapse on the repayment of the debt and promptly paid the casino.[69] After repaying his debt, Barkley stated during a pregame show on TNT, "I've got to stop gambling...I am not going to gamble anymore. For right now, the next year or two, I'm not going to gamble... Just because I can afford to lose money doesn't mean I should do it."[70] Politics[edit] Barkley spoke for many years of his Republican Party affiliation. In 1995, he considered running as a Republican candidate for Alabama's governorship in the 1998 election.[71] However, in 2006, he altered his political stance, stating "I was a Republican until they lost their minds."[72] At a July 2006 meeting of the Southern Regional Conference of the National School Boards Association in Destin, Florida, Barkley lent credence to the idea of running for Governor of Alabama, stating: I'm serious. I've got to get people to realize that the government is full of it. Republicans and Democrats want to argue over stuff that's not important, like gay marriage or the war in Iraq or illegal immigration... When I run — if I run — we're going to talk about real issues like improving our schools, cleaning up our neighborhoods of drugs and crime and making Alabama a better place for all people.[73] In September 2006, Barkley once again reiterated his desire to run for Governor. He noted, "I can't run until 2014 ... I have to live there for seven years, so I'm looking for a house there as we speak."[74] In July 2007, he made a video declaring his support for Barack Obama in the 2008 Presidential election.[75] In September 2007, during a broadcast on Monday Night Football, Barkley announced that he bought a house in Alabama to satisfy residency requirements for a 2014 campaign for governor. In addition, Barkley declared himself an Independent and not a Democrat as previously reported. "The Republicans are full of it," Barkley said, "The Democrats are a little less full of it."[74] In February 2008, Barkley announced that he would be running for Governor of Alabama in 2014 as an Independent. On October 27, 2008, he officially announced his candidacy for Governor of Alabama in an interview with CNN, stating that he planned to run in the 2014 election cycle,[7] but he began to back off the idea in a November 24, 2009 interview on The Jay Leno Show.[76] In 2010, he confirmed that he was not running in 2014.[8] Barkley is an outspoken supporter of gay rights. In 2006, he told Fox Sports: "I'm a big advocate of gay marriage. If they want to get married, God bless them."[77] Speaking to Wolf Blitzer on CNN two years later, he said: "Every time I hear the word 'conservative,' it makes me sick to my stomach, because they're really just fake Christians, as I call them. That's all they are. ... I think they want to be judge and jury. Like, I'm for gay marriage. It's none of my business if gay people want to get married. I'm pro-choice. And I think these Christians, first of all, they're not supposed to judge other people. But they're the most hypocritical judge of people we have in the country. And it bugs the hell out of me. They act like they're Christians. They're not forgiving at all."[77] During a 2011 Martin Luther King, Jr. Day double-header on TNT, Barkley responded to a statement by Dr. King's daughter Bernice by saying, "People try to make it about black and white. [But] he talked about equality for every man, every woman. We have a thing going on now, people discriminating against homosexuality in this country. I love the homosexuality people. God bless the gay people. They are great people."[77]
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
Then what sane parent would want their child to see Barkley as any form of role model. I definitely wouldn't want any of my children emulating this clown.
Although I have had many black elders coach and guide me in my development, personally, I have never seen them or thought of them as role models or someone that I should emulate. Rather, I thought of them more as mentors who were willing to impart to me some of their wisdom, knowledge and life experience.
Of course when Barkley responded to the issue of role model, the question was framed and presented by albinos, who as you should be aware, have no respect or any true black mentor.
-------------------- Selenium gives real life and true reality Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
King, Narmer's idea of success would be seeing his or her dream of Whites being exterminated come to pass. See unlike you Narmer has no conscience, no feeling heart.
Posts: 3257 | From: Madisonville, KY USA | Registered: Nov 2011
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: King, Narmer's idea of success would be seeing his or her dream of Whites being exterminated come to pass. See unlike you Narmer has no conscience, no feeling heart.
No excuse for Hate, Not Justified, Now Punishment for sins, YES. But forgiveness is what Jesus did for the Adulterus Woman.
All in All White People, Black People, Latinos, Asians, Indians and Native Americans belong to one family through Christ who sees no color. Sometimes I talk too much, and some times too little. The people gotta realize that Jesus will set us free and lead the human race to true freedom. But we can rally together until that blessed day
The revelation of God through his word, unites all people in Love.
Posts: 9651 | From: Reace and Love City. | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: King, Narmer's idea of success would be seeing his or her dream of Whites being exterminated come to pass. See unlike you Narmer has no conscience, no feeling heart.
you cant teach an old dog new tricks
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: King, Narmer's idea of success would be seeing his or her dream of Whites being exterminated come to pass. See unlike you Narmer has no conscience, no feeling heart.
No excuse for Hate, Not Justified, Now Punishment for sins, YES. But forgiveness is what Jesus did for the Adulterus Woman.
All in All White People, Black People, Latinos, Asians, Indians and Native Americans belong to one family through Christ who sees no color. Sometimes I talk too much, and some times too little. The people gotta realize that Jesus will set us free and lead the human race to true freedom. But we can rally together until that blessed day
The revelation of God through his word, unites all people in Love.
Jesus had 12 disciples who for years he taught esoteric knowledge. As a result of his teachings, In the end what he said to them was, "You don't understand the words that are coming out of my mouth".
From listening to your mindless ramblings, I can see that you have no idea who the man was or what his messages contained. All you are doing is mindlessly repeating white indoctrinations.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Jesus had 12 disciples who for years he taught esoteric knowledge. As a result of his teachings, In the end what he said to them was, "You don't understand the words that are coming out of my mouth".
From listening to your mindless ramblings, I can see that you have no idea who the man was or what his messages contained. All you are doing is mindlessly repeating white indoctrinations.
where did you get this quote
:"You don't understand the words that are coming out of my mouth".
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Jesus had 12 disciples who for years he taught esoteric knowledge. As a result of his teachings, In the end what he said to them was, "You don't understand the words that are coming out of my mouth".
From listening to your mindless ramblings, I can see that you have no idea who the man was or what his messages contained. All you are doing is mindlessly repeating white indoctrinations.
where did you get this quote
:"You don't understand the words that are coming out of my mouth".
LOL. It's not literal, but this is what he meant. That after all the time with him, they still failed to understand his true teachings.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
I do not understand why it is always assumed that professional sports do not require cognitive ability-Charles Barkley et al.How could people believe that sports is just physical? Sports are governed by complex rules just like chess. I have watched enough sports in my lifetime to appreciate the cognitive ability- nuanced or not,the game of cricket come to mind played by the English speaking Caribbean and we were World Champions 1980-1995.A recent study done by Neuroscientist in 2013 confirm that professional athletes don't just have better cognitive ability for the demand of their respective sports their brains are better in adapting at a fundamental level.Naturenews.com
Posts: 121 | From: Guyana | Registered: Mar 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: King, Narmer's idea of success would be seeing his or her dream of Whites being exterminated come to pass. See unlike you Narmer has no conscience, no feeling heart.
No excuse for Hate, Not Justified, Now Punishment for sins, YES. But forgiveness is what Jesus did for the Adulterus Woman.
All in All White People, Black People, Latinos, Asians, Indians and Native Americans belong to one family through Christ who sees no color. Sometimes I talk too much, and some times too little. The people gotta realize that Jesus will set us free and lead the human race to true freedom. But we can rally together until that blessed day
The revelation of God through his word, unites all people in Love.
Jesus had 12 disciples who for years he taught esoteric knowledge. As a result of his teachings, In the end what he said to them was, "You don't understand the words that are coming out of my mouth".
From listening to your mindless ramblings, I can see that you have no idea who the man was or what his messages contained. All you are doing is mindlessly repeating white indoctrinations.
Narmer, What was Jesus message then. Jesus was the Son of God.
Posts: 9651 | From: Reace and Love City. | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
^ Your level of comprehension prohibits you from understanding. Buddha gave Asians Sutras and Kong Fu because their bodies and minds were too weak for true enlightenment.
-------------------- Selenium gives real life and true reality Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Your level of comprehension prohibits you from understanding. Buddha gave Asians Sutras and Kong Fu because their bodies and minds were too weak for true enlightenment.
Narmer Im a faithful follower of Jesus Christ, Anything that has to do with my Shepherd, I will understand.
Posts: 9651 | From: Reace and Love City. | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
edit: Jesus IS The Son of God. I accidentally wrote it wrong in my other post.
Posts: 9651 | From: Reace and Love City. | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
Doesn't matter. Is was were, it's all relative to the standard and ancient practice of deification in organized brainwashing, I mean religion. In this case, King is regurgitating the words of Paul, not Yeshua.
LOL. At his level of thinking he may as well be an Thor, son of Odin worshipper.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
Okay then, lacking a proper topic to discuss, let us then turn to something that was a curiosity to me when I first read a history of Christianity.
Christianity – the beginning.
Christianity began as a movement within Judaism at a period when the Hebrews had long been under foreign influence and rule, and had found in their religion the linchpin of their community, (rather than in their politics or cultural achievements). From the prophet Amos (800 B.C.) onward, the religion of Israel was marked by tension between the concept of monotheism, with its universal ideal of salvation (for all nations), and the exclusivity of the notion of God's special choice of Israel, coupled with those who accepted neither concept.
In the age after Alexander the Greats conquest, (the Hellenistic (Greek) period, 300 B.C. to 300 A.D.), the dispersion of the Hebrews throughout the Hellenistic kingdoms and later, the Roman Empire, gave some impetus to the universalistic tendency. But the attempts of foreign rulers, especially the Greek King of Syria - Antiochus Epiphanes (168–165 B.C.), to impose Greek culture and religious syncretism in Palestine, provoked zealous resistance on the part of many Hebrews. In Judea, the predominant call was for separation and exclusiveness. Hebrew missionaries to other areas were strictly expected to impose the Hebrew customs of circumcision, kasher (fit) food, Sabbaths and other festivals.
The Hebrew Scriptures viewed history as the stage of a providential drama, which would eventually end in a triumph of God, over all present sources of frustration (foreign domination, the sins of man, etc.). They believed that God's rule would be established by an anointed prince, (a Messiah), of the line of David – (former king of Israel in the 10th century B.C.). However, the proper course of action leading to the consummation of this drama was the subject of some disagreement.
Among the diverse Hebrew groups, were the aristocratic and conservative Sadducees, who accepted only the five books of Moses (the Pentateuch), then there were the more popular and strict Pharisees. The Pharisees not only accepted biblical books outside the Pentateuch but also embraced doctrines - such as those on resurrection and the existence of angels – which was of recent acceptance in Judaism - many of which were derived from apocalyptic expectations that the consummation of history would be heralded by God's intervention in the affairs of men in dramatic, cataclysmic terms.
The Sanhedrin (supreme Hebrew legislative and judicial court) at Jerusalem was made up of both Pharisees and Sadducees. The Zealots were aggressive revolutionaries seeking independence from Rome. Other groups were the Herodians, supporters of the client kingdom of the Herods (a dynasty that supported Rome) and abhorrent to the Zealots, and the Essenes - a quasi-monastic dissident group, probably including the sect that preserved the Dead Sea Scrolls. This latter sect did not participate in the Temple worship at Jerusalem, and observed another religious calendar; from their desert retreat they awaited divine intervention and searched prophetic writings for signs indicating the consummation.
What relationship the followers of Jesus had to some of these groups is not clear. In the canonical Gospels (those accepted as authentic by the Catholic church) the main targets of criticism are the scribes and Pharisees, whose attachment to the tradition of Judaism is presented as legalistic and disreputable. The Sadducees and Herodians, likewise receive an unfriendly portrait, the Essenes are never mentioned. Jesus himself may have been a Zealot, as well as Simon, one of Jesus’ twelve disciples.
Under the military and political conditions of the time, there could be no future for either the Sadducees or the Zealots - whose attempts to make apocalyptic predictions come true, led to the destruction of Judea after two major Hebrew revolts of 66–70 A.D, and 132–135 A.D, against the Romans.
Thus the choice for many Hebrews lay between the Pharisees and Christianity, the former dedicated to the meticulous preservation of the Mosaic Law, and Christianity – as later defined by Europeans - the universal propagation of the Christian version of the Hebrew faith, as a religion for all mankind, (Catholic means universalistic).
Pharisaism as enshrined in the Mishna (the Oral Law), and the Talmud (commentary on, and addition to the Oral Law), became normal Judaism. By looking to the Gentile (non-Hebrew) world and carefully disassociating itself from the Zealot revolutionaries, Christianity (as construed by Europeans who had converted), made possible the ideal of a world religion, at the price of sacrificing Hebrew particularity and exclusiveness. The fact that Christianity has never succeeded in gaining the open allegiance of more than a minority of Hebrews is more a mystery to theologians than to historians.
There are indications that Christianity was intended initially, as exclusively a religion for Hebrews – Jesus himself was against the empirical power of the European conquers. It appears that it was Paul – a self appointed apostle "after" Jesus death – who forced acceptance of gentile converts. How or why the gentile converts were granted acceptance in the Jerusalem church under Jesus’ brother James is not known.
Saint Paul, the Apostle
born AD 10?, Tarsus in Cilicia [Turkey] - died 67?, Rome
Original name Saul of Tarsus, 1st-century Hebrew who, after first being a bitter enemy of Christianity, later became an important figure in its history.
Converted only a few years after the death of Jesus, he became the leading Apostle (missionary) of the new movement and played a decisive part in extending it beyond the limits of Judaism to become a worldwide religion. His surviving letters are the earliest extant Christian writings.
Paul himself claimed the title of Apostle, apparently on the ground that he had seen the Lord and received a commission directly from him. This appears to be in agreement with the condition in Acts that a newly appointed Apostle should be capable of giving eyewitness testimony to the Lord's Resurrection. According to some early Christian writers however, some were called apostles after the period covered by the New Testament.
In the first Christian generation, authority in the church lay either in the kinsmen of Jesus or in those whom he had commissioned as Apostles and missionaries. The Jerusalem church under James, the brother of Jesus, was the mother church. Paul admitted that if they had refused to grant recognition to his Gentile converts; he would have labored in vain. If there was an attempt to establish a hereditary family overlordship in the church (by James’ descendants), it did not succeed, although among the Gentile congregations, the Apostles sent by Jesus enjoyed supreme authority. As long as the Apostles lived, there existed a living authoritative voice to which appeal could be made. But once they all had died, there was an acute question: who is in charge? The earliest documents of the 3rd. and 4th. Christian generations are mainly concerned with this issue: what is the authority of the ministerial hierarchy?
The Apostolic (European) congregations, had normally been served by elders called (presbyteroi,“priests”) or overseers (episkopoi, bishops”), assisted by attendants (diakonoi, deacons”). The clergy were responsible for preaching, administering baptism and Eucharist, and for distributing aid to the poor. In each city the president or senior member of the college (assembly) of presbyters naturally had some special authority; he corresponded with other churches and, when they were ordaining a new president, would go as the representative of his own community and as a symbol of the catholicity - the universality and unity - of the church of Christ.
Ignatius, bishop of Antioch early in the 2nd century, wrote seven letters on his way to martyrdom at Rome, that indicate how critical the centrifugal forces in the church had made the problem of authority. The bishop, he insisted, is the unique focus of unity without whose authority there is no sacrament and no church. A few years earlier, the letter of Bishop Clement of Rome (95 A.D.) to the church at Corinth based the hierarchy's authority on the concept of a historical succession of duly authorized teachers. Clement understood the clergy and laity to be essentially distinct orders within the one community, just as in the Old Testament there were high priests, priests, Levites (Temple functionaries), and laymen. The principles of Clement and Ignatius became important when the church was faced by people claiming recognition for their special charismatic (spiritual) gifts and especially by Gnostic heretics claiming to possess secret oral traditions whispered by Jesus to his disciples and not contained in publicly accessible records such as the Gospels.
Early Christianity was predominantly urban; peasants on farms were deeply attached to old ways and followed the paganism favored by most aristocratic landowners. By 400 A.D. some landowners had converted and built churches on their property, providing a “benefice” for the priest, who might often be one of the magnate's servants. In the East and in North Africa (now under Roman control), each township normally had its own bishop. In the Western provinces bishops were fewer and were responsible for larger areas, which from the 4th century onward, were called by the secular term dioceses (administrative districts). In the 4th century pressure to bring Western custom into line with Eastern, and to add more bishops was resisted on the ground that it would diminish the bishops' social status.
Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
^I always wondered how a Black and Jewish and Levantine religion, like Christianity: could wind up being a mixed-race Greek and Roman European religion (the Byzantine Empire was actually Greek). Initially I thought that Europeans took control of the religion through the machinations of Paul. But recently someone said to me that Jesus was solely the creation of Constantine.
Religion is not something that I research, so I'm just throwing this stuff out there in case someone wants to pursue it.
Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
^ Saul had never met Yeshua in person, and there are many accounts of Saul and his followers harassing and even physically assaulting, nearly murdering James at the church he led. Yeshua was often quoted as referring to Saul as, The spouter of lies. Yeshua was not of the Sadducees, Pharisees, or temple sects. All of these sects advocated animal sacrifice at the temple. Remeber the only instances in the Bible where Yeshua loss his temper and went berserk bashing people and furniture with a stick was at the temple during sacrifice. Yeshua was not of the Sadducees, sacrifices while Yeshua was totally against the sacrifice of blood. Saul and the Roman church were pro-sacrifice. Saul went so far as to intentionally contradict Yeshua in this regard and state that Yeshua didn't know what he was talking about.
Yeshua was an Essenes member, a group with very strong Buddhism influences and unlike the Sadducee and Pharisee sects, opposed animal sacrificial rituals, slavery, capitalism and Rome. Essenes were primarily focused on gaining enlightenment through community, performing good deeds and righteous living.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
LOL Lioness, no Narmer & Mike are not the emissaries of satan, they ARE satan ROTFLMBO. Seriously though both are Black racist, Black supremacists, who have no conscience, have no feeling heart in them, who hate White people.
Posts: 3257 | From: Madisonville, KY USA | Registered: Nov 2011
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Yeshua was an Essenes member, a group with very strong Buddhism influences and unlike the Sadducee and Pharisee sects, opposed animal sacrificial rituals, slavery, capitalism and Rome. Essenes were primarily focused on gaining enlightenment through community, performing good deeds and righteous living.
WOW!!!
You brought up something that I had never thought about - HOW CHRISTIANITY circa 100 A.D.
WAS INFLUENCED BY THE "OLDER" RELIGION IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA: Bhuddism circa 600 - 400 B.C.
Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: LOL Lioness, no Narmer & Mike are not the emissaries of satan, they ARE satan ROTFLMBO. Seriously though both are Black racist, Black supremacists, who have no conscience, have no feeling heart in them, who hate White people.
I love you Doxie, albinism and all. You can't help that you are afflicted with defect any more than the "lepers". I hate nothing about you and only want your mind to be free. All suffering is caused by illusions and you compulsive craving to embrace them. Let the illusions go, and you are released from suffering.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Yeshua was an Essenes member, a group with very strong Buddhism influences and unlike the Sadducee and Pharisee sects, opposed animal sacrificial rituals, slavery, capitalism and Rome. Essenes were primarily focused on gaining enlightenment through community, performing good deeds and righteous living.
WOW!!!
You brought up something that I had never thought about - HOW CHRISTIANITY circa 100 A.D.
WAS INFLUENCED BY THE "OLDER" RELIGION IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA: Bhuddism circa 600 - 400 B.C.
True dat, but even earlier at 300 BC to 30CE and beyond
I know you don't have much interest in religion, but the Essenes sect is well worth researching. They were the top of the heap of the sects and once you research them you realize the many parallels in their principles, daily living, beliefs with Buddhists who were also very represented in the religion for hundreds of years before the birth of Yeshua, Joseph and Moses.
Dr. Winters has made it clear that the Buddhists were very influential in the region so it's no surprise that an Gnostic sect would integrate their philosophies and teachings.
This applies to the Essenes and not so much for the other sects, the Roman church or the God that King and most Negro Baptists embrace. They were and are more opposites of Buddhist philosophy.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
^Btw - What is it with Albinos and their Mulattoes - in this case their Mongol mulattoes:
When I went to Wiki to confirm the date of Bhuddism, I saw this:
Standing Buddha statue at the Tokyo National Museum.
.
KING - I bet that even you knows that Buddha was a "Native" Black man of India. (As opposed to the Invading so-called "Aryan" Albinos from Central Asia).
posted
^ That's more a cultural thing, I guess. Most Indian and Chinese bio pics of the history of Buddha actually state that he was a dark Indian who lived for 180+ years. But as albinos do, even indian and chinese albinos recreated his image to resemble their own. This first cave drawing on Buddha is one of the oldest and look how African the females around him appear.
posted
What always puzzled me was why Chinese often illustrate Buddha as a fat man. In legend,Buddha was a strict vegaterian who was a master in martial arts and a story exists where he was mistreated by a ferry operator who refused to ferry him across the river, so he leaped from floating reed to floating reed until he had crossed alone. Also, stories say that he often fasted for months at a time. Doesn't sound like the odds of him being a fat person.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
^My guess is that then, as today, a "Normal" Black man was too intimidating to Albinos and their Mulattoes, to be seen as benevolent. But a "FAT" Black man, well, that's an entirely different story. i.e. "Fat and Jolly".
Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
This is the oldest depction of Buddha on the page . That is why Mike leaves out the dates The oldest Buddhas were made about 600 years after his death in Gandhara
quote:Originally posted by Mike111
One of the first representations of the Buddha, 1st-2nd century CE, Gandhara: Standing Buddha (Tokyo National Museum)
Ghandara was an ancient kingdom in whay is now in modern-day states of northern Pakistan and northeastern Afghanistan. The Kingdom of Gandhara lasted from the Vedic period (c. 1500-500 BC). As a center of Hindu culture and Buddhist culture, it attained its height from the 1st century to the 5th century under the Kushan Kings.
, Alexander the Great conquered this region and, together with the Indo-Greek kings that succeeded him, introduced classical traditions that became an important part of Gandhara's artistic taste over the next seven centuries. This contact resulted in the establishment of overland trade routes through the Parthian empire and Indo-Greek cities like Ai-Khanoum in northern Afghanistan. Starting about 50 B.C., this trade dramatically increased with the introduction of ocean routes employing monsoon winds to cross the Arabian Sea. These sea routes supplied an expanding overland trade network that passed through Gandhara and continued on to Central Asia and China. Gandharan control of the high mountain passes vital to this international commerce made the region wealthy; the resulting cosmopolitan elites became some of the most powerful Buddhist patrons in all of South Asia.
Buddhism probably reached Gandhara as early as the third century B.C.; by the beginning of the second century B.C., archaeological remains begin to appear. It is not until the first century A.D., however, that this new religion received significant local patronage. Typically, a Buddhist center was comprised of monastic housing adjacent to a public sacred area that had at its center a stupa (a solid domed structure) containing relics of the Buddha.
Following Alexander’s invasion, Gandhara’s early history is characterized by political instability as successive groups took control of the prosperous region; they included the Indo-Greeks, Shakas, Parthians, Scythians, and ultimately, in the first century A.D., the Kushan dynasty, which captured this area as well as much of north India and northern Afghanistan (ancient Bactria and Nagarahara). Mos
The majority of western historians of India consider the year 563 BC as being the birth-year of the Buddha and also the earliest assured date in Indian history. About 600 years later between the 2nd century BCE and the 1st century CE, the first human representations of the Buddha were developed in Gandhara (today’s northern Pakistan). These were absent from earlier Buddhist art, which preferred to represent the Buddha with symbols such as the stupa, the Bodhi tree, the empty seat, the wheel, or the footprints.
Greco-Buddhist art is the artistic manifestation of Greco-Buddhism, a cultural syncretism between the Classical Greek culture and Buddhism, which developed over a period of close to 1000 years in Central Asia, between the conquests of Alexander the Great in the 4th century BCE, and the Islamic conquests of the 7th century CE. Greco-Buddhist art is characterized by the strong idealistic realism and sensuous description and of Hellenistic art and the first representations of the Buddha in human form, which have helped define the artistic (and particularly, sculptural) canon for Buddhist art throughout the Asian continent up to the present. It is also a strong example of cultural syncretism between eastern and western traditions. The origins of Greco-Buddhist art are to be found in the Hellenistic Greco-Bactrian kingdom (250 BCE- 130 BCE), located in today’s Afghanistan, from which Hellenistic culture radiated into the Indian subcontinent with the establishment of the Indo-Greek kingdom (180 BCE-10 BCE). Under the Indo-Greeks and then the Kushans, the interaction of Greek and Buddhist culture flourished in the area of Gandhara, before spreading further into India, influencing the art of Mathura, and then the Hindu art of the Gupta empire, which was to extend to the rest of South-East Asia. The influence of Greco-Buddhist art also spread northward towards Central Asia, strongly affecting the art of the Tarim Basin, and ultimately the arts of China, Korea, and Japan. Hellenistic kingdoms established cities on the Greek model, such as in Ai-Khanoum in Bactria, displaying purely Hellenistic architectural features, Hellenistic statuary, and remains of Aristotelician papyrus prints and coin hoards. These Greek elements penetrated in northwestern India following the invasion of the Greco-Bactrians in 180 BCE, when they established the Indo-Greek kingdom in India. Fortified Greek cities, such as Sirkap in northern Pakistan, were established. Architectural styles used Hellenistic decorative motifs such as fruit garland and scrolls. Stone palettes for aromatic oils representing purely Hellenistic themes such as a Nereid riding a Ketos sea monster are found. In Hadda, Hellenistic deities, such as Atlas are found. Wind gods are depicted, which will affect the representation of wind deities as far as Japan. Dionysiac scenes represent people in Classical style drinking wine from amphoras and playing instruments.As soon as the Greeks invaded India to form the Indo-Greek kingdom, a fusion of Hellenistic and Buddhist elements started to appear, encouraged by the benevolence of the Greek kings towards Buddhism. This artistic trend then developed for several centuries and seemed to flourish further during the Kushan Empire from the 1st century CEFoucher especially considered Hellenistic free-standing Buddhas as "the most beautiful, and probably the most ancient of the Buddhas", assigning them to the 1st century BCE, and making them the starting point of the anthropomorphic representations of the Buddha ("The Buddhist art of Gandhara", Marshall, p101) Greco-Buddhist head of Buddha, stucco, Hadda, Afghanistan, 1st-2nd century CE.
_______________________________________
A reclining Buddha statue is part of the rock-cut Ajanta Caves in north-central Maharashtra state, India.
The first Buddhist cave monuments at Ajanta date from the 2nd and 1st centuries B.C. During the Gupta period (5th and 6th centuries A.D.), many more richly decorated caves were added to the original group. The paintings and sculptures of Ajanta, considered masterpieces of Buddhist religious art, have had a considerable artistic influence.
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
Gnosticism is a philosophy that refers to a body of teachings that stress the acquisition of “gnosis,” or inner knowledge. This knowledge is not mere intellectual, but mystical knowledge; not merely knowing about something or someone, but a mystical knowledge that comes from within each of us. This special mystical knowledge allows us to discover an esoteric divine nature within each of us that is obscured by ignorance and false teaching about God and Jesus.
Gnosticism appeals to many self-proclaimed intellectuals who are searching for some kind of unique spiritual experience and spiritual enlightenment. posession of the masses, but only to the Gnostics (the Knowers) who truly understand its benefits and how to attain it. To the Gnostic, the masses are trapped in the ignorance of religious teaching and doctrine that serves to control and regulate the conduct of believers. The Gnostic, on the other hand, believes he has pierced through the ignorance and trappings of organized religion and has reached the core of special spiritual knowledge about God and the God-nature in each of us. The only problem is that this “core of special spiritual knowledge” of God and the God-nature is a “core of special spiritual knowledge” of their own creation. In reality, this special enlightened spiritual knowledge claimed by the Gnostic simply doesn’t exist.
The Gnostic Message
So, what do these Gnostic Gospels actually teach that caused them to be labeled as heresy by early Christians? For example, Gnosticism teaches that the universe and the world was not created by an all-knowing God, but by a lesser god, who lacked the intellect to create a perfect universe. The Gospel of Philip says that “the world came about through a mistake. For he who created it wanted to create it imperishable and immortal. He fell short of attaining his desire.” It is believed that this lesser god came from fall out among cosmic beings, making him a substandard deity. The result of his creation was a universe polluted with ignorance, pain, decay and death. And yet this deity demands worship and even proclaims himself to be the one true God.
The Gnostic belief, as one theory has it, is that this inept creator-god accidentally infused into humanity a spark of the highest form of a so-called “spiritual reality.” And that perfection can be attained through a process of self-discovery. Closely coupled with this desire to attain the highest form of spiritual reality through self-discovery is the belief that the spirit is good and desirable, but matter and the flesh is evil and detestable.
This is where the Gnostic Jesus begins to emerge, not as a sacrifice for sin, but as one who descended from one of the higher spiritual realms with a message of self-redemption. He is not the son of the creator-god revealed in the Old Testament – the creator-god who got the universe into a royal mess in the first place. Rather, Jesus came to assist humanity with achieving enlightenment through self-discovery, and not as the means of eternal salvation through his death, burial and resurrection.
The Gnostic Jesus is a remarkable counterfeit of the biblical Jesus in that the Gnostic concept of Jesus borrows closely from the Jesus of scripture and gives a “Gnostic spin” to the teachings of Jesus found in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and in the writings of the apostles. Since Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36) and “the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21), the Gnostic belief is that Jesus came to awaken those trapped in ignorance (often called “darkness” by Jesus) by helping them to discover the “kingdom of God” within themselves.
The Gnostic Gospels frequently speak of the ultimate reality or godhead as beyond the comprehension of mankind and that to contact this reality requires one to go through numerous intermediary beings of lesser stature than the godhead itself.
For example, the Gospel of the Egyptians says the ultimate reality is the, “unrevealable, unmarked, ageless, unproclaimable Father.” He is described as “the great invisible Spirit” who is “the silence of silent silence.” In the Sophia of Jesus Christ, Matthew asks Jesus, “Lord… teach us the truth,” to which Jesus replies, “He Who Is, is ineffable… He is unnameable… he is ever incomprehensible.”
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Egyptian city of Nag Hammadi
The Gnostic Message
Gnosticism teaches that the universe and the world was not created by an all-knowing God, but by a lesser god, who lacked the intellect to create a perfect universe. The Gospel of Philip says that “the world came about through a mistake. For he who created it wanted to create it imperishable and immortal. He fell short of attaining his desire.” It is believed that this lesser god came from fall out among cosmic beings, making him a substandard deity. The result of his creation was a universe polluted with ignorance, pain, decay and death. And yet this deity demands worship and even proclaims himself to be the one true God.
The Gnostic belief, as one theory has it, is that this inept creator-god accidentally infused into humanity a spark of the highest form of a so-called “spiritual reality.” And that perfection can be attained through a process of self-discovery. Closely coupled with this desire to attain the highest form of spiritual reality through self-discovery is the belief that the spirit is good and desirable, but matter and the flesh is evil and detestable.
This is where the Gnostic Jesus begins to emerge, not as a sacrifice for sin, but as one who descended from one of the higher spiritual realms with a message of self-redemption. He is not the son of the creator-god revealed in the Old Testament – the creator-god who got the universe into a royal mess in the first place. Rather, Jesus came to assist humanity with achieving enlightenment through self-discovery, and not as the means of eternal salvation through his death, burial and resurrection.
The Gnostic Jesus is a remarkable counterfeit of the biblical Jesus in that the Gnostic concept of Jesus borrows closely from the Jesus of scripture and gives a “Gnostic spin” to the teachings of Jesus found in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and in the writings of the apostles. Since Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36) and “the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21), the Gnostic belief is that Jesus came to awaken those trapped in ignorance (often called “darkness” by Jesus) by helping them to discover the “kingdom of God” within themselves.
This is what you believe ?
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
Look at Barkley. He speaks alone and has absolutely no following. This is the only kind of Negro albinos will allow to have a voice. Ask Barkley what his idea of black success is and his answer will definitely be some very shallow and financial focused response.
Mike, Charles Barkley, black or negro ?
Can we get some real blacks in here?
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
Narmerthoth an Associated Press poll out Tuesday found Obama has an 85 percent approval rating among blacks
If you were to give him a rating, not just approve or disapprove but on a scale of 0-100% what would you give him?
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Egyptian city of Nag Hammadi
The Gnostic Message
Gnosticism teaches that the universe and the world was not created by an all-knowing God, but by a lesser god, who lacked the intellect to create a perfect universe. The Gospel of Philip says that “the world came about through a mistake. For he who created it wanted to create it imperishable and immortal. He fell short of attaining his desire.” It is believed that this lesser god came from fall out among cosmic beings, making him a substandard deity. The result of his creation was a universe polluted with ignorance, pain, decay and death. And yet this deity demands worship and even proclaims himself to be the one true God.
The Gnostic belief, as one theory has it, is that this inept creator-god accidentally infused into humanity a spark of the highest form of a so-called “spiritual reality.” And that perfection can be attained through a process of self-discovery. Closely coupled with this desire to attain the highest form of spiritual reality through self-discovery is the belief that the spirit is good and desirable, but matter and the flesh is evil and detestable.
This is where the Gnostic Jesus begins to emerge, not as a sacrifice for sin, but as one who descended from one of the higher spiritual realms with a message of self-redemption. He is not the son of the creator-god revealed in the Old Testament – the creator-god who got the universe into a royal mess in the first place. Rather, Jesus came to assist humanity with achieving enlightenment through self-discovery, and not as the means of eternal salvation through his death, burial and resurrection.
The Gnostic Jesus is a remarkable counterfeit of the biblical Jesus in that the Gnostic concept of Jesus borrows closely from the Jesus of scripture and gives a “Gnostic spin” to the teachings of Jesus found in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and in the writings of the apostles. Since Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36) and “the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21), the Gnostic belief is that Jesus came to awaken those trapped in ignorance (often called “darkness” by Jesus) by helping them to discover the “kingdom of God” within themselves.
This is what you believe ?
No. I just posted because of the similarities to Buddhism/Taoism where Buddha is an intermediate enlightened spiritual entity associated with Gods and immortals who were flawed relative to a higher universal entity.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Narmerthoth an Associated Press poll out Tuesday found Obama has an 85 percent approval rating among blacks
If you were to give him a rating, not just approve or disapprove but on a scale of 0-100% what would you give him?
I don't rate. I only endorse or not. Neither Democrats or Republicans gain my endorsement.
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] Narmerthoth an Associated Press poll out Tuesday found Obama has an 85 percent approval rating among blacks
If you were to give him a rating, not just approve or disapprove but on a scale of 0-100% what would you give him?
I don't rate. I only endorse or not.
why not?
I'll check with Mike, you're too scared for this one
Mike, plain and simple How do you rate Obama so far on a 0-100% ??
please don't run scared on us like Narmertot
Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] Narmerthoth an Associated Press poll out Tuesday found Obama has an 85 percent approval rating among blacks
If you were to give him a rating, not just approve or disapprove but on a scale of 0-100% what would you give him?
I don't rate. I only endorse or not.
why not? scared ?
What!? In your mind, what would be the source of this fear? I don't understand. Please explain?
Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
| IP: Logged |
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic