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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OatO13H89Uk

Along Gaddafi's Road (Libya Documentary) - Real Stories

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Thanks for the video.

It is clear that we were lied too about how ALL the people were treated in Libya.

Sadly, racism was not just experienced by the non-Libyan Blacks, it appears that if you were not Arab or Turk you were generally mistreated.

Looking at this video reminded me of growing up on the Southside of Chicago. The only difference was that the people in the South spoke Arabic.

It reminded me of the life I knew between the Right, and the Thuglife--people trying to survive. I hated those days because it made some people do anything to survive.

I knew God so I did not succumb to the Thuglife--but I understand those who did.

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^Blacks MUST take back COASTAL North Africa from the Mulattoes and Albinos!

There is no other way to achieve peace.

Sadly, in order to do that, they must depend on the idiot Sub-Saharan's.

Several of which supported the Europeans usurpation of Gaddafi's government.


For those wanting to know how North Africa got like it is:

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/North_Africa/North_African_History.htm

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Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention

By Brad Hoff | Jan 6, 2016 | Africa, News & Analysis,



Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention.

The New Year’s Eve release of over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails from the State Department has CNN abuzz over gossipy text messages, the “who gets to ride with Hillary” selection process set up by her staff, and how a “cute” Hillary photo fared on Facebook.

But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails: admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U.S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves threatening European currency.
Hillary’s Death Squads

A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief [archived here] on Libya, sent by long time close adviser to the Clintons and Hillary’s unofficial intelligence gatherer, Sidney Blumenthal, contains clear evidence of war crimes on the part of NATO-backed rebels. Citing a rebel commander source “speaking in strict confidence” Blumenthal reports to Hillary [emphasis mine]:

Under attack from allied Air and Naval forces, the Libyan Army troops have begun to desert to the rebel side in increasing numbers. The rebels are making an effort to greet these troops as fellow Libyans, in an effort to encourage additional defections.

(Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting…).

While the illegality of extra-judicial killings is easy to recognize (groups engaged in such are conventionally termed “death squads”), the sinister reality behind the “foreign mercenaries” reference might not be as immediately evident to most.

While over the decades Gaddafi was known to make use of European and other international security and infrastructural contractors, there is no evidence to suggest that these were targeted by the Libyan rebels.

There is, however, ample documentation by journalists, academics, and human rights groups demonstrating that black Libyan civilians and sub-Saharan contract workers, a population favored by Gaddafi in his pro-African Union policies, were targets of “racial cleansing” by rebels who saw black Libyans as tied closely with the regime.

Black Libyans were commonly branded as “foreign mercenaries” by the rebel opposition for their perceived general loyalty to Gaddafi as a community and subjected to torture, executions, and their towns “liberated” by ethnic cleansing. This is demonstrated in the most well-documented example of Tawergha, an entire town of 30,000 black and “dark-skinned” Libyans which vanished by August 2011 after its takeover by NATO-backed NTC Misratan brigades.

These attacks were well-known as late as 2012 and often filmed, as this report from The Telegraph confirms:

After Muammar Gaddafi was killed, hundreds of migrant workers from neighboring states were imprisoned by fighters allied to the new interim authorities. They accuse the black Africans of having been mercenaries for the late ruler. Thousands of sub-Saharan Africans have been rounded up since Gaddafi fell in August.

It appears that Clinton was getting personally briefed on the battlefield crimes of her beloved anti-Gaddafi fighters long before some of the worst of these genocidal crimes took place.
Al-Qaeda and Western Special Forces Inside Libya

The same intelligence email from Sydney Blumenthal also confirms what has become a well-known theme of Western supported insurgencies in the Middle East: the contradiction of special forces training militias that are simultaneously suspected of links to Al Qaeda.

Blumenthal relates that “an extremely sensitive source” confirmed that British, French, and Egyptian special operations units were training Libyan militants along the Egyptian-Libyan border, as well as in Benghazi suburbs.

While analysts have long speculated as to the “when and where” of Western ground troop presence in the Libyan War, this email serves as definitive proof that special forces were on the ground only within a month of the earliest protests which broke out in the middle to end of February 2011 in Benghazi.

By March 27 of what was commonly assumed a simple “popular uprising” external special operatives were already “overseeing the transfer of weapons and supplies to the rebels” including “a seemingly endless supply of AK47 assault rifles and ammunition.”

Yet only a few paragraphs after this admission, caution is voiced about the very militias these Western special forces were training because of concern that, “radical/terrorist groups such as the Libyan Fighting Groups and Al Qa’ida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) are infiltrating the NLC and its military command.”
The Threat of Libya’s Oil and Gold to French Interests

Though the French-proposed U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 claimed the no-fly zone implemented over Libya was to protect civilians, an April 2011 email [archived here] sent to Hillary with the subject line “France’s client and Qaddafi’s gold” tells of less noble ambitions.

The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.”

Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves, estimated at “143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver,” posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency. In place of the noble sounding “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) doctrine fed to the public, there is this “confidential” explanation of what was really driving the war [emphasis mine]:

This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA).

(Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya.)

Though this internal email aims to summarize the motivating factors driving France’s (and by implication NATO’s) intervention in Libya, it is interesting to note that saving civilian lives is conspicuously absent from the briefing.

Instead, the great fear reported is that Libya might lead North Africa into a high degree of economic independence with a new pan-African currency.

French intelligence “discovered” a Libyan initiative to freely compete with European currency through a local alternative, and this had to be subverted through military aggression.

The Ease of Floating Crude Propaganda

Early in the Libyan conflict Secretary of State Clinton formally accused Gaddafi and his army of using mass rape as a tool of war. Though numerous international organizations, like Amnesty International, quickly debunked these claims, the charges were uncritically echoed by Western politicians and major media.

It seemed no matter how bizarre the conspiracy theory, as long as it painted Gaddafi and his supporters as monsters, and so long as it served the cause of prolonged military action in Libya, it was deemed credible by network news.

Two foremost examples are referenced in the latest batch of emails: the sensational claim that Gaddafi issued Viagra to his troops for mass rape, and the claim that bodies were “staged” by the Libyan government at NATO bombing sites to give the appearance of the Western coalition bombing civilians.

In a late March 2011 email, Blumenthal confesses to Hillary that,

I communicated more than a week ago on this story—Qaddafi placing bodies to create PR stunts about supposed civilian casualties as a result of Allied bombing—though underlining it was a rumor. But now, as you know, Robert gates gives credence to it. (See story below.)

Sources now say, again rumor (that is, this information comes from the rebel side and is unconfirmed independently by Western intelligence), that Qaddafi has adopted a rape policy and has even distributed Viagra to troops. The incident at the Tripoli press conference involving a woman claiming to be raped is likely to be part of a much larger outrage. Will seek further confirmation.

Not only did Defense Secretary Robert Gates promote his bizarre “staged bodies” theory on CBS News’ “Face The Nation,” but the even stranger Viagra rape fiction made international headlines as U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice made a formal charge against Libya in front of the UN Security Council.

What this new email confirms is that not only was the State Department aware of the spurious nature of what Blumenthal calls “rumors” originating solely with the rebels, but did nothing to stop false information from rising to top officials who then gave them “credence.”

It appears, furthermore, that the Viagra mass rape hoax likely originated with Sidney Blumenthal himself.

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VIDEO: Libya's Quiet War: The Tuareg of South Libya
(in military conflict with Toubou tribe)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X-ps7QyBjI

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https://thinkprogress.org/the-forgotten-conflict-in-libya-explained-4ffc134b0a9a#.m7anjhnas

Since then, Libya has operated without a central government. Instead, the country has two rival governments and a rapidly-increasing ISIS presence. Meanwhile, the south has witnessed clashes between the Tuareg and Toubou tribes, resulting in heavy casualties.

49 killed in U.S. airstrike targeting terrorists in Libya

By Greg Botelho and Barbara Starr, CNN
Updated 3:30 AM ET, Sat February 20, 2016

(CNN)American warplanes hit an ISIS camp in Libya where foreign fighters had been engaged in advanced training, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Friday.

Noureddine Chouchane, a senior operative in the terrorist group from Tunisia, was believed to be among those from around Africa and the Middle East who had converged on the site, Earnest said. It was not immediately clear whether Chouchane was killed, Earnest said.
Chouchane is thought to have played an instrumental role in two terrorist attacks in Tunisia last year, one at Tunis' Bardo Museum that killed 23 people and another at a seaside resort in Sousse that left 38 people dead. ISIS claimed responsibility for both massacres.


The U.S. military has launched hundreds of airstrikes against ISIS targets over the past two years. These have been concentrated in Iraq and Syria, where the Islamist extremist group has established its biggest foothold and has its de facto capital in Raqqa.
But Libya -- a North African nation that's been in turmoil, and a hotbed for some militant groups, since a 2011 revolution that toppled its longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi -- has been in its crosshairs as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
Women of Sand

http://www.cultureunplugged.com/play/5371/Women-of%20Sand



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Thanks Clyde, lioness ass is trying to pass off lies again. With those hairy folks trying to pass of as original Kel people. smh


Ottoman invasions:

Ghat

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"Ghat or Gat (both: gät) [key], walled town, SW Libya, in an oasis in the Sahara, near the Algerian border. It formerly was an important caravan center. Ghat was captured by the Ottoman Turks in 1875, by the Italians in 1930, and by the French in 1943, during World War II."

--The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th ed. Copyright © 2012, Columbia University Press.


غات "عاصمة الطوراق" إحدى أهم مدن الجنوب الليبي


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nz9c406Ja0


Touaregs of Libya Ghat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dnMX4kx_5o


Twariqs' folklore, Libya, Ghat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo89-0YZuEQ

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quote:

I. THE PRE-OTTOMAN ERA


Libya before the arrival of the Turks:

The word “Libya” in early history was a geographical expression. As written by one source:

As used by the ancient Greeks, it referred generally to North Africa, comprising the southern littoral of the Mediterranean from the Nile Delta to the Atlantic, and also its desert hinterland and oases. The name derives from a single tribe established in eastern Cyrenaica early in the 2nd millennium B.C. There is reason to think that the territory as a whole showed a considerable degree of uniformity of race and culture (...) The physical type of the people was clearly Mediterranean, and contrasted with the Negroid races inhabiting the desert to the south. Their way of life was that of shepherd nomads loosely organized into tribes and confederations (...) They had their own kingdom (...) Later, Libya was colonized by the Greeks, and eventually passed under Roman control. It subsequently came under Muslim-Arab domination, followed by the Ottoman suzerainty.

1 The word “Libya” ceased to circulate in the post Greek and Roman periods, when North Africa remained divided under different rulers. Tripolitania (Ottoman Trablous al gharb), Cyrenaica = Barca 2 and Fezzan were distinct entities.

Separated by the Gulf of Sirte, Tripoli, at all times, was known to be part of Maghreb, and Cyrenaica of Mashrek. On the other hand, Fezzan was always conceived to be independent from both Tripoli and Cyrenaica.

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[...]

In the interaction between Libya and the Mediterranean politics and trade, Tripoli, the main port in Libya, has played major roles:

From the strategic point of view, the area between Tripoli- Siracuse and Bone-Trepani forms a corridor that splits the Mediterranean.4 For those who would try to dominate either the Eastern or the Western Mediterranean, Tripoli constitutes a strategic point that must be captured in order to pass across the other side. ‘For this reason, do we have to be surprised?’ asks Braudel.5 He connects majority of the wars taking place in this region during the 16th century to the domination of the Mediterranean; these wars include Tripoli (1511,1551), Djerba (1510,1520,1560), Tunis (1535,1573,1574), Bizerte (1573,1574), and Malta (1565). Moreover, Braudel propounds that Spain’s great interest in capturing Tripoli in 1510 was because it needed a reliable route along the southern coast in order to transport the rich Sicilian wheat.

(Page 14)


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The establishment of Phoenician colonies along the Libyan coast for the purchase of goods – gold, ivory, and feathers – and slaves from Central Africa and Sudan is also a mark of the historical appeal of this transit trade.1 On the other hand, local Libyan trade was of little importance because of the plain way of life and limited production capability of the Saharan people. They could only offer dates, salt, wax, in exchange for wheat, cloth, etc...

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500 YEARS IN TURKISH-LIBYAN RELATIONS

http://edoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/servlets/MCRFileNodeServlet/HALCoRe_derivate_00003723/500%20Years%20in%20Turkish-Libyan%20Relations.pdf


quote:
Berbers, or Amazigh, make up 5-10% of Libya's six million population

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-23690797


The majority of the population is described as Arab-Berber? According to this map.

What could this, or rather, what does this imply?

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