posted
I remember that, back in the early days of ES, the claim went around that the pre-Persian indigenous inhabitants of Iran would have been the Elamites, and that they would have been dark-skinned people speaking a language related to that of Dravidian people from southern India. But what evidence do we have that they were dark-skinned or had a linguistic relationship with Dravidians?
The subjects of this relief were often identified with Elamites, but outside of ES, most sources I have seen claim they are either Persian "immortals" or Persian guards from Susa. Wikipedia identifies them as "Susian Guards" and traces the relief to the palace of Darius I in Susa. Not sure why these guys are depicted with dark skin, but how do we know they're actually ethnic Elamites?
Assina (- 522 a. ), Son of Upadarma, was king of Elam in 522 a. C. when rebelling against the Achaemenian king Darius I.
Posts: 42919 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
The claim to a linguistic relationship with Dravidians, to me, is a question mark. I guess I have to read more on David McAlpin's theory, philosophy/ideology.
quote: Linguist David McAlpin has been a chief proponent of the Elamo-Dravidian hypothesis.[1] According to McAlpin, the long-extinct Harappan language (the language or languages of the Indus Valley Civilization) might also have been part of this family. The hypothesis has gained attention in academic circles, but has been subject to serious criticism by linguists, and remains only one of several scenarios for the origins of the Dravidian languages.
Renfrew and Bahn conclude that several scenarios are compatible with the data, and that "the linguistic jury is still very much out.
Elamo-Dravidian languages
Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
William Leo Hansberry gives a great discussion of the evidence of African Kushites ruling in Asia and Africa. Some ancient scholars noted that the first rulers of Elam were of Kushite ( Kerma ? ) origin. According to Strabo, the first Elamite colony at Susa was founded by Tithnus, a King of Kush. Strabo in Book 15, Chapter 3728 wrote that in fact it is claimed that Susa was founded by Tithonus Memnon's father, and his citadel bore the name Memnonium. The Susians are also called Cissians. Aeschylus, calls Memnon's mother Cissia.
Here is King Xerxes and other Persian Brothers .
William Leo Hansberry, African History Notebook, (1981) Volume 2 noted that:
In Persia the old Negroid element seems indeed to have been sufficiently powerful to maintain the overlord of the land. For the Negritic strain is clearly evident in statuary depicting members of the royal family ruling in the second millenium B.C.
Hundreds of years later, when Xerxes invaded Greece, the type was well represented in the Persian army. In the remote mountain regions bordering on Persia and Baluchistan, there is to be found at the present time a Negroid element which bears a remarkable resemblance to the type represented on the ancient mounments. Hence the Negritic or Ethiopian type has proved persistent in this area, and in ancient times it seems to have constituted numerically and socially an important factor in the population" (p.52) .
Henry Rawlinson used the Book of Genesis to find the identity of the Mesopotamia. He made it clear that the original inhabitants of Babylonia were represented by the name Nimrod and were represented by the family of Ham: Kushites, Egyptians and etc. This name came from the popularity among these people of hunting the leopard (Nimri). And as noted in earlier post the Egyptian and Nubian rulers always associated leopard spots with royalty, just as Siva is associated with the feline. As a result, Rawlinson used an African language Galla, to decipher the cuneiform writing.
The Sumerians and Elamites came from Africa, like the founders of the Indus Valley civilization. This is why the Elamite and Sumerian languages are closely related to African and Dravidian languages.
The Kushites when they migrated from Middle Africa to Asia continued to call themselves Kushites. This is most evident in place names and the names of gods. The Kassites, chief rulers of Iran occupied the central part of the Zagros. The Kassite god was called Kashshu, which was also the name of the people. The K-S-H, name element is also found in India. For example Kishkinthai, was the name applied to an ancient Dravidian kingdom in South India. Also it should be remembered that the Kings of Sumer, were often referred to as the " Kings of Kush".
The major Kushite tribe in Central Asia was called Kushana. The Kushan of China were styled Ta Yueh-ti or "the Great Lunar Race". Along the Salt Swamp, there was a state called Ku-Shih of Tibet. The city of K-san, was situated in the direction of Kushan, which was located in the Western part of the Gansu Province of China.
The Elamites later conquered Sumer. They called this line of Kings,he "King of Kish'. This term has affinity to the term Kush,that was given to the Kerma dynasty, founded by the C-Group people of Kush. It is interesting to note that the Elamite language, is closely related to the African languages including Egyptian and the Dravidian languages of India.
The most important Kushite colony in Iran was ancient Elam. The Elamites called their country KHATAM or KHALTAM (Ka-taam). The capital of Khaltam which we call Susa, was called KHUZ (Ka-u-uz) by the Aryans, NIME (Ni-may) by the people of Sumer, and KUSHSHI (Cush-she) by the Elamites.In the Akkadian inscriptions the Elamites were called GIZ-BAM (the land of the bow). The ancient Chinese or Bak tribesmen which dominate China today called the Elamites KASHTI. Moreover, in the Bible the Book of Jeremiah (xlxx,35), we read "bow of Elam". It is interesting to note that both Khaltam-ti and Kashti as the name for Elam, agrees with Ta-Seti, the ancient name for Nubia located in the Meroitic Sudan.
There is textual evidence supporting a relationship between the founders of Sumer, Elam and Dilmun. Col. Henry Rawlinson , used textual evidence to determine that a link existed between the Mesopotamians to their ancestors in Africa . Rawlinson called these people Kushites.
There is a positive relationship between crania from Africa and Eurasia. The archaeologist Marcel-Auguste Dieulafoy (Dieulafoy,2004) and Hanberry (1981) maintains that their was a Sub-Saharan strain in Persia . These researchers maintain that it was evident that an Ethiopian dynasty ruled Elam from a perusal of its statuary of the royal family and members of the army ( Dieulafoy, 2004; Dieulafoy, 2010;Hansberry,1981). Dieulafoy (2010 ) noted that the textual evidence and iconography make it clear that the Elamites were Africans, and part of the Kushite confederation .Dieulafoy (2010) made it clear that the Elamites at Susa were Sub-Saharan Africans.
Marcel Dieulafoy and M. de Quatrefages observed that the craniometrics of the ancient Elamites of Susa indicate that they were Sub-Saharan Africans or Negroes (Dieulafoy,2010). Ancient Sub-Saharan African skeletons have also been found in Mesopotamia (Tomczyk et al, 2010). The craniometric data indicates that continuity existed between ancient and medieval Sub-Saharan Africans in Mesopotamia (Ricault & Waelkens,2008).
Rawlinson,H. “ Letter read at the meeting of the Royal Asiatic Society on February 5, 1853”, The Athenaeum, (No. 1321) ,p.228.
Rawlinson,H. “Note on the early History of Babylonia”, Journal Royal Asiatic Soc., 15, 215-259.
Ricaut,F.X. and Waelkens.2008. Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzatine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements, Hum Biol, 80(5):535-564.
Tomczyk,J., Jedrychowska-Danska, K., Ploszaj,T & Witas H.W. (2010). Anthropological analysis of the osteological material from an ancient tomb (Early Bronze Age) from the middle Euphrates valley, Terqa (Syria) , International Journal of Osteoarchaeology, Retrieved 04/04/10 from (www.interscience.wiley.com)DOI:10.1002/oa.1150 .
-------------------- C. A. Winters Posts: 13012 | From: Chicago | Registered: Jan 2006
| IP: Logged |
posted
To Clyde, based on the Bible, the Elamites were not Kushites. They were black Shemites, descendants of Shem's son Elam. They were the closest relatives to the Hebrews.
Posts: 603 | From: Mobile, Alabama | Registered: Jan 2007
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Ebony Allen: To Clyde, based on the Bible, the Elamites were not Kushites. They were black Shemites, descendants of Shem's son Elam. They were the closest relatives to the Hebrews.
Which Bible?
Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
Tukuler
multidisciplinary Black Scholar
Member # 19944
posted
Reference The Table of Nations in the Hebrew book B*reshiyth.
Shemi lineage Kushi are called so because of skin color like someone from Qevs ie ancient northern Sudan.
posted
Many, I see, confuse brown-skinned Mideasterners with curly dark hair with Africans.
They are in fact overwhelmingly of Eurasian ancestry.
What is most interesting currently about the Elamites is that finds in Jiroft, southern Iran, show a civilization previously unknown which is older than that of Sumer, and used Elamite script. The initial reports claimed that cities such as that at Jiroft were distributed widely in Iran up to the southern steppes.
Some believe this civilization was the "Aratta" spoken of by Sumerians.
Given the ongoing arguments over the Harappan civilization, Aryan invasions and all that, naturally Jiroft is drawn into the controversy, with Indian nationalists claiming a relationship with early Indian civilizations, just as Afrocentrics, as we see here, claim Elam as "Kushite".
It may well be that the Jiroft complex is related to the original BMAC, which was not Aryan, Dravidian or Kushite, but created by people descended from the original Iranian Neolithic people.
-------------------- Nican Tlaca Posts: 139 | From: Piedmont, Virginia | Registered: Jan 2020
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Marija: Many, I see, confuse brown-skinned Mideasterners with curly dark hair with Africans.
They are in fact overwhelmingly of Eurasian ancestry.
What is most interesting currently about the Elamites is that finds in Jiroft, southern Iran, show a civilization previously unknown which is older than that of Sumer, and used Elamite script. The initial reports claimed that cities such as that at Jiroft were distributed widely in Iran up to the southern steppes.
Some believe this civilization was the "Aratta" spoken of by Sumerians.
Given the ongoing arguments over the Harappan civilization, Aryan invasions and all that, naturally Jiroft is drawn into the controversy, with Indian nationalists claiming a relationship with early Indian civilizations, just as Afrocentrics, as we see here, claim Elam as "Kushite".
It may well be that the Jiroft complex is related to the original BMAC, which was not Aryan, Dravidian or Kushite, but created by people descended from the original Iranian Neolithic people.
Interresting theory you have.
quote:
Dataset preparation for population genetic analyses Genotypes were called in GD13a at sites which overlapped those in the Human Origins dataset (Lazaridis et al.17, filtered as described in Jones et al.24) using GATK Pileup44.
[...]
whilst PCA also revealed some affinity with modern Central South Asian populations such as Balochi, Makrani and Brahui (Fig. 1A and Fig. S4)
[...]
The phenotypic attributes of GD13a are similar to the neighbouring Anatolian early farmers and Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers. Based on diagnostic SNPs, she had dark, black hair and brown eyes (see Supplementary). She lacked the derived variant (rs16891982) of the SLC45A2 gene associated with light skin pigmentation but likely had at least one copy of the derived SLC24A5 allele (rs1426654) associated with the same trait. The derived SLC24A5 variant has been found in both Neolithic farmer and Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer groups5,15,24 suggesting that it was already at appreciable frequency before these populations diverged. Finally, she did not have the most common European variant of the LCT gene (rs4988235) associated with the ability to digest raw milk, consistent with the later emergence of this adaptation5,15,21”
~M. Gallego-Llorente, R. Pinhasi et al. The genetics of an early Neolithic pastoralist from the Zagros, Iran
quote: “Populations for which the ancient Caucasus genomes are best ancestral approximations include those of the Southern Caucasus and interestingly, South and Central Asia. Western Europe tends to be a mix of early farmers and western/eastern hunter-gatherers while Middle Eastern genomes are described as a mix of early farmers and Africans.
[…]
Caucasus hunter-gatherer contribution to subsequent populations. We next explored the extent to which Bichon and CHG contributed to contemporary populations using outgroup f3(African; modern, ancient) statistics, which measure the shared genetic history between an ancient genome and a modern population since they diverged from an African outgroup.
Discussion
Given their geographic origin, it seems likely that CHG and EF are the descendants of early colonists from Africa who stopped south of the Caucasus, in an area stretching south to the Levant and possibly east towards Central and South Asia. WHG, on the other hand, are likely the descendants of a wave that expanded further into Europe. The separation of these populations is one that stretches back before the Holocene, as indicated by local continuity through the Late Palaeolithic/Mesolithic boundary and deep coalescence estimates, which date to around the LGM and earlier.”
~Jones, E. R., G. Gonzalez-Fortes, S. Connell, V. Siska, A. Eriksson, R. Martiniano, R. L. McLaughlin, et al. 2015. Upper Palaeolithic genomes reveal deep roots of modern Eurasians.” Nature Communications 6 (1): 8912. doi:10.1038/ncomms9912. http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/ncomms9912.Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
This decorative frieze of polychrome glazed brick shows an army, the men carrying spears, bows and quivers. Are they the royal guards of Darius I (522–486 BC), whom Herodotus called “the Immortals,” or might they represent an idealized image of the Persian people? The frieze is probably inspired by the brick friezes of Babylon, although the technique is different. That may be a legacy from the Middle Elamite Period, which saw the appearance of decoration in glazed siliceous brick.
Archers on parade The Frieze of Archers had two symmetrical lines of soldiers, parading at a slow march. Each archer’s hands are joined together on the shaft of his spear, and hanging from his shoulders is a bow, its ends in the form of duck’s heads, and a quiver. The butt of the spear, held vertical, rests on the front foot, shod like the other in a laced ankle-boot. The archers wear the long Persian robe, braided and pleated over the legs, the outline of whose ample sleeve describes a curve towards the belted waist. They are bearded, and their thick curly hair is massed at the nape of the neck, held back by a diadem of beaten metal. Each brick is molded from a quart-based body; its outer face is rectangular, but the brick tapers towards the back, a little like a quoin, so as to leave room for mortar when the decorated faces are butted up against each other. The frieze combines low relief and color, with glazes of green, brown, white and yellow separated by fine cloisons of siliceous body.
An inheritance from the Elamite period? This decorative frieze was certainly inspired by the Processional Way in Babylon, constructed by Nebuchadnezar II (604–562 BC), but the technique is different. The Babylonians used clay for their bricks, rather than the siliceous material employed here. The artists who worked for Darius may have revived a technique developed at Susa by the Elamites in the Late Elamite Period at the end of the second millennium. Polychrome brick decoration in Iran would have a great future in the architecture of the Islamic age.
from the Palace of Darius I in Susa. Dated around 510 BC, Frieze of the Archers
Some researchers think that the archers in the Frieze of the archers are Persians. Others think they are Elamites due to the fact they have headbands and the relief carvings at Persepolis show Persians with headgear above but not headbands
from the Palace of Darius I in Susa. Dated around 510 BC, The figure is a guardian angel called a “lamassu,” __________________________________________
However at this website look at the headgear and the identification
Persian Soliders (photo above is two rows photos combined for their website image, either they are both assumed Persian warriors or top one unidentified) (note twisted headbands) http://kiwioutthere.com/?p=930
.
Elamites (with lions)
Indians
However I have read that ethnic groups listed at Persepolis are not labeled so that researches have to guess at who's who
I think I had also read some researchers thinking the Frieze of the Archers, the archers have an Elamite bow
Elamites (incl 2 figures with arrow quivers) bas-relief from the palace of Ashurbanipal illustrating the Assyrian campaign against the kingdom of Elam (645 BC).
this is from North of Bagdad in Iraq 645 BC clearly from the context of the full scenes they are Elamites
and the other images at Perepolis in Iran 510 BC where who is Elamite is less clear
Posts: 42919 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
Relief Humiliation of Elamite Kings Nineveh Gypsum N Palace Ashurbanipal British Museum. Ashurbanipal waged a number of wars against his eastern neighbor, the kingdom of Elam (in southwestern Iran). This relief shows two captured Elamite kings being forced to act as servants. Assyrian courtiers jeer at the captives, who are distinguished by their fringed robes and bulbous hats. One king, at left, carries a wine jar, while the other holds a fly whisk. The cuneiform inscription states that Ashurbanipal seized the Elamites with the help of the gods and compelled them to prepare and serve him a meal.
(details) Relief Humiliation of Elamite Kings Nineveh Gypsum N Palace Ashurbanipal British Museum AG.jpg Created: 643-640 BCE
Posts: 42919 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by One Third African: *BUMP*
So who are the archers in that relief I posted in my OP? Are they really Elamites, or rather ethnic Persians?
I suspect that they are descendants of Hebrews from Lachish or one of the neighboring kingdoms that fell under the Assyrian rule. And this is why there is so little known about them, surrounded with so much obscurity.
quote: They are bearded, and their thick curly hair is massed at the nape of the neck, held back by a diadem of beaten metal.
This decorative frieze was certainly inspired by the Processional Way in Babylon, constructed by Nebuchadnezar II (604–562 BC)
quote: During the Siege of Jerusalem, Nebuchadnezar captured King Jehoiachin along with prominent citizens and craftsman and appointed Zedekiah as King of Judah in his place, the latter rebelled and attempted to organize opposition among the small states in the region but his capital, Jerusalem, was taken in 587 BC (the events are described in the Bible's Books of Kings and Book of Jeremiah).[6] I
quote: Herodotus called Susa "the city of Memnon," Herodotus describes two tall statues with Egyptian and Ethiopian dress that some, he says, identify as Memnon; he disagrees, having previously stated that he believes it to be Sesostris.
~Kevin Burrell, (p.164) Cushites in the Hebrew Bible: Negotiating Ethnic Identity in the Past and Present (2020).
quote: In discussing the royal road from Sardis to Susa, Herodotus also referred to ‘the king’s abode called Memnonian’ and said of Susa, ‘that is the city called Memnonian.’16 The association between Cissia, Tithonus and Memnon was also explicit in Strabo who wrote, ‘Susis also is almost a part of Persis. It lies between Persis and Babylonia, and has a very considerable city, Susa....It is said to have been founded by Tithonus, the father of Memnon. Its compass was 120 stadia. Its shape was oblong. The Acropolis was called Memnonium. The Susians have the name also of Cissii.’17
Writing of a fragment believed to originate in Aeschylus’ Memnon, West noted, ‘The speaker, prob- ably Priam himself, is interrogating the newcomer and has learned that he is a native of Ethiopia; he finds no fault with that, but awaits further clarification.
~D.T. Potts, New York University Between Myth and History: Susa and Memnon through the ages 2017, Vol. 1, No. 4
quote:There is some evidence leading to the belief that a protonegroid population once extended westward from India along the shores of the Persian Gulf. Individuals of that group seem to be portrayed on seventh 38 40 So far as it is possible to determine, in ancient times there were longheaded races in Iran preceding the Nordic peoples. The basis for this belief is found in the appearance, in Mesopotamia, of a brown Eur-african type of man. Our present evidence concerning him is indeed scanty, but seems to suggest a remote 41 38 Cf. the upper register of the Ashurbanipal relief in E. Pottier, Les Antiquites assyriennes (du Mus6e du Louvre) (Paris, 1917), PI. 23; for details cf. Victor Place, Ninive et V Assyrie, Vol. Ill (Paris, 1867), PI. 59, No. 1. Or seeH. R. Hall, Babylonianand Assyrian Sculpture in the British Museum (Paris and Brussels, 1928), PI. XLIV . Finally, cf. the Achae- menian reliefs from Susa in M. Dieulafoy, Uacropole de Suse (Paris, 1893), Pis. V and VI. Herodotus vii. 70;Strabo xv, 1,13, and 24.
*° Dieulafoy, Uacropole de Suse, p. 28. 41 Buxton in L. H. Dudley Buxton and D. Talbot Rice, "Report on the Human Remains Found at Kish," Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute, LXI (1931), 57-119, esp. pp. 84 ff. century B .C . reliefs of an Assyrian king. thors speak of "Ethiopians" in the southeast of the land;39 their modern descendants possess copper skins, straight hair, and round skulls. ever, safe to say that these peoples never constituted an important or a large element in the population.
~George G. Cameron, The History of Early Iran
quote:By 701 BCE the Assyrian kings, based in Nineveh (modern-day Mosul Governorate, Iraq), built their enormous empire. It stretched from modern-day Iran to Egypt and covered most of the modern-day Middle East.
quote: The city was best known through the Christian era (and still is) by the central role it plays in the biblical Book of Jonah. The Book of Jonah was written between 500-400 BCE depicting events from hundreds of years earlier in the reign of the Hebrew King Jeroboam II (786-746 BCE).
quote: The Lachish reliefs are a set of Assyrian palace reliefs narrating the story of the Assyrian victory over the kingdom of Judah during the siege of Lachish in 701 BCE. Carved between 700-681 BCE, as a decoration of the South-West Palace of Sennacherib in Nineveh (in modern Iraq) […]
The events surrounding the conquest of Lachish are recorded in an unparalleled number of sources for the 8th century BCE; in the Hebrew Bible, the Lachish reliefs, Assyrian cuneiform prisms and in the archeological excavations at Lachish.[7] Sennacherib's conquests of Judean cities, without the capital Jerusalem, are mentioned in the Bible, the book of Kings, Book of Chronicles and in the book of Isaiah.
"Later, when Sennacherib king of Assyria and all his forces were laying siege to Lachish, he sent his officers to Jerusalem with this message for Hezekiah king of Judah and for all the people of Judah who were there"-(II Chronicles 32:9)
"Now it came to pass in the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah that Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and took them." - (Isaiah 36:1-2)
quote: The Ezra and Nehemiah traditions also show Jews who were given significant posts by Persian rulers. Yet Ezra states that the Jews of the province of Yehud are “slaves” in the Persian Empire (Ezra 9:7-9). Some of the hardships suffered by the people are outlined in Neh 5, though whether their lot was different then than it was in other periods is an open question (since crop failure, borrowing, and losing loan collateral were problems experienced throughout history). [...]
In other texts, individuals with Yahwistic names were small holders or lower-rank officials. We also have an archive of texts relating to the house of Murashu, a business and financial establishment of the Persian period that employed Jews as servants or agents. The Jews seem to have been well integrated into society. Apart from Antiochus IV, persecutions of Jewish communities seem to have been local rather than imperial actions, until the Roman Empire became Christianized.
quote: The Murashu tablets provide a glimpse into what life was like for fifth-century Jewish descendants of the Babylonian Exile and captivity. After the Persian king Cyrus the Great captured Babylon in 539 BCE, he allowed and helped finance the return of Jews to Judea with the Edict of Cyrus in 538. The Murashu tablets are dated to this period after Jews were allowed to return to Judea. The fact that the banking house "Murashu & Sons" conducted business with Jews who decided to remain in Nippur rather than return to Judea suggests that life in Persian-controlled Nippur was at least somewhat tolerable for Jews.[20]
This decorative frieze of polychrome glazed brick shows an army, the men carrying spears, bows and quivers. Are they the royal guards of Darius I (522–486 BC), whom Herodotus called “the Immortals,” or might they represent an idealized image of the Persian people?
posted
The Ancient Elamites would have been racially similar to that Mehri people of Southern Yemen. a Pre-historic Racial Mixture of Dravidian and African and later on Asiatic.
Posts: 371 | From: Queens,NY | Registered: Feb 2020
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by SMirk92: The Ancient Elamites would have been racially similar to that Mehri people of Southern Yemen. a Pre-historic Racial Mixture of Dravidian and African and later on Asiatic.
That could be. However, the men mentioned here in this topic are probably not Elamites. The more I research, the more I find that these populations/ demographics had dark skin complexion going form light brown to deep "chocolate" brown.
As of now I am studying the places and people (ethnigroups/ demographics) to get a better understanding to who these people are. From what I suspect thus far these are Hebrews.
quote: “At that time also there appeared a certain man of magic power … if it be meet to call him a man, [whose name is Yeshua], whom [certain] Greeks call a son of [a] God, but his disciples [call] the true prophet who is supposed to have raised dead persons and to have cured all diseases. Both his nature and his form were human, for he was a man of simple appearance, mature age, black-skinned (melagchrous), short growth, three cubits tall, hunchbacked, prognathous (lit. ‘with a long face [macroprosopos]), a long nose, eyebrows meeting above the nose, that the spectators could take fright, with scanty [curly] hair, but having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazaraeans, with an undeveloped beard. (*Halōsis, ii.174).”[4]
~Alfred C Haddon, History of Anthropology (London:Watts and Co.,1934) pg. 6.
posted
Roger Blench says (in "The Semiticisation of the Arabian Peninsula and the Problem of its Reflection in the Archaeological Record Roger Blench"):
"Semitic languages are part of the larger language phylum, Afroasiatic, which includes Berber, Ancient Egyptian and the languages of Ethiopia as well as the Chadic languages of Central Africa. This classification is not wholly settled, especially as to the inclusion of Omotic and Elamitic."
Now, Africans generally don't have all this body hair that the Easterners have. I'd be curious to see what the geneticists have found though.
-------------------- Cry in the dojo. Laugh on the battlefield. Posts: 45 | From: South Africa | Registered: Apr 2020
| IP: Logged |
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic